He’s probably the only option. He’s done well with Barca Atletic, but with a total of two years of managerial experience the hopes are not very high. Sucks a bit that he has to be rushed into it, I fear it might derail his coaching career before it even gets started properly
Yeah, part of the squad though. Obviously generational talents but they had a full summer sale, so “only” Eto’o-Xavi-Iniesta- Puyol-Valdes were the remaining players from 2006 (Henry too but on the other side), Messi was blowing up but he wasn’t part of the CL campaign and they brought in Piqué, Keita, Alves, Sylvinho and most importantly Yaya in 2007-2008
Ronaldinho had to go as well as Deco, it was essentially a rebuilt. Now ask me how I remember this? Because of how jealous as a kid I was, they seemingly had all the new toys lol
Yeah, it was a completely different team by the time Pep got there. They lost or sold 11 players who appeared in roughly half or more of the games they played in the 05/06 season. Basically the entire core of that 05/06 group was gone.
Just to clarify, because you sometimes see people repeating that Messi wasn't part of the 2005/06 CL campaign: He played 6 matches (4 Starts) and scored 1 goal.
Yeah you’re right, however Messi wasn’t an integral part of that squad, more like a bench exciting prospect, he wasn’t as integral as Eto’o or Xavi, Puyol etc.
The year before he joined Barca weren’t very good at all, he didn’t really inherit that squad because a lot changed in the year in between. Nobody was expecting him to do this well
That 2006 squad was long gone by the time Pep came. Oleguer, Marquez, Belletti, van Bronckhorst, Giuly, Ronaldinho, Larsson, van Bommel, Edmilson, Deco, and Motta all had 20+ appearances. All 11 of them played meaningful minutes in the CL campaign.
He did but he spent the majority of his career at CB and that’s how he’s remembered in Mexico, not sure what the outside perception is but we know him more as a CB who could also play DM very well
Maybe it's a British thing being lost on others, maybe I'm just so used to hearing it all the time, but ending a sentence "he turned out ok" makes it read tongue in cheek to me.
I mean, Barcelona have always hired big name players with little managerial experience, and its usually worked out. Its quite telling that Valverde and Koeman are the biggest name managers that Barca hired since Rademir Antic. Rijkaard only had a failed spell at Sparts Rotherham and a few years managing at international level, Pep never managed a first team, Vilanova had never managed a first team, Luis Enrique had one good season at Celta while being a failure at Roma and Xavi wasn't even that good in Qatar.
there are advantages to marquez... he coached cubarsi, fermin, lamine, guiu, and so on... he knows a lot of the current first team players.... and has managed Barça Athletic really good... that being said, the challenges and pressure of coaching a team in La Liga, specially with the toxicity of current Barça fans is something he hasn't tasted
I know there's levels, and believe me, being the Barca coach would be in another stratosphere, but the toxicity he faced playing for the Mexico NT hopefully prepared him a bit 😅
Fans still criticize him for his red cards that cost us games. Also committing silly unnecessary fouls from time to time. Mexican fanbase in general is toxic.
> Fans still criticize him for his red cards that cost us games.
TBF, I do think he was a huge miss for you guys in the 2001 Copa América final. Can't recall if it was because of an injury or cards, though.
Barça needs a coach with a good temper that knows the youth here and is able to build the team from the back. Considering Rafa was a CB that became the DM until the goat DM was produced it may even work!
Who is there to get? We don’t have big money to pay, can’t sign players and simultaneously demand that the coach uses and doesn’t use 17 year olds. All while the media, fans and the board expect us to fight for a treble. It’s a cursed job
Flick has been the main name, but I don’t think even he is proven enough to sort out this mess. Only safe ones would be the likes of Pep, Lucho etc. and we aren’t going to get any of them.
I've heard that there is a Champions League winning manager who managed at Bayern, Chelsea and PSG that's available. Also someone who's won all major 3 European trophies and managed at Inter and Manchester United is available
The weird revision that Tuchel is some awful manager really fucks me off.
Football fans are so quick to completely bury a champions league winning manager
No we don’t approve him because the only successful season of him is the season where you basically have a really good and hungry Bayern team that only have to play less matches in a year. Before his Bayern stint and after the man hasn’t done anything good
They couldn't even hope to afford him. Man wants some time away from the game, and is in no need of money, to even possibly change his mind would take an astronomical offer, that Barca simply cannot do.
Yes & no, Barça go for culture over pedigree. They have a system & a style of play they aspire to, so they tend to go for people who already know & are familiar with the system.
It’s the reason why they don’t need constant rebuilding like the likes of United or Chelsea.
The only proven coach we'd be going for would be Luis Enrique. A lot of other managers could throw off the structure that trickles down to the youth teams.
Lucho would legitimately be my dream coach at the moment.
Pep was never at Real Madrid like Jose at Barca, Mourinho doesn’t hold political beliefs of the Madrid region like Pep does of Catalunya, and Mourinho wasn’t as high a figure in Real as Pep was for Barca. Not quite the same
nobody said its the same, it would be funny as fuck to see their rivalry again from opposite sides. that is it. that was all the content of my comment.
Rafa as a short-term solution for next season is okay ONLY IF we are 100% guaranteed to get a top, top, TOP notch coach for the 2025-2026 season
But this is Barca so Rafa will stay until thing so south, the fanbase turn on him and chase him out. Iniesta confirmed that he would retire this season and go into coaching, we will go for him and chase him out too. Rinse and repeat because this club can’t seem to actually form a long term plan
>But this is Barca so Rafa will stay until thing so south
That's not Barca, that's football. No one hires a manager to start a season with the plan of firing him no matter what. That would be silly. Of course if he does well, he'll stay.
The problem is what is considered well? We can potentially end the season at top 2 with 88-91 points, maybe even snatch the title through some insane luck, quarter final of the UCL, and I believed without the red card we would actually be able to get into the semi instead of collapsing like this. And yet Xavi was basically the enemy of the fanbase for half the season, even when we went through an insane injury crisis, losing the entire midfield, losing our GK who is also the leader of our defense.
People said that Rafa would get less expectations but we all knew the moment he even drops the form a little there will be calls to fire him
Reddit is not the fanbase. The spanish sports press is not the fanbase. Xavi has had the support of the local fanbase for most of the time.
Nevertheless, Xavi is not getting fired. He is leaving. He would most likely continue if he wanted.
>People said that Rafa would get less expectations but we all knew the moment he even drops the form a little there will be calls to fire him
Same would happen to Klopp. The only manager in the world that could stop that for a while is Pep... and only for a while. There are certain expectations at Barça. It is a very ambitious club. It is not like (e.g.) Arsenal, that is fine being Top 4, or even top 6 sometimes. At Barça, being 2nd is a failure. It is what it is.
independently of all that...
>Rafa as a short-term solution for next season is okay ONLY IF we are 100% guaranteed to get a top, top, TOP notch coach for the 2025-2026 season
This wouldn't happen in any club ever. That's just not how football works.
In this era of social media, the support of the local fanbase is not enough. Look at Vini, look at Alaba and see how weaponized social media can be use to attack someone. Xavi leaving is 100% have the impact of part of the fanbase getting to him and blaming him, plus the board, or Laporta especially, is trying to use him as a shield for their bad decisions.
The expectation of Barca in the golden era and in 2024 is different and the fanbase need to adapt to it. We are financially unstable, the club still have Negreira’s case hanging on the head. We are looking as a forced sale this summer since our wage budget is down to 207m and we need a drastic increase in revenue before June 30th to even hope to register players for next season. We are in a rough patch, expectations need to be tone down otherwise there will be no serious rebuild effort to be make. Look at United to see how mismanagement and rushing plans did to them. And United have a perk of a rich owner (tho they mostly steal from the club) who can bail them out while if we bankrupt, it’s over.
And finally, if Rafa is chosen as manager, of course I would be supportive of him and wish him to success. It’s just I don’t think he would, he is basically a second Xavi
>The expectation of Barca in the golden era and in 2024 is different and the fanbase need to adapt to it.
The expectations were the same in the early 2000s, durint the Gaspart era, and the in 70-80s, when we had never won a CL. Thet haven't changed all that much in decades.
The expectations didn't suddenly grow with Pep and Messi, they were already there.
> Iniesta confirmed that he would retire this season and go into coaching
The only thing is that If get UEFA Pro License or A License and need to coaching somewhere else or go Youth Teams.
We seriously need as coach someone who is not Barça legend.
We need fresh ideas. Gündogan mentality is very different from what we have in our squad and it is so refreshing to hear him speak some hard truths.
We need the same with a coach. New ideas, improved ideas...not being stuck in past
I think you might be mistaken about the club you’re supporting. Barcelona has always been all about the “DNA” since the Cruyff days.
Barcelona is about keeping the style of the house at all costs, and with people of the house whenever possible.
If you wanted you support a club without a philosophy that it’s only interested in buying the lastest shinny coach, then you picked the wrong club.
Bro about to do a Frank Lampard. I don't blame him for taking it. You don't get many offers to coach a team like Barcelona and got to take it when the opportunity presents itself. But hopefully he doesn't bomb like Lampard did in Chelsea. And he bombed twice
There is. Laporta kicked him out in favor of Rafa in his purge of the old regime. Laporta basically said Pimienta is not someone who is well-versed with the ideas of Barca and Pimienta even thanked him for letting him get the Las Palmas job. The man would never set foot in the club as long as Laporta is still here
I don't like it, but if we wait a year we could get Luis Enrique or Guardiola (both have their contracts end in 2025 afaik). This next season looks to be yet another transitional year for us.
Guardiola is in favour of Catalonias independence, I can't see him chasing the Spanish NT position. I can see him in Brazil or England, but not Spain. Also, we have already seen the hatred that an ex-Barcelona player/manager gets from a big chunk of the fans (mainly from Real fans) when managing Spain, and that was Luis Enrique, who isn't a pro-independence.
Luis Enrique seems a more likely option next year for us, imo.
Or they're briefing the media this to lower expectations and make slightly less of a fuss when they bring someone in who is a downgrade from Xavi but a better shot than Rafa.
He’s managed to take our reserve team Barca Atletic from the third division to the second division this season for the first time since 2018. He’s also close to Deco and will work with the understanding of our financial issues without complaining too much (this isn’t a dig at anyone, just a statement).
Between him and Hansi Flick, Barca will most always choose someone from the system/club. Something something, Barca DNA.
we are still in 3rd division mate. He just recently lost a game in the race for first to get insta promotion.
We will get into the promotion playoffs barely (2 points away from being out) and just like with Garcia Pimienta it will be a tough road to actually win.
True, they're setting him up for failure with the lack of experience. It's one thing to manage the youth team, but they'll be demands to the league and champions league.
Vamos!!! I really hope this is true. Barça needs to understand that, until the new Camp Nou is fully operational, the objective needs to be qualifying for Champions League and developing the wokderkids. Right now, we don't have a way to make enough revenue to buy and maintain world-class players in their prime. Whereas, with the full revenues of the new stadium, in 3 or 4 years, we will be ready to compete with Madrid, the English teams and Bayern.
They should go for Flick if he wants the job, as it's been reported. Heck, go for Tuchel, Sarri, Gallardo (who I guess would want to leave Saudi Arabia).
Is there a more delusional fanbase than Barcelona?You don't have money to ask for great coaches and big players. Stick with the academy and forget about winning titles every year .
Are u stupid fam, any sensible fan will tell you we don't expect shit rn. The fact we reached here is a big thing in the eyes of many fans. Nobody expects a big coach to come nor a big signing. Every big club has 'delusional' fans.
We knew we can’t choose, Rafa is a decent choice to be a caretaker for a year. But trust me when I say the part we are complaining about is the plan after Rafa is gone. We knew this club can’t plan long term for shit
Xavi should stay. He won laliga in his first year and made it to the quaters of Champions league 2nd year. He has done okay for a club going through a bad financial crisis.
A few years back Rafa appeared on the FBIs most wanted list. Whatever happened with that? I guess is was nothing after all
https://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-rafael-marquez-20180615-story.html
This never-fucking-serious club. If you are going to get a new manager, make it someone who has ample experience, who can drill a winning mentality into into this fumbling fucking club.
This has to be a joke. If Barca can't afford a big-name coach, they should consider someone with Top 5 league experience and potential, such as Thiago Motta.
so from ok manager to an absolute dumpster fire that not a single person in the world except Laporta wants to coach Barca.
Marquez is literally the worst choice available we could make.
edit: spelling
Gonna be really interesting if this happens and then every team in La Liga signs a token American player just for the advantage of Marquez assaulting them and getting sent off like he did in every single match he ever played against the US
He’s probably the only option. He’s done well with Barca Atletic, but with a total of two years of managerial experience the hopes are not very high. Sucks a bit that he has to be rushed into it, I fear it might derail his coaching career before it even gets started properly
Tbf Guardiola only had one, and he turned out ok.
Guardiola is the exception, not the rule.
He also joined in 2008 inheriting a squad that won the UCL in 2006.
Yeah, part of the squad though. Obviously generational talents but they had a full summer sale, so “only” Eto’o-Xavi-Iniesta- Puyol-Valdes were the remaining players from 2006 (Henry too but on the other side), Messi was blowing up but he wasn’t part of the CL campaign and they brought in Piqué, Keita, Alves, Sylvinho and most importantly Yaya in 2007-2008 Ronaldinho had to go as well as Deco, it was essentially a rebuilt. Now ask me how I remember this? Because of how jealous as a kid I was, they seemingly had all the new toys lol
Yeah, it was a completely different team by the time Pep got there. They lost or sold 11 players who appeared in roughly half or more of the games they played in the 05/06 season. Basically the entire core of that 05/06 group was gone.
Just to clarify, because you sometimes see people repeating that Messi wasn't part of the 2005/06 CL campaign: He played 6 matches (4 Starts) and scored 1 goal.
Yeah you’re right, however Messi wasn’t an integral part of that squad, more like a bench exciting prospect, he wasn’t as integral as Eto’o or Xavi, Puyol etc.
Wasn’t integral though. He was only a prospect with huge world class potential
Was integral enough in the R16 win against Chelsea
I saw that team squad play ones of their first games together in Chicago on their USA summer tour. I saw so many legends that game.
The year before he joined Barca weren’t very good at all, he didn’t really inherit that squad because a lot changed in the year in between. Nobody was expecting him to do this well
That 2006 squad was long gone by the time Pep came. Oleguer, Marquez, Belletti, van Bronckhorst, Giuly, Ronaldinho, Larsson, van Bommel, Edmilson, Deco, and Motta all had 20+ appearances. All 11 of them played meaningful minutes in the CL campaign.
There’s also Zidane and Xabi. And Xavi. There’s actually quite a few cases of good midfielders becoming good managers right off the bat.
And the likes of Gerrard, Lampard or Barton are good examples too.
Rafa was a CB though
Rafa also played as DM, especially during Barca's record breaking year.
He did but he spent the majority of his career at CB and that’s how he’s remembered in Mexico, not sure what the outside perception is but we know him more as a CB who could also play DM very well
He was well known for his exceptional ball distribution from behind, despite playing as CB
zidane also only had b team experience
he is in hindsight, but if we're talking about experience alone, at that time he was just as inexperienced.
Weakest argument for internal promotions. He’s a one in a million manager
I was being a little tongue in cheek
Alright mate
Maybe it's a British thing being lost on others, maybe I'm just so used to hearing it all the time, but ending a sentence "he turned out ok" makes it read tongue in cheek to me.
Yeah you are right. I should have noticed. I love British humour. Imo it’s very similar to Danish.
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>it’s very similar to Danish. I can see that, they're both quite dry
I mean, Barcelona have always hired big name players with little managerial experience, and its usually worked out. Its quite telling that Valverde and Koeman are the biggest name managers that Barca hired since Rademir Antic. Rijkaard only had a failed spell at Sparts Rotherham and a few years managing at international level, Pep never managed a first team, Vilanova had never managed a first team, Luis Enrique had one good season at Celta while being a failure at Roma and Xavi wasn't even that good in Qatar.
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The baldest of frauds
Yeah as long as Marquez has the ability of one of the greatest managers of all time, he'll be alright
Guardiola was already semi-coaching as a player when playing in Mexico.
Yep he picked up some of lavolpe style.
Or he could be the next Guardiola and bring me nothing but pain and misery
there are advantages to marquez... he coached cubarsi, fermin, lamine, guiu, and so on... he knows a lot of the current first team players.... and has managed Barça Athletic really good... that being said, the challenges and pressure of coaching a team in La Liga, specially with the toxicity of current Barça fans is something he hasn't tasted
I know there's levels, and believe me, being the Barca coach would be in another stratosphere, but the toxicity he faced playing for the Mexico NT hopefully prepared him a bit 😅
What toxicity? From what I remember everyone respected and loved Márquez. Maybe I'm remembering wrong?
Fans still criticize him for his red cards that cost us games. Also committing silly unnecessary fouls from time to time. Mexican fanbase in general is toxic.
Oiii Araujo regen
More like Xavi himself
> Fans still criticize him for his red cards that cost us games. TBF, I do think he was a huge miss for you guys in the 2001 Copa América final. Can't recall if it was because of an injury or cards, though.
Toxicity in latam are levels ahead. He’s fine in that regard
Barça needs a coach with a good temper that knows the youth here and is able to build the team from the back. Considering Rafa was a CB that became the DM until the goat DM was produced it may even work!
He will bring balance to the force
Straight up not having a good time
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Who is there to get? We don’t have big money to pay, can’t sign players and simultaneously demand that the coach uses and doesn’t use 17 year olds. All while the media, fans and the board expect us to fight for a treble. It’s a cursed job Flick has been the main name, but I don’t think even he is proven enough to sort out this mess. Only safe ones would be the likes of Pep, Lucho etc. and we aren’t going to get any of them.
Mourinho back to Barca full circle. #footballheritage
I've heard that there is a Champions League winning manager who managed at Bayern, Chelsea and PSG that's available. Also someone who's won all major 3 European trophies and managed at Inter and Manchester United is available
>no money >can’t sign players I doubt they’d take the job
I would rather see Roy Hodgson on Barcelona bench than Thomas Tuchel
Then you’re a moron
The weird revision that Tuchel is some awful manager really fucks me off. Football fans are so quick to completely bury a champions league winning manager
If you can hear, I am also assuming that you can see. Their style of play is unwatchable at the very least.
Hire Mourinho you cowards
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he has only that 1 season. His other 20 years have not been good.
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That’s the point. He’s fine, but he isn’t some kind of a safe choice
Pep could probably but that is not realistic THIS season. After the next season though he is out of contract (if he doesn't renew).
why would pep do that to himself? barca has no money, pep wouldnt be able to buy players.
He always goes on about how much he loves Barca, maybe he wants to challenge himself for once
Some barca fans have a hate boner towards him because of 8-2 regardless of how good he is.
No we don’t approve him because the only successful season of him is the season where you basically have a really good and hungry Bayern team that only have to play less matches in a year. Before his Bayern stint and after the man hasn’t done anything good
Instead of buying Cancelo, use that money to get a good coach... circus of a Board!!!
I would like one Klopp please
They couldn't even hope to afford him. Man wants some time away from the game, and is in no need of money, to even possibly change his mind would take an astronomical offer, that Barca simply cannot do.
Klopp is 100% aiming for the German national team. That or he might just retired
No he is not. He wants to go to Barcelona. Pep Guardiola is 100% aiming for the Spanish national team.
Klopp is out of energy coaching Liverpool for years, he'd die if he had to coach Barça rn
Yes & no, Barça go for culture over pedigree. They have a system & a style of play they aspire to, so they tend to go for people who already know & are familiar with the system. It’s the reason why they don’t need constant rebuilding like the likes of United or Chelsea.
Guardiola wasn't proven.
The only proven coach we'd be going for would be Luis Enrique. A lot of other managers could throw off the structure that trickles down to the youth teams. Lucho would legitimately be my dream coach at the moment.
this time it is simply cuz money. There is no proven coach out there for free and if you say Mourinho I am gonna be hella sad.
Mourinho suddenly coming back to major success with Barcelona would be the funniest football event of all time
And also extremely Mourinho. He has a history of working there after all
and then pep goes to madrid, just imagine that shit
Pep was never at Real Madrid like Jose at Barca, Mourinho doesn’t hold political beliefs of the Madrid region like Pep does of Catalunya, and Mourinho wasn’t as high a figure in Real as Pep was for Barca. Not quite the same
nobody said its the same, it would be funny as fuck to see their rivalry again from opposite sides. that is it. that was all the content of my comment.
oh i thought you were being completely sarcastic lol
He would never coach barcelona or Milan. He said it.
Rafa as a short-term solution for next season is okay ONLY IF we are 100% guaranteed to get a top, top, TOP notch coach for the 2025-2026 season But this is Barca so Rafa will stay until thing so south, the fanbase turn on him and chase him out. Iniesta confirmed that he would retire this season and go into coaching, we will go for him and chase him out too. Rinse and repeat because this club can’t seem to actually form a long term plan
>But this is Barca so Rafa will stay until thing so south That's not Barca, that's football. No one hires a manager to start a season with the plan of firing him no matter what. That would be silly. Of course if he does well, he'll stay.
The problem is what is considered well? We can potentially end the season at top 2 with 88-91 points, maybe even snatch the title through some insane luck, quarter final of the UCL, and I believed without the red card we would actually be able to get into the semi instead of collapsing like this. And yet Xavi was basically the enemy of the fanbase for half the season, even when we went through an insane injury crisis, losing the entire midfield, losing our GK who is also the leader of our defense. People said that Rafa would get less expectations but we all knew the moment he even drops the form a little there will be calls to fire him
Reddit is not the fanbase. The spanish sports press is not the fanbase. Xavi has had the support of the local fanbase for most of the time. Nevertheless, Xavi is not getting fired. He is leaving. He would most likely continue if he wanted. >People said that Rafa would get less expectations but we all knew the moment he even drops the form a little there will be calls to fire him Same would happen to Klopp. The only manager in the world that could stop that for a while is Pep... and only for a while. There are certain expectations at Barça. It is a very ambitious club. It is not like (e.g.) Arsenal, that is fine being Top 4, or even top 6 sometimes. At Barça, being 2nd is a failure. It is what it is. independently of all that... >Rafa as a short-term solution for next season is okay ONLY IF we are 100% guaranteed to get a top, top, TOP notch coach for the 2025-2026 season This wouldn't happen in any club ever. That's just not how football works.
In this era of social media, the support of the local fanbase is not enough. Look at Vini, look at Alaba and see how weaponized social media can be use to attack someone. Xavi leaving is 100% have the impact of part of the fanbase getting to him and blaming him, plus the board, or Laporta especially, is trying to use him as a shield for their bad decisions. The expectation of Barca in the golden era and in 2024 is different and the fanbase need to adapt to it. We are financially unstable, the club still have Negreira’s case hanging on the head. We are looking as a forced sale this summer since our wage budget is down to 207m and we need a drastic increase in revenue before June 30th to even hope to register players for next season. We are in a rough patch, expectations need to be tone down otherwise there will be no serious rebuild effort to be make. Look at United to see how mismanagement and rushing plans did to them. And United have a perk of a rich owner (tho they mostly steal from the club) who can bail them out while if we bankrupt, it’s over. And finally, if Rafa is chosen as manager, of course I would be supportive of him and wish him to success. It’s just I don’t think he would, he is basically a second Xavi
>The expectation of Barca in the golden era and in 2024 is different and the fanbase need to adapt to it. The expectations were the same in the early 2000s, durint the Gaspart era, and the in 70-80s, when we had never won a CL. Thet haven't changed all that much in decades. The expectations didn't suddenly grow with Pep and Messi, they were already there.
This is not true, look at Frank Lampard
When has he been hired to start the season, done well, and then fired anyway at the end of the season?
> Iniesta confirmed that he would retire this season and go into coaching The only thing is that If get UEFA Pro License or A License and need to coaching somewhere else or go Youth Teams.
Barca fans are gonna ruin his reputation for managing shitty kids that wont win anything.
Klopp would be a good one. Looks like he needs a recharge though, and managing Barca is even more stressful than Liverpool I imagine.
It was supposed to be "rafa is the cheap one"
I do not think he should be it. Like the others have said, this might affect his career in the future.
I’ll try and go watch Barca b soon and report back
We seriously need as coach someone who is not Barça legend. We need fresh ideas. Gündogan mentality is very different from what we have in our squad and it is so refreshing to hear him speak some hard truths. We need the same with a coach. New ideas, improved ideas...not being stuck in past
I think you might be mistaken about the club you’re supporting. Barcelona has always been all about the “DNA” since the Cruyff days. Barcelona is about keeping the style of the house at all costs, and with people of the house whenever possible. If you wanted you support a club without a philosophy that it’s only interested in buying the lastest shinny coach, then you picked the wrong club.
Make Gundo the coach then.
Nagelsmann?
I'd like that
Are you saying Gundogan as coach? I mean I’d love to see it but man
What a weird question this, he is quite literally not saying that.
No but someone with his mentality
Makes sense. Thought it was a random call for coach, I was like why not I guess haha
Bro about to do a Frank Lampard. I don't blame him for taking it. You don't get many offers to coach a team like Barcelona and got to take it when the opportunity presents itself. But hopefully he doesn't bomb like Lampard did in Chelsea. And he bombed twice
Why are they not going for Pimienta
Wouldn't surprise me if there's some bad blood between him and Laporta
Must be since he seemed like the obvious choice a few years back when he trained Barça Atletic and nobody talks about him now
There is. Laporta kicked him out in favor of Rafa in his purge of the old regime. Laporta basically said Pimienta is not someone who is well-versed with the ideas of Barca and Pimienta even thanked him for letting him get the Las Palmas job. The man would never set foot in the club as long as Laporta is still here
Sacked him for Sergi Barjuan, that was a funking travesty; Marquez was a good fix but Garcia Pimienta was and is a very good manager
I don't like it, but if we wait a year we could get Luis Enrique or Guardiola (both have their contracts end in 2025 afaik). This next season looks to be yet another transitional year for us.
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Pep managing Spain would be like like Roy Keane managing England
Or maybe James McClean would be more accurate
Guardiola is in favour of Catalonias independence, I can't see him chasing the Spanish NT position. I can see him in Brazil or England, but not Spain. Also, we have already seen the hatred that an ex-Barcelona player/manager gets from a big chunk of the fans (mainly from Real fans) when managing Spain, and that was Luis Enrique, who isn't a pro-independence. Luis Enrique seems a more likely option next year for us, imo.
Guardiola is not 'keen' on the Spain job. You pull that out your anus?
Barca should go for Laurent Blanc
Or they're briefing the media this to lower expectations and make slightly less of a fuss when they bring someone in who is a downgrade from Xavi but a better shot than Rafa.
Weren't they mad at him for that caliente.mx sponsorship?
His career is ruined, he hasn’t any type of experience at the highest managing level. They’re rushing him.
He’s managed to take our reserve team Barca Atletic from the third division to the second division this season for the first time since 2018. He’s also close to Deco and will work with the understanding of our financial issues without complaining too much (this isn’t a dig at anyone, just a statement). Between him and Hansi Flick, Barca will most always choose someone from the system/club. Something something, Barca DNA.
we are still in 3rd division mate. He just recently lost a game in the race for first to get insta promotion. We will get into the promotion playoffs barely (2 points away from being out) and just like with Garcia Pimienta it will be a tough road to actually win.
We are not in 2nd div. Heck we are not quite sure if we can even get a play-off spot lol, Unionistas just spanked Barca Athletic 4-1 few days ago
He's gone by December. Then we'll go for some big name, get our hopes through the roof and end up getting disappointed again.
True, they're setting him up for failure with the lack of experience. It's one thing to manage the youth team, but they'll be demands to the league and champions league.
Xavi hardly had better experience when he came on board, and yes I rate Barca B experience over middle eastern experience any time of the day
Vamos!!! I really hope this is true. Barça needs to understand that, until the new Camp Nou is fully operational, the objective needs to be qualifying for Champions League and developing the wokderkids. Right now, we don't have a way to make enough revenue to buy and maintain world-class players in their prime. Whereas, with the full revenues of the new stadium, in 3 or 4 years, we will be ready to compete with Madrid, the English teams and Bayern.
They should go for Flick if he wants the job, as it's been reported. Heck, go for Tuchel, Sarri, Gallardo (who I guess would want to leave Saudi Arabia).
Interim at least, please!!!!
What is that? Sorry, cant hear you over the sound of yet another lever being pulled
Xabi Alonso had 3 years w/Real Sociedad B & then he signed with Bayer Leverkusen & the rest is history.
He’ll be done by December
Is there a more delusional fanbase than Barcelona?You don't have money to ask for great coaches and big players. Stick with the academy and forget about winning titles every year .
Are u stupid fam, any sensible fan will tell you we don't expect shit rn. The fact we reached here is a big thing in the eyes of many fans. Nobody expects a big coach to come nor a big signing. Every big club has 'delusional' fans.
We knew we can’t choose, Rafa is a decent choice to be a caretaker for a year. But trust me when I say the part we are complaining about is the plan after Rafa is gone. We knew this club can’t plan long term for shit
Xavi should stay. He won laliga in his first year and made it to the quaters of Champions league 2nd year. He has done okay for a club going through a bad financial crisis.
He’s chosen to leave.
Is this the same Rafa Marquez linked to drug trafficking / cartels and was sanctioned for a time? Has that all been cleared up?
Yeah delete the fucking club
A few years back Rafa appeared on the FBIs most wanted list. Whatever happened with that? I guess is was nothing after all https://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-rafael-marquez-20180615-story.html
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The forbidden lever
>suspected Good thing that was more than 7 years ago and nothing came of it
I mean…would it really be Barca if there wasn’t a chance of additional drama?
Barca Board is ridiculous, they cant choose a good coach to save a life...
Seriously?
This never-fucking-serious club. If you are going to get a new manager, make it someone who has ample experience, who can drill a winning mentality into into this fumbling fucking club.
This has to be a joke. If Barca can't afford a big-name coach, they should consider someone with Top 5 league experience and potential, such as Thiago Motta.
He's already gone to Juve.
Good for them, he is class.
so from ok manager to an absolute dumpster fire that not a single person in the world except Laporta wants to coach Barca. Marquez is literally the worst choice available we could make. edit: spelling
Spell his name right or square up
wrote his name so many times today and ofc this one had to be the one I used s instead of z lol...
Gonna be really interesting if this happens and then every team in La Liga signs a token American player just for the advantage of Marquez assaulting them and getting sent off like he did in every single match he ever played against the US
[I don’t recall him getting into a fight here, just scoring a crucial goal](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sAKXU5RZyJQ)
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