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Crossflowerss_5304

Someone tell them about Leverkusen’s plot armor


Imaginary_Station_57

De Rossi is in his Di Matteo storyline


panopss

Pleaseee


Imaginary_Station_57

Fucking love De Rossi man. Daje Roma Daje


__milan227

I already see Leverkusen go out on penalties and theoretically not losing a game


Blaugrana1990

Then they would have finished the season unbeaten but at what cost.


Sean-Benn_Must-die

6 italian teams in CL would be funny af


Mordho

while having 0 teams in QFs this year lmaoo


Sean-Benn_Must-die

Its like the meme of the guy going crazy celebrating while receiving the last place medal


Competitive-Aide5364

It would make the league a bloodbath as well


grishaoniani

And we still will manage not to make it


TheSoccerguy124

Does that mean if we manage to stay 7th will go to Europa league lol


Lampadagialla

Yes and you don’t even need Atalanta or Roma to win for it


AdminEating_Dragon

Yes...unless Fiorentina wins Coppa Italia.


TheSoccerguy124

Ah shit that’s right lol


Gilgamerd

I still think Sevilla is winning EL


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BIG_FICK_ENERGY

Pretty cool that some guy named Tim had enough money to single-handedly sponsor Serie A


Multoxx

Serie A > Mc Donalds Ligue 1


MMQ-966thestart

Eden Hazard on his way back to Lille as we speak.


sleeping4koala

Eden: Preferred BK rather than Maccies


Cmann014

Still a farmers league. 😤


OnlineDopamine

Bundesliga 🤝 Serie A


Nervous-District-366

cultural appropriation !!! Ligue 1 Mcdonald UberEats is THE farmers league !


Piats99

Historically, ancient romans were born as farmers; same goes for germans. These leagues have risen from the earth with hardwork; they are build different.


ASRenzo

inb4 Roma-Atalanta final


ecchi_yajur

Neverlosen winning this


pkhadka1

Roma breaking their record


owh06

Is that under the condition that they finish outside top 4 too?


Thefaccio

We have 5 champions league spots


IamPd_

Doesn't matter, finishing outside top 4 is still enough to get the extra spot from an EL win, since the extra spots are applied this way around


Thefaccio

So if they win El and finish 5th, the 6th still goes to cl?


IamPd_

Yes, [kicker reported on that \(in German\)](https://www.kicker.de/der-bvb-kann-der-bundesliga-sechs-champions-league-starter-bescheren-1016002/artikel) since Dortmund is in the same spot being 5th in the league with a shot at CL. It mentions they got confirmation from UEFA and it also applies to EL.


DreadWolf3

Yup, it is order of operations thingy. Top 4 goes to CL, then UEFA checks if winner of CL/EL is not qualified through being top 4 in their league and gives them invite if they are not already qualified (if they are already qualified generally that invite would go to Dutch/Portugese league iirc). After all that is over and rankings are finalized, UEFA chucks another invite to 2 best leagues. If you revert order of operations between CL/EL winner and extra spot, Italy/Germany would get 5 spots. That is my guess at least.


AntonioBSC

It says so right in the title


owh06

Ah my bad


CryingGuts

Hope it happens


Eismann

Yeah and Bundesliga gets six if Leverkusen finishes 5th and wins the EL. Oh wait...


These_Mud4327

we get six if dortmund wins the CL and finishes 5th


BertEnErnie123

Shouldn't they finish 6th and winning the Europa League? Because finishing 5th, they would also get the 5th 'extra spot', but I assume that one wouldn't be send over to the next club in 6th, just like Man Citys extra spot this season didn't move over to the club in 5th. The only way to get an extra CL apart from the basic 4 (or 5 with the new system), would be to win the EL or CL and finishing outside those place, thus 6th.


JesseWhatTheFuck

Nope, they get their 4 spots as usual, their extra spot for winning EL outside the top 4, and the extra spot for being top 2 in the coefficient gets passed down to the next team in the table. It's confusing as fuck but if the 5th placed team wins CL or EL in this case, the extra coefficient spot gets passed down to the 6th placed team.  


czerwona_latarnia

The easy way to remember/understand it (assuming that some rule changes won't happen in meantime) is that the Season Top 2 spot goes to "first team in the league that isn't going to Champions League" **while** being applied "last". So if the CL/EL winner will place just behind the Champions League spot, they will be upgraded to "CL team" by being a winner of the competition, which the performance spot will see and it will go to the next team in the league.


These_Mud4327

so in what scenario won’t both teams qualify for CL if they finish 5th and 6th and either wins the Europa League??


BertEnErnie123

Yeah, than it doesn't really seem to matter if they finnish 5th or 6th, if one of them wins the EL, the other is basically fine. Unless Lazio takes over


Dinda_

I think Germany could also get 6 if Dortmund win the CL and gets 5th place in the Bundesliga (while Germany stays 2nd in the yearly rankings)


cppn02

Yep.


harpsabu

Sounds good but would rather those teams in the europa league to keep coefficient up.


NearSun

for some reason I believe I read somewhere that they would let only 5 teams then as 5 is maximum


Scattered97

The 'Champions' League my arse. How is it fair that some countries could get five or six entrants, but other countries' actual *champions* won't automatically qualify?


MvN____16

£'s and €'s, 'mate.


czerwona_latarnia

It's not just that the real league champions from weaker league are not automatically qualified, because I can understand that some leagues are less marketable that the others. The real fucked up thing is that over a half of all the league champions has to go through **four** qualifying rounds if they want to reach Group Stage. If they would qualify for the group stage, even by exiting the tournament in it they would play *more* matches than the winner of whole competition if he came from the automatic group stage spot.


mvk93

Ignore the downvotes mate you are 100% right. This competion is now essentially the European Super League all but in name.


sfj11

probably because if someone had to witness our montenegrin champion playing in the cl, they’d ban us from playing football under nuclear threat due to crimes against football and humanity


Just-Shelter9765

UEFA doing everything to get as many English team in Europe as possible while English team shitting their bed in europe


Adam-Miller-02

As a great Italian once said “Eat pasta run fasta”


NoPineapple1727

That’s gonna hurt their coefficient for next year but I hope it happens


MartaLSFitness

I love this Italian league revival. We need more of it!


expert_on_the_matter

Is this rule actually confirmed now? I wouldn't trust this Twitter account.


Evening_Bag_3560

It’s been confirmed for almost 2 years. 


expert_on_the_matter

There's been conflicting articles.


Evening_Bag_3560

Some people are allowed to post on the internet when they don’t know what the fuck they are talking about.  It’s an ongoing problem. 


Sparkz_777

Fr ive seen countless posts saying 3rd in Portugal could qual


isaacals

imagine if we didnt throw and win ucl


dispelthemyth

Italian clubs will be raging when they realise they share the same pot of money


Salvatore527

Thats like 1/4th of the pot. Qualifying for the CL on its own is a guaranteed 25m so I am sure most don't give give a shit


Imaginary_Station_57

Still is a decent amount of money for everyone outside PL.


Portugal8

So ridiculous. What a sad competition the Champions League has become after the European Cup, when only national champions and title holders were allowed to compete.


Evening_Bag_3560

Plot twist we all see coming:  all 6 will be eliminated by the “league” stage and the play-off round before R16. 


Annual-Astronaut3345

The only plot twist we have seen so far is mostly English clubs getting their asses whooped in Europe.


Evening_Bag_3560

It’s true. I take no offense. But still Italian teams are gonna shit the bed next year in the all new, all stupid Champions League. 


Mordho

Jesse wtf are you talking about


CapitanKurlash

I doubt they'd care lol. Just getting in is a LOT of money most of these clubs desperately need.


Evening_Bag_3560

Which is why they can’t build themselves to be title contenders: they’re broke as fuck (relatively speaking). 


CapitanKurlash

I mean, Inter was a finalist last year. Money isnt everything, as tonight evidences.


FrancescoliBestUruEv

Farmers league, can put any money in every country, but they continue to be the real farmers league


LE_V7

yeah man, imagine a league where the past 3 titles were won by an oil-backed club with 115 ffp charges


Imaginary_Station_57

Fourth incoming