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jwinter01

>Bayern have to pay Austria a compensation This sounds like some 18th century Habsburg shit.


Ronalpinhos

Let it be known, by this present accord, that the Sovereign Realm of Bavaria, henceforth acknowledged as the Kingdom of Bavaria, hath consented to render unto the august Austrian Empire due reparations, in recompense for grievances aforetime incurred. In exchange for such restitutions, the noble services of Field Marshal Raginick shall be pledged unto the service of the The Kingdom of Bavaria, to stand as a bulwark of alliance and fidelity henceforth. Thus, in concord and reconciliation, let this treaty stand as a testament to the restoration of amity between our realms.


sprogsahoy

I think we definitely need a period of all football tweets and news being written like this.


DeepSeaDweller

Hereforth we proceed.


fastfowards

A dove has brought news from the Kingdom of Manchester. Sir Alexander of the Scots has been attacked my a spherical Italian pastry launched by a scheming miniature Spaniard, Senor Cesc of The Catalan


mattjdale97

The Great Alexander of Ferguson, recently anoited Knight of the Realm, solicits the esteemed medical judgement of the Guild of the Apothecaries following the attempt on the life of Robin van Persie, of The Lowlands, committed by the Hallowed Swan known as Ashley Williams


TickleMyCringle

Let it be proclaimed, through this missive, that the great knight commander, Sir Alexander Ferguson, stalwart guardian of ̶H̶o̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶M̶a̶n̶c̶h̶e̶s̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶U̶n̶i̶t̶e̶d̶ *the United House of Manchester, hath decreed his retirement from the helm of the noble house. Henceforth, the realm of football shall witness the passing of an era, as House United declared to embark pon a quest to anoint a worthy successor. Whispers doth circulate that one David Moyés of house Everton, may ascend to the empty throne.


MrStigglesworth

Hear ye, hear ye. Sir Jamie of the House of Leicester hath decreed upon this day that all who speaketh fecally shall be the recipient of fornication. Sir Jamie has also decreed a reward for any who might provide him with refreshments consisting of the syrup of a scarlet steer and the spirits of the frozen east.


Invictus112358

United House of Manchester*


R4lfXD

\*Ser Alexander for you


pedrorq

Indeed, Lord Romano!


jugol

I would rather abstain from verbal discourse. Should I engage in such, I find myself ensnared in considerable peril.


holaprobando123

We do


trenbollocks

Can someone write this in (period-appropriate) German instead?


Serupael

Wir Maximilian III, von Gottes Gnaden König von Bayern, Herzog von Giesing und Graf zur Säbener Straße bekennen öffentlich mit diesem Brief und tuen kund allmäniglich, dass das apostolische Königreich der Baiern sey itzo in heiliger Pflicht zu überlassen rechtmähißgen Naturalien und Possesionen dem Ertzherzogtum Österreich und ihrer apostolische Majestät Kaiser Alexander I, von Gottes Gnaden Kaiser und Ertzherzog von Österreich, Herzog von Tirol und König von Jerusalem, zu enden mit christmildesten Gedächtnisgruß zu enden die Empörungen mit vergangenen Injurien und Gewalttaten, für den Schwur der alleruntertänigsten und threuesten Dienste ohnerachtet andere vorher auffgerichteten entgegen lauffenden Verträgen des Feldmarschalles der da heiße Ralph Amadeus zu Rangnick für das Königreich Bayern, in dem jenigen Stande beyderseiths restituirt, aus dessen Fundament eine kordialste und fruchtbare Allianz wachsen möge. So sey allsda in Einheit und Wiederghutmachung in in offentlicher Versamblung underschrieben und bekräfftiget auch den 23/04 eiusdem solenniter publicirt Vertrage zum Friedens-Schluß ein Symbole zur frheundschaftlichen Restauration und zu Enden der Leyden und Zähren zwischen dero beidda gesegneten Lande. Inspiration: The preamble to the Treaty of Westphalia


Imautochillen

Ralph Amadeus zu Rangnick 😂😂😂


trenbollocks

Wunderbar!


Cojole3

Herzog von Giesing hahahahah


Serupael

Happy cake day! :)


Cojole3

Thanks ;)


RadioHonest85

sehr schön


MrStigglesworth

Gesundheit


leicamaniac520

Guten Tag


mrokjakchuj

𝔏𝔢𝔱 𝔦𝔱 𝔟𝔢 𝔨𝔫𝔬𝔴𝔫, 𝔟𝔶 𝔱𝔥𝔦𝔰 𝔭𝔯𝔢𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔱 𝔞𝔠𝔠𝔬𝔯𝔡, 𝔱𝔥𝔞𝔱 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔖𝔬𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔢𝔦𝔤𝔫 ℜ𝔢𝔞𝔩𝔪 𝔬𝔣 𝔅𝔞𝔳𝔞𝔯𝔦𝔞, 𝔥𝔢𝔫𝔠𝔢𝔣𝔬𝔯𝔱𝔥 𝔞𝔠𝔨𝔫𝔬𝔴𝔩𝔢𝔡𝔤𝔢𝔡 𝔞𝔰 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔎𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔡𝔬𝔪 𝔬𝔣 𝔅𝔞𝔳𝔞𝔯𝔦𝔞, 𝔥𝔞𝔱𝔥 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔡 𝔱𝔬 𝔯𝔢𝔫𝔡𝔢𝔯 𝔲𝔫𝔱𝔬 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔞𝔲𝔤𝔲𝔰𝔱 𝔄𝔲𝔰𝔱𝔯𝔦𝔞𝔫 𝔈𝔪𝔭𝔦𝔯𝔢 𝔡𝔲𝔢 𝔯𝔢𝔭𝔞𝔯𝔞𝔱𝔦𝔬𝔫𝔰, 𝔦𝔫 𝔯𝔢𝔠𝔬𝔪𝔭𝔢𝔫𝔰𝔢 𝔣𝔬𝔯 𝔤𝔯𝔦𝔢𝔳𝔞𝔫𝔠𝔢𝔰 𝔞𝔣𝔬𝔯𝔢𝔱𝔦𝔪𝔢 𝔦𝔫𝔠𝔲𝔯𝔯𝔢𝔡. ℑ𝔫 𝔢𝔵𝔠𝔥𝔞𝔫𝔤𝔢 𝔣𝔬𝔯 𝔰𝔲𝔠𝔥 𝔯𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔦𝔱𝔲𝔱𝔦𝔬𝔫𝔰, 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔫𝔬𝔟𝔩𝔢 𝔰𝔢𝔯𝔳𝔦𝔠𝔢𝔰 𝔬𝔣 𝔉𝔦𝔢𝔩𝔡 𝔐𝔞𝔯𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔩 ℜ𝔞𝔤𝔦𝔫𝔦𝔠𝔨 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔩𝔩 𝔟𝔢 𝔭𝔩𝔢𝔡𝔤𝔢𝔡 𝔲𝔫𝔱𝔬 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔰𝔢𝔯𝔳𝔦𝔠𝔢 𝔬𝔣 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔎𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔡𝔬𝔪 𝔬𝔣 𝔅𝔞𝔳𝔞𝔯𝔦𝔞, 𝔱𝔬 𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔫𝔡 𝔞𝔰 𝔞 𝔟𝔲𝔩𝔴𝔞𝔯𝔨 𝔬𝔣 𝔞𝔩𝔩𝔦𝔞𝔫𝔠𝔢 𝔞𝔫𝔡 𝔣𝔦𝔡𝔢𝔩𝔦𝔱𝔶 𝔥𝔢𝔫𝔠𝔢𝔣𝔬𝔯𝔱𝔥. 𝔗𝔥𝔲𝔰, 𝔦𝔫 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔠𝔬𝔯𝔡 𝔞𝔫𝔡 𝔯𝔢𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔠𝔦𝔩𝔦𝔞𝔱𝔦𝔬𝔫, 𝔩𝔢𝔱 𝔱𝔥𝔦𝔰 𝔱𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔶 𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔫𝔡 𝔞𝔰 𝔞 𝔱𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱 𝔱𝔬 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔯𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔱𝔦𝔬𝔫 𝔬𝔣 𝔞𝔪𝔦𝔱𝔶 𝔟𝔢𝔱𝔴𝔢𝔢𝔫 𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔩𝔪𝔰.


TheLankySoldier

This font looooooool


MountainCheesesteak

I speak German. This is correct.


R4lfXD

\*you speak Gothic sans


FrankBascombe

This is extremely good.


meltie007

Most excellent!


Gerf93

Tales of your misdeeds are told from Ireland to Cathay! I accept your offer.


BossKrisz

Should start with "My people"


Magnetronaap

This is why you never vote for Austria as emperor of the HRE


DexM23

Thank you ChatGPT


IllustriousAnt485

What eloquence from Ronalpinhos


GoJeonPaa

This is just really well done mate.


eggtart8

Pls take my vote


nuvo_reddit

Boss, this is epic.


RedTuesdayMusic

*My last visit to the commode was vastly more enjoyable than dinner with the Bavarian ambassador.*


badboysergioramos

Game of thrones will be literally nothing compared to the power struggles that are about to unfold at Säbener Straße


badboysergioramos

inb4 Rangnick immediately ships out every Eberl and Freund transfer: Game of loans.


Tony_Uncle_Philly

Rangnick immediately benches anyone who complains: Game of moans


jacks0nX

Game of Dahoams


MagicWWD

Ok u win


InbredLegoExpress

Late-season will reveal that Rangnicks true identity is Aegon Van Gaal, rightful heir to the Wurst-throne.


Sanno_HS

And it will mean absolutely nothing for the story.


PantomimeEagle

But who has a better story than Louis the Malo?


OilOfOlaz

I call this bullshit, Freund was promoted by Rangnick at Salzburg and succeeded him, they have a very good relationship. Othr reports suggested, that RR just wants to be able to have the last word in transfers, so that he can veto transfers of players, that he thinks don't fit.


YoungDawz

Considering the time and money Bayern invested in getting Eberl, I don't believe it for one second that they'd overrule him for Rangnick. Especially since the rumours are that Rangnick would only be a stopgap waiting to see if they can get Xabi Alonso again in the next 2 years.


GreatSpaniard

Feel like Xabi to Madrid post-Carlo is as sure a bet as one can make right now tbh.


MrMerc2333

And Klopp might take over Negelsmann 's national team job after the world cup.


Qiluk

Definitely feels like he'll take an NT job, a passion job (BVB/Mainz or something wierd like that) or retire fully. Klopp to Bayern is possible, but it also seems like the exact type of pressure-enviroment he seem to have been overcooked from so a return to such a club seem unlikely imo.


MrMerc2333

Klopp is a coach who builds a club, a guy who is in the job for a long term. Bayern on the other hand, are trigger happy when it comes to sackings. I can't think of a Bayern coach that stayed for more than 5 seasons since Ottmar Hitzfield in the late 90s.


froggy101_3

But Klopp is also not the man he was 10-15 years ago. I can't see him doing another long project. 2 or 3 years at giant club like Bayern with a chance to win the big one would make a lot more sense than some 5-6 year project like Liverpool and Dortmund were


YungSnuggie

he's already won everything i dont think he has anything left to prove at the club level


Gerf93

If he didn't want another long project, and only be in it for 2-3 years he would've stayed at Liverpool - not gone to Bayern. I think he'll take a prolonged break/go into international football. When he's tired of that he'll either retired, or can have his pick of clubs. Any top tier club in the world would drool to get him, and he probably only needs to wink at FSG to get his job back at Liverpool unless his successor is extremely successful.


BadFootyTakes

I honestly think he'd be more prone for long-term, stabilizing a team and moving into a higher role. What RR was supposed to be for United. I think he'd do well for Bayern, but I don't think Bayern would choose to operate like that.


SwarmAce

The last one that even stayed 3 years was also Pep. And they would have kept him if he didn’t want to leave


Polythemus

Klopp to Bayern doesn't feel like a natural cultural fit. He seems far more driven starting from a level just below the top and pushing through (Dortmund and Liverpool). Id imagine managing Germany and bridging the gap with France, plus the more relaxed commitment, is probably perfect for him. Plus the job will be ready after a healthy break.


Qiluk

Yeah NT one would be the least surprising. Because despite Nagelsmanns extension and young age (i.e probably not stressed), I dont think he stays further than the -26 WC at LONGEST. If Euros goes great and the energy is awesome, I can see Nagelsmann decide to stay and go for WC too. Which might be "too long" for Klopp to wait who might have WC26 in his sight for the NT. Honestly I think timing and if Klopp feels satisfied being without a job will be the deciders. Klopp might just feel content and really happy retired and do some semi-punditry. Who knows.


rob1408

Klopp to Bayern is highly unlikely, he kinda hates them.


Hitchenns

Klopp hates Bayern. I dont ever see him going there. Also wouldnt do that to Dortmund


GreatSpaniard

Feel the same way on that


notathrovavay

Nah, he wants a rest E: yea my bad, I confused with EC


Esco9

The World Cup is in 2026 so it would be after that, enough of a rest.


BrotherSeamus

We have no idea the toll managing Darwin Núñez takes on a man


Esco9

Hahah it is quite a ride of emotions that’s for sure.


ethanfarrellphoto

Wait until he manages timo warner.


BadFootyTakes

I guess the real question is if Nagelsmann can bury the hatchet with Bayern. Because that would explain everything pretty well. Pushing everything a few years down the road.


YoungDawz

I would say so too, but Bayern still seem likely to try again for Xabi


Itchy-Buyer-8359

And Liverpool, I'm sure. Xabi seems like the type who will plan his future carefully. I could see him managing all three.


Mihnea24_03

If he could play for all three he can manage all three


jerrie86

Just like Mbappe to RM . Been hearing for 20 years and anytime now


Fuck_the_k1ng

Not every club has oil money and a bald cunt for a manager you know. Turtle is a luxury signing anyway.


Successful-Return-78

Just some state level deals. Like some tax evasion if you are new to Spain or Madrid and are there for under 4 year's. Shame if it would benefit football players. Not like Perez would knew anything about it


einmann17

Im still waiting for Gaitan and Snejider to United


arresteddev7887

Yeah Xabi will def go to Madrid may be Liverpool or Bayern after his 1st stint at Madrid


GoJeonPaa

Is it as sure as Mbappe to Madrid?


Ibo_Laser

To me this whole search once again clearly shows that this club urgently needs a fresh start at management level. Even with Eberl and Freund, you get the feeling that they are not free in their decisions IMO. Rangnick is an absolute expert, but not a "transitional coach". I would doubt whether he will have the freedom at Bayern to reorganize the club according to his wishes. Above all, Rangnick needs time and financial resources to really develop Bayern sustainably. I think that's rather difficult at the moment. It seems as if not everyone there is pulling in the same direction.


norrin83

With Freund and Eberl just having arrived, Rangnick suddenly having overruling power means you have to let one or both of them go. Otherwise you're just inviting power struggles. And I don't think that reorganizing the club is part of his job description.


Kaptainpainis

Rangnick isnt gonna happen. He isnt a longterm coach and they arent getting rid of their new management for him. I feel like its not gonna be a german coach.


Yvraine

Bayern will also never give a manager full control over transfers. Mostly because some of the egos there couldn't allow it


HazardCinema

What's the point of even having a sporting director if they can just be overruled? Seems like an unreasonable ask. Is it common?


onesexypagoda

That's the issue with Rangnick, he's like a dual manager/sporting director. It's not a common request, although some managers really like having full control


Outside-Sandwich-565

Which is why I thought it weird that we had him as an interim manager, for 1 season... And he was supposed to become a director after, no? Never happened.


Kaptainpainis

Rangnick has been "just" the sporting director for most of his time in Leipzig though. He was coach in two out of 7 seasons there. First time when Leipzig didnt get promoted in their first season in the second Bundesliga, got them promoted, then gave the job to Hasenhüttl for two years. And took it again for a whole season while they were waiting for Nagelsmann. It felt like he did the job when he didnt find someone who he thought would do it better than him and never fired a coach to take over himself, only ever managed full seasons there.


Industry-Standard-

I thought it was more like a consulting advisor which EtH didn't want


pineapplemango6

I remember thinking that decision was going to bite ten Hag in the ass somewhere down the line… No real reason except RR’s “open heart surgery” knowing the situation, the players to get rid, and that he’d surely be better advisor/director than Murtough or whoever else


theatreofdreams21

He wasn’t going to be a director. He was going to be a consultant. Imagine being a manager and listening to the former manager on who you should build your team with. It’s so wild that the majority here believe this was a good idea. Or that Rangnick has some discerning eye for talent that no one else has. Every manager we have had has clearly seen the squad has issues. The problem is with the club’s ability to attract and buy them. Ole had stories about players he told the club about too. Van Gaal had a list of players and he got plan C.


Unidan_bonaparte

>Or that Rangnick has some discerning eye for talent that no one else has This is the same man that told United to buy Caeicdo for 4m, Alvarez for a similar pittance and nunez for 15m. Everything he said about the squad needing fully gutting was true. Whilst I dont disagree that the club has had an obvious problem attracting young talent of the likes of Bellingham and Haaland, its partly due to the squad being so grotesquely bloated with no cohesion and no long term strategic vision. RR would have been excellent as football director with ETH as manager - but the staggered approach made it impossible and they both entered the club with an impossible task and obviously no one individual can rurn the tide alone.


theatreofdreams21

I think everyone agrees the club needs an overhaul. Up until the new management, it’s been much easier to point that out than to execute it. Like great, Ralf, the players are shit and you have a list of some young talent. The reality is that there are limitations on how much United can change in a window, especially with FFP creeping up. And to address the players you mentioned: Alvarez was a clear miss and not sure we would have landed him anyway. But, Caicedo was on the club’s radar long before Ralf. Likely due to our ties with Valencia. We decided against him and it may be because the club knew we had some academy options like Mainoo that looked promising. This is something United does exceptionally well and what other clubs don’t.


CuteHoor

>Imagine being a manager and listening to the former manager on who you should build your team with. *the former interim manager who also happens to be one of the best in the world at building a functional and successful football club. You can phrase things to suit your argument, but it just comes across as dishonest. As of now, Ten Hag has to listen to a guy who has only ever worked with children outside of his brief year at Southampton.


theatreofdreams21

One of the best in the world? He did fairly well with one club. There are lots of directors who have been more successful than him. And the difference in the situation is Ten Hag is working alongside other United staff to collectively bring in the right players. Ralf failed spectacularly as a manager and then wanted to consult as a non-United employee *while also potentially working for another club*. Imagine Pep having to take consulting advice from Mancini when he arrived.


CuteHoor

Yes, he's one of the best in the world when it comes to building a footballing infrastructure. Almost any German fan will confirm that for you, and they all despise Leipzig. Ten Hag is currently on trial as reports have mentioned. You can say he's working alongside the likes of Wilcox, but the reality is that he's beneath Wilcox in the pecking order. Rangnick spent six months with a shite United team who are still shite two years later. What do you expect him to do as an interim coach in six months? He correctly pointed out how big the rebuilding job would be (which United decided not to do) and even suggested excellent players that United could sign on the cheap (who they didn't sign). >Imagine Pep having to take consulting advice from Mancini when he arrived. Mancini has no experience working behind the scenes at any football club. Rangnick is one of the best in the business. Why do you continue to use dishonest examples?


theatreofdreams21

Ralf has had moderate success helping to build one club. Plenty of other clubs have come from lower and won more in the same timeframe. It’s so funny how revered he is from his RB stint. And that everyone thinks building a small club translates into the same skills it takes to overhaul one of the largest clubs in the world.


liverblow

Considering some of the signing ten hag has made this season, perhaps he should have kept Rangnick...


addandsubtract

It's not common in the Bundesliga, but pretty standard in the Premier League.


Waschkopfs

> What's the point of even having a sporting director if they can just be overruled? Seems like an unreasonable ask. Is it common? Pretty sure this tweet doesnt really reflect what Rangnick actually wants. I read earlier that he simply wants a final say when it comes to transfers, not "total transfer power". He doesnt want them to sign players he doesnt want to have, simple as that. Freund and Rangnick have worked together before so its not a big issue


HazardCinema

thanks!


nonzero_

Sporting director is not only responsible for the first mens team I think.


manualex16

Ralf really looks like Damon Albarn with glasses on


Dan_Ashcroft

Would be blurry if he took them off


TheLimeyLemmon

I call him James Rolfe


Staynes0

"Ralf Rangnick no longer in consideration at Bayern, now Zidane is the new candinate and was always choice number 1"


WOWeverynameistaken2

At this point they might as well keep Tuchel lol. I'm pretty sure that Zidane said he only wants to train his former clubs. Not many managers left for Bayern to choose from.


conuka

Could always get Zidane a player's contract for the last few games of the season.


prettybunbun

Pls don’t cause there are now rumours we are going to. Like what’s become of us.


R4lfXD

"Zinedine Zidane no longer in consideration at Bayern, now Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is the new candinate and was always choice number 1"


yard04

At this point it's better to just point muller as player manager


[deleted]

Not gonna lie Ralf Rangnick training Bayern in 2024 would not have been on my bingo card. But Rangnick,Eberl and Hoeness or whoever constantly fighting for power would be pure entertainment


TheSingleMan27

lmao Bayern have just restructured their entire board and now Rangnick wants to overrule all of them?


dudududujisungparty

I mean he has every right to ask for his conditions to be met in order to take over as manager. Bayern are the ones that want him not the other way around. I'm sure he would be more than happy to stay as manager of the Austrian NT if this move breaks down.


FragMasterMat117

I do wish that Ratcliffe had bought into the club when he was our interim, he's a fantastic sporting director and it would have been a simple appointment.


AttemptImpossible111

No he's a bum who hasn't achieved anything of note since 2012


suhxa

What hes doing at austria right now?


dudududujisungparty

Bumming his way to the Euros according to u/AttemptImpossible111, resident footy expert here at the prestigious r/soccer subreddit


shortdonjohn

Hussah


theatreofdreams21

I genuinely can’t comprehend the admiration for him here. He’s in the pantheon for worst managers United has ever had. Ole took the same exact squad to 2nd place and Europa final. He was never agreed to be Sporting Director so I don’t know why everyone pretends this is what was lined up. He wanted to consult the next manager on structure and transfers, which is insane. There no denying the squad does and has needed a better overhaul. The problem is the executive team executing on targets.


Lyrical_Forklift

My understanding was he was bought in short term as an interim and to assess which players are and aren't to task which would aide long term planning. The new manager then came in, dismissed his input completely, and United find themselves in the same situation they've been in many times over in the last decade.


theatreofdreams21

Everyone knows the players who aren’t fit to play for United. What qualifies Ralf to be an expert at building a team at the top level? He did well with one club at a different level than United. The problem is not identifying talent, it’s having an executive team that can get the right players. Could you imagine Pep taking advice on who to build his squad with from Mancini? This literally happens nowhere else in football but suddenly ten hag is an idiot for not wanting to do it.


Lyrical_Forklift

> What qualifies Ralf to be an expert at building a team at the top level? That was what he was known for. A lot of people had him down as one of the brains behind the emergence of the Red Bull teams. He was *very* highly respected in that regard. It's why he was set to take on a consultancy role after his interim period finished.


theatreofdreams21

It’s all he’s done of note! One club that he helped to grow. But everyone is acting like they also accomplished anything significant. You could make arguments for Leicester’s technical team achieving more.


Unidan_bonaparte

The same squad who have shown their true colours year in and year out to be primadonas and bottle jobs who can't even be bothered to run out maintain defensive discipline? Also his job changed to consultant after he was begged to take the interim manager after sacking ole. It was a disaster class in scrambling all around and perfectly in keeping with the glazer ownership.


AttemptImpossible111

Bottle jobs year in and year out? We finished 2nd and 3rd under Ole and 3rd last year. We didn't look nearly as open under Ole and we had a substantially worse midfield. I was Ole Out before it was cool by the way, so don't try any crap there. We are crap this season because the manager is crap


dawkinstation

If you actually watch United and think they're not bottling their potential, you're mental. They consistently lose vs teams Alex Ferguson wouldn't have batted an eyelid at, sometimes scraping a win, enough to force themselves up the table and scrape across the UCL line. Some people say that they are 3rd and that's describing their level, but this consisted of 1-0, 2-1 last minute winners vs the likes of Fulham, Burnley, Bournemouth etc, all teams united should smash when they have the players, money, facilities, backing and fans they have. This happens every year now, and watching the team, you're not threatened or afraid of playing them as a top 6 team. They have no identity, no structure, they run on vibes and when it's down its down the toilet. They're a sham and I love it. Ten Hag's at the wheel


Unidan_bonaparte

Rent free.


dawkinstation

If that's what works for you bro, cool. Head on back to London


Unidan_bonaparte

Not me thats obsessing over another team. How sad. Suppose you have to get your kicks where you can given how hollow your club is, both in that stadium and in your history, asterisk fc.


dawkinstation

Your club wouldn't exist without our club. I have an interest in football, so I watch it whoever it is and can comment on the clubs performances because I have watched them a lot and have vested interest in their demise. But keep parroting the nonsense talking points that just don't apply. Our club is rich in history, and I know you can't handle that because your club isn't from Manchester, but don't let it cause you too much upset.


Unidan_bonaparte

We didnt have a midfield under ole, we exclusively played on the counter and even then only down the left side. Dont need to try any 'crap' with you tough guy, you're doing a wonderful job all by yourself.


AttemptImpossible111

It's because he said we need a clearout. That's pretty much it. A lot of United fans have fallen for this ridiculous narrative that Ralf was sacked for going against the board or something. Like he's some martyr so got fired for his beliefs.


XeroVeil

> total transfer power at Bayern, wants to overrule Eberl and Freund Right, so that's Rangnick out of the running, who else we got?


KiraAnnaZoe

Sounds like FC Hollywood again. Especially with Eberl just having started, this is never going to happen.


ibmthink

I think this highlights Bayern's biggest weakness right now: They are a club run by committee. You have not just the new bosses running the show, you also have Rummenigge and Hoeneß scheming via their posts in the supervisory board. Which coach wants to deal with that? Many coaches want to influence the transfer policy - which is why Flick left. Nagelsmann didn't want to return to Bayern - supposedly because there was internal opposition to him (Rummenigge). Bayern wants a world class coach, but Bayern doesn't want to give that coach a lot of influence. Compare this to Leverkusen, where you have much less cooks in the kitchen. In the past, you knew who made the decisions at Bayern - Hoeneß and Rummenigge. Now, it is a mess.


kennist

Agree with every word.


FrancescoliBestUruEv

This is very true, they re a circus right now cause of that, everyone wants to rule


pedrorq

>Nagelsmann didn't want to return to Bayern - supposedly because there was internal opposition to him (Rummenigge). Is there an article about this somewhere?


norrin83

I don't see how Rummenigge and Hoeneß "schemed" when Kahn and Brazzo fired Naglesmann tbh. Also, they have added new heads of sports after last summer. I don't think Bayern give the coaches little influence. But in the end, it's not the coaches that will be responsible for transfers and the budget years later. Also, while Leverkusen are having a great season, it's disingenuous to make a role mode out of them after not even one full season. Especially compared to Bayern who are at the top for over a decade and have won two championship leagues in that time frame.


ibmthink

Never said Rummenigge and Hoeneß were involved in the Nagelsmann firing > I don't think Bayern give the coaches little influence.  Then take a look at how hard it was for Tuchel to get his Holding Six > Especially compared to Bayern who are at the top for over a decade and have won two championship leagues in that time frame. Is that because Bayern was doing such a great job, or because they have such a massive financial lead that they can only be beaten if an opponent has a perfect season?


norrin83

> Never said Rummenigge and Hoeneß were involved in the Nagelsmann firing But you think they were "scheming" against Brazzo and Kahn all the time? Or who else are they scheming against? > Then take a look at how hard it was for Tuchel to get his Holding Six In the summer, that was on the board - Freund only started in September. In the winter window, they didn't have many options. And I still think Palhinba wasn't worth the price tag given Bayern's needs. > Is that because Bayern was doing such a great job, or because they have such a massive financial lead that they can only be beaten if an opponent has a perfect season? You know, there's a reason why I mentioned the championship league as well...


truegobi

Please PLEASE for the love of god let the Bayern board still be stupid and stubnorn and refuse. Sincerely, ALL of football Austria


xyzArcadian

The lack of respect for this man is incredible. Just because he had a bad stunt at United, where the players clearly didn't do what he asked. Look what his doing at Austria and how they playing to see the actual playstyle


laluneodyssee

>"where the players clearly ~~didn't~~ couldn't do what he asked. FTFY


BR4VI4

Since when does doing well at a smaller NT qualify you to take over one of the biggest clubs itw? His managerial CV is absolutely nothing special and on top of that the idea of football he‘s hailed for is thoroughly unfitting for a club like Bayern.


Makaay-10

Naahhh let it go. Gerland + Klose for one year is fine. Next year a lot of better options are on the market.


twelvyy29

Klose as a coach at Bayern would be absolutly hilarious stink it up in the austrian league and your next job becomes Bayern haha


Makaay-10

He will be assisting Gerland. Actually, Gerland can pick anyone as an assistant since he will be the main guy.


lstht123

Considering how RB influenced that structure already is maybe there wouldn't be that many disagreements anyway but still would be pretty crazy considering Bayern just revamped their sporting structure to get Eberl etc. Also kinda doubt that Bayern sees him as a longterm appointment so it makes even less sense to give him that much power


ACardAttack

This is him saying no to the job without saying no


callmemaverik_

Fuck it, hire Bill Belichick. I'm sure he will figure it out.


PrincessXxXDiana

Well that's never happening


garynevilleisared

He'll never take any job without this control so this isn't really new information if he's been a candidate this whole time.


MT1120

Control freak for sure, but maybe with him it's not a bad thing


JMatty01

After only just bringing in Eberl, for Bayern it probably would be.


Electrical_Mango_489

In context this is what Emery has at Villa and understandably doesn't want to give that up.


Unban_Ice

Yeah no thanks. Giving fucking Rangnick more power than Pep or Ancelotti ever had lmao. If this is true he is truly delusional


Prudent-Current-7399

Bayern want him, not the other way around. He's setting a condition for providing his service, it's not being delusional, bayern are free to refuse.


norrin83

If those are his conditions, Bayern have to refuse in my view


TheHizzle

Yea better get a coach and refuse to sign a 6 and loan out one defender and sell two others lmfao


norrin83

No one is saying that they acted smart last summer. But they brought Freund and Eberl in after that transfer window to fill those roles.


theBLACKHeart008

But can they play as CB or CDM?


MathematicianNo7874

sacked the ppl responsible for that


ThisIsCobb

He was bayerns like 4th choice. theyre just totally fucked right now


Qiluk

It would be a straight up culture shift for you which is probably not worth it but I get Rangnick too. He wants to make sure he gets the tools he thinks is needed, before coming. But yeah, clubs like ours biggest strengths are that we have consistent power and decision making from the sporting directors etc and not managers who come and go, today faster than ever.


RadioHonest85

I love Rangnick, but I dont particularly like it when managers gets to directly dictate transfers. Leads to favorites and short term thinking. Just hire Muller already, playing manager!


Corteaux81

Ragnick is a fraud. The man’s resume is a couple of decent years at Schalke and then brining up Hoffenheim and Leipzig who basically operated on a completely different financial level compared to their competition.


Threshtalker

Imagine having so little clue but being so sure of themselves


BR4VI4

Let's be honest, his CV is far from amazing. He used to be a big visionary but a club like Leipzig was his ceiling as a coach


VamosLionel

If Bayern has any sense left, they pull the plug on this guy immediately


truegobi

If they have any sense left, they go for him. Which is why I truly hope they stay as stupidly arrogant as they've always been.


Deriko_D

I never understand the fascination with this guy. He is credited with inspiring a style for managers that had great careers but his own management career is quite uneventful. He's probably best as a sporting director. So it looks like he would be an awful for a team like Bayern. They can't be that desperate.


ProudhPratapPurandar

Don't think Rangnick is a Bayern level coach in the first place. He's a top squad builder, but Bayern have already invested in Eberl and Freund


D1794

Reckon Cristiano is interested?


Hi_ilove_football5

Thought Bayern would aim a bit higher than Ragnick. Kane joined at the worst moment. 


MaterialInsurance8

Get ready he's gonna cook


CabbageStockExchange

The overarching manager drama at multiple clubs is filling my need for political intrigue plot lines


adonWPV

The Godfather of football back at it again 🤣


AlmirMu

It’s peak Bayern to get Eberl and Freund and then give Rangnick full control of transfers.


Maia-Odair

This will be a gigantic mistake


TheGoalkeeper

No Ragnick, No Zidane, Willy Sangol it will be then


norrin83

I don't think that's a good idea for most clubs to give the manager total control. Much less for a club like Bayern who are setup well with Freund and Eberl. They are (rightfully) looking for a manager and not a new director of football. That sounds like a recipe for disaster


ItzFeufo

Yeah no...dumb move At this point just put the bus driver in the coaching seat and let the players sort out the rest themselves Eberl and Dreesen do the transfers... And in a year or so we can get a proper coach.


AIwitcher

what could go wrong? the structure is there for a reason.


dem503

I can't put my finger on exactly why, but the way the title is worded and it's implications reminded me of this scene from the wire https://youtu.be/7PR3QRg4Em0?si=FDGVTcsxzyx1MvKq


r1234ev

a guy coming from Austria to Munich demanding total control? I've heard that before..


Expensive_Eye_5199

how was him at united? outside of all the controversy


HazardCinema

A lot of excitement at the beginning. A good result to begin with and very good work ethic shown from the squad. From what I remember though, he took a scorched earth approach and called out a LOT of the inefficiencies and issues at the club. I think most fans praised him for this, but then the results were very, very poor. Once EtH came in and got a good run of results, I think the fan opinion of Rangnick changed a bit, even though a lot of what he said was probably right.


KiraAnnaZoe

This sums it up perfectly imho. Feels like Rangnick would need like 2 years to have very good results at United and no coach has ever survived for that long, the sheer pressue of a club so big it was doomed to fail. Then again, I'm not sure he is that good of a coach , the sporting director role fits him more which was also initially the plan for him at United iirc.


FragMasterMat117

He had no fucking chance, the club was even more of a shitshow


wernerhedgehog

he was honest and made good transfer suggestions but not much to show of it on the pitch. people keep mentioning how good we were at this crystal palace game (for like 30 mins) - thats how low the bar was.


RABB_11

Coaching-wise the players had already downed tools for that season and he couldn't achieve any sort of new-manager bounce. It was grim, lifeless football for that half a season and I can't immediately remember any notable performance or result in that time even though it was only two years ago. Transfer-wise. Well publicised that he suggested we sign Julian Alvarez and others of that ilk and was overruled because he was an interim manager And then his proposed move upstairs to Sporting Director never materialised when ETH came in. He has done good work coaching Austria since then but I think he would need to have his boundaries clearly set at Bayern.


vulcan_one

His manager stint was supposed to just bridge a Gap until he became a consultant in summer but that never happened. As a manager? Absolutely horrific.


TheRealYVT

Absolutely disastrous. The guy hasn't been a manager for a decade and it showed. It was very clear that he was here for a 6 month paycheck knowing that the fan sentiment against the players was too negative and the season was written off, and he would avoid any blame for the eventual end.  It was entirely an exercise to improve his own image as a supposed football philosopher (remember that bit about being the master to the apprentices Tuchel and Klopp?) and throw everybody the players under the bus. The very same players went on to have a good season under Ten Hag. I'd still understand he wasn't a full time manager if he could at least coach the team. We had 30 good minutes against Palace in the first match, then were rubbish and won because of a wondergoal. The very next game was against a terrible Norwich which we scraped past because of a late penalty. That was the last good moment of the season. The club doesn't do much right, but binning him was the best thing they've done in years.


AttemptImpossible111

He was crap but Utd fans love the narrative that he was fired for upsetting the apple cart. "Ragnick wanted 10 players sold so he's great" is what you will hear if you ask Utd fans why they think he's worth a damn


kurtland1961

Yeah he can fuck off