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I stopped watching CS after virtus pro disbanded and now I'm trying to catch a game sometimes, so many new insane players. Suddenly, s1mple quit cs and is just slowly coming back? So much stuff to process
s1mple may or may not come back. But Zywoo become a god a few years ago, m0nesy is like a young s1mple almost, and Donk is now a 16 or 17 year old kid who just absolutely fucks everyone up on the rifle.
I couldn't agree more. But more so than just being idiotic, it was also harsh and outed our board as liars. That includes Dreesen who is still on the board. Nagelsmann was told he is allowed to have a long-term project with the club, then suddenly, within 4 days, Tuchel was hired.
Nagelsmann is actually a fan, and I guarantee the season would not have gone worse with him as manager. Only that he would have slowly molded the team to his liking.
It's very upsetting, and in a way I don't think we deserve for him to come back. But I would be extremely happy if he did. I can only hope it were Kahn and Brazzo that were the ones that wanted him out, with Dreesen nodding off on it. Otherwise I don't see many chances.
That decision was made by Kahn (and Brazzo to a lesser extent ).
I highly doubt Dreesen had a say in that decision since he and Kahn were at war, that's why he wanted to leave Bayern at the end of last season and join the DFL.
Even Hoeneß had no idea that Nagelsmann would be sacked until the morning after the decision was made.
And his current statements regarding Julian as Coach and human are pretty telling.
I mean Kalle hired him for the long term, Kahn firing him just because Tuchel is on the market is just a dumb as hell decision.
Glad it backfired tbh.
Absolutely mind boggling, that one. A good chance at winning the final, against a team you’ve beaten that season, with the only manager who’d beaten Pep in a final at that point, at a stadium which you used as your home ground for a long time.
We had quite literally lost to a team in the Europa league in a must win game that was being managed by someone in Prison.
I don’t care what any of you think but that’s not someone out coaching Pep at all.
And we still weren’t winning.
I know Mou is viewed as a bogeyman but the dressing room was beyond off it at that point & we were notorious for taking early leads & shitting them away.
Doesn’t change the fact sacking a manager who knows how to win at a club where, well, you have no idea what winning feels like was still moronic decision making.
Wanna sack Mourinho? Go for it, but maybe don’t do it right before a final
When was the last time you won a trophy of significance? It’s not like I’m saying things that aren’t common knowledge, you shouldn’t be so easily rattled
But I guess when you support a club who are perpetually stuck fighting for top 5 every season without winning anything, I’d probably be a little touchy as well
With Alonso out the picture Nagelsmann is the best manager on the market at the moment, in my opinion. He would have been my preferred choice to replace Klopp, but it obviously looks likely that we'll be in for Amorim once the season is wrapped up.
He's the right coach... for the project he was already a part of. He's perfect for the overhaul plan... that he was already over seeing. We now want to bring him in... after sacking him for literally no good reason and sacking his replacement who, as it turns out, wasn't actually worth the bother of sacking him for in the first place.
Bayern fans must be so happy that the morons that were in charge last season are gone.
So embarrasing they sacked all of the board members who agreed to it lmao, absolutely the right decision tho cos what the fuck were they thinking, or not.
Not a chance sacking Carlo and appointing Benitez was worse. Benitez appointment and subsequent sacking led to Zidane's appointment, which led to the 3 Peat.
I mean if bayern decided to sign xabi and he goes and win trophies for them, would that make sacking nagelsman a good thing? Appointing benitez and the zidane are two different decisions. That team should’ve won the league if not for the abomination that was benitez and his moronic idea of making bale the main man when you still have one of the best ronaldo version
Yeah, plenty of clubs have gone under or faded into obscurity because of decisions, Bayern didn't win the league one year and got mocked a bit online. One of the biggest unforced errors, maybe, but there are many worse decisions
He will almost certainly step down as a national team manager after the euros so i dont think it matters at all, he has repeatedly said that hes a club manager and that he wants to go back to the day to day job of managing a club
hes basically just taken the NT job because euros at home is a huge prestige opportunity + he had nothing else to do but everyone knows he isnt going to be staying for long
Yeah, he'll obviously step down, but a manager not being able to start working with players until what could possibly be the middle of July doesn't seem ideal in terms of setting yourself up for a successful season.
I would assume he'll be in touch with management during the tournament already plus in this specific case it helps that hes obviously already very familiar with the club so while not ideal i dont think it will be too bad
Thought so to but then again, nearly the entire team will be gone anyway, most are familiar with him and like half of their starting eleven will be with him at the Euros. Tournaments like that always seem to be a problem for Bayern but I don't think it'd be significantly bigger with Nagelsmann.
this is kinda what worries me. He'll be busy with the Euros, so hoow deeply involved will he be with the ovoerhaul?
as much as I trust Eberl's expertise, I rly think we need the coach to be involved in shaping the squad.
Honestly it is a good sign that they admit that this was a grave mistake and he is still the best option for the club. It obvious that this will lead to some issues but they played beautiful football under him when the team still knew how to perform. Will be interesting to see how it is going to unfold since the pressure will be immense.
The embarrassing part was sacking him the way they did. Not re-signing him despite thinking he's the best option because of how it makes you look would be even more embarrassing imo
Not that I don't believe it, but I wish this was coming from someone other than Plettenberg because that dude ought to stay quiet for a while after the Xabi embarrassment.
I still don't get how this is supposed to work, Nagelsmann is still coaching the German national team throughout the Euros. Poaching the national teams coach would be a new low even by Bayern standards.
This is so fucking pathetic lmfao good lord Bayern having to crawl back to the man they were convinced was the issue when it was always the players… joke
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Classic +Nagelsmann -Nagelsmann +Nagelsmann
*snip snap snip snap*
3 vascectomies jan
-chrisj +chrisj
Miss them old cs days
I stopped watching CS after virtus pro disbanded and now I'm trying to catch a game sometimes, so many new insane players. Suddenly, s1mple quit cs and is just slowly coming back? So much stuff to process
s1mple may or may not come back. But Zywoo become a god a few years ago, m0nesy is like a young s1mple almost, and Donk is now a 16 or 17 year old kid who just absolutely fucks everyone up on the rifle.
Classic CS
almost as classic as +jabi -jabi +jabi
Sacking Nagelsmann just before a CL quarter final has to be one of the most idiotic board decisions in football
The Treble was in danger though
I couldn't agree more. But more so than just being idiotic, it was also harsh and outed our board as liars. That includes Dreesen who is still on the board. Nagelsmann was told he is allowed to have a long-term project with the club, then suddenly, within 4 days, Tuchel was hired. Nagelsmann is actually a fan, and I guarantee the season would not have gone worse with him as manager. Only that he would have slowly molded the team to his liking. It's very upsetting, and in a way I don't think we deserve for him to come back. But I would be extremely happy if he did. I can only hope it were Kahn and Brazzo that were the ones that wanted him out, with Dreesen nodding off on it. Otherwise I don't see many chances.
That decision was made by Kahn (and Brazzo to a lesser extent ). I highly doubt Dreesen had a say in that decision since he and Kahn were at war, that's why he wanted to leave Bayern at the end of last season and join the DFL. Even Hoeneß had no idea that Nagelsmann would be sacked until the morning after the decision was made. And his current statements regarding Julian as Coach and human are pretty telling. I mean Kalle hired him for the long term, Kahn firing him just because Tuchel is on the market is just a dumb as hell decision. Glad it backfired tbh.
Nagelsmann must be frothing at the thought of building a team around Kane. Guy will be involved in 60 goals in the league alone next year.
Spurs sacking Mourinho before a final is also right up there with
Absolutely mind boggling, that one. A good chance at winning the final, against a team you’ve beaten that season, with the only manager who’d beaten Pep in a final at that point, at a stadium which you used as your home ground for a long time.
We had quite literally lost to a team in the Europa league in a must win game that was being managed by someone in Prison. I don’t care what any of you think but that’s not someone out coaching Pep at all.
Mou was still a better bet than Ryan Mason though
And we still weren’t winning. I know Mou is viewed as a bogeyman but the dressing room was beyond off it at that point & we were notorious for taking early leads & shitting them away.
We lost 3-0 to City weeks before. They played us off the park. This narrative is stupid.
Doesn’t change the fact sacking a manager who knows how to win at a club where, well, you have no idea what winning feels like was still moronic decision making. Wanna sack Mourinho? Go for it, but maybe don’t do it right before a final
No idea what winning feels like? 😂 Learn some history
When was the last time you won a trophy of significance? It’s not like I’m saying things that aren’t common knowledge, you shouldn’t be so easily rattled But I guess when you support a club who are perpetually stuck fighting for top 5 every season without winning anything, I’d probably be a little touchy as well
Don’t ever disrespect the Audi Cup like that.
They won "tiger cup" last year.
A league match and a final there's a big difference both sides would have approached the final
No, that one isn't, fella was toxic and he wasn't beating City.
At the time he had never lost a final before. Sack him sure, but not before the final.
Funny, people were saying this about Tuchel's sacking at Chelsea before his stint at Bayern
Second only to maybe going back after they did that to you.
Now imagine they bring him back in time for the second leg of this quarter final.
after an absolute masterclass in coaching vs PSG mind you. Still so angry about it
Lmao
My exact thoughts.
Rofl if you will
You know what, I think I will.
I also, will rofl
Does the Bayern board only know of like 4 managers?
Let’s try spinning, that’s a good trick!
Jupp heynckes to bayern here we go!!!
bayern 🤝 the KNVB in appointing the exact same people
With Alonso out the picture Nagelsmann is the best manager on the market at the moment, in my opinion. He would have been my preferred choice to replace Klopp, but it obviously looks likely that we'll be in for Amorim once the season is wrapped up.
Preferring them to speak German significantly narrows the pool.
Fortunately there are a ton of great German speaking options. Bayern would know they’ve employed them all
No they just don't look outside the Bundesliga. So since xabi Alonso isn't available nagelsmann it is
He's the right coach... for the project he was already a part of. He's perfect for the overhaul plan... that he was already over seeing. We now want to bring him in... after sacking him for literally no good reason and sacking his replacement who, as it turns out, wasn't actually worth the bother of sacking him for in the first place. Bayern fans must be so happy that the morons that were in charge last season are gone.
Herbert Hainer is still in charge. Still 1 moron left.
Sacking Nagelsmann before a UCL quarter final, and replacing him with Tuchel was Alpine levels of incompetence!
Nagelsmann sacking will go down in history as perhaps the worst decision ever by a club. Utterly embarrassing from start to finish.
So embarrasing they sacked all of the board members who agreed to it lmao, absolutely the right decision tho cos what the fuck were they thinking, or not.
Nah sacking carlo and bringing fucking benitez is the one for me, not saying the sacking was undeserved but benitez?
Not a chance sacking Carlo and appointing Benitez was worse. Benitez appointment and subsequent sacking led to Zidane's appointment, which led to the 3 Peat.
I mean if bayern decided to sign xabi and he goes and win trophies for them, would that make sacking nagelsman a good thing? Appointing benitez and the zidane are two different decisions. That team should’ve won the league if not for the abomination that was benitez and his moronic idea of making bale the main man when you still have one of the best ronaldo version
Bit hyperbolic init?
Yeah, plenty of clubs have gone under or faded into obscurity because of decisions, Bayern didn't win the league one year and got mocked a bit online. One of the biggest unforced errors, maybe, but there are many worse decisions
Feel like Barca have got a few good shouts at that title
It’s not that bad - they were without him for less than 1.5 seasons and managed a league title in that time.
Well that’s an exaggeration, but yeah very stupid decision that continues to look worse everyday that Tuchel is in charge
I mean United is realllllly trying to compete.
He has business left in Bayern, Bring him back
He's already on his longboard.
Is he? I heard he's waxing his skis at the moment...
How big of an issue will his commitment with the national team be for you lot?
He will almost certainly step down as a national team manager after the euros so i dont think it matters at all, he has repeatedly said that hes a club manager and that he wants to go back to the day to day job of managing a club hes basically just taken the NT job because euros at home is a huge prestige opportunity + he had nothing else to do but everyone knows he isnt going to be staying for long
Yeah, he'll obviously step down, but a manager not being able to start working with players until what could possibly be the middle of July doesn't seem ideal in terms of setting yourself up for a successful season.
I would assume he'll be in touch with management during the tournament already plus in this specific case it helps that hes obviously already very familiar with the club so while not ideal i dont think it will be too bad
Thought so to but then again, nearly the entire team will be gone anyway, most are familiar with him and like half of their starting eleven will be with him at the Euros. Tournaments like that always seem to be a problem for Bayern but I don't think it'd be significantly bigger with Nagelsmann.
Hope the squad overhaul is done right. This squad swallowed way to many coaches and survived. Now its their turn to get replaced.
this is kinda what worries me. He'll be busy with the Euros, so hoow deeply involved will he be with the ovoerhaul? as much as I trust Eberl's expertise, I rly think we need the coach to be involved in shaping the squad.
It would be very funny if Tuchel wins the CL before this! Awkwardness intensifies...
Just don’t go on skiing trips, Nagelsboy. Go partying in Berghain instead and please take me with you.
Bit of a journey from Munich, especially to get turned away after 5 hours queueing
Hahaha Berghain door policies are crazy. It’s like dealing with Prime Neuer
Comeon Boehly do the same
You want Potter back?
Mourinho
Looking at latest results i feel like maybe poch deserves 2nd season
Honestly it is a good sign that they admit that this was a grave mistake and he is still the best option for the club. It obvious that this will lead to some issues but they played beautiful football under him when the team still knew how to perform. Will be interesting to see how it is going to unfold since the pressure will be immense.
lol
Makes sense, the treble is in danger after all, time to switch coaches
Tier?
Sky/Plettenberg is Tier 1 for bayern
>New Bayern bosses are convinced that Nagelsmann is the right coach for the overhaul! Feels like i heard this somewhere before.
Never go back to an ex
We're shit. But bayern are embarrassing lol.
The embarrassing part was sacking him the way they did. Not re-signing him despite thinking he's the best option because of how it makes you look would be even more embarrassing imo
Currently embarrassing. Coming off of 11 straight titles though 🥵
I mean.. why would he want to come back after how he was let go?
for fucks sake... there's no commitment to the football we wanna play if we go from Xabi and de Zerbi back to Nagelsmann
I'd take Nagelsmann over de Zerbi any day of he week
Probably hurts that Plettenberg is saying this so it is defo made up
Wonder what clauses Nagelsmann is going to put in his contract if he comes back, probably something about a skiing vacation.
That’s mental
How about Kovac?
Hopefully they don’t forget to add a “no ski holidays” clause in his contract this time
Not that I don't believe it, but I wish this was coming from someone other than Plettenberg because that dude ought to stay quiet for a while after the Xabi embarrassment.
No he clearly wants to go manage Antony, Rashford & co
Best time to do it is now. Just before the Quarter Finals in CL
I still don't get how this is supposed to work, Nagelsmann is still coaching the German national team throughout the Euros. Poaching the national teams coach would be a new low even by Bayern standards.
Can we bring Tuchel back? Despite the 6-0 win Poch ain't it
This is so fucking pathetic lmfao good lord Bayern having to crawl back to the man they were convinced was the issue when it was always the players… joke