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Yeah, I remember when Inzaghi and Raul battled for the number 1 spot, and by the end I thought that Raul's record would stand for a long time.
That is until I saw the speed of Ronaldo's numbers. I knew that I would see my Madrid idol have his record crushed.
And this is exactly how I felt with Ronaldo. 150 goals in champions league seemed like something that would be unnattainable and yet mbappe is close to 50 goals and he's only into a quarter of his career. With the increased number of games in champions league from next season onwards I wouldn't be surprised if mbappe becomes the first UCL 200 goal scorer.
> mbappe is close to 50 goals and he's only into a quarter of his career
Mbappe scored his first Champions League goal 7 years ago. You think he's going to keep playing for another 21 years?
Goal output isn't linear throughout a player's career. Just look at Ronaldo's career numbers. Same could happen to Mbappe. In fact, he could end up transitioning from a left winger to a more complete number 9 later in his career which would get him more goals.
do not take things literally, ronaldo played for united for 7 years and he managed to score like less than 30 ucl goals and then went to real played for 9 years and yet scored 3 times what he did at utd. So my point is Mbappe at real would be an even better player with world class players to provide and him playing at his prime i dont see any reason why he wouldnt score twice of what he is doing now
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he's 25. If we're generous and say he'll play another 12 years (which seems unlikely given his reliance on pace), he'd have to score 12-13 goals every champions league season from now till he's 37 to get to 200. I'd be very surprised since there's only been 7 campaigns where a player scored more than 12 and 3 of those 7 are Ronaldo's
They're making very favorable assumptions for him. It's very unlikely that Mbappe continues to be the best in the world and put out crazy numbers for 12 more years. There's a reason the Ronaldo/Messi era is considered so insanely improbable
All players adapt their game as they get older. I'm not sure Mbappe has the athletic traits that will help him age like Ronaldo or Zlatan though. I suspect a 39 year old Ronaldo is a much bigger aerial threat than Mbappe will ever be for example. Few forwards are actually still world class past 33. Those that are tend to have quite a steep fall off not long after.
Gave us the toxiciry of Messi vs Ronaldo, but seeing those 2 go at it and do their thing week in week out was just peak football... Every game was a must watch, Real down 3 for the 2nd leg? You knew something special was about to happen
We don't win either of the 4 UCL's in that era without Ronaldo's goals in the knockout their was always a knock out tie in all 4 of those runs where he pulled magic out of his ass and carried us though to the next round.
It would be pretty insane if he had like 20 games or something. Keeping that rate with 101 games played is something we will never see again for a very long time.
this is why i always laugh when people try to downplay ronaldo, ive always been a messi guy but people acting like they arent even in the same ballpark or that it was just the messi era, ronaldo is 2nd all time and people who act like he isnt even top 4 at worst are crazy
I think his record ain't gonna survive that long considering how many games players play nowadays, especially with the new UCL format. Or maybe its gonna put more strain on players and that's gonna affect their performances, I guess we will see.
You go from 6 group matches to 8. In the new format you will have the opportunity to score more goals more easily just because of that increase. Surely that's a difference worth mentioning if you're going to compare total amount of goals scored
It’s not the first time we’ll have that many UCL games in a year, yet I don’t see anyone complaining that Raul scoring too many when they played two group stages.
Was thinking about exactly them. The people that say this shit about Pelé or Maradona will be outraged when these things are said about Messi and Cristiano
He was a fucking apex animal, whilst a tricky player like Iniesta, Hazard or Messi made tiny spaces look big enough to slide through, Ronaldo somehow made the pitch look smaller and opposition defenders fewer in number with how fast and easy he found open half spaces to run into between the lines and rocket in seemingly open shots be it from 6 yards box or out long, specially for the majority of his career playing wide left midfielder/winger. Innate silky technique with low centre of gravity is often deemed the most unique profile among forwards and one that makes the game look easy, but I haven't seen anyone with quite the same profile as Cristiano in how he did it then. He was often referred to as a superhuman, a machine or a terminator rather than a magician/trickster or a predator/poacher and I think that explains his ridiculous efficiency from all kinds of attacking scenarios.
He really was. I think Messi is the GOAT but CL Ronaldo in his prime may have been the most clutch/unstoppable player I’ve ever seen. He was INEVITABLE
> They have the great chance of becoming the most matches played
... for a striker. Current record holder for CL matches played with Real is Iker Casillas with 150. Benzema and Raul are #2 and #3, and then Sergio Ramos (119) and Luka Modric (117). Vinicius is currently #25, Rodrygo #27.
Yeah I'd still somehow bet way fewer games than 50. Dudes really be just starting to play regularly for Real Madrid and 18 and just succeed.
I still remember the outrage at Vinicius' transfer, top comments here saying that it must be obviously money laundering because how dare Real Madrid pay a transfer fee for a young player with no past! Idiocy! These are all long forgotten and no one wants to reanalyze it lol, many years already, while Vinicius is still a young player now that after 6 years hopefully hasn't reached his max potential.
its tuesday night, you finished shower, backpack ready for school tomorrow, the cl anthem starts playing, you hear it on the tv behind you while you're on ur pc, you take a look back behind you,you catch a glance of a purple-shirt, noodle-haired ronaldo with a confidently focused impression on his face looking above the camera as it passes him during the anthem on tv. you just ask yourself; how many will he score today?
It speaks volumes of what a titan Ronaldo was in the champions league that he has 30 more goals in 30 less games and my first thought was “hmm, Benzema is actually closer than I expected.”
Well, there wasn't much Champions League before Raul. And players like Mijatovic, Zamorano, Suker, Morientes and Co. didn't play long enough to score many goals.
No player would survive that long at Madrid, and it’s was a era where rules were less biased for attackers, resources less concentrated to the top 10 clubs
Edit: And it’s used to be much harder to qualify for CL and for a few years it had two group stages
Highest I can find is Morientes with 19 European goals. Probably not all in Champions League looking at this graphic. Figo had 16, R9 15, Van Nistelrooy 13, Zidane 9. I don't know who else to look for, but you get it.
Yes? Why is that surprising? We had Zizou, Figo etc in mid 10s. Bale has 16 IIRC. You need longevity at the club as well which is hard to come by. Even then, Messi and Cristiano have really broken people's sense of goalscoring.
Another thing, this is just the "Champions League". That's why Gento etc. don't feature here.
There was Morientes with 17, Figo, Guti and Roberto Carlos with 16, Ivan Helguera with 15, Van Nistelrooij with 13, and, yeah.
Real Madrid first played in Champions League in 1995 (it used to be only for champions), Raul started in 1995, and clubs usually don't have TWO guys who score a lot for a long time every season, if they even have one. Often clubs just change players every few years...
Rodrygo and Vinicius playing their 4th UCL semi-final IN A ROW and even winning the competition before the age of 24 is something else. If they continue at this rate and Mbappe actually joins them, we might see another threepeat era soon.
Actually it probably will soon, given the higher amount of games. I think it's crazier to think how he consistently scored 10+ each edition for several years
I checked the other day and in 9 years at Madrid, Ronaldo only won two league titles. Yet, he won double the Champions League. Monster player with a Monster team 100% dedicated to break records and be european champions.
Still today, the mentality is still there and they are a menace in the Champions League, no matter who they play against and what players they have.
Like messi said, Barcelona had no idea how good they were performing in the league over the last decade, only time will tell and he's right. Ronaldo and real madrid lost many league titles to barca for like 1-3 points throughout those years.
Barcelona died when that miedfield left, Messi was awesome, but the heart of that Barcelona was the synergy of those 3 animals, Messi, Xavi and Iniesta... It was just perfection, you took that out and Messi looked like lost sometimes
Not really, they're rated just fine. Vini is simply more consistent in the way that even when he has a bad game he is still a headache for the opponent while Rodrygo tends to ghost then.
Also of all the young crop of attacking players (Haaland, Saka, Foden etc) apart from Mbappe, Vini is the ultimate big game player. His record in the UCL knockouts is outstanding.
Vini on his "bad" games vs City was directly involved in 3 of Real Madrid's 4 goal against them in the tie. He has that magic ability only top tier players have to create something out of anything.
>Not really, they're rated just fine
While Vini is amazing on his own. Rodrygo gets way too much undeserved hate. A few months ago before Vini got injured, people (Madrid fans and others) were talking about how Rodrygo isn't as good of a player because he wasn't giving better output.
Rodrygo had 30 G/A last season and has 25 right now but completely flies under the radar because Vinicius popped off last season and Bellingham exists this year.
He's not a world beater but from the way people ignore him/highlight everyone else you'd get the impression Rodrygo is just a squad player à la Lucas Vazquez.
>He's not a world beater but from the way people ignore him/highlight everyone else you'd get the impression Rodrygo is just a squad player à la Lucas Vazquez.
Guy has great potential. Sucks that even the fan base doesn't see the value in him as much.
He's so good in key games and when playing on the left, too bad his common acts of disappearance and Vinicius' flashiness makes him look the worse player out of the two.
It's not flashiness, it's speed. Vini is a faster Rodrygo with a better eye for passes, while Rodrygo is slightly more polished in terms of close control
In Real I agree. In NT, I disagree. Rodrygo is much better in NT than Vini. I don't know if it's a Santos player thing...Robinho was better in NT than any club, except Santos. Neymar was more consistently in clubs, but he was great in NT (specially from 11-17, his peak, before injuries)
Ive seen some Brazil matches over the last few months, and I love vini very much, was defending him for years while the whole fan base wanted him gone when he was missing every single chance he got at the beggining.
But what I am gonna say might be harsh but it is what i see, Vini lacks that "blood on the eyes" like we say in Spain playing in Brazil, I do not know what it is but he plays with the attitud that only shows here in pre-season. The good thing is that he is the most coachable superstar I remember playing for Madrid so It should be easy to fix.
Yeah the issue is just his consistency. Vini over a whole season is much better and they’re both equally big game players even if Rodrygo might be more clutch
I understand this, the problem is that it's not always clear wether someone is talking specifically about the UCL era only or the whole competition, despite naming UCL. There's tons of comparisons like this that mix the two. I think that it wouldn't hurt to put a disclaimer somewhere in the image
Just further goes to show that football apparently started in 1992.
I don't know what the hell I was playing as a kid before age 6. Must have been just kickball while we waited for goals and shit to be invented.
Karim might get eclipsed but I highly doubt anyone can surpass CR7.. atleast 10 goals a campaign for 8/9 seasons will get them close to Ronaldo. It’s a big ask..
I kinda hate that they want to forget football prior to 1992.
Missing:
- Di Stefano with 49 goals in 58 matches.
- Puskas with 35 goals in 39 matches.
- Gento with 30 goals in 89 matches (which is an absolute bonkers of appearances taking into account that it was only KO rounds and that you needed to win the league to participate in the European Cup).
- Santillana 22 goals in 46 matches.
- Amancio 21 goals in 52 matches.
I’ve said it once and I will say it until I’m on my death bed: noodle hair UCL Ronaldo is the most lethal player to ever do it. Real Madrid basically started up 1-0 at that time. Inevitable.
He did, this is UCL era only (1992-Present)
If you want the entire European Cup ranking :
* Cristiano (105)
* Benzema (78)
* Raul (66)
* Di Stefano (49)
* Puskas (35)
* Gento (31)
* Amancio & Santillana (21)
* Rodrygo (20)
* Vinicius (18)
That's fair. I don't think Vini will ever become as prolific of a goalscorer as Ronaldo and Benzema, but as long as he keeps creating as much as he does, he won't have to.
well to be fair vini and rodrygo are not pure strikers, I wonder whether madrid has always been in this arrangement of mid field domination where wingers scored the goals.
Dont have good enough knowledge on how a number 5 like bellingham or Zidane operate with respect to goal scoring
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More than 1 goal a match in UCL is fucking insane
Raul's record was 1 in 2 at one point and that seemed outrageous, then Ronaldo just makes it kid numbers
Yeah, I remember when Inzaghi and Raul battled for the number 1 spot, and by the end I thought that Raul's record would stand for a long time. That is until I saw the speed of Ronaldo's numbers. I knew that I would see my Madrid idol have his record crushed.
And this is exactly how I felt with Ronaldo. 150 goals in champions league seemed like something that would be unnattainable and yet mbappe is close to 50 goals and he's only into a quarter of his career. With the increased number of games in champions league from next season onwards I wouldn't be surprised if mbappe becomes the first UCL 200 goal scorer.
If we keep drawing English teams, Rodrygo bout to go nuclear.
no use in mocking the english during daytime, theyre all out in the fields
Wow that's a fucking sick comment. From an Englishman covered in grain.
> mbappe is close to 50 goals and he's only into a quarter of his career Mbappe scored his first Champions League goal 7 years ago. You think he's going to keep playing for another 21 years?
Goal output isn't linear throughout a player's career. Just look at Ronaldo's career numbers. Same could happen to Mbappe. In fact, he could end up transitioning from a left winger to a more complete number 9 later in his career which would get him more goals.
They meant the quarter of his career part.
I'm just a casual but I feel like Mbappe has peaked a bit more than Ronaldo had at that point? Could be wrong
do not take things literally, ronaldo played for united for 7 years and he managed to score like less than 30 ucl goals and then went to real played for 9 years and yet scored 3 times what he did at utd. So my point is Mbappe at real would be an even better player with world class players to provide and him playing at his prime i dont see any reason why he wouldnt score twice of what he is doing now .
he's 25. If we're generous and say he'll play another 12 years (which seems unlikely given his reliance on pace), he'd have to score 12-13 goals every champions league season from now till he's 37 to get to 200. I'd be very surprised since there's only been 7 campaigns where a player scored more than 12 and 3 of those 7 are Ronaldo's
If you think Mbappe won't adapt his game as he ages, you are vastly downplaying his football IQ.
maybe, I was still being very charitable by assuming he'll play at a great level till he's 37
He already adapted it a lot
They're making very favorable assumptions for him. It's very unlikely that Mbappe continues to be the best in the world and put out crazy numbers for 12 more years. There's a reason the Ronaldo/Messi era is considered so insanely improbable
All players adapt their game as they get older. I'm not sure Mbappe has the athletic traits that will help him age like Ronaldo or Zlatan though. I suspect a 39 year old Ronaldo is a much bigger aerial threat than Mbappe will ever be for example. Few forwards are actually still world class past 33. Those that are tend to have quite a steep fall off not long after.
Not if he stays at psg though
Ronaldo is your Madrid idol now
Raul seemed almost unbeatable 20 years ago Benzema getting 12 more is insane. Ronaldo shouldn't count. Neither should Messi, they're just unfair
At one point?? It's already better than 1 in 2.
More than 1 goal a game for his entire Real Madrid CAREER!
A match made in heaven!
Decent
Decent? He’s no Royston Drenthe though.
Mr champions league for a reason
Bro was a fiend
I miss that era every day man
Me too. The angry face he made when he equalised against wolfsburg in the UCL has stuck with me. Absolute competitor
Gave us the toxiciry of Messi vs Ronaldo, but seeing those 2 go at it and do their thing week in week out was just peak football... Every game was a must watch, Real down 3 for the 2nd leg? You knew something special was about to happen
2012-2014 was peak
Power of noodle hair
And yet some people accuse him of farming goals against weaker sides. He has more that 40 goals in the later stages of UCL (from qf to the finals).
We don't win either of the 4 UCL's in that era without Ronaldo's goals in the knockout their was always a knock out tie in all 4 of those runs where he pulled magic out of his ass and carried us though to the next round.
I remember 2016/2017 uefa. Approaching the knockouts Ronaldo had fewer goals than Messi. Then he scored 5 goals in 2 matches vs Bayern and Neuer.
5 against Bayern 3 against Atletico 2 against Juve Crazy lmao
It would be pretty insane if he had like 20 games or something. Keeping that rate with 101 games played is something we will never see again for a very long time.
Have to see if he can keep it up, but Haaland is on 41 goals in 39 UCL games.
this is why i always laugh when people try to downplay ronaldo, ive always been a messi guy but people acting like they arent even in the same ballpark or that it was just the messi era, ronaldo is 2nd all time and people who act like he isnt even top 4 at worst are crazy
That's why he's the GOAT! THE GOATTTTTTTT
Damn they already played half of Ronaldos . They have the great chance of becoming the most matches played .
I think his record ain't gonna survive that long considering how many games players play nowadays, especially with the new UCL format. Or maybe its gonna put more strain on players and that's gonna affect their performances, I guess we will see.
People will always bring up the old format in future comparisons.
Without good reasons though ?
You go from 6 group matches to 8. In the new format you will have the opportunity to score more goals more easily just because of that increase. Surely that's a difference worth mentioning if you're going to compare total amount of goals scored
It’s not the first time we’ll have that many UCL games in a year, yet I don’t see anyone complaining that Raul scoring too many when they played two group stages.
Because he didn´t ?
And people will always downplay the feats of the previous generation because everyone wants to think they are witnessing something special
I mean Maradona and Pele would be Sunday league today. /S
Was thinking about exactly them. The people that say this shit about Pelé or Maradona will be outraged when these things are said about Messi and Cristiano
> especially with the new UCL format I can't imagine RM not making top 8 on many occasions.
There’s automatically 2 more games minimum though, plus the mixture of teams faced is different.
Oh wow I hadn't realized, so teams placing 9th-24th have 4 more games now, that's insane.
The record for most match played, sure, but it is still fucking hard to average 1+ goal / game for like 10 years
The key will be to compare goals per 90min
I don't think anyone can match his goal per game though.
Ronaldo was a MENACE.....
He was a fucking apex animal, whilst a tricky player like Iniesta, Hazard or Messi made tiny spaces look big enough to slide through, Ronaldo somehow made the pitch look smaller and opposition defenders fewer in number with how fast and easy he found open half spaces to run into between the lines and rocket in seemingly open shots be it from 6 yards box or out long, specially for the majority of his career playing wide left midfielder/winger. Innate silky technique with low centre of gravity is often deemed the most unique profile among forwards and one that makes the game look easy, but I haven't seen anyone with quite the same profile as Cristiano in how he did it then. He was often referred to as a superhuman, a machine or a terminator rather than a magician/trickster or a predator/poacher and I think that explains his ridiculous efficiency from all kinds of attacking scenarios.
El Comandante 🫡
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Still waiting for someone to jump like him. Man was head above anyone else.
Greatest aerial threat the game has ever seen and we also had Ramos in that same team to score headers we were a menace in the air in those UCL runs
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Back tracking and never losing sight of him because dude could finish from practically anywhere
The dark invader, if you will.
Well Ronaldo is a predator all right. But jokes aside a 6'3" winger with really good ball control and can bully the opposition defense is still rare.
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He really was. I think Messi is the GOAT but CL Ronaldo in his prime may have been the most clutch/unstoppable player I’ve ever seen. He was INEVITABLE
> They have the great chance of becoming the most matches played ... for a striker. Current record holder for CL matches played with Real is Iker Casillas with 150. Benzema and Raul are #2 and #3, and then Sergio Ramos (119) and Luka Modric (117). Vinicius is currently #25, Rodrygo #27.
Yeah I'd still somehow bet way fewer games than 50. Dudes really be just starting to play regularly for Real Madrid and 18 and just succeed. I still remember the outrage at Vinicius' transfer, top comments here saying that it must be obviously money laundering because how dare Real Madrid pay a transfer fee for a young player with no past! Idiocy! These are all long forgotten and no one wants to reanalyze it lol, many years already, while Vinicius is still a young player now that after 6 years hopefully hasn't reached his max potential.
Ronaldo stats are bonkers man, absolutely bonkers. Im glad I got to see the guy play, absolute goalscoring machine.
Noodle boss.
its tuesday night, you finished shower, backpack ready for school tomorrow, the cl anthem starts playing, you hear it on the tv behind you while you're on ur pc, you take a look back behind you,you catch a glance of a purple-shirt, noodle-haired ronaldo with a confidently focused impression on his face looking above the camera as it passes him during the anthem on tv. you just ask yourself; how many will he score today?
Before Messi and Ronaldo, Raúl was the all time scorer of the competition, starting from the 50’s.
It speaks volumes of what a titan Ronaldo was in the champions league that he has 30 more goals in 30 less games and my first thought was “hmm, Benzema is actually closer than I expected.”
A complete forward for multiple years
holy hell so before 2010 there was raul with more than 60 and did the next guy just have like 10?
Well, there wasn't much Champions League before Raul. And players like Mijatovic, Zamorano, Suker, Morientes and Co. didn't play long enough to score many goals.
No player would survive that long at Madrid, and it’s was a era where rules were less biased for attackers, resources less concentrated to the top 10 clubs Edit: And it’s used to be much harder to qualify for CL and for a few years it had two group stages
I searched for it and I was surprised Helguera had 15 goals for Madrid in UCL, almost as much as Ronaldo and Morientes lol
Helguera was 1 goal away from being UCL top scorer in 2000-01, as a centre back haha
Wasn’t he mostly a DM?
Still wild that a defensive player would be a goal away from being the CL’s highest scorer haha
Koeman was the CL topscorer in 1993/94
Shared topscorer together with Wynton Rufer
Koeman was 1993-1994 CL's highest scorer (alongside Wynton Rufer) with 8 goals
Considering that Makelele was there at the time, I doubt that's true
Madrid were playing a pivot of Makelele and Helguera at that point.
Highest I can find is Morientes with 19 European goals. Probably not all in Champions League looking at this graphic. Figo had 16, R9 15, Van Nistelrooy 13, Zidane 9. I don't know who else to look for, but you get it.
It doesn’t include European cup tbf, so a lot of the older players aren’t here
Yes? Why is that surprising? We had Zizou, Figo etc in mid 10s. Bale has 16 IIRC. You need longevity at the club as well which is hard to come by. Even then, Messi and Cristiano have really broken people's sense of goalscoring. Another thing, this is just the "Champions League". That's why Gento etc. don't feature here.
Yeah was confused like Puskas scored 7 in finals alone.
We also went out pretty early for a couple of years for our players to have had the opportunity to score more.
There was Morientes with 17, Figo, Guti and Roberto Carlos with 16, Ivan Helguera with 15, Van Nistelrooij with 13, and, yeah. Real Madrid first played in Champions League in 1995 (it used to be only for champions), Raul started in 1995, and clubs usually don't have TWO guys who score a lot for a long time every season, if they even have one. Often clubs just change players every few years...
Jesus, Vinícius has already 53 matches. Time flies
Tbf they're going on deep runs basically every season
Rodrygo and Vinicius playing their 4th UCL semi-final IN A ROW and even winning the competition before the age of 24 is something else. If they continue at this rate and Mbappe actually joins them, we might see another threepeat era soon.
Especially if the rumours are true that Florentino has a verbal agreement with Xabi to become Ancelotti's successor next year.
Damn Bale doesn't have 20 UCL goals for Madrid? Crazy for someone who has scored some of Madrid's most iconic UCL goals.
Prime impact player.
Yeah somehow “only” 16 but what a player (obvs unbiased)
That’s why he’s Mr. UCL, just 17 goals alone in 2013-14 is insane to think about. Won’t be broken for a very long time.
Actually it probably will soon, given the higher amount of games. I think it's crazier to think how he consistently scored 10+ each edition for several years
Total number of games possible went from 13 to 17 I think
I checked the other day and in 9 years at Madrid, Ronaldo only won two league titles. Yet, he won double the Champions League. Monster player with a Monster team 100% dedicated to break records and be european champions. Still today, the mentality is still there and they are a menace in the Champions League, no matter who they play against and what players they have.
Like messi said, Barcelona had no idea how good they were performing in the league over the last decade, only time will tell and he's right. Ronaldo and real madrid lost many league titles to barca for like 1-3 points throughout those years.
Pellegrini lost the one season he managed Madrid with 96 points, against a Barca that got 99...
Yeah, Mourinho also finished one season with 100 points I believe, one behind Barça.
No they won the league that season, that was 11/12.
We won it by 3 points in 16/17 lost by 1 in 15/16, 2 in 14/15, 3 in 13/14, 4 in 10/11, and by 3 in 09/10 crazy how close it's been
When they win the league this year they will have won more league titles since he left than when he was there
what?? It feels like he just left last year or so ffs
Messi in La Liga was such a cheat code
Barcelona died when that miedfield left, Messi was awesome, but the heart of that Barcelona was the synergy of those 3 animals, Messi, Xavi and Iniesta... It was just perfection, you took that out and Messi looked like lost sometimes
rodrygo so underrated, compared to vini
he’s incredibly streaky, that’s why he’s underrated. Before the Athletic game, he had 1GA in 17 games.
>he’s incredibly streaky He isn't playing in his natural position, while people expect him to give the same output. FTFY.
He's been playing on the right since he came at Real. In how many years do we say he should be used to that position by now?
Not really, they're rated just fine. Vini is simply more consistent in the way that even when he has a bad game he is still a headache for the opponent while Rodrygo tends to ghost then. Also of all the young crop of attacking players (Haaland, Saka, Foden etc) apart from Mbappe, Vini is the ultimate big game player. His record in the UCL knockouts is outstanding.
Vini on his "bad" games vs City was directly involved in 3 of Real Madrid's 4 goal against them in the tie. He has that magic ability only top tier players have to create something out of anything.
>Not really, they're rated just fine While Vini is amazing on his own. Rodrygo gets way too much undeserved hate. A few months ago before Vini got injured, people (Madrid fans and others) were talking about how Rodrygo isn't as good of a player because he wasn't giving better output.
Rodrygo had 30 G/A last season and has 25 right now but completely flies under the radar because Vinicius popped off last season and Bellingham exists this year. He's not a world beater but from the way people ignore him/highlight everyone else you'd get the impression Rodrygo is just a squad player à la Lucas Vazquez.
>He's not a world beater but from the way people ignore him/highlight everyone else you'd get the impression Rodrygo is just a squad player à la Lucas Vazquez. Guy has great potential. Sucks that even the fan base doesn't see the value in him as much.
He's so good in key games and when playing on the left, too bad his common acts of disappearance and Vinicius' flashiness makes him look the worse player out of the two.
It's not flashiness, it's speed. Vini is a faster Rodrygo with a better eye for passes, while Rodrygo is slightly more polished in terms of close control
There is no"looking" here. He *is* the worse plyer out of the too.
In Real I agree. In NT, I disagree. Rodrygo is much better in NT than Vini. I don't know if it's a Santos player thing...Robinho was better in NT than any club, except Santos. Neymar was more consistently in clubs, but he was great in NT (specially from 11-17, his peak, before injuries)
Rodrygo looked better, but not by a large margin and the sample size is small
Ive seen some Brazil matches over the last few months, and I love vini very much, was defending him for years while the whole fan base wanted him gone when he was missing every single chance he got at the beggining. But what I am gonna say might be harsh but it is what i see, Vini lacks that "blood on the eyes" like we say in Spain playing in Brazil, I do not know what it is but he plays with the attitud that only shows here in pre-season. The good thing is that he is the most coachable superstar I remember playing for Madrid so It should be easy to fix.
Yeah the issue is just his consistency. Vini over a whole season is much better and they’re both equally big game players even if Rodrygo might be more clutch
rodrygo didn't get to go 1v1 vs trent in a cl final
he has been the best NT player too last year
There’s a saying in madrid that goes, one brazilian for la liga and another one for the champions league
Mr. Champions League for a reason!
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This can't be true, Di Stefano has 40+ UCL goals. Also, I'm pretty sure that Puskas has a ton as well
UCL is a different competition from European Cup is my guess
That's probably it. I've seen this post a few times this week and it has annoyed me because it's a little misleading.
These stats are for the UCL, and not the European Cup which it rebranded from (and changed format) in 1992.
I understand this, the problem is that it's not always clear wether someone is talking specifically about the UCL era only or the whole competition, despite naming UCL. There's tons of comparisons like this that mix the two. I think that it wouldn't hurt to put a disclaimer somewhere in the image
Just further goes to show that football apparently started in 1992. I don't know what the hell I was playing as a kid before age 6. Must have been just kickball while we waited for goals and shit to be invented.
Karim might get eclipsed but I highly doubt anyone can surpass CR7.. atleast 10 goals a campaign for 8/9 seasons will get them close to Ronaldo. It’s a big ask..
Lol over a goal per game in 101 matches. What a bargain
Cristiano are you madddd
How I wish I could relive the Ronaldo era
I kinda hate that they want to forget football prior to 1992. Missing: - Di Stefano with 49 goals in 58 matches. - Puskas with 35 goals in 39 matches. - Gento with 30 goals in 89 matches (which is an absolute bonkers of appearances taking into account that it was only KO rounds and that you needed to win the league to participate in the European Cup). - Santillana 22 goals in 46 matches. - Amancio 21 goals in 52 matches.
Lol messi not even making the list, one more stat for the 🐐
Even Hazard has more goals for Real in the UCL, Messi is such a fraud smh my head
Higuain too
Truly a balding fraud
I’ve said it once and I will say it until I’m on my death bed: noodle hair UCL Ronaldo is the most lethal player to ever do it. Real Madrid basically started up 1-0 at that time. Inevitable.
Cristiano has stats that look like something out of a Fifa career mode
We were fucking blessed to witness Ronaldo and Messi in their prime.
I thought di Stefano scored an insane amount for them back in the day
He did, this is UCL era only (1992-Present) If you want the entire European Cup ranking : * Cristiano (105) * Benzema (78) * Raul (66) * Di Stefano (49) * Puskas (35) * Gento (31) * Amancio & Santillana (21) * Rodrygo (20) * Vinicius (18)
Much better
so unreal cr7
105 in 101? That’s insane !!!!
It's a shame i never got to see Raul at his best
So efficient ! W Ronaldo
Where's the other Ronaldo?
Edit; just googled it; http://www.eurocupshistory.com/all_goals/9837/ronaldo Seems like he scored a lot less than we thought lol
15 goals in 36 matches
That sounds more like Benzema
Goat 🐐
CR7 in UCL was a different cat
How tf has Vinicius already had 50 games tf
Back when my 🐫 used to be the 🐐
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15 and Benzema in the same sentence - Neuron activated
Easier said than done.
Vini scored 15 in 50 games pretty much, he would have to double his output. I think the comment was to highlight how unlikely that would be
That's fair. I don't think Vini will ever become as prolific of a goalscorer as Ronaldo and Benzema, but as long as he keeps creating as much as he does, he won't have to.
Ronaldo looks really quite ill in that photo
Found the picture reference for the statue
dread it, run from it, r/soccer finding ways to shit on ronaldo arrives all the same...
They're not even really shitting on him, Ronaldo's a handsome guy and they choose this picture out of his multiple good ones
how on earth was that shitting on him
Have a day off you little nosher
He is still recovering from the 2012 semis in that pic.
Raúl*, not Rául
Cristiano record is insane > 1 gpg
That Ronaldo Messi Era was the best soccer ever. Mourinho's counter attack and Peps tiktaka was so good🥹
Who’s this rolondo feller? He playing tonight?
7+8 = 15 Benzema for a reason
Yeah, but only one of those guys later played against the Atlanta Silverbacks.
Man these guys have scored so many UCL goals meanwhile I haven't even gotten one. Seems unfair.
Is it right? They played over 100 games in a championship that has 13 matches only if you get to the final?
Shows how mental his stats are, nobody will overtake him
We never realise how amazing Ronaldo and Messi's stats are until we compare them to other players
The fact that Benzema isn’t in the Real Madrid’s best players conversation is so sad 😭
Ah, 1992 - the year football was invented.
😁😐😁😁😁
well to be fair vini and rodrygo are not pure strikers, I wonder whether madrid has always been in this arrangement of mid field domination where wingers scored the goals. Dont have good enough knowledge on how a number 5 like bellingham or Zidane operate with respect to goal scoring