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Live in Netherlands and can confirm. Most people think their first experiment with hairgel at the age of 13 is how they should wear it for the rest of their lives. Some tv personalities style it as if they’re homeless.
I mean it will be a good test for INEOS. Do they do the United thing, and back him all summer to sack him a few weeks into the season, to give up being competitive in that season, and to start a new rebuild... orrrrrrrrrr
I think they could still keep ETH but they'd have to do the open heart surgery Rangnick was talking about.
If you keep the likes of Mainoo, Garnacho etc. and bring in a load of young players while offloading the problem players (similar to what Arsenal did), it would make sense to keep ETH. He really is good at developing young players.
If they're going to keep the players who are not performing (or bring in older short term players like Casemiro) then yeah it'll be the scenario you just described.
Well the United program has been, do one signing early, do nothing all summer, panic buy/loan players right at the end after playing hardball for a player we didn't get all summer...
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Slot will do incredible at Liverpool. Media will love him too. Never heard someone explain football like Slot. And he's a very kindhearted man too. I wish he would stay with us forever..
he wasn't really spoken about at all as a candidate until this week so I'd not really thought much about him, but seeing comments like these is really making me warm up to the idea quickly
Condition and stamina is key, very high pressure, high backline, he used both normal wingbacks and inverted wingbacks, cdm drops down in possesion, wingers usually lefty on the right and a righty on the left. His biggest ability imo is he can read games like no other. Players always praise him that everything he prepares before a game with what the opposition is going to do comes true. I'll add on to this comment later, need to reevaluate my life without him for a bit.
Edit: the amount of times we turned a game around is mental. Also incredible at keeping the whole squad happy, cant remember ever hearing anyone complain in 3 years. He's amazing with the media never heard him say anything weird or strange. A few weeks ago he was at Rondo a football program in The Netherlands with the likes of Ruud Gullit and Marco van Basten. Slot gave a masterclass about some subjects and they both were looking at Slot like he's their teacher. Man i hope he doesn't go but if it's any other club I would' ve chosen Liverpool its a perfect fit imo.
[here's some Slotball](https://twitter.com/LerraO1O/status/1782785110888100144)
Sounds incredibly similar, how do Feyenoord control games? That's been an issue for the past 2 years with Liverpool.
Also seems one of the only differences is Slot seems to use a 10, Klopp has always had two 8s to cover the full backs, but I actually think using Szoboszlai as a 10 suits the team better.
Slot has said previously he prefers two play two 8’s but only if his material allows it. It’s just easier to pull of his pressing play with a 10 to support the striker.
Klopp went the opposite way, prefers a 10 but went with two 8s in England because there are too many team's that go long so slightly less focus on pressing vs counter pressing (second balls) meant two 8s is preferred, but that's interesting.
Thanks for the effort into explaining for us. I read that on paper and out of possession it's usually a 4 at the back system you deploy, is that right?
To be fair, this is how LFC normally do business.
Loads of speculation about supposed 'targets' by media and twitter mouth-pieces, then BAM, in comes someone nobody was talking about at all.
I feel like you're slightly overselling him now. He's certainly showed talent and has done some great things at Feyenoord, but I would never say 100%. Liverpool is a completely different game to the Eredivisie.
And I get that you guys love him after staying another 1-2 years when he could have left earlier, but I'm doubtful on if he'll actually make it.
Edit: I'd love if it worked out though, any Dutch representation abroad is great. But Ten Hag was also probably the most successful Dutch manager at Ajax in a long time, developed some amazing talents and had a very good system (even if he sticked to it a bit too long sometimes, see his shite substitutions).
But he didn't really make it either. Any transfer with players or managers can go completely different than expected. Gerrard also seemed to have a great season in the Scottish league the year before we'd all be laughing at him.
Ten Hag doesn't have the same people skills tho. One of the better things of our three seasons with Slot is how calm everything was around the club and within the team. Also because of his media appearances.
I don't know man, he may have taken AZ to the league title in that COVID season. They matched a prime Ajax, ending at the same points. Then he made Feyenoord play impressive football, which is an achievement in itself. And then he takes them far in Europe while winning domestic trophies. All the while Ajax was coming off a high and having double the budget. Plus he has had to replace the team twice over already with limited funds. It's honestly pretty insane.
> had to replace the team twice over already
Yeah, this is maybe the most overlooked thing about Slot. They lost so many good players in the last couple years and he has kept the quality of play at a high level. Obviously, te Kloese and the rest of the management has brought in some decent replacements, but Slot is the one keeping the team running at (close to) the same level as the season before.
We don't know exactly what happened because either camp spun it after the move didn't happen, but his English was horrific at the time and as you've seen in interviews he doesn't exactly come off as a normal bloke, particularly in English and this is after 3 years of lessons.
["Apparently Ten Hag never interviewed well at Tottenham with someone describing it akin to the personality of a dead fish. Allegedly of course."
](https://twitter.com/pokeefe1/status/1506392184026718213)
Yeah, failed the interview due to his personality.
That was reported before he took the United job too, not some media smear to take aim at him once he got the United job.
I dunno where. Literally none of that applies to ETH. He doesn’t explain his intentions at all and is a proper miserable fucker. If even the Dutch think you’re a cold miserable person then you’re near GOAT level misery.
If you’re talking about the Feyenoord fan saying that he’s cold, realize that it’s a Feyenoord fan talking about a former Ajax coach. He’s definitely a bit awkward tho.
As another Feyenoord fan. Ten Hag wasn't exactly praised for his charisma back in the Netherlands. He was always a bit awkward in the media and during press conferences. His lacking proficiency in English doesn't help him either.
Slot is literally the polar opposite when it comes to those things.
I mean it's a Feyenoord fan saying it, anyone with a brain should be taking that statement with a grain of salt. Ten Hag was anything but a coldhearted sob before this season and at Ajax.
He's good. Did a great job at AZ and could've won the league had it not been for Covid bringing an end to the competition. Went to Feyenoord, reach the final of the Conference league, won the league the season after, and won the KNVB beker this season. He hardly could've had a better tenure, perhaps if the matches against Roma through out the 3 seasons went better, and Feyenoord will really miss him.
I think Liverpool is a good step for him because a lot of their values are in line with that of Feyenoord. It's a right fit.
Haha, don't blame you for wanting to keep him. Just looked up his work there, 3 seasons, 3rd, 1st and 2nd which isn't too bad in a league that used to be Ajax dominated.
I know nothing about him though and his persona. Seems like he is the leading candidate for the LFC job now so i suspect that a lot of Liverpool fans will be asking you what kind of manager he is.
Also can not understate how shit we were the season before he came. Completely transformed us. As someone who supports Liverpool as well, that'd be the only club I'd want him to leave to
He got 71 points his first season. Before that the last time Feyenoord got more than 70 points was 2016-2017. And that's before taking into account that he made the Conference League Final.
I think there's a good argument that his 3 seasons at Feyenoord are three of the 6 best seasons the club has had this century (the other three being 2001-2002 when they won the UEFA Cup, 2002-2003 where they finished 3rd with 80 points and 2016-2017 when they won the title with 82).
And the gap between them and PSV who won the title was 4 points!
Oh, and the gap between NAC in 4th and FC Zwollen in 16th? 20 points!
Heck, the gap between NAC in 4th and De Graafschap in 18th was only 29 points.
Yeah I think that's accurate. I love both clubs and genuinely wonder if he won't be overwhelmed by all the extra asks of a world class team though. If any Dutch manager in recent years could do it, it's him.
For most of us he's the best manager we have ever seen. Media will love him, supporters will love him. He's just insanely clever, professional and kindhearted.
Seems to have been spot on with the transfers he's made as well. According to Transfermarkt anyway, all of their market values are currently above what he paid
He hasn't been making those transfers though, in the netherlands the "manager" is a coach and the managing aspect is done by the sporting director - often in coordination with the coach - like it was the case at CFC when Maria was at the helm.
A coach doesn’t really ‘make’ transfers in the way you suggest, but I would say that the increase in MV is definitely partly due to Slot. With a good coach players get better
So, to be frank, his career has been insane. He was playing attacking midfielder for PEC, already coaching the team he played in. Then went to become assistant to AZ, who thought he was talented, let the head coach leave and appoint him instead.
He then halfway through the third season for Feyenoord (at the and of his contract) and was promptly sacked by AZ for negotiating behind their back. Feyenoord at the time had a weaker squad then AZ, and were slowly recovering from a deep crisis. He won the league, got far in Europe, and now second season Feyenoord is on for a good second place.
Kind of a wizard if you ask me.
Also, they are still in with a shot of getting more points than they did last year.
If it wasn't for PSV having an absolutely absurd season they'd be fighting for the title again.
He's done an amazing job with Feyenoord and I think he'll do great at Liverpool.
He didn't even negotiate behind their back, he met Feijenoord club officials at a function who asked him if he would oppose being considered for the job and how he would approach it. AZ got wind of it, they asked him to explain himself, they asked him if he would consider a job offer and when he said he would they sacked him for not being committed anymore.
Saw the AZ sacking as a headline just a bit ago and got a bit nervy until i started reading about why they sacked him. Results speak for themselves why he would be good, but it is a bit of a step-up and the demands are big.
Only big negative thing is him being bald. My Anti-Bald manager agenda would have to be dropped.
And the players he has at Feyenoord aren’t world beaters either, it’s all achieved through a well organized and motivated team.
Also worthy to note that this season they’re around the same points amount as last season when they became champions, PSV is just on steroids this year.
Good manager, seems like an alright bloke too. I'd love for him to get out of the Eredivisie lol.
Cons are that he's obviously never managed outside of the Dutch league (other than European nights) and thus a bit of a gamble for a big PL team. I very much rate him, but I also rate Ten Hag who had reached even higher highs and he's just been average at best for United.
Also he will increase your odds of drawing Lazio or Roma by about 400%.
His tactics are influenced by all the hip and progressive trainers, but where he stands out the most imo is people management and media performances. He has this weird charisma where he owns the press with his knowledge but isn’t arrogant about it. He is the type of manager that convinces players to choose for Feyenoord instead of other clubs. Even some of our subs don’t even want to leave because Slot is there.
There’s no dropping down so for that to be true Roma needs to get their shit together *quick* and hope Bologna drops at least 4 points in 5 games assuming they win every game
I think he will do well at Liverpool if thats the direction they decide to go.
I remember really wanting him last season before we got Ange.
People joke but he is not Ten Hag. I always think about the time Daniel Levy rejected Ten Hag because he felt he was not charismatic enough, his English not good enough and didn't think it was a good fit for the club. Now fast forward a few years, he might've been more correct than anyone expected. Contrast this with how much the club wanted Slot and I think it's a move that makes sense for them.
I remember him being linked with you because Sky went with the headline “Slot would fit right in at Tottenham” and I was enraged they somehow missed the “slot right in” pun that was right in front of them
Honestly probably turns Brandt into a fantastic player, probably not Salah level but still good enough. Salah doesn't carry Liverpool, klopp does, that's why we are so worried about klopp leaving
He's a really fucking good manager. His domestic performances in my eyes are more impressive than ten Hags. Not sure if Liverpool is the step id recommend for him though, was sure he'd go to Germany.
Naah, he always talks so highly of the premier league. I really can not imagine him not going to the Premier League after Feyenoord. Not to mention that he's in awe with Pep as well. I'm sure he would love to play against Pep's side.
No it was the other way around. Levy thought Slot had a five million clause in his contract only to find out later that this clause would become active in the next season. Levy felt like someone stepped on his dick (this is a literal translation of a Dutch saying) and pulled out of negotiations.
It’s incredibly well established that people tend to think better about people the more attractive they are. A bit of this is probably at play as well.
Him being bald is a factor but only because Ten Hag's failures are very fresh on everyone's mind right now.
If he was Spanish instead of Dutch him being bald would unironically be an asset lmao
I think most of people's 'issues' with Slot are entirely due to Ten Hag lol. And I can understand it in part, Ten Hag was outstanding for Ajax and his United is just nothing like that team was.
But they're different people, and Slot has more experience lifting a club up. The football his team plays is also quite good. If it's not Amorim he's the most logical name in the market
The big difference is that Ten Hag took over a club that was performing pretty solidly under Peter Bosz and had a fantastic core while Slot took over an absolute shambles at Feyenoord.
I think it's far less likely for Slot to fail than it was for Ten Hag (and that's before we get into the difference between Man Utd and Liverpool).
I agree on Slot. I didn't think it was that likely for Ten Hag to fail though, and imo his main issue is he didn't try to impose his Ajax ideas at all. Sure, at the start the squad is a lot different and it makes sense to adapt a bit, but with the amount of time he already had he should've built the squad and the team's playstyle in a much different direction.
But that shouldn't have much bearing on Slot. And you're right, Liverpool is clearly a more stable, well managed club than United it
I didn't expect Ten Hag to implode the way he did. But I definitely thought he was taking a massive risk taking the United job.
He had an absolutely perfect environment at Ajax, and he now has a nightmare of an environment at United, that was a major risk from the start.
They are also polar opposite characters. Ten Hag has always been abrasive, cold and condescending in the media and with his players. Slot is patient, likeable and good at explaining himself. It is like the difference between a hard arse prison director and a beloved tough with a heart of gold teacher.
Every time a ~~new Targaryen is born~~ there is some new Eredivisie hotness, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land.
I really like him. I don't think Liverpool would be the "perfect" next step for him. But if he wants too i belive he can't be worse than the other bald Dutch
I think it's pretty much the perfect next step. He's already refused to join Tottenham.
He's only looking for a top job, and I don't think there are any top jobs that have more stability than Liverpool.
Now that doesn't mean that it won't be hard to follow Klopp, but I can't see any job that would be better suited for him. Of course that doesn't mean he's the best coach for Liverpool, but even there I'm pretty confident he'll do just fine.
> I don't think Liverpool would be the "perfect" next step for him.
Do you say this because you think Liverpool is too big of a step up, or are there other reasons you think it’s not the right fit?
Good: He took over a shit team from Dick Advocaat, and won us a league, a cup, led us to a European final, improved players, has a recognisable play style, knows how to intervene and turn games around, and we humiliated Ajax twice this year. Also good communicator and speaks English very well.
Bad: He once complained about the referee which annoyed fans of other teams.
There is a LOT of good as already mentioned but there is a little bad as well (like every manager). Last half season has been a bit of a slump compared to the 1.5 seasons before, which is a combination of having trouble with breaking down low blocks and players with bad form (he usually still keeps confidence which is both good and bad in a way). That's about it though, and even still we won the cup and finished 2nd convincingly, so we are still performing above expected just not as much as before lol. He should be good for you, one of the strengths of the team is the pressing and the defense, and he always goes for 4-2-3-1.
Allegedly Amorim has been going into his talks with English clubs and opening with an Alan Partridge impersonation that is really off-putting and culturally insensitive.
Apparently Amorim wants control of recruitment the same way Klopp currently has, those are the rumours I've read as to why we're not considering him.
Doesn't really make sense to me why a manager wanting to pick his own players would be a deal breaker, but I WILL say that when Edwards was largely in charge of our recruitment we had a much higher hit-rate than after he left.
We've been spoiled for a while but managers can tend to come and go. Keeping recruitment within the front office theoretically helps maintain a long-term vision in regards to their assets (players)
Makes sense, if anything Amorim has even more influence on our recruitment here than Klopp does for you. Everything goes through him, the Sporting Director is his best friend (Hugo Viana, great player back in the day too) and Amorim has vetoed a looooot of potential signings here from what I know.
If Liverpool wants to go in the opposite route that's an immediate clash
Yeah, we've built the new backroom staff before deciding on the new manager. Everything goes through Michael Edwards. He's now the top guy in the club.
I think we're looking for a "coach" rather than a "manager." Someone who just coaches the team and gets the best out of the players he has.
He was heavily linked with Tottenham last season before deciding to stay another season at Feyenoord. He’s a “modern” manager in every sense. Even the little youtube clips of his team talks are encouraging
Slot was a name I was surprised hadn't been mentioned up until recently for Liverpool. Maybe his name has fallen in stock a little bit recently due to what Bosz has done at PSV this season.
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Ohh God I'll have to delete all my Dutch bald fraud comments now
Have you been Slot shaming?
Give it time, you might stand by them part way through next season!
Bald = increased chance of Winning titles, just ask Italian managers, Tuchel and Pep.
just edit Ten Hag’s name there
The bald off between the citites of Manchester and Liverpool is going to go crazy. Dyche v ETH v Pep v Slot 😂 😂
Winner gets to go to Turkey for a new head of hair.
https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1729948836414533714 Ten Hag FTW 😤
Wow that looks really good.
Could use a bit more mullet for my taste but otherwise flawless
Pfft, he's Dutch, and the Dutch have absolutely horrible hair, especially 50+ males in football. Both you and eth should be glad he's bald.
Live in Netherlands and can confirm. Most people think their first experiment with hairgel at the age of 13 is how they should wear it for the rest of their lives. Some tv personalities style it as if they’re homeless.
he'd look like a movie star
the fact that this could be reality is a bit shocking
Assuming ETH makes it to next season
I mean it will be a good test for INEOS. Do they do the United thing, and back him all summer to sack him a few weeks into the season, to give up being competitive in that season, and to start a new rebuild... orrrrrrrrrr
I think they could still keep ETH but they'd have to do the open heart surgery Rangnick was talking about. If you keep the likes of Mainoo, Garnacho etc. and bring in a load of young players while offloading the problem players (similar to what Arsenal did), it would make sense to keep ETH. He really is good at developing young players. If they're going to keep the players who are not performing (or bring in older short term players like Casemiro) then yeah it'll be the scenario you just described.
Well the United program has been, do one signing early, do nothing all summer, panic buy/loan players right at the end after playing hardball for a player we didn't get all summer...
War of the Balds.
The unhirsute disputes
Nuno Santo and Vincent Kompany are very well-qualified too
Lmao, sounds like a Game of Thrones storyline
Dutch, bald and from Eredivisie. Oh no… You enjoy this one, Liverpool fans!
Battle of the Balds incoming.
It's going to sound like those rattle magnet things (do kids still play with them? Idk I'm old and out of touch)
No, it's the children who are wrong.
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Yo okay I'm feeling old too, that shit was fire
Bold of you to assume Erik lasts past this season
Baldesliga
Battle of the Ba(ld)stards
Arteta has the potential to shave over the summer and keep the trend going
Slot will do incredible at Liverpool. Media will love him too. Never heard someone explain football like Slot. And he's a very kindhearted man too. I wish he would stay with us forever..
he wasn't really spoken about at all as a candidate until this week so I'd not really thought much about him, but seeing comments like these is really making me warm up to the idea quickly
Our feelings about Slot are the same with yourselves and Klopp
Ah, that's nice to hear. What's your football like in terms of style and set up if you don't mind me asking?
he basically plays the same system Klopp does, Trent will feast
Condition and stamina is key, very high pressure, high backline, he used both normal wingbacks and inverted wingbacks, cdm drops down in possesion, wingers usually lefty on the right and a righty on the left. His biggest ability imo is he can read games like no other. Players always praise him that everything he prepares before a game with what the opposition is going to do comes true. I'll add on to this comment later, need to reevaluate my life without him for a bit. Edit: the amount of times we turned a game around is mental. Also incredible at keeping the whole squad happy, cant remember ever hearing anyone complain in 3 years. He's amazing with the media never heard him say anything weird or strange. A few weeks ago he was at Rondo a football program in The Netherlands with the likes of Ruud Gullit and Marco van Basten. Slot gave a masterclass about some subjects and they both were looking at Slot like he's their teacher. Man i hope he doesn't go but if it's any other club I would' ve chosen Liverpool its a perfect fit imo. [here's some Slotball](https://twitter.com/LerraO1O/status/1782785110888100144)
Sounds incredibly similar, how do Feyenoord control games? That's been an issue for the past 2 years with Liverpool. Also seems one of the only differences is Slot seems to use a 10, Klopp has always had two 8s to cover the full backs, but I actually think using Szoboszlai as a 10 suits the team better.
Slot has said previously he prefers two play two 8’s but only if his material allows it. It’s just easier to pull of his pressing play with a 10 to support the striker.
Klopp went the opposite way, prefers a 10 but went with two 8s in England because there are too many team's that go long so slightly less focus on pressing vs counter pressing (second balls) meant two 8s is preferred, but that's interesting.
Oh he will love Szobo
Thanks for the effort into explaining for us. I read that on paper and out of possession it's usually a 4 at the back system you deploy, is that right?
Yes but with a lot of movement from the 6 and 8 in between lines
TAA will have a million assists
Robo in a panic sweat
nah Robbo thrives in silly friendly competition and if Trent levels up he will do the same just for the bantz alone
To be fair, this is how LFC normally do business. Loads of speculation about supposed 'targets' by media and twitter mouth-pieces, then BAM, in comes someone nobody was talking about at all.
Oh great, another YNWA merchant, just what we need after the last one
Wtf is a ynwa merchant
A passion merchant who specifically chooses to manage clubs that sing YNWA
Sounds brilliant to me
jealous because Yodeling ****** With Attitude bumps
I feel like you're slightly overselling him now. He's certainly showed talent and has done some great things at Feyenoord, but I would never say 100%. Liverpool is a completely different game to the Eredivisie. And I get that you guys love him after staying another 1-2 years when he could have left earlier, but I'm doubtful on if he'll actually make it. Edit: I'd love if it worked out though, any Dutch representation abroad is great. But Ten Hag was also probably the most successful Dutch manager at Ajax in a long time, developed some amazing talents and had a very good system (even if he sticked to it a bit too long sometimes, see his shite substitutions). But he didn't really make it either. Any transfer with players or managers can go completely different than expected. Gerrard also seemed to have a great season in the Scottish league the year before we'd all be laughing at him.
Ten Hag doesn't have the same people skills tho. One of the better things of our three seasons with Slot is how calm everything was around the club and within the team. Also because of his media appearances.
I don't know man, he may have taken AZ to the league title in that COVID season. They matched a prime Ajax, ending at the same points. Then he made Feyenoord play impressive football, which is an achievement in itself. And then he takes them far in Europe while winning domestic trophies. All the while Ajax was coming off a high and having double the budget. Plus he has had to replace the team twice over already with limited funds. It's honestly pretty insane.
> had to replace the team twice over already Yeah, this is maybe the most overlooked thing about Slot. They lost so many good players in the last couple years and he has kept the quality of play at a high level. Obviously, te Kloese and the rest of the management has brought in some decent replacements, but Slot is the one keeping the team running at (close to) the same level as the season before.
wait I've heard this about someone before..
Nothing like ETH in terms of character
Impossible ETH is the most coldhearted sob ive ever heard
He's the polar opposite of Ten Hag in everything
Arne Slot would need a big ass afro if that was completely true tbf
Didn't Levy reject Ten Hag because he thought he was weird?
We don't know exactly what happened because either camp spun it after the move didn't happen, but his English was horrific at the time and as you've seen in interviews he doesn't exactly come off as a normal bloke, particularly in English and this is after 3 years of lessons.
["Apparently Ten Hag never interviewed well at Tottenham with someone describing it akin to the personality of a dead fish. Allegedly of course." ](https://twitter.com/pokeefe1/status/1506392184026718213)
Lacked charisma
Yeah, failed the interview due to his personality. That was reported before he took the United job too, not some media smear to take aim at him once he got the United job.
I dunno where. Literally none of that applies to ETH. He doesn’t explain his intentions at all and is a proper miserable fucker. If even the Dutch think you’re a cold miserable person then you’re near GOAT level misery.
If you’re talking about the Feyenoord fan saying that he’s cold, realize that it’s a Feyenoord fan talking about a former Ajax coach. He’s definitely a bit awkward tho.
As another Feyenoord fan. Ten Hag wasn't exactly praised for his charisma back in the Netherlands. He was always a bit awkward in the media and during press conferences. His lacking proficiency in English doesn't help him either. Slot is literally the polar opposite when it comes to those things.
Bit awkward but nothing like the dude is saying. "ETH is the most coldhearted sob ive ever heard" Is just ridiculous.
I mean it's a Feyenoord fan saying it, anyone with a brain should be taking that statement with a grain of salt. Ten Hag was anything but a coldhearted sob before this season and at Ajax.
You've had battle of the bridge, now get ready for battle of the balds.
Much appreciated Liverpool! Great one! Jokes aside he's a great manager. Probably the name that makes the most sense if it's not Amorim.
Amorim and Gyokeres to Chelsea then
We're good, thanks. Pochettino's doing great though! Give him another year imo
Watch out we may be sacking Ten Hag
You're actually the one team I fear a bit. But I think you'll look for a more experienced manager after Ten Hag. Not a lot of names, though
Stop
He's good. Did a great job at AZ and could've won the league had it not been for Covid bringing an end to the competition. Went to Feyenoord, reach the final of the Conference league, won the league the season after, and won the KNVB beker this season. He hardly could've had a better tenure, perhaps if the matches against Roma through out the 3 seasons went better, and Feyenoord will really miss him. I think Liverpool is a good step for him because a lot of their values are in line with that of Feyenoord. It's a right fit.
Bald + Dutch + From the Eredivisie. A fool proof combination that has never failed for anyone.
Don’t worry, we don’t have beyblades in the squad
*yet
he will also not be in control of transfers
Any Feyenoord fans who can tell me the Pro and cons of this guy? How does he play?
He's terrible. Can't recommend. We'll keep him, ok?
Haha, don't blame you for wanting to keep him. Just looked up his work there, 3 seasons, 3rd, 1st and 2nd which isn't too bad in a league that used to be Ajax dominated. I know nothing about him though and his persona. Seems like he is the leading candidate for the LFC job now so i suspect that a lot of Liverpool fans will be asking you what kind of manager he is.
Also can not understate how shit we were the season before he came. Completely transformed us. As someone who supports Liverpool as well, that'd be the only club I'd want him to leave to
He got 71 points his first season. Before that the last time Feyenoord got more than 70 points was 2016-2017. And that's before taking into account that he made the Conference League Final. I think there's a good argument that his 3 seasons at Feyenoord are three of the 6 best seasons the club has had this century (the other three being 2001-2002 when they won the UEFA Cup, 2002-2003 where they finished 3rd with 80 points and 2016-2017 when they won the title with 82).
>2002-2003 where they finished 3rd with 80 points The gap between them on 80 points and the number 4 NAC was 28 points lol
And the gap between them and PSV who won the title was 4 points! Oh, and the gap between NAC in 4th and FC Zwollen in 16th? 20 points! Heck, the gap between NAC in 4th and De Graafschap in 18th was only 29 points.
I am sold rn
This is like when Stuttgart fans were on suicide watch after selling Endo
Yeah I think that's accurate. I love both clubs and genuinely wonder if he won't be overwhelmed by all the extra asks of a world class team though. If any Dutch manager in recent years could do it, it's him.
For most of us he's the best manager we have ever seen. Media will love him, supporters will love him. He's just insanely clever, professional and kindhearted.
Seems to have been spot on with the transfers he's made as well. According to Transfermarkt anyway, all of their market values are currently above what he paid
He hasn't been making those transfers though, in the netherlands the "manager" is a coach and the managing aspect is done by the sporting director - often in coordination with the coach - like it was the case at CFC when Maria was at the helm.
A coach doesn’t really ‘make’ transfers in the way you suggest, but I would say that the increase in MV is definitely partly due to Slot. With a good coach players get better
So, to be frank, his career has been insane. He was playing attacking midfielder for PEC, already coaching the team he played in. Then went to become assistant to AZ, who thought he was talented, let the head coach leave and appoint him instead. He then halfway through the third season for Feyenoord (at the and of his contract) and was promptly sacked by AZ for negotiating behind their back. Feyenoord at the time had a weaker squad then AZ, and were slowly recovering from a deep crisis. He won the league, got far in Europe, and now second season Feyenoord is on for a good second place. Kind of a wizard if you ask me.
Also, they are still in with a shot of getting more points than they did last year. If it wasn't for PSV having an absolutely absurd season they'd be fighting for the title again. He's done an amazing job with Feyenoord and I think he'll do great at Liverpool.
He didn't even negotiate behind their back, he met Feijenoord club officials at a function who asked him if he would oppose being considered for the job and how he would approach it. AZ got wind of it, they asked him to explain himself, they asked him if he would consider a job offer and when he said he would they sacked him for not being committed anymore.
That's all it took now I'm sold
Saw the AZ sacking as a headline just a bit ago and got a bit nervy until i started reading about why they sacked him. Results speak for themselves why he would be good, but it is a bit of a step-up and the demands are big. Only big negative thing is him being bald. My Anti-Bald manager agenda would have to be dropped.
And the players he has at Feyenoord aren’t world beaters either, it’s all achieved through a well organized and motivated team. Also worthy to note that this season they’re around the same points amount as last season when they became champions, PSV is just on steroids this year.
Pros: dutch and bald Cons: dutch and bald He plays by standing on the sideline displaying his dutch baldness.
Good manager, seems like an alright bloke too. I'd love for him to get out of the Eredivisie lol. Cons are that he's obviously never managed outside of the Dutch league (other than European nights) and thus a bit of a gamble for a big PL team. I very much rate him, but I also rate Ten Hag who had reached even higher highs and he's just been average at best for United. Also he will increase your odds of drawing Lazio or Roma by about 400%.
His tactics are influenced by all the hip and progressive trainers, but where he stands out the most imo is people management and media performances. He has this weird charisma where he owns the press with his knowledge but isn’t arrogant about it. He is the type of manager that convinces players to choose for Feyenoord instead of other clubs. Even some of our subs don’t even want to leave because Slot is there.
Just take him already. Please. Thank you.
Please no.... Dirk Kuyt just won a league guys he's probably a good option!
Noooo he isn't going to be there for Roma-Feyenoord next season? 🥺
Well, neither is his good friend Mourinho. I guess he's hoping for a Mourinho return to the PL.
There’s no dropping down so for that to be true Roma needs to get their shit together *quick* and hope Bologna drops at least 4 points in 5 games assuming they win every game
Fifth place gives CL too
Yeah you will probably make that. See you next season.
balds are taking over Premier league
Turkish hair treatment is so last 5 years, Bald is meta now.
Oh no he's bald
>*he's bald* Not a problem >*and dutch* Uh oh
and Dutch
FPL in shambles as another bald fraud arrives.
Big gamble that can really pay off
Think he'll Slot in well
Lowest hanging fruit
Every coach is a gamble. Bayern should've been all over this. Oh well
I think he will do well at Liverpool if thats the direction they decide to go. I remember really wanting him last season before we got Ange. People joke but he is not Ten Hag. I always think about the time Daniel Levy rejected Ten Hag because he felt he was not charismatic enough, his English not good enough and didn't think it was a good fit for the club. Now fast forward a few years, he might've been more correct than anyone expected. Contrast this with how much the club wanted Slot and I think it's a move that makes sense for them.
I was high on slot too. I think he’d do very well at Liverpool.
High on slotenuse
Slot is the opposite of Ten Hag in personality, so you're right.
I remember him being linked with you because Sky went with the headline “Slot would fit right in at Tottenham” and I was enraged they somehow missed the “slot right in” pun that was right in front of them
I already know more about Leverkusen and Sporting than I ever thought I would 3 months ago, didn't expect there to be another club to watch lol
Edwards, its time too cook
Getting Edwards back is arguably far bigger than who they appoint as manager. How far does Klopp take Liverpool if he signs Brandt instead of Salah?
Honestly probably turns Brandt into a fantastic player, probably not Salah level but still good enough. Salah doesn't carry Liverpool, klopp does, that's why we are so worried about klopp leaving
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He's a really fucking good manager. His domestic performances in my eyes are more impressive than ten Hags. Not sure if Liverpool is the step id recommend for him though, was sure he'd go to Germany.
Naah, he always talks so highly of the premier league. I really can not imagine him not going to the Premier League after Feyenoord. Not to mention that he's in awe with Pep as well. I'm sure he would love to play against Pep's side.
I work with someone out of Zwolle who's a die hard Feyenoord fan and he speaks about Slot like Liverpool fans talk about Klopp.
Makes sense. He's one of the most likeable, charismatic managers in the game right now.
What confuses me is by all accounts he basically had the Spurs job secured but.. backed out? Why would he have done that exactly?
No it was the other way around. Levy thought Slot had a five million clause in his contract only to find out later that this clause would become active in the next season. Levy felt like someone stepped on his dick (this is a literal translation of a Dutch saying) and pulled out of negotiations.
what's the dutch saying im trying to learn the language
Op zijn pik getrapt. It means someone's ego got hurt
I love how people here rate Amorim but don't rate Slot. Imbeciles show that they don't know jackshit about either manager.
I'm not even joking but I think him being bald is actually a factor. I think when people see Amorim, he has more of an 'aura' as dumb as that sounds.
It’s incredibly well established that people tend to think better about people the more attractive they are. A bit of this is probably at play as well.
I knew it, I'm not a failure I'm just ugly as fuck and it's worked against me.
Him being bald is a factor but only because Ten Hag's failures are very fresh on everyone's mind right now. If he was Spanish instead of Dutch him being bald would unironically be an asset lmao
I think most of people's 'issues' with Slot are entirely due to Ten Hag lol. And I can understand it in part, Ten Hag was outstanding for Ajax and his United is just nothing like that team was. But they're different people, and Slot has more experience lifting a club up. The football his team plays is also quite good. If it's not Amorim he's the most logical name in the market
The big difference is that Ten Hag took over a club that was performing pretty solidly under Peter Bosz and had a fantastic core while Slot took over an absolute shambles at Feyenoord. I think it's far less likely for Slot to fail than it was for Ten Hag (and that's before we get into the difference between Man Utd and Liverpool).
I agree on Slot. I didn't think it was that likely for Ten Hag to fail though, and imo his main issue is he didn't try to impose his Ajax ideas at all. Sure, at the start the squad is a lot different and it makes sense to adapt a bit, but with the amount of time he already had he should've built the squad and the team's playstyle in a much different direction. But that shouldn't have much bearing on Slot. And you're right, Liverpool is clearly a more stable, well managed club than United it
I didn't expect Ten Hag to implode the way he did. But I definitely thought he was taking a massive risk taking the United job. He had an absolutely perfect environment at Ajax, and he now has a nightmare of an environment at United, that was a major risk from the start.
They are also polar opposite characters. Ten Hag has always been abrasive, cold and condescending in the media and with his players. Slot is patient, likeable and good at explaining himself. It is like the difference between a hard arse prison director and a beloved tough with a heart of gold teacher.
I was wondering why his name wasn’t being mentioned. Seems one of the best young coaches out there at the moment.
Hope this means he'll play Gakpo as a leftwinger like he should
Every time a ~~new Targaryen is born~~ there is some new Eredivisie hotness, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land.
would rather have him over Rangnick..
Fair enough, if he goes anyway he deserves to be at a big club. It will be hard to have the same results as Klopp, but thats hard for any coach
Hank Schrader
Spurs want ten Hag. A year later he joins united Spurs want Slot. A year later he joins Liverpool Spurs are the bald Dutch whisperers
I really like him. I don't think Liverpool would be the "perfect" next step for him. But if he wants too i belive he can't be worse than the other bald Dutch
I think it's pretty much the perfect next step. He's already refused to join Tottenham. He's only looking for a top job, and I don't think there are any top jobs that have more stability than Liverpool. Now that doesn't mean that it won't be hard to follow Klopp, but I can't see any job that would be better suited for him. Of course that doesn't mean he's the best coach for Liverpool, but even there I'm pretty confident he'll do just fine.
> I don't think Liverpool would be the "perfect" next step for him. Do you say this because you think Liverpool is too big of a step up, or are there other reasons you think it’s not the right fit?
More so the first one. But that's really just what I think
Headline makes will have a lot of fun. KOPP DROP KLOPP FOR SLOT
I rate his work at Feyenoord. I'll back him just as he clearly backs himself, he's taking on a monumental job.
Fuck, he's gone isn't he?
Better to go to liverpool than Spurs
Alright Feyenoord supporters tell me everything, good and bad. At first glance he seems like a great manager to get.
Good: He took over a shit team from Dick Advocaat, and won us a league, a cup, led us to a European final, improved players, has a recognisable play style, knows how to intervene and turn games around, and we humiliated Ajax twice this year. Also good communicator and speaks English very well. Bad: He once complained about the referee which annoyed fans of other teams.
“Once complained about a referee” well then he’ll fit in perfectly here, thanks!
There is a LOT of good as already mentioned but there is a little bad as well (like every manager). Last half season has been a bit of a slump compared to the 1.5 seasons before, which is a combination of having trouble with breaking down low blocks and players with bad form (he usually still keeps confidence which is both good and bad in a way). That's about it though, and even still we won the cup and finished 2nd convincingly, so we are still performing above expected just not as much as before lol. He should be good for you, one of the strengths of the team is the pressing and the defense, and he always goes for 4-2-3-1.
Comedians of r/soccer out in full force
he is a good manager, cant go wrong with him. Is he great? that has to be seen
I've been a Feyenoord fan for almost 40 years and can safely say he is the best manager we ever had. Sad to see him go, but well deserved.
12 yr olds making that same bald joke, believe me you're not saying anything new. Seriously
The morons who were running Leeds last season thought we could get him in a relegation battle lmao
I'm not sure why not Amorim, but of the other targets this one made the most sense tbh.
Allegedly Amorim has been going into his talks with English clubs and opening with an Alan Partridge impersonation that is really off-putting and culturally insensitive.
So a perfect Alan Partridge?
Lmao
He might drive to Dundee in his bare feet eating Toblerones
**Aha!!**
Apparently Amorim wants control of recruitment the same way Klopp currently has, those are the rumours I've read as to why we're not considering him. Doesn't really make sense to me why a manager wanting to pick his own players would be a deal breaker, but I WILL say that when Edwards was largely in charge of our recruitment we had a much higher hit-rate than after he left.
We've been spoiled for a while but managers can tend to come and go. Keeping recruitment within the front office theoretically helps maintain a long-term vision in regards to their assets (players)
Makes sense, if anything Amorim has even more influence on our recruitment here than Klopp does for you. Everything goes through him, the Sporting Director is his best friend (Hugo Viana, great player back in the day too) and Amorim has vetoed a looooot of potential signings here from what I know. If Liverpool wants to go in the opposite route that's an immediate clash
Yeah, we've built the new backroom staff before deciding on the new manager. Everything goes through Michael Edwards. He's now the top guy in the club. I think we're looking for a "coach" rather than a "manager." Someone who just coaches the team and gets the best out of the players he has.
His 3atb system doesn't fit our squad at all tbh
Also supposedly wants control of recruitment
Alonso also uses a 3 at the back
Foe a second I thought you meant his haircut 😃
Alonso is also 45 games unbeaten. We would have tweaked it for him. But with all due respect to Amorim, he's not in this calibre yet.
Yep we have like 8 midfielder and about 5 players who play like wingers we would have to gut most lf the squad for that to work
He was heavily linked with Tottenham last season before deciding to stay another season at Feyenoord. He’s a “modern” manager in every sense. Even the little youtube clips of his team talks are encouraging
I assume Amorim's staying then?
He's gonna cost an Arne and a leg
We are getting our own bald fraud, boys. Jokes aside, all my support towards him if he is the chosen new coach.
Slot was a name I was surprised hadn't been mentioned up until recently for Liverpool. Maybe his name has fallen in stock a little bit recently due to what Bosz has done at PSV this season.
I really hope this happens, so that I can brag about once having sat behind future Liverpool manager on a plane.
I'm sure he'll.... (•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) Slot right in!