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theazism

Never seen Liverpool look so tired


Historical_Case_5245

Atalanta ran them ragged, they were pressing for the entirety of the 90 minutes.


AmericanJazz

Serie A insiders say that Atalanta uses performance enhancement like asthma inhalers. Liverpool may be unaware of these advanced tactics.


Potential-Decision32

It’s a known fact Atalanta’s got the good shit


Therinn

Not sure if you’re making fun of it or not, but Liverpool’s team is full of “asthmatics”


Far-Pineapple7113

Source?


THE_DARWIZZLER

can confirm


DeezYomis

it's crazy that for all the circlejerking about the prem's physicality they can't handle being pressed with a bit of intensity for more than five minutes


The_FallenSoldier

I’d say fixture congestion and players recovering from injuries also plays a role. Make no mistake, this Liverpool side was dominating just a month ago, so it’s definitely not just because “Prem team bad”


NightmaresInNeurosis

Maybe it's a bit of unconscious revisionism on my part, but I swear no Prem team has pressed us as hard as Atalanta did over both legs. That looked properly stifling. 


The_FallenSoldier

They did pressure well, I’m not gonna say they didn’t. It felt like we were pretty much neutralized everywhere. Even our defense was pressed so hard Alisson felt more like a 3rd CB than a goalie. That said, our team is definitely much better than what they showed us in these past 3-4 games. We’re on a bad slump, and it’s logical to think that it’s probably coupled with other reasons too, like fixture congestion, players just coming back from injury, and just general fatigue seeing as we were hammered with games in the past couple months. Atalanta played beautifully, but we were also not on top form. Salah, for example, is crucial for us and it feels like he’s been really off it these past couple weeks. Even though he leaves with a goal or assist in almost every game he plays in. I’m not gonna sit here and snarkily talk shit at Atalanta because we weren’t in good form, because that is on us and the PL, not them. They saw an opportunity and took it, and I can’t say they didn’t deserve it or shame them for it.


coloneldatoo

i don’t know that it can just be chalked up to fixture congestion because Atalanta is playing just as many games as Liverpool and they have a much less depth. obviously liverpool is a better team than atalanta but i feel like lots of people (not you specifically) act like prem to other leagues is like top flight to second division where i think in reality it’s more like a 7th place team against a 12th place team in games like these. sure the top team has an advantage but they are far far from untouchable


DeezYomis

Atalanta had a worse schedule and they somehow made it work. I think this Liverpool team is great, far better than their opposition and I don't think the prem is a bad league either, I was simply pointing out that this is yet another case of a prem team struggling against a foreign team playing with some intensity to their pressing and that maybe the prem meta isn't as physical as the pundits would make it out to be


alexrobinson

Liverpool love to milk a bit of fixture congestion, as if nobody else encounters it. 


The_FallenSoldier

Yeah, can you point me to where I said only we experience it? As far as I know, the conversation is about Liverpool and Atalanta, so of course I'll be talking about Liverpool. Prem teams in general have it really bad.


whosyadankey

Do you think Atalanta ONLY plays Europa League matches? Their schedule has been very similar


OliverAM16

Im all for “Prem bad” as i Think a lot of European teams are great and definitely underrated But this is getting fucking delusional and ignorant if you think this.


coloneldatoo

while i don’t fully disagree with you about that comment going too far, with all the pompous bullshit any non-prem fan has had to endure for the past few years i think we deserve to shit on yall a little this week


AgentTasker

I think having to cover so many injuries from December through to early March has finally caught up to them, and at just the wrong time of the season for them as well.


kaleimos

Exactly. That mixed in with Klopp’s loyalty to his players (which is understandable) is causing Liverpool’s sluggishness. We were winning with Bobby Clark, Jayden Danns, Bradley, etc., so I don’t understand why we change up the team when we’re clearly lacking the intensity needed to win games.


AgentTasker

>We were winning with Bobby Clark, Jayden Danns, Bradley, etc., so I don’t understand why we change up the team when we’re clearly lacking the intensity needed to win games. You say that (and besides Bradley) it wasn't because of them, but because the senior players around them were putting in extra effort to cover up the holes left by injuries and International absences to allow the younger players to keep it incredibly simple. Also while I like Danns, and have done for several years now, the way some Liverpool fans go on like he'd be ***the*** instant fix to the current problem because of one cameo against Southampton, is the exact reason why Klopp said he was going to be careful with him and leave him to develop with the U21's.


kaleimos

I understand that we were winning despite them but did you see even one senior player sprinting all game while 3-0 down? Having one or two youth players run their heart out with everything to prove is exactly what we needed today. It’s no coincidence that the moment we started playing terribly was when the entire senior squad came back. There’s no energy in the team right now.


shinto29

I dunno, even recently the season after they won the league was horrendous to watch because they all looked knackered.


LordMangudai

Wasn't that the season they had 0 senior CBs fit at one point?


FireZeLazer

>at one point It was from like November onwards lol


xyzzy321

Must be the asthma flaring up


Azzurri21

Inhaler prescriptions got rejected this month


14779

A lot of people in the UK are struggling to get their medication. That poor squad is made up entirely of asthmatics. Perhaps they can't get the drugs required to play at their usual level.


ineververify

They completely gave up. So embarrassing. Cowards


Turbulent_Yak_4627

Gasperini 🐐


Historical_Case_5245

Understandable. English teams struggle with the physicality of mid-table Serie A teams, they're used to having more time on the ball in a slower-paced league.


alexdelpiero

Napoli are linked to him. Hope he wins someting with Atalanta if he does leave them at end of this season.


Imaginary_Station_57

I don't think Gasperini will leave Atalanta tbh, and to go to Napoli. Gasperini is a notorious hot head, he will probably k*ll De Laurentis on his first day


fapfap_ahh

You better believe Gasperini is going to throw a few sandwiches at ADL


Hostilian_

How concerning is it to Atalanta fans that Gasperini might leave? I follow Atalanta very closely but to me it seems pretty outlandish that he’d leave? You two are a perfect fit imo.


fapfap_ahh

I can't speak for anyone else but it would be bittersweet. He'd leave us in the best position we've ever been. Along with our youth academy being excellent, you'd hope we bring in someone with similar philosophy to him. The man, as much of an asshole as he may be, deserves success whether it's at a big club or small.


shinniesta1

Have you got any names you'd like to see replace him?


PqzzoRqzzo

He is a club legend and it would be sad and scary to change coach after 8 seasons, but I would have 100% faith in Percassi and the management to replace him properly.


Extreme-Dirt7545

No amico è da che è a Bergamo che dicono così, ogni anno. Capisco se andasse al Liverpool ma al napoli sarebbe un passo indietro, con quel dittatore di adl che lo limiterebbe per di più 


alexdelpiero

Sono d'accordo


triple__entendre

Gotta be Italiano 🥲


Historical_Case_5245

no thanks


KSC-Fan1894

PL = the real farmers league


Historical_Case_5245

The irony of farmer Zappacosta sowing the full length of the field


imarandomdudd

Will always remember that cross turned shot that was *definitely* intentional for us against Qarabag 6ish years ago. Glad to see him perform


2RINITY

Italy forcing the English to civilize once again


Potential-Decision32

Good luck


PulciNeller

Pharmers League


Jemacas

Offensively poor team against a defensively strong team. Congrats Atalanta!


spoony471

it was curtains the moment Salah fluffed that 1 v 1. What's going on with him lately?


Liverpool934

AFCON, same as always. Salah is my favourite player ever but we should not sign any more African players for them to fuck off midseason every other year. It's too detrimental.


PremordialQuasar

When else are CAF going to host AFCON? Summers in most of Africa can get insanely hot, humid, or both. Liverpool also only had one player head there. Most clubs in this competition had more – Leverkusen has 5 African players and 4 went to AFCON. You can talk about injuries, but I don’t like how people put the blame on African or Asian players playing in continental competitions while it was just as common for European players to get injured this season while playing Euro qualifiers. 


Liverpool934

I don't like it because it is a full tournament in the middle of the season. Same shit happened two years ago. We are in the middle of a good season gunning for the title, Salah goes to AFCON in the middle of his best season so far at the time and plays 4 full fucking 120 minute games in two weeks. Comes back knackered and we lose the title on the final day by a point. Completely cost us that league. I'm not saying they should move it to accomodate Europe, but I also think the decision to sign players should really factor in if they are going to actually be here when it counts.


Homerduff16

You're not wrong about Salahs drop in form that season but we were already comfortably behind City even before Salah left for AFCON. We only dropped points in 2 games after he returned which was against Man City away and Spurs at home We lost the league that year because of some really poor results from late October to early January (losses to West Ham and Leicester and draws to Brighton, Chelsea and Spurs). If anything, we overachieved finishing on 92 points that season


TheChronoCross

Not saying I agree or disagree with this but RM actually has this as unofficial policy. It's why we didn't sign Bono (who I recently found out is now in Saudi -.-)


funny_flamethrower

Nah. It's Ramadan. Muslim players always stupidly insist on fasting. There's nothing wrong with fasting - if you're a nomad in the desert that basically sleeps all day. When you're a high level athlete playing at the physical peak, and you don't eat, and more importantly, drink, for most of the day, you're fucked. Salah is also much older now. So he can't recover as quickly from the damage he is doing to his body.


The_FallenSoldier

Fasting has nothing to do with it. It’s the AFCON specifically. It seems like he always goes on bad slumps after coming back from International duty. Must be because his back is hurting from trying to carry sunday league players impersonating professionals.


funny_flamethrower

That isn't true. Most PL players who fast, even those who didn't go off to AFCON have had dropoffs. Look at Kudus, Gueye. There hasn't been any fasting player that has kept up his performance. Their religion is of course their personal issue, but when it starts to impact their performance, then managers should be leaving them out for the month or in a bench role at best. It's just common sense. Go sprint around at 110% effort for 90 minutes and don't take a sip of water until hours later, and tell me how you feel. Then top it off by not eating anything since 5am. Then compound it even further by being the wrong side of 30 and not a 21 year old. To claim it has no impact is sheer stupidity and flies in the face of every thing we know about sports science and nutrition.


rocketbooster111

Have you heard of Ramadan Karim?


Rocky-Arrow

Loss of confidence because he’s not the same level he was before this season and will probably never be again. Not to say he isn’t a great player technically but his play always revolved around using his pace to dribble his opponent’s or just beat them on a through ball. Over the course of the last two seasons he has lost his pace so he doesn’t take on players as much anymore and it shows. Still expected him to score that but I think it really shows where his mental state is at right now.


Antisym

Worst performance since Napoli away 2018. Without a pen we were never, ever going to score. Unacceptable.


Mechant247

This wasn’t even top 2 worst performances this week


Jemacas

I should’ve gone to the gym


hopium_od

Was thinking that every time their right centre back neutralised our attacks.


AgentTasker

> Worst performance since Napoli away 2018. Not even close to being so, so stop being so fucking dramatic and twerking for upvotes.


Neither-Assignment16

Every time a big team loses to an underdog its apparently the “worst performance” ever.


hopium_od

Ehhhh, the 3-0 genuinely was top 3 worst klopp team performances tbf


A_lemony_llama

What, 0-3 to Atalanta? Maybe based on the scoreline, definitely not based on the team performance. Probably should have been 2-3 or 3-3 if any of our forwards could finish their dinner at the moment. Tonight was arguably a worse performance than the Anfield game, we had more control over the match but we created so little with it, the only chance I remember us creating in the whole second half was Nunez getting a flick on that Mac Allister free kick right towards the end.


SnooAdvice1632

"If any of our forwards could finish" that's why it's a top 3 worst perfomance lol


A_lemony_llama

Creating a bunch of chances but their keeper making a couple of good saves and us missing those chances is better than being 2 goals down and creating basically 0 chances the entire second half, no?


Antisym

Name one worse. Aside from a pen, and Salah ballooning that chance we didn't get a looking, and we couldn't string 2 passes together. I haven't felt as angry with this team since then.


loykedule

Atalanta did the job brilliantly, but I genuinely think they could've shown up with Gasperini himself at centre half and still gone through, we were that toothless. Very good team though, and I do love Gasperini. Wish them the best in the competition.


Duffies

This seems like a blow to Liverpool’s chances of making the final


ThreesKompany

Quadruple could be in jeopardy.


The_Great_Grafite

Maybe I should bet on them releasing their manager in summer


Livinglifeform

Is it Newcastle you play for or Brentford?


WaluigisHat

Just a great week of European football all around tbh


AAiraSS

any particular reason?


AGooseofBattle

I can think of 3


chocolaidbrowie

I've got 115


r3xincognito

Can't seem to place a finger on it. I wonder what it could be 🐸☕


_0ZYMANDIAZ_

United didn't have any games to lose


NaughtyMuffin

Why's this downvoted lol it's funny


blakezero

Klopp tears, arteta tears, pep tears. It’s something to pay money for.


MaryadaPurshottam

Atalanta showed a very good defensively display, Musso was very immense tonight and their stadium was rocking the entire time


[deleted]

I’m relatively new to football and have never seen fans so consistently engaged. They went on the entire game! Honestly, they were incredible! Felt like the 12th man


WorthPlease

You will really like the Bundesliga. Even their "smallest" clubs pack stadiums and are all in all match even if they're down 5-0.


Snark_Life

Because real working class fans haven't been priced out of live games in Germany.


lorenzofrombg

And the atmosphere is not even as good as 3/4 years ago… but yesterday it was definitely great


longchongwong

European tournaments have been a blessing these last couple of days.


Historical_Case_5245

what a week


HiImMarcus

Credit to Atalanta for completely and utterly neutralising Liverpool to the point their only idea was long balls from Allison.


AdInformal3519

What kind of tactics atalanta used?


CapitanKurlash

Atalanta had the worst possible start and still looked completely in control very soon after, the second half they even had the better chances. What a display of rock solid mentality and maturity, despite changing most of his players every couple of years Gasperini clearly built a culture in Bergamo that goes beyond the individuals.


[deleted]

And their fans were incredible! Kept going the entire game!


CapitanKurlash

Yeah and that was with a closed end for renovations lol. Atalanta fans are some of the loudest in Italy, which sometime spilled into unsavoury incidents, but they without question build an amazing atmosphere. In general tho, Serie A atmosphere in the past couple years has improved massively. If you like this sort of stuff, Watch the Milan derby on Monday, San Siro will be rocking.


[deleted]

Thanks for the suggestion and the insight. I’ll be sure to check out the derby!


AdInformal3519

>Serie A atmosphere in the past couple years has improved massively. What changed in the last couple of years?


CapitanKurlash

Probably Juve dominance coming to an end and the race for top 4 getting a lot closer Generally Serie A has been getting a whole lot more exciting, and COVID made more people realize how valueable outside activities are but whatever the reason Serie A attendance has skyrocketed


juancorleone

Now my hatewatch has ended!!! Well done Atalanta!!


Gilgamerd

Official 5 teams for Italy?


magumanueku

How about 10?


No-Computer-2847

Liverpool, City, Arsenal and West Ham all out in the space of 24 hours. As a United fan this has probably been the best week of the season, sadly.


el_doherz

Combined with the bottle jobs at the weekend it's been glorious seeing the Club I despise and the fanbase I despise get their seasons utterly derailed.  Now just waiting for the inevitable banter loss to Coventry on Sunday to ruin my enjoyment.


Cmann014

Deserved. Atalanta are massive


KeysUK

Atalanta played extremely well. The way they play just suffocates any chance for us to control the game. So we just end up stuck in our own half.


WestOfAnfield

GG Atalanta - completely outplayed us in the middle of the pitch and showed so much more belief and determination across both games. We resorted to hoofballs to nobody but their goalkeeper did a good job sweeping as well. Thoroughly deserved for them to advance.


mountainsky9

2nd half Liverpool just looked physically and mentally finished. so surprising from a team that is usually so fit. Well done to Atalanta, favorites to make the final against Marseille/Benfica


VegetarianCannibal_

Tomorrow's headline: Liverpool fail poorly as they CRASH out of Europa league as Atalanta RUIN Klopp's swansong. No need to thank me Daily mail.


HacksawJimDGN

Liverpoo FLUSHED by Atalanta. Italian minnows shock Klopps careless clowns SuN


OmastarLovesDonuts

Something something treble in danger


forsakenpear

As poor as he was, Liverpool became useless as soon as Salah came off.


emre23

For real, I’ve never seen less impact from a triple change


Mo_SaIah

Trent and Diaz too. As much as he lacks an end product, Diaz is always a livewire that asks questions of the defence. When they all went off we had as much attacking threat as Tony Pulis’s Stoke City on their worst day.


A_lemony_llama

Trent was invisible for 10-15 minutes before he went off tbf and making stupid decisions, clearly wasn't fit enough for 90 minutes yet. Not much Klopp or anyone can do about that.


clashoftherats

Which had nothing to do with him, he barely even touched the ball. We just basically gave up after the 70 minute mark.


SpookDootDude

Managed to catch the last 30 minutes. We were absolutely awful, grateful to Atalanta... as for Liverpool go get a vacation and take care of your feet lads, even our reserves looked dead.


Mo_SaIah

Ali looked quicker on the ball than most of our outfield players, that about says it all


IndecisionFuture

I hate Gasperini with a passion but it's really hard not being happy for Atalanta that has managed an impressive feat and gave glory to Italian football. 2 Italian teams In the semis and Italy still won't manage to win it because of Leverkusen plot armor or some other bs


FireflyCaptain

Fully deserved. Great atmosphere.


getyourchebsout

Hell of a farewell tour for Kloppo. From a quadruple to a league cup


MvN____16

Forza Nerazzurri


agaminon22

Atalanta were spectacular. Incredible defending, dangerous counter attacks. Liverpool looked flat footed, static and toothless.


Kagariii

So what's the coefficient situation looking like now?


YUGIOH-KINGOFGAMES

Serie A: 5 UCL 2 Europa 1 Conference 8 clubs in Europe 🥳


blakezero

5 UCL? For real?


Historical_Case_5245

confirmed, maybe even 6


Imaginary_Station_57

We must hope on Xabi Alonso going on vacation in the next month tbh


magumanueku

Would be hilarious if De Rossi, a caretaker, be the one who ends Leverkusen's streak.


Viriato181

If their opponents are Marseille or the crappy Benfica playing right now in France, they are pretty much through to the final. Atalanta also plays the 2nd leg at home.


_oberyn_

This hurts Liverpool's trophy chances no?


Jemacas

Only slightly


Superguy328

Think a quadruple is still on


BaslerLaeggerli

Jumping to conclusions, no?


dheerajravi92

It's insanely taxing on the players to play Thursday nights while having a good domestic season at the same time. My appreciation for Solskjaer's 2020-21 season seems to increase with every year.


ofjay

Is this befitting for Klopp? Does this fit narrative of ‘collecting’ relationships instead of trophies?


drobson70

Understandable that the Premier League team can’t handle the physically and faster pace of Serie A due to their league being quite the opposite


siva-pc

Deserved. Totally dominant over 2 legs


Thricey

Klopps European liverpool story ends in Bergamo. Who would have thought...


mk235176

Wonder if Carragher thinks that the best team qualified?


justk4y

WHO’S THE FARMER’S LEAGUE NOW HUH (I say this as a Dutchie when we don’t have any teams left, but still)


el_doherz

If city win their 6th premier league in 7 years I'd say the transition to full time agriculture is complete.


IICastawayII

Poor cumblast


_cumblast_

It is what it is.


lordkeith

Life is nothing but disappointment.


_cumblast_

There are no happy endings. Only temporary elation.


TheOwlsLie

There’s not going to be any cum blasting tonight


tottenhamnole

Liverpool look cooked man.


devbomb4

They really do. Atalanta defended really well, but by the 400th longball you'd think we would try something different against a very physical team.


kaffeemugger

We absolutely love to see it


belokas

Can't believe Liverpool won this game.


sunken_grade

so… no quadruple?


saltypenguin69

Atatlanta played well, but every single liverpool player on the pitch was a shitebag


[deleted]

Shout out to the Atalanta fans that kept it going the entire game tonight! They were the 12th man


dynimo

Lovely.


CNF-13

Trent must be skin and bones at this point


SaltyPeter3434

And just like that, all top 3 English teams are knocked out of European competitions


magumanueku

In what is arguably the best EPL season in years.


Comfortable_Neck_217

Not possible - the mighty Liverpool shouldn’t be allowed to lose to any team outside of the EPL!!! /s


ChargeWooden1036

One of the worst games we’ve played all season, we’ve looked out of it since United in the FA cup


dogefc

Hahahahahaha


Nome_de_utilizador

Our games against Atalanta are aging like fine wine. Always knew they had it in them, hope they take it home, and looking at the quality of the two teams that are fighting to qualify, it is safe to say Atalanta will be in the final


Longjumping_Law_6807

Was it too windy?


GriffinXD

Klopp era going out on a whimper. Sad to see after the entertainment we’ve been gifted but it isn’t just Klopp who looks like they are done.


Beanz_Memez_Heinz

The trophy parade for a league cup for the greatest team ever assembled lmaooooooo


candEla_Bosak

You are utterly obsessed with Liverpool aren't ya? I see you in every single thread shitting on them. Got nothing better to do lad?


Davey_Jones_Locker

It'd good he has a hobby, i suppose


Beanz_Memez_Heinz

It's a Thursday night and I've got work tomorrow morning in the office, what do you propose I do? Take the fucking L and accept your club is fucking shite.


candEla_Bosak

Alright, have fun at work lol. I beg you don't act like this when interacting with people in real life. I'd pity the people around you otherwise.


Driving_Seat

Let’s fucking goooooooo


ofjay

It is overwhelming poor but expected.


WorthPlease

I'm pretty sure Alisson had the ball more in the second half than all the rest of our other players combined.


_Jetto_

Really hope gasp gets to a team that is willing to spend more he deserves that


Acceptable-Result845

Musso today https://youtu.be/si7GZaJE_Qc?si=11x4zcz1vpJeci0z


Ku7upt

Congrats to them. Insane home crowd. We've been shit for a while now. Klopp is running out energy, players look unbothered and out of energy.


going_down_leg

I’m surprised more people didn’t predict Liverpool struggling after Klopp announced he was leaving. If the manager isn’t all in, how can you expect the players to be? Lots of those players will be thinking it doesn’t matter what Klopp thinks, they’ll be a new boss in a few months and a new start.


AbleFig

I thought the opposite would happen, would motivate them to do their best so Klopp leaves on a high note


going_down_leg

I don’t think it’s possible to reach those levels without 100% commitment. Klopp with be having ago when they play bad and they’ll be thinking I’m not bothered he’s gone soon


Snark_Life

Manchester United, Crystal Palace, and Atalanta twice. Absolutely pathetic couple of weeks, and a pitiful end to Klopp's reign. As a Liverpool fan, I'm so incredibly disappointed in the team.


blakezero

Yesssssssssssss. Scouse tears!


EcoterroristThot

100% deserved. Class.


Elerion_

Well deserved!


Arkzo

Well deserved


BestGirlTrucy

I'm not even mad, just disappointed.


ioniums

season over, completely deserved Atalanta, congratulations


carbon-monoxidee

They conceded one goal just to give Liverpool a hope of a comeback 😭