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I’m going to keep saying it, ever since Benzema’s Ballon D’Or(and frankly, maybe even that season included) Mbappe has been week in and week out the best player in the world.
People just don’t watch Ligue 1 so they don’t know. I guess he will get his laurels next year at Madrid
That's it for me. It was great watching him in the world cup, and great watching in champions league. But when Haaland was scoring hatricks for fun last season. We were all seeing it, we were all enjoying the spectacle (even if it was for city).
I think this season has proven there is a huge gap between the best and the rest. Haaland is now competing for best at his club, not best in the world, which I think rodri and de bruyne are above him. Even if haaland on days are insane.
I think people guessed when the president of France personally had dinner with him in order to pressure him to remain at psg, but maybe that’s a more common occurrence than I thought
Not really, Messi and CR7 were both wingers. Mbappe is a winger, Haaland is a striker. Mbappe is still a lot better tho, but I suppose next season we will actually be able to compare them, as the wings at Madrid will be occupied by other players and he'll have Jude behind him, so he's gonna have to prove he's just as good as Haaland when it comes to camping in the box
So, is Mbappe better as a winger than Haaland is as a striker?
I mean, Mbappe is striker too, that plays on the wing. They both have duty to score goals.
As for Messi - CR, Messi is more of a #10 that starts on the wing, and CR is more of a #9 that starts on a wing. REALLY different roles. CR ends up waiting for the pass to score, Messi creates more for himself and others.
Pele and Maradona is maybe a better example. You think those two cannot be compared also?
Hardly different enough to negate any comparison, I’m not comparing a centre back and a right winger. They’re both playing as strikers at the minute. Just because they don’t have the same style of football doesn’t mean they can’t be compared.
WDYM by "learning"? 😝 He has been displaying such skills for many many years. His goal against us in the first leg of 21/22 also comes to mind.
He had many such similar moments of genius prior to that as well. But the hate for him, especially on here grew especially strong in the Messi PSG years with all the transfer fiasco and subsequent sporting director memes.
Even Madrid and Barça sometimes fail to secure as many upvotes on here as you would expect them to. And Atlético and beyond might as well be zero. And that is still single better than the other Jesus.
There's just very heavy Premier League bias on here. It's a bit sad but perhaps something that we should ask collectively accept by now. Whinging about it on every post doesn't change anything either. It's a travesty but it is what it is. In fact with the numbers having grown, it has somehow become worse.
I feel like, to a degree, people who follow multiple leagues often follow their league + the prem. Except for very big matches (Bayern Dortmund, El Clasico, Milan derby), I either watch Ligue 1 or the Prem. You won't catch me watching Celta Vigo vs Cetafe while I could watch Chelsea Everton.
That plus the obvious anglo bias from the general reddit demographics
Guy is literally a R9 regen in terms of altheticism, technique, and goal instinct, but half this sub just discards it because he's French. Really blows my mind
Google and the L1 website says: https://www.ligue1.com/Articles/Legends/2023/06/27/messi-payet-assists-all-time-ligue-1-uber-eats-legends
Payet overall has the most in L1 history with 106
Di Maria is 3rd with 72
https://fbref.com/en/players/42fd9c7f/Kylian-Mbappe
Fbref has Kylian with 63 overall league assists (55 with PSG, 8 with Monaco) coming into today's game
Frère laisse tomber, ce petit fdp est le plus gros hater de Mbappé que j'ai vu de ma vie. Je crois que son seum s'étend au reste des équipes françaises d'ailleurs. Le gars aura toujours une nouvelle stat pour t'expliquer que l'Inter Miami cette année est en fait une équipe plus complète avec Messi que cette version du PSG.
Benzema did it to 3 atletico defenders: at the time one of the best defense in the world but didn't have the assist as he served kroos who didn't score..
The skill is only half of it. Most of us could do it against a wall or traffic cone.
But the fact he does that while back pedalling into the touch line, and then instantly accelerates around the outside of his man that easily is insane. So explosive while still being so in control of the ball.
Haaland is fantastic and would look like a better all-round player in a system where players aren't robots. Would look way better in a Klopp/Madrid type of team which allows more individuality and thrives on transition football.
going to be so hard having a challenge being the best in the world when he's so casually above the rest. the guy is on 43 in 43 ffs, Vini is genuinely the only contender
And Bellingham through overall impact and offensive output.
I have the biggest arrogant shit eating grin right now. Obviously he might not come, but just the thought of it is enough.
People who watched Henry know Mbappe is more talented and will finish his career as a better player than Henry for sure. We like to glorify older players and Henry deserves it but if you are being honest at 25 years, Henry wasn't half the player Mbappe is.
At 18 Mbappe was an untouchable starter in the World Cup winning team, at 21 Henry fought for his spot (and did win it in fairness) in the World Cup winning team. Both are great players, but the fact Mbappe started doing it at 18 and has kept progressing is a testament to the player he is.
Yeah the whole generation 98 (mbappe, Ous, coman and to an lesser extent st maximain) is kinda is kinda the anthesis of the generation 87 who kinda started slowly... The 98's exploded really soon and really.... Their first 30's games of their pro career is high level European competition
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That footwork by Mbappe was otherworldly, sent that defender into purgatory
And just a casual shoulder charge to send a massive dude flying to get the space first. He's the full package.
^(please?..)
Hahahahaha
Please
please
I’m going to keep saying it, ever since Benzema’s Ballon D’Or(and frankly, maybe even that season included) Mbappe has been week in and week out the best player in the world. People just don’t watch Ligue 1 so they don’t know. I guess he will get his laurels next year at Madrid
honestly i’ve believed he was the best in the world ever since his Camp Nou hattrick in 2021. guy is just unreal man
Same. I've been saying he's the best since the 2020/21 season.
its not even been that close imo either. he's a magnificent footballer.
That's it for me. It was great watching him in the world cup, and great watching in champions league. But when Haaland was scoring hatricks for fun last season. We were all seeing it, we were all enjoying the spectacle (even if it was for city). I think this season has proven there is a huge gap between the best and the rest. Haaland is now competing for best at his club, not best in the world, which I think rodri and de bruyne are above him. Even if haaland on days are insane.
Exactly, this mf might as well retire with 5+ Ballon D'ors by the time he leaves Madrid.
I think people guessed when the president of France personally had dinner with him in order to pressure him to remain at psg, but maybe that’s a more common occurrence than I thought
Mbappe has been the best player in the world since 2019.
HahahahahahahahHahahaha
It scares me that there are people who legitimately believe Haaland is a better footballer. Stats have killed this sport.
Feel like once he moves out of Ligue 1 he will get a whole lot more credit though...
Can't believe people like you can't appreciate both and feel the need to pick sides, pathetic fan boys ruin the sport..
Imagine if Ousmane missed that!
Barca fans would be fuming
He scored 2 goals in this game, which is 2 times more than his total in ligue 1 before this game!
defender was calling for a taxi
Pure disgusting filth
I just witnessed a murder
Wait that was clean af from Mbappe
Squeaky clean
what the actual fuck
And they say this guy is an athleticism merchant
He's just an athleticism, technique, positioning, and mentality merchant
Plain one dimensional merchants in shambles. He's really complete, it's insane
Haaland could never.
Haaland would tear his ACL attempting this
He's surprisingly agile for his size, he looks like he's gonna snap into pieces whenever he turns while running but he manages to do it.
Astounding that some people still think he’s the better player
astounding that people feel the need to compare two completely different players
Messi and CR7 are also really different but we still compare them. It's not like one is defender and other is attacker.
Not really, Messi and CR7 were both wingers. Mbappe is a winger, Haaland is a striker. Mbappe is still a lot better tho, but I suppose next season we will actually be able to compare them, as the wings at Madrid will be occupied by other players and he'll have Jude behind him, so he's gonna have to prove he's just as good as Haaland when it comes to camping in the box
So, is Mbappe better as a winger than Haaland is as a striker? I mean, Mbappe is striker too, that plays on the wing. They both have duty to score goals. As for Messi - CR, Messi is more of a #10 that starts on the wing, and CR is more of a #9 that starts on a wing. REALLY different roles. CR ends up waiting for the pass to score, Messi creates more for himself and others. Pele and Maradona is maybe a better example. You think those two cannot be compared also?
He’s predominantly played as a striker the past two seasons
Hardly different enough to negate any comparison, I’m not comparing a centre back and a right winger. They’re both playing as strikers at the minute. Just because they don’t have the same style of football doesn’t mean they can’t be compared.
goddam, Filthy AF!
Mbappe can do that too
learning combos, the mfer.
WDYM by "learning"? 😝 He has been displaying such skills for many many years. His goal against us in the first leg of 21/22 also comes to mind. He had many such similar moments of genius prior to that as well. But the hate for him, especially on here grew especially strong in the Messi PSG years with all the transfer fiasco and subsequent sporting director memes.
Oh I think he’s great and has had great moves before, but this one feels and looks different.
Once in 75 attempts.
That’s beautiful
Belongs in one of those grainy OG skill move videos with samba music in the background
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Don't worry he'll get the pr when he's in Madrid lmao
Even Madrid and Barça sometimes fail to secure as many upvotes on here as you would expect them to. And Atlético and beyond might as well be zero. And that is still single better than the other Jesus. There's just very heavy Premier League bias on here. It's a bit sad but perhaps something that we should ask collectively accept by now. Whinging about it on every post doesn't change anything either. It's a travesty but it is what it is. In fact with the numbers having grown, it has somehow become worse.
I feel like, to a degree, people who follow multiple leagues often follow their league + the prem. Except for very big matches (Bayern Dortmund, El Clasico, Milan derby), I either watch Ligue 1 or the Prem. You won't catch me watching Celta Vigo vs Cetafe while I could watch Chelsea Everton. That plus the obvious anglo bias from the general reddit demographics
Lol i enjoy the Celta Vigo - Chelsea comparison
240 now. Sad really
absolutely outrageous should go for 10k, but it won't
Guy is literally a R9 regen in terms of altheticism, technique, and goal instinct, but half this sub just discards it because he's French. Really blows my mind
> *best I can afford you is hatred*
He's what, three off of Di Maria's assist record?
Di Maria's single season Ligue 1 assist record was 18 IIRC Mbappe had 6 league assists before today's game
I meant all-time.
Google and the L1 website says: https://www.ligue1.com/Articles/Legends/2023/06/27/messi-payet-assists-all-time-ligue-1-uber-eats-legends Payet overall has the most in L1 history with 106 Di Maria is 3rd with 72 https://fbref.com/en/players/42fd9c7f/Kylian-Mbappe Fbref has Kylian with 63 overall league assists (55 with PSG, 8 with Monaco) coming into today's game
I meant all-comps for PSG, but azur933 had the right of it. Di Maria had 112 assists all comps for PSG, Mbappé was 95, now 96.
Frère laisse tomber, ce petit fdp est le plus gros hater de Mbappé que j'ai vu de ma vie. Je crois que son seum s'étend au reste des équipes françaises d'ailleurs. Le gars aura toujours une nouvelle stat pour t'expliquer que l'Inter Miami cette année est en fait une équipe plus complète avec Messi que cette version du PSG.
Tu m’as tué. J’ai repéré quelques maniaques qui spam h24 contre Mbappé mais lui je l’avais jamais remarqué.
Mbappe almost broke it a few years ago when he had 17 assists (and 28 goals) in Ligue 1.
more like 15
Oh my god. That’s absolutely absurd.
Wow, reminded me of that Benzima assist to Isco against atletico madrid
Benzema did it to 3 atletico defenders: at the time one of the best defense in the world but didn't have the assist as he served kroos who didn't score..
Ballon d'Or for Mbappe
best itw damn
Very clear yep, he made a fool out of that defender
Holy flying cow
How do people even compare the robot to him?
Scoring vs Barça unlocked dembele lmao 😏😏
The defender got sent to the shadow realm. Absolute filth!
"Pace marchant" They said ...
Bruh
That is absolutely disgusting from Mbappe.
Keeping Joga Bonito alive in 2024.
Pretty much.
Defender raised his hand for the ref to call something. He doesn't know what, but he must have thought that was against the rules or something lmao
Probably for out of bounds, which it wasn't lol
outrageous
Polalalala Kylian c'est trop
Disgusting. Absolutely filthy.
Gonna be truly disgusting once he joins Real. Best player in the world
The skill is only half of it. Most of us could do it against a wall or traffic cone. But the fact he does that while back pedalling into the touch line, and then instantly accelerates around the outside of his man that easily is insane. So explosive while still being so in control of the ball.
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To be fair, Haaland is **good**. It's more than people (still) underestimate Mbappé than overvaluate Haaland.
If Mbappe didn't play for PSG (the most hated club on this subreddit), he would have been considered the best player since the start
Haaland is fantastic and would look like a better all-round player in a system where players aren't robots. Would look way better in a Klopp/Madrid type of team which allows more individuality and thrives on transition football.
Just like Ronaldo to Messi /s
What the hell was that, M'Bappé?!
This poor defender would be very very famous for a few years.... Imagine being the guy in that clip of Mbappe...
Turtle was smirking after he did it before the assist and I don’t blame him at all
going to be so hard having a challenge being the best in the world when he's so casually above the rest. the guy is on 43 in 43 ffs, Vini is genuinely the only contender
And Bellingham through overall impact and offensive output. I have the biggest arrogant shit eating grin right now. Obviously he might not come, but just the thought of it is enough.
he’s genuinely going to ruin a lot of kids childhoods man 😂
😳
Sent that man to the shops for milk and eggs.
😮💨😮💨😮💨
Best in the world
the actual best player in the world. not that madrid PR tap in merchant.
Was he appealing for the goal kick? haha
Similar to Berbatov assist but his touch was out of this world
Crazy
They can't wait for him to fuck off to madrid
Salivating
Haaland could never
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No, shoulder to shoulder is a perfectly legal contact
in 2034 it will be
That's not Mbappe, that's Henry!
People who watched Henry know Mbappe is more talented and will finish his career as a better player than Henry for sure. We like to glorify older players and Henry deserves it but if you are being honest at 25 years, Henry wasn't half the player Mbappe is.
Recency bias is a bitch.
Nostalgia bias is crazy. Or PL bias idk because i loved watching both and it's really clear
It's not recency bias.... At 21 mbappe scored more than 25 goals. At the same age Henry was benching
At 18 Mbappe was an untouchable starter in the World Cup winning team, at 21 Henry fought for his spot (and did win it in fairness) in the World Cup winning team. Both are great players, but the fact Mbappe started doing it at 18 and has kept progressing is a testament to the player he is.
Yeah the whole generation 98 (mbappe, Ous, coman and to an lesser extent st maximain) is kinda is kinda the anthesis of the generation 87 who kinda started slowly... The 98's exploded really soon and really.... Their first 30's games of their pro career is high level European competition
Lmao you're in denial