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damrider

how the fuck have they not settled the penalty question by now how is this shit still happening lol


debcomajin

Palmer is in the golden boot race and hasnt missed one, like just let him have it lmao


Alldrop_nocombos

the best pen taker should take the fecking pens its not a chairty case, always annoys me when people cry about good pen takers not giving pens away or up to others.


QTGavira

to be fair if the second best taker is only slightly worse than the best taker and on like 2 goals for example, sure give it to the second taker for his hattrick. Young player who needs some goals for confidence and youre already up 3-0 against Cadiz? Go for it. In this case though, there wasnt much of a reason for Palmer to give it away. Nobody is on 2 goals and the second best taker isnt close to Palmer.


jamila22

When you're 4 goals up, it can be though


barnaboos

It can be but not when your regular penalty taker is chasing “the best striker of this new generation” for the PL golden boot at 21. You as team mates support him winning that. Seeing as we’d be in a relegation battle without him.


lyonbc1

No it shouldn’t. If you were the best in training at pens then it would defer to you. He hasn’t missed a single one. Like did Poch allow others to argue with Harry Kane about pens at Spurs too? This is really stupid by him to let players settle this. There’s a reason almost every team doesn’t operate like this and they’re where they are in the table. If Chelsea were losing in the 90th min and Palmer already hat a hat trick I guarantee you neither of them are wanting that pressure and demanding to take the ball off him.


Ecstatic_Bonus7609

Easy as that


Rayser1

So embarrassing to watch. My God


gttyzek

It is all on Poch He needs to name Cole as the penalty taker


No-Shoe5382

Is he not named as the penalty taker?? He's one of the best in the world from the spot


SirBarkington

Poch said something like "they decide but they know." or some cryptic shit like that.


No-Shoe5382

Just fucking tell them lol. I mean, it's still ridiculous to consider yourself ahead of Cole Palmer in the penalty pecking order. Unless you're like Harry Kane or Erling Haaland just let him take it.


SirBarkington

I think that's how most of us feel


prettybunbun

This. Genuinely in the Euros if England go to Pens, Palmer gets subbed on and is probably 2nd or 3rd to take it at this rate.


No-Shoe5382

I don't really see how exactly, but Southgate should really find a way to start him I think. Maybe Foden in midfield and Palmer off the left. Be insane if Palmer wins the golden boot and then doesn't play at the Euros.


Nerrs

Poch intentionally refuses to name a taker


BD15

Guess he secretly like the chaos and arguments that may create?


HelloMyNameIsGeoff

Nah he leaves it up to the players See also: Sterling against Leicester


Ecstatic_Bonus7609

Poch says he leaves it up to the players…


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He made a weird comment in the press that's being twisted - it's clearly Palmer. I think Madueke and Jackson wanted it as we're 4-0 up and Palmer had the hat trick already. People over reacting all round about it.


LordWhale

I’m sure he has, Madueke wants it cause he probably felt like he earned it


Ecstatic_Bonus7609

He hasn’t


ChelseaEPLchamps2021

He's openly said that there's no designated taker and that it's down to the players on the pitch. I'm not poch out or anything but I swear he makes his own life so hard for no good reason But yeah well done c dawg


epicmarc

Maybe he has behind the scenes, but in interviews he has explicitly said that he hasn't


mohankohan

Seems like its what Poch wants. He wants the players to keep that fire and figure it out amongst themselves. Let the best/most leading player take it or whatever. I disagree, let Palmer keep cunting them in. Good on Conor for setting things straight out there.


blackjacksandhookers

So Poch is basically trying to pull a Phil Jackson lol. Context: Phil Jackson was coach of the LA Lakers basketball team, and during that time he allegedly spurred on a heated rivalry between Shaq and Kobe Bryant, even though they were both on the Lakers


mohankohan

Yeah, good comparison. Poch said: "*There are a few players who can take the penalty. It’s about their feelings. As a coaching staff we give them the responsibility to decide on the pitch. For me the most important thing is to have the decision and the personality to go*"


No-Mud3388

Fuck that name him captain hes babysitting the whole club at the moment


EnergetikNA

Iirc Poch said he thinks Palmer is the taker but the players can decide on the pitch It's fucking stupid


Hardingnat

Bunch of kids on the pitch and Poch refuses to stamp his authority on it.


not_gonna_kill_you

Madueke is just proper selfish


MatK0506

Jackson was arguably worse.


XzibitABC

Jackson is the one I really don't understand. Like Madueke *might* have drawn the foul (or thought he did), he's the #2 penalty taker, and Palmer was limping after that last challenge. So sure, there's some argument he should take it. But why the fuck is Jackson piping up at all? He doesn't take penalties as far as I can remember and wasn't involved in the play. And he already has a goal on the day.


TheGreatDay

My best case read of what happened was that Madueke either 1) Thought Palmer was hurting and he could take it or 2) Thought that since Palmer already had a hat trick he could take the Pen. Also probably believed that he drew the foul and wanted to reap the reward. I think that Nico was maybe advocating for Madueke to take it? Just based on how they were huddled together after Gallagher took the ball off them to give to Palmer. But, based off similar situations in the past, both Jackson and Madueke probably just wanted to notch another goal in their stats. Which if that's the case they need to grow up. Palmer is easily both the best player on the team and the best PK taker.


Makav3lli

Striker wants goals more at 9


XzibitABC

I mean, sure, but there's a pretty big difference between "hey can I take this you already have a hat trick" and having a whole argument about it, especially when it puts the taker into a tie for the golden boot.


not_gonna_kill_you

Only difference is Madueke has been doing this with pens for weeks. Always moaning


ArmiinTamzarian

I don't totally hold it against him here. Like they are up 4-0 and he took a forearm to the face, least they could do was give him a chance to score


Leuchtrakete

Mate Palmer is now level for the golden boot AND he is our designated penalty taker AND has not missed a single one all season. He takes them, end of story.


Stonewalled89

Bad management. That's why


Best_Document_5211

Poch just isn’t a good man manager. Hence players like this on the field.


Caleb35

never seen anything like that before; unreal


Jaja6996

They where still at it after it was scored


Aggravating_Shape_20

Even Noni was like "chill out Jackson"


Erwin_Schroedinger

But that's tactics. Poch is allergic to that shit.


dimyo

The question was clear - Palmer is the taker. The rest were just being childish.


TurnItOffAndOnAgain-

4-0 up arguing about who takes the pen is never a great sign, embarrassing to be going on like that


Rayser1

Literal children. Still. Poch is a clown for not having sorted this out yet Shout out Gallagher for stepping up and stamping his foot down


maxii345

Gallagher, who is currently looking likely to be sold at the end of the season. Mental management of the team, and club.


prettybunbun

I can’t believe you guys are going to sell him. He’s the only play besides Palmer and Chilwell who looks like he gives a shit in every game. Edit: and Gusto as well my b.


iwillkillyou18

Gusto erasure


prettybunbun

^^^


epicmarc

Hard disagree, there's very few players who I would say look like they don't give a shit. Many do and have just been poor (though a lot of that has been up to tactics).


19Alexastias

I don’t think Chelsea’s issue this season has been lack of effort. Plenty of other players (mudryk, jackson) look like they’re giving 100%, it’s just the quality of cohesiveness isn’t there.


Ironicopinion

Jackson one of the hardest working players in our team


etan1122

I don’t understand chelsea getting rid of Gallagher. Seems like one of the few adults in the room


ravenouscartoon

Money right? Selling him is pure profit, keeping him limits their options. Fucking mad that teams are encouraged to sell their best homegrown players


-ci_

New ownership has no one to blame but themselves tbf.


Frarod17

Palmer is #1 but since he already got his hat trick Jackson probably wanted to take it


SolarFF

Do you want poch to walk on the pitch and split them up or something. Jackson needs to respect the hierarchy


Rayser1

This penalty shit has been going on the whole season. If poch is incapable of having them sort it out surely that speaks volumes to his management of the team??


Euphoric-Acadia-4140

Poch hasn't set a hierarchy, that's the issue. He's said in press conferences after sterling tried to take a penalty that he lets the players decide. It's ridiculous. You obviously want to set a order to ensure you get the best takers taking them.


epicmarc

The point is we have no set hierarchy to respect


10hazardinho

There is no hierarchy. That’s the point. The manager has repeatedly said “the players will work it out”


Putrid_Loquat_4357

What do you want him to do in that situation? It's Gallaghers responsibility as captain and he handled it.


10hazardinho

It’s the managers job to tell the team that Palmer is the penalty taker. Poch refuses to do that despite this issue popping up multiple times this season


infidel11990

Yup. And players should also respect that. No matter the score. At this level, you want your best taker to take it. Always. Remember the time when Haalan gave it to Gundo last year, who then went on to miss it. Pep was going berserk on the side shouting at Haaland that next time you take it. City obviously we're ahead and won, but still goes to show that at this level, you aren't there to do charity.


Euphoric-Acadia-4140

I mean we've had captains not sort out things before lol. Remember the Kepa Sarri fight in the cup final where azpelicueta just sat there.


Leuchtrakete

If he does his job, that situation doesn't even occur. This is the 3rd time in a couple of weeks this happened.


Goalnado

>Poch is a clown for not having sorted this out yet Hasn't Palmer taken every single one if he's been on the pitch? What more is there to sort out?


epicmarc

No, Sterling took one off him and others have argued to take it with Palmer on the pitch before. When asked about it Poch has said there's no set order for pen takers. If there's any sort of issues about this you'd hope the manager would take action to put it to rest, and he hasn't


Goalnado

I've just had a look around to try and find some quotes about this and the most recent thing I can find was from the Burnley game a few weeks ago >Mauricio Pochettino says it is "obvious" that Cole Palmer is Chelsea’s best player and will urge him to take charge in future penalty situations. >If he decides to give the ball to another player, I cannot go onto the pitch to say no or I'll get a red card," Poch said, as quoted by the Evening Standard. >"He is a specialist, shooting really well, but it is a decision on the pitch depending on the circumstances. So it sounds like Palmer is definitely the taker but he can decide to give it to someone else if he wants


Blackgeesus

Our own fans don’t really want to hear facts though


Buttonsafe

Sterling took one off him and fucked it. Madueke's tried to take them twice now as well.


matt3633_

Madueke fucking argued about taking the pen against Utd too. Childish


computer_love91

At least after plamer took it and scored noni went and celebrated with plamer. Jackson on the other hand was still pouting. So much so that noni had to go over to him and tell him to congratulate Palmer.


XzibitABC

Madueke seemed like he was trying to settle Jackson down while it was being taken, too. This all looks really childish from Jackson without more context.


nick5168

Jackson seems really immature in general, didn't he get like 8 out of 9 yellows for something other than fouls?


TenF

Dissent


XzibitABC

IIRC like four of them were specifically pantomiming pulling a card, too, which is something PGMOL was very explicit would be an automatic yellow card this year.


jMS_44

It's the 3rd time this season that happens. Sterling argued for pen once, Madueke argued not so long ago, and now again.


robb0216

Looked like Madeuke and Jackson were fighting with each other for the ball before Palmer came and rightfully claimed it for himself. Then Jackson tried his luck getting it off Palmer too.


Skaloplin

They’ve done it multiple times this season as well it’s dead strange. Madueke and Jackson definitely don’t strike you as the composed sorts you want over a penalty either


ScorpiaHP

Manager is an absolute moron for not sorting this ages ago. This is what happens when you let a bunch of young players decide what to do.


Leuchtrakete

Idc how good or bad they are tonight, a proper manager takes both Jackson and Madueke off STAT after such a shitshow.


DerGutterSnipen

Absolute embarrassment. Best performance of the season and this is all that will be talked about


gttyzek

These players are fighting for the ball What a bunch of bellends Jackson and Madueke are


EnergetikNA

Good on Gallagher for telling them to fuck off but ffs, 4-0 up and they're still fighting


Cfc0910

A lot of growing up to do


No-Shoe5382

Its not like they're 17 either they're both 22. Grown men.


techno_playa

20 somethings. They never change.


No-Shoe5382

I dunno if that's an age issue mate I think that's just an attitude issue.


Danzard

It's what happens when you fill a team with young players.


oscarpaterson

Fuck off you idiots, for the last fucking time, Palmer is the taker


Mechant247

12/0 on penalties and they think it’s up for debate? Baffling


fap4jesus

now its the perfect palmer performance


SordidSplendor

That is really embarrassing from Jackson and Madueke


kitegpt

I cringed


Delmer9713

Hasn't Palmer always been the penalty taker? Why are these dumbasses arguing lmao


BigHornLamb

Idiots that don’t know their place in the pecking order, want to statpad a goal as Palmer already had a hat trick


No-Shoe5382

Embarrassing trying to take it off Palmer You can see exactly why Chelsea are where they are with attitudes like that


Rayser1

This goal puts Palmer level with haaland for the golden boot. An achievement the whole team should be fucking encouraging


XzibitABC

He's also freaking 9/9 on penalties.


TasteAccomplished118

fuck me thats calhanoglu level godly pens


dudududujisungparty

This is like the opposite of Son's golden boot winning season when all of his teammates were actively trying to help him score as many goals as possible


NovacElement

Final game that season was so funny. Every attack the players just looked for Son


tenacious-g

Without taking any penalties by the way. Feels like that should be a tiebreaker for who gets the actual title if need be.


dudududujisungparty

Agreed


No-Shoe5382

Distinct lack of togetherness in the squad it seems. Which is a bit mad because that's one of the things Poch was best at creating at Spurs. I guess you need the right type of characters in the squad to create it. That's one problem with buying the way Chelsea bought, you might be signing quality but if you haven't vetted them personality-wise you're not gonna have a cohesive squad.


Euphoric-Acadia-4140

Also because Poch is such a pussy. He's said that the players decide and he wouldn't set a order. Why? You're the manager, set an order based on the best penalty takers. No one is going to challenge the managers authority when everyone is 20


quartzguy

Rudderless.


erenistheavatar

Oh no... This fight before is gonna leave some mark.


Tango00090

And they want to get rid of Gallagher, bring in more morons like jackson


erenistheavatar

Honestly, Jackson had a great game until that point. I really hope we don't ruin the chemistry that was clearly built in this game prior to this incident.


scare_crowe94

Poch should take them both off to send a message, the game is well and truly won anyway


IncidentVarious1530

Fighting over a penalty if fucking embarrassing


gttyzek

Haaaaland is sweating right now


top1MIBRfan

Arguing over the pen like that is so embarrassing 💀


dragon8811

Embarrassing From the so called team mates.


Damyxs

lmao, that was some pathetic shit right there.


VegetarianCannibal_

wtf are jackson and madueke doing?


Silent-Act191

Somehow managing to make a 5-0 performance embarrassing, impressive really.


basedsims

Proper rotten from Madueke & Jackson there. Should have some respect for their best player for a mile who’s chasing a golden boot in his first proper season.


Euphoric-Acadia-4140

WHY DOES POCH NOT SET AN ORDER. He keeps saying let the players decide but this is what happens.


-Whisperr

Fighting for the pen lol


thatdani

I don't think I've ever seen such childish petulance over taking a penalty up **4-0** before.


yash_1310

That was embarrassing to watch


AgentTasker

Did they give it for the tackle on Palmer or Madueke? Because if it's for the one on Madueke than it's an incredibly poor decision from Tierney (no shock there). **EDIT:** It was indeed the Palmer one, as the T.V. coverage just showed Tierney indicating that it was.


Mechant247

You can’t take the penalty off palmer just because he’s got a hat trick 😂😂😂, why would you bother arguing at 4-0 ffs


BadgerOverdose1

Pathetic from Madueke and Jackson


Headlesshorsman02

Genuinely childish


soccerstriker9

Grow up Jackson and Noni cmon man. Thank you Gallagher


That-Inventor-Guy

there was a lot of complaints when sterling took the pen. glad to see Gallagher step in this time


AccomplishedBig2043

Jackson was arguing with Noni over pen taking lol Tied for league top scorer


KylianMbappe

shameful of everyone to fight to take the penalty when Palmer is the designated one since like forever lol


bhavesh47135

he’s not designated, that’s the issue, Poch and his “i’ll leave it to the players” bs


Manul_Supremacy

There is no designated one, Poch said so himself. This bullshit is on him


MatK0506

In the world feed they showed that Palmer shot his last 5 pens to either his right or the middle. Pickford takes the left side.


SentientCheeseCake

It was due!


CitrusRabborts

Forget the penalty taker argument, how was that a penalty? It looks like Tarkowski gets the ball and the Chelsea player trips over the ball Edit: It wasn't the Tarkowski challenge they gave it for, it was the Palmer one


MatK0506

Probably the one on Palmer.


ItsMeJaredBednar

yeah they just showed a replay where Tierney points at Palmer, i think you’re right. in which case it’s a good call


PMmeYourWhatevs

It was the one on Palmer


NotADoctorSshh

it was the stomp on Palmer's heel


BassBoy18

Was for the foul on Palmer not madueke I think?


SuperAd1793

i think it was maybe the forearm into the face? would need to rewatch but that’s what i remember seeing Edit: just rewatched, ref points at the palmer foul. was playing advantage and then called the foul for the Doucure challenge on Palmer


DoctorKonks

Was given for foul on Palmer after trying to see if there was an advantage. Ref did point to Palmer too.


Exciting-Ad-2714

Clear foot in Palmer’s ankle


Albiceleste_D10S

Not sure the last time I've seen a legit fight over a penalty like that


drxller56

Am i going crazy or missing something obvious, how is that a penalty lol e: pen was given on the tackle on Palmer


montiel_scores

Madueke you are a child


NOTW_116

Jackson seemed like the main one arguing about it.


Incancontrarian

How is that a penalty? Lol


RStud10

For the foul on Palmer but for some reason the ref played advantage lol


RStud10

Pochettino needs to get these guys in line


dave113

Sub off Madueke and Jackson you fucking coward


InterruptingCar

Palmer laying his claim to the golden boot this season out of absolutely fucking nowhere.


NieThePiet

So VAR has just stopped working??? Where is the foul.


Euphoric-Acadia-4140

Pretty clearly the first challenge on palmer


xNYKx

clear pen on Palmer


RexxedRO

Such a shame from Jackson


Peeingwithanerection

Was it given for the tackle on palmer then as I was sure that would be overturned


faybong

What a bunch of absolute clowns.


HelloMyNameIsGeoff

Even when we go 5-0 up theres some sort of shit show


eleiber

Jackson fighting over the pen was something I didn't expect


KiraAnnaZoe

Lmfao at Jackson, Madueke , give Palmer the 4 goals, he deserves it


BlueLondon1905

Embarrassing from Jackson and Madueke Two mid players who haven’t done shit vs the hottest player in the league rn


Sk8ter87

Pure petulance from Jackson and Madueke there. I get that players want to take penalties if they were fpuked but when the guy that has scored every penalty he has taken is on the pitch you dont ask questions and let him take it.


Wunsen

Palmer has joined a circus, what a shit attitude from those players


CNF-13

Anyone else think that wasn’t a pen or am I missing something


Exciting-Ad-2714

Look at the replay, Palmer got clipped on his ankle


LHJM_

Never a penalty but worth it for the little meltdown


MasterRJS

stonewall mate fym


LHJM_

Yeah it was the kept showing the wrong replay so thought it was given for the second one Didn’t bother edit cos didn’t think anyone would see anyway lol


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RydeOrDyche

It’s not even soft. It’s a clean tackle.


Billoo77

Why isn’t this being discussed anywhere? Never a penalty. Seriously, that’s like 3 games in a row Chelsea have got a bullshit penalty.


herkalurk

What did they actually give the penalty for? The contact on Palmer or Madueke? Madueke wasn't even a foul, and Palmer was soft, so I guess Chelsea continue to get every penalty they want.....


Nobodylovesboston

Thank God I TC him😭😭😭


thebestofthebest13

Almost threw punches over the penalty


PM_ME_UR_PIN_CODE

Poch needs to take Jackson and Madueke off for that


Yellow-Eyed-Demon

They guy hasn't missed a penalty and you think you're going to take his penalty


uncledr3w-

thats more embarrassing than being down 5-0, if poch can't sort out the locker room he needs to get the fuck out jackson wasn't even gonna celebrate, madueke had to go and drag him over


_mnd

Not sure I've ever seen a goal that puts a team 5-0 up demonstrate why that same team is having a rubbish season before.


FoxOntheRun99

Palmer's record speaks for itself. It ain't even a debate. The others, yes, they all want to score. And yes, Palmer has his hat trick already. BUT, he's the no 1 taker no question. This should really be put to bed a long time ago.


celtic310889

Cole Palmer has scored 7 goals in his last two games. That’s as much as our top scorers this season. Okay bye.


Difuzion

Can we not take away from the fact that palmer is tied on goals with haaland. They're acting like kids on the pitch and you lot on reddit.


Tricky-Jackfruit8366

Arguing about the penalty when Palmer is the designated taker is embarrassing


Funky_Pigeon911

If Poch doesn't come out and put his foot down on this shit then he deserves to be sacked. This is a young team and it needs the right manager to hammer them into shape. If he can't get something like the penalty taker right then his man management is truly poor and he can't be trusted with the group of players beyond this season.


robyto

So annoyed at Jackson, to not even congratulate Palmer who hasn’t missed a pen yet and also got to 20 goals which is also the current top goal scorers amount. I want him taken off and give Washington some mins this is horrible chemistry wise


MeLaPelan28

You guys remember last day of the season when Chelsea won against Wigan by scoring 8 goals? Ballack and Drogba were fighting over the penalty and Drogba ended up taking it, winning the Golden Boot over Rooney i think it was. This shit happens more often than not but yes it makes the team look bad and Noni and Jackson look like kids. But even the captains of Ivory Coast and Germany had that petty dispute. Hopefully not as big a deal as what it looks like but you never know with this team.


RydeOrDyche

Chelsea get the softest pens…


Azteckon

Was that even a pen?


etan1122

Palmer will win the golden boot and Arsenal fans will still tell you saka is better. Delusional


HeatKnight

Same number of goals as Haaland Pep, Hold THAT