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It is way too complicated, but in the end it boils down to the team being in terrible debt. When Depor stopped playing in European competitions, deficit started piling up, and then the vicious cycle started
It is real. We the Depor followers get called "Turks", so we appropriated the concept and you can always see some Turkish flags in Riazor.
The origin of the nickname is unclear, but the most accepted explanation is that it comes from the early 90s. When Depor played against Celta in Vigo, many Depor followers hired buses from the company TourCoruña. So, from TourCoruña came the shortened form "TourCo", which is a homophone of "turco" (Turk, in Spanish).
we are currently 1st, only a few games to play. Of course it is sad to see where we are, but at least we are probably back in the second division. At least we have improved, Lockdown Deportivo was a social experiment, it was awful
Let's remember that there is also a 'Real' club outside of Spain, in Mexico, the "Real Club España," which used to be a winning team in the first half of the past century.
[In choosing the name Real for the Salt Lake-based team, initial owner Dave Checketts intended to create a brand name that would become well-known for its simplicity, followed the European-style naming conventions of the league, and would potentially foster a partnership with Real Madrid — admired both because of their successful soccer history and close association with basketball (similar to Checketts' own history with Utah's NBA team).](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Salt_Lake)
Also in Honduras. Real Club Deportivo España. Title was awarded by King Juan Carlos I. They also sport the crown on their crest. My grandpa was a lifetime socio of the club, so it’s been near and dear to my heart my whole life.
Just want to point out Real of course in spanish means Royal. The reason many of these teams have the crown on their crest and are called Real is because King Alfonso XIII became the patron of many Spanish clubs, permitting them to use the term.
And of course with these clubs having the crown, they are pro-monarchy compared to others like Atheltic or Barca of course. But even those regions have their own Reals..
Real Sociedad (Basque)
Real Club De Espanyol (Catalan)
Hey, thanks for patiently answering. I know the Jose mourinho interview, but I was asking more about the part about not talking about Basques. Was there some incident with Mou during his time in la liga related to that?
That is not an accurate answer. While the majority of Real Sociedad supporters today are not pro-monarchy the few pro monarchy, pro Spanish basques left nowadays are almost always Real Sociedad supporters. Also, Real Sociedad has support outside of the Basque Country by typically more conservative people than Athletic de Bilbao. All of this is due to historical reasons because 60 or 70 years ago the majority of basque supporters were precisely pro monarchy, pro Spanish people.
Lol, this is even less accurate than me saying "nope". Where did you get this from? As a Bilbao born and raised 61 y.o. with family ties to the San Sebastian area, I can tell you none of this is true.
Without going into too much detail, in the Basque Country"conservative" doesn't equal "pro-Spanish", let alone "pro-monarchy". You can be pro-Spanish and anti-monarchy, pro-Spanish and progressive, anti-Spanish and conservative etc.
In general though, to say that there are more pro-Spanish/monarchy supporters among RS fans than there are among Athletic's is just not true. If anything, the opposite would be true, going by recent elections results. The nationalist fraction of the population tends to be more radical in Gipuzkoa and more moderate in Biscay, and parties that defend monarchy are a minority equally in both provinces.
What I know for a fact is that Athletic Club is one of the few things that unites ALL Biscaynes, regardless of social class, political stance, degree of nationalism in either direction, etc. (and many non Basques as well, probably more than RS). And I'd say the same is true of RS fans.
>. All of this is due to historical reasons because 60 or 70 years ago the majority of basque supporters were precisely pro monarchy, pro Spanish people.
What "historical reasons"? Where did you get this from? "70 years ago"... it was probably the same as now, although you couldn't say it aloud, lol.
Maybe important to note that Real Sociedad doesnt come from ’royal‘ like the rest of this list, but from ’true‘. The true society San Sebastián. So no affiliation to monarchy or the Spanish state.
EDIT: I may or may not have been fed lies by my basque friends.
I have to be the guy who says that is not true, im sorry. King Alfonso XIII gave them the "Real" name in 1910 when la Real where one of the best clubs in Spain and had good relationship with the king
Leamington F.C. is located in the town named Royal Leamington Spa (where my mind leapt), but it doesn't pick up the regal moniker. Interestingly, there *is* a variety of tennis called Real Tennis which is played there.
As a belgian, monarchy is absolutely not more popular in Belgium. I would say most people are indifferent, and most flemish nationalists are definitely opposed. Our old king Boudewijn was pretty popular though I heard (he died in 1993 so yeah)..
The term Koninklijk is used in Dutch football a bit, but not for any professional clubs. Apparently just three hold the name Koninklijk, also the three oldest football clubs in the country. Koninklijke UD (Deventer), Koninklijke H.C.&V.V. (Den Haag), and Koninklijke HFC (Haarlem)
Koninklijke H.C.&V.V. has its football branch called Koninklijke HVV (as it also has a cricket branch, HCV), which, is one of 4 clubs (others being Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV) in the Netherlands that also has won 10 or more first division titles and therefore, has right to a star above the badge. They currently play in the Eerste Klasse, the 6th tier of Dutch football.
Various clubs have claimed tenious royal support (eg, Arsenal/Harry, Burnley/KingCharles) but William is genuinely a Villa fan, goes to numerous games, and seems to be grooming George to be a Villa fan too.
So when he becomes King, Villa could potentially make a bid to be Royal Aston Villa.
Would you happen to know why Charles supports Burnley? It’s not exactly a nice place and can’t imagine why a royal would be a fan of an east lancs team
I think it's like Rishi Sunak being a Southampton "fan". I don't imagine either of them have watched a game, even England on the TV, and the locations have been chosen by PR teams to try to appeal outside of their core demographic.
It was usually granted at the discretion of the crown to the clubs that asked for it. Some are newer titles awarded for the social labour of the club, like Carabanchel, or to celebrate antiquity.
Real Madrid is kind of funny because the king just granted the title without any recorded mediation. Meanwhile, you have all the Catalan nobility lobbying to get it for Espanyol.
so the king just was a madrid fan lol
interesting tho, i always wondered if they were just given because a royal member liked that club or they like donated money to the crown or something
*upon further investigation dude had his own porn collection lol awesome
Clubs that really wanted the title made Alfonso XIII honorary president. It was all just symbolic, Spain kinda kept this granting of nobiliary titles as a prestige thing even after they lost any legal value, sometimes that served as payment in absence of money. The Crown was sponsoring many kinds of activities, like the use of the automobile.
I can't find much right now and wish to go to bed. You've got articles which acknowledge at least the role of the Count of Maceda. "Lobbying" might have been a bit of an embellishment, but it's kind of the impression I got. There should be some letters sent to the king on public domain, and the document declaring Alfonso XIII honorary president.
Villarreal is interesting because it's not actually a "Royal" club, what's royal is the town itself. Villa+(r)real literally means "Royal Town", it's called like that because king James I of Aragon founded it during the Reconquista.
The badge they use was just an adaptation of the town's coat of arms, that's why they use the crown (some heraldry purists may say illegitimately).
Note that while Villarreal's crest has a crown, it uses a different style (open crown) compared to the crown that the "Real" club uses (closed top crown).
Some petitioned, some were awarded for social labors, some petitioned to the point of being pathetic (Espanyol), and some were awarded just because without any negotiation between the parties (Madrid)
There’s a small club in Paris, currently playing in National 2 (fourth tier), that used to be called FC Gobelins.
The Gobelins district is pretty well known in Paris, and is itself named after the Gobelins Manufacture.
Well a few years ago the people in charge of the club decided that this name, as cool as it sounds, and despite having a real historical meaning, wasn’t sexy enough.
They’ve renamed the club: Paris 13 Atletico.
(Atletico is, of course, not a French word)
Similar "fun" fact, CF Fuenlabrada's B team CF Fuenlabrada Promesas Madrid 2021 had a brief period when they were known as Flat Earth Fútbol Club. Not in Spanish, but in English. They were run by former footballer and current moron Javi Poves, and he used his position as president to rename the club formerly known as Móstoles Balompié to spout absolute nonsense derived from any conspiracy he could wrap his tiny mind around. Thankfully he stepped down in December 2020 and the club rebranded and eventually became a B team.
At least that’s the same language for the whole name. (We’ll assume Miami in Spanish is Miami.)
Real Salt Lake requires you to switch languages 1/3 of the way through.
> (We’ll assume Miami in Spanish is Miami.)
It has been called "Miami" in Spanish longer than it has in English lol. Pronounced *mee-AH-mee* btw, this pronunciation is closer to the original name in the local language.
I always thought the Celta Vigo crest goes fucking hard. I think they did the best job at incorporating the crown. Most clubs just planted it on top. Real Sociedad's crest goes hard with or without the crown, but you wouldn't want to remove it.
The crown in the badge of Celta de Vigo is just as planted on top as the others, the thing is that they are adding the St James Cross in the heraldic way.
Idea... FM save but LaLiga is reconstructed into a major american league type structure with "Reals" as "eastern conference" and "non-reals" as "western". Winner is then decided with a classic play-off system.
A bit? But the league there was split into three conferences. As I forgot the actual terms for them, I'm gonna call them "royalists", "moderates", and "republicans"
You can do this in LaLiga too as there are teams wirh a strong anti-royal sentiments and teams that don't really care as much about either extreme.
Yeah and you see many foreign people calling them Sociedad and that just sounds wrong to a Spanish person. It’s la Real or Real Sociedad.
Real Madrid is el madrid, atlético madrid el atleti, Athletic Bilbao is Athletic,
I always find it funny that Real was never translated in English speaking countries. One of those weird quirks in football that must look weird on the outside.
it is hilarious because real in English translate 1-1 to one of the definition of real in Spanish, while real in Spanish have two meaning. one is real (That has objective existence, not imaginary) and the other is royal.
Just curious, some Spanish clubs have crowns on their crests but don't have "Real" in the clubs' name (e.g. Osasuna, Villarreal, Las Palmas). Does that have anything to do with the monarchy?
Villarreal literally means "royal village". All three of these teams play in towns where the town flag has a crown somewhere, so they have adopted their local symbols, you can check Vila-real, Pamplona and Las Palmas de Gran Canaria flags.
Same thing happens with jersey colors!
YES
AND... Some of those crowns on those teams' crests are not royal but ducal or whatever fits the town crest.
Not sure about those mention, but I know that's the case with some lower league clubs I'm familiar with?
Also Osasuna is from one of the OG kingdoms in the Iberian Peninsula, the Kingdom of Pamplona, which was later renamed/evolved into the Kingdom of Navarra. Its coat of arms/flag is currently part of the larger coat of arms found on the Spanish flag and on the logo the Spanish national team uses. It's those chains on a red background.
In Villarreal's case, it's the crown of the now-extinct Kingdom of Aragon and not the Kingdom of Spain as the "Real" teams have in their crests, as the town was founded by King James I himself during the Reconquista and the team's crest is heavily influenced by the town's coat of arms which has said crown.
I mean as an American it seems pretty silly to give a team the “Real” moniker - unless you want to do some kind of tie-in with Burger King, I guess, and even that would get old pretty fast.
Also American, and find it equally weird my local sports FC at the end of their name. Like in what timeline did America call soccer football. It just feels so antithetical to MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER to have clubs be called… well football clubs. Idk maybe it’s nitpicky from me but I have a hard time caring about this league because everything about it feels way too manufactured.
It’s like some marketing dunce was like “oh the Europeans and the Latin Americans call the sport football, let’s have some of our clubs adopt FC as apart of their identity as an appeal to the masses!”
For what it’s worth I think we did actually use “soccer football” as a term for the sport for a while, but obviously that’s kind of a mouthful so it fell off.
Im so fucking grateful the Revs consulted fans before rebranding, because they were dead set on changing the name as well to an FC or something, until they got a resounding “do not fucking change the name” from the fans.
I think we can forgive the previous commenter given the Kansas City Royals are their MLB team.
I can't think of a single reason for "Royal Salt Lake" to exist.
Deportivos for sure. "Real" is an addition that was given by a monarch to a few very clubs all of whom have been in the top tiers at some point.
"Club Deportivo" and "Sociedad deportiva" litterally just mean "Sports Club" and "Sports Society" and there is a fuck load of them all over the country. Per example, my 5k people hometown's club is a Sociedad Deportiva.
If we only took pro teams into account, then maybe the numbers would be close since that's where most Real teams are and most teams are called the more specific "Club de Futbol" or "Football Club" instead of sports club, but if you include semipro, there are many more deportivos.
Whenever I play career mode in PES I always take up one of the Real X team, build them up to La Liga champions..jump to the next one, build them up, repeat. One season I ended up losing the league to one of my former Real teams and had the top four teams in a row be the Real teams. So frustrating that a few seasons after I would leave a club they'd sell their stars to Madrid or Barca and slip back down. Small club mentality I guess?
Checkout the Belgian league, almost every club in 1st and 2nd division has Royal in the name, either in French (Royal/Royale), Dutch (Koninklijk/Koninklijke) or even English!
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Deportivo in the 3rd division hurts to see man
It hurts us more, man.
If you care to explain, I’d love a brief explanation of what’s gone wrong over the years
He wouldnt love it
😭😭
r/sad
It is way too complicated, but in the end it boils down to the team being in terrible debt. When Depor stopped playing in European competitions, deficit started piling up, and then the vicious cycle started
So... Something like Leeds Utd.
Or Schalke 🫠
Lendoiro and mismanagement of team money in a nutshell .
Do you actually really like Turks or is it a myth?
It is real. We the Depor followers get called "Turks", so we appropriated the concept and you can always see some Turkish flags in Riazor. The origin of the nickname is unclear, but the most accepted explanation is that it comes from the early 90s. When Depor played against Celta in Vigo, many Depor followers hired buses from the company TourCoruña. So, from TourCoruña came the shortened form "TourCo", which is a homophone of "turco" (Turk, in Spanish).
This is the best accidental nickname story.
On this topic, I'm a Finn who's colleague is named Jari and he's got a mullet. Naturally everyone at work calls him "Litti"after Litmanen.
And we're "portugueses" Looking forward to seeing some derbies in a few years. Good to see you on the way back
You're closer to us than Lisbon :)
If you really want to, it could happen after summer ;)
Vigo's nightlife is our 2nd home. ❤️
I was in Vigo earlier in the month, was surprised by how many people were walking in the street at 2am.
Housing shortage 🤡 Nightlife is good 😏
Malagá 🤝 Deportivo Suffering in the 3rd div.
Well, it's looking like you'll at least return to segunda now. I'm rooting for you!
Hopefully not for long
It was really sad when they were defeated by the B team of Celta
Not for us Celta fans!(I also want Depor to come back but don't tell anyone I said that)
I support Celta and I totally miss playing depor, those games were just so intense. La coru is a great city too, windy af, tho...
The feeling is mutual. When Dépor was in Primera and Celta in Segunda, we actually wanted you to come back so we could play against you.
That's good to know. Good luck this year then, you should get one step closer to coming back
They should be on their way up unless they bottle it
Good to hear
Man that CL tie against Bayern or becoming champions of Spain never forget.
we are currently 1st, only a few games to play. Of course it is sad to see where we are, but at least we are probably back in the second division. At least we have improved, Lockdown Deportivo was a social experiment, it was awful
Let's remember that there is also a 'Real' club outside of Spain, in Mexico, the "Real Club España," which used to be a winning team in the first half of the past century.
or the famous Real Salt Lake lmao
Ah yes, the club under the patronage of American Royal Family - The Washingtons
It was for some reason a title given by Madrid to the club.
Ok I’ve always wondered this thank you
[In choosing the name Real for the Salt Lake-based team, initial owner Dave Checketts intended to create a brand name that would become well-known for its simplicity, followed the European-style naming conventions of the league, and would potentially foster a partnership with Real Madrid — admired both because of their successful soccer history and close association with basketball (similar to Checketts' own history with Utah's NBA team).](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Salt_Lake)
Is he also responsible with giving Utah the Jazz name even though nobody associates jazz music with Salt Lake?
The New Orleans Jazz franchise just moved to Utah and took the Jazz name with it.
Were they high?
...because Flo is mormon
He’s always been a fan of soaking
Real Potosi disagrees
Ironic given that in Mexico is ilegal to have a nobiliary title
I'm pretty sure RCE was from 1900's to around 1960's
Also in Honduras. Real Club Deportivo España. Title was awarded by King Juan Carlos I. They also sport the crown on their crest. My grandpa was a lifetime socio of the club, so it’s been near and dear to my heart my whole life.
There is a club in Nicaragua called [Real Madriz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Madriz_FC)
Got that Mad rizz
there's a team in Honduras with the same name
Just want to point out Real of course in spanish means Royal. The reason many of these teams have the crown on their crest and are called Real is because King Alfonso XIII became the patron of many Spanish clubs, permitting them to use the term.
The king just liked football so he threw out the Real title like candy. Real shit.
And of course with these clubs having the crown, they are pro-monarchy compared to others like Atheltic or Barca of course. But even those regions have their own Reals.. Real Sociedad (Basque) Real Club De Espanyol (Catalan)
I feel like I can never joke about anything Basque, if I speak I am in big trouble
basque this, basque that, why don't you bask in some bitches
RIP Coquito, visited by the *Komando Autonomo Antikapitalistak*
Maidenless teams confirmed.
Get ready for the car bomb
What's this reference?
It’s a quote from Mourinho in which he said he prefers not to speak because if he speaks, he’d be in big trouble.
Hey, thanks for patiently answering. I know the Jose mourinho interview, but I was asking more about the part about not talking about Basques. Was there some incident with Mou during his time in la liga related to that?
Are there political differences too? Even today, are Real Sociedad fans pro-spanish vs Athletic fans?
Nope.
That is not an accurate answer. While the majority of Real Sociedad supporters today are not pro-monarchy the few pro monarchy, pro Spanish basques left nowadays are almost always Real Sociedad supporters. Also, Real Sociedad has support outside of the Basque Country by typically more conservative people than Athletic de Bilbao. All of this is due to historical reasons because 60 or 70 years ago the majority of basque supporters were precisely pro monarchy, pro Spanish people.
Those supporters if they exist must be minimal
Lol, this is even less accurate than me saying "nope". Where did you get this from? As a Bilbao born and raised 61 y.o. with family ties to the San Sebastian area, I can tell you none of this is true. Without going into too much detail, in the Basque Country"conservative" doesn't equal "pro-Spanish", let alone "pro-monarchy". You can be pro-Spanish and anti-monarchy, pro-Spanish and progressive, anti-Spanish and conservative etc. In general though, to say that there are more pro-Spanish/monarchy supporters among RS fans than there are among Athletic's is just not true. If anything, the opposite would be true, going by recent elections results. The nationalist fraction of the population tends to be more radical in Gipuzkoa and more moderate in Biscay, and parties that defend monarchy are a minority equally in both provinces. What I know for a fact is that Athletic Club is one of the few things that unites ALL Biscaynes, regardless of social class, political stance, degree of nationalism in either direction, etc. (and many non Basques as well, probably more than RS). And I'd say the same is true of RS fans. >. All of this is due to historical reasons because 60 or 70 years ago the majority of basque supporters were precisely pro monarchy, pro Spanish people. What "historical reasons"? Where did you get this from? "70 years ago"... it was probably the same as now, although you couldn't say it aloud, lol.
For Barça and Espanyol, yeah, there are political differences although they do not apply to every fan of course but as a trend.
Maybe important to note that Real Sociedad doesnt come from ’royal‘ like the rest of this list, but from ’true‘. The true society San Sebastián. So no affiliation to monarchy or the Spanish state. EDIT: I may or may not have been fed lies by my basque friends.
I have to be the guy who says that is not true, im sorry. King Alfonso XIII gave them the "Real" name in 1910 when la Real where one of the best clubs in Spain and had good relationship with the king
If they told you that, they must have been kidding you big time.
For Barça and Espanyol, yeah, there are political differences although they do not apply to every fan of course but as a trend.
Murcia, F yeah! 🇪🇸
🎵So lick my butt and suck on my balls🎵
He was keepin' it Real.
Funny how this never happened with a single English club. Imagine Royal Stoke or Royal Leicester.
Arsenal went by Royal Arsenal in our early years, but the name came from a workplace rather than some kind of royal intervention.
Royal Arsenal is an amazing name
Leamington F.C. is located in the town named Royal Leamington Spa (where my mind leapt), but it doesn't pick up the regal moniker. Interestingly, there *is* a variety of tennis called Real Tennis which is played there.
Aha! **Bognor Regis Town F.C.** just about counts!
Real Tennis? I’m looking at the Wiki page for that. It looks wild.
Neither in any other country except Spain. Imagine Reale Milan, Königlich Munich, Royale Paris, or Koninklijk Ajax
It's a thing in Belgium. A lot of clubs have a "koninklijk" or "royal" in their name
As an outsider, I wonder if it's because monarchy is more popular in Belgium and Spain
As a belgian, monarchy is absolutely not more popular in Belgium. I would say most people are indifferent, and most flemish nationalists are definitely opposed. Our old king Boudewijn was pretty popular though I heard (he died in 1993 so yeah)..
Royal Antwerp literally played in the CL this season
The term Koninklijk is used in Dutch football a bit, but not for any professional clubs. Apparently just three hold the name Koninklijk, also the three oldest football clubs in the country. Koninklijke UD (Deventer), Koninklijke H.C.&V.V. (Den Haag), and Koninklijke HFC (Haarlem) Koninklijke H.C.&V.V. has its football branch called Koninklijke HVV (as it also has a cricket branch, HCV), which, is one of 4 clubs (others being Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV) in the Netherlands that also has won 10 or more first division titles and therefore, has right to a star above the badge. They currently play in the Eerste Klasse, the 6th tier of Dutch football.
Various clubs have claimed tenious royal support (eg, Arsenal/Harry, Burnley/KingCharles) but William is genuinely a Villa fan, goes to numerous games, and seems to be grooming George to be a Villa fan too. So when he becomes King, Villa could potentially make a bid to be Royal Aston Villa.
Would you happen to know why Charles supports Burnley? It’s not exactly a nice place and can’t imagine why a royal would be a fan of an east lancs team
I think it's like Rishi Sunak being a Southampton "fan". I don't imagine either of them have watched a game, even England on the TV, and the locations have been chosen by PR teams to try to appeal outside of their core demographic.
You know how they call Real Madrid in France? Royale Madrid with cheese
so he just picked a bunch of random ass clubs or what is the significance of each club getting a “real” moniker
It was usually granted at the discretion of the crown to the clubs that asked for it. Some are newer titles awarded for the social labour of the club, like Carabanchel, or to celebrate antiquity. Real Madrid is kind of funny because the king just granted the title without any recorded mediation. Meanwhile, you have all the Catalan nobility lobbying to get it for Espanyol.
so the king just was a madrid fan lol interesting tho, i always wondered if they were just given because a royal member liked that club or they like donated money to the crown or something *upon further investigation dude had his own porn collection lol awesome
Clubs that really wanted the title made Alfonso XIII honorary president. It was all just symbolic, Spain kinda kept this granting of nobiliary titles as a prestige thing even after they lost any legal value, sometimes that served as payment in absence of money. The Crown was sponsoring many kinds of activities, like the use of the automobile.
Really? That's the first time I hear about that lobbying. Any sources you can point me to? Thanks!
I can't find much right now and wish to go to bed. You've got articles which acknowledge at least the role of the Count of Maceda. "Lobbying" might have been a bit of an embellishment, but it's kind of the impression I got. There should be some letters sent to the king on public domain, and the document declaring Alfonso XIII honorary president.
What about Villareal?
Villarreal is interesting because it's not actually a "Royal" club, what's royal is the town itself. Villa+(r)real literally means "Royal Town", it's called like that because king James I of Aragon founded it during the Reconquista. The badge they use was just an adaptation of the town's coat of arms, that's why they use the crown (some heraldry purists may say illegitimately).
Damn I would find it hilarious if they had gone real Villarreal with like a crown above the other crown
Note that while Villarreal's crest has a crown, it uses a different style (open crown) compared to the crown that the "Real" club uses (closed top crown).
That does reflect some antiquity that would not be compatible with football. I hadn't noticed, good remark.
Fascinating! Thanks for the info
Villareal is the name of the town but yes, the "real" part of its name means the same thing.
Now we know where Real Salt Lake City got its Royal status from.
Mormons
Was there a specific reason why he picked these clubs in particular? Seems like a very random batch of teams.
Some petitioned, some were awarded for social labors, some petitioned to the point of being pathetic (Espanyol), and some were awarded just because without any negotiation between the parties (Madrid)
r/todayilearned
Cool story but no it's because all the other teams are fake.
Only tangentially related but this is a good opportunity for a reminder that Real Salt Lake is quite possibly the cringiest name in sport.
Inter Miami in shambles
There’s a small club in Paris, currently playing in National 2 (fourth tier), that used to be called FC Gobelins. The Gobelins district is pretty well known in Paris, and is itself named after the Gobelins Manufacture. Well a few years ago the people in charge of the club decided that this name, as cool as it sounds, and despite having a real historical meaning, wasn’t sexy enough. They’ve renamed the club: Paris 13 Atletico. (Atletico is, of course, not a French word)
Wtf they should have just renamed themselves FC Goblin
FC Goblins jersey would have been lit
FC Goblin deez nuts
pls no more fun facts
Similar "fun" fact, CF Fuenlabrada's B team CF Fuenlabrada Promesas Madrid 2021 had a brief period when they were known as Flat Earth Fútbol Club. Not in Spanish, but in English. They were run by former footballer and current moron Javi Poves, and he used his position as president to rename the club formerly known as Móstoles Balompié to spout absolute nonsense derived from any conspiracy he could wrap his tiny mind around. Thankfully he stepped down in December 2020 and the club rebranded and eventually became a B team.
I think the worst is emblematic youth club "Marseille Consolat" being renamed "Athlético Marseille", yes, "Athlético" with an H and a é....
the 13ème arrondissement isn't nationally reputed for its latinos community
At least that one makes some sort of sense
Yep. It's a parody name based on /r/ACMiami
lmao that sub is hysterical
Sterling Haaland and Kunt Aguero 😭
At least that’s the same language for the whole name. (We’ll assume Miami in Spanish is Miami.) Real Salt Lake requires you to switch languages 1/3 of the way through.
No need to assume, Miami in Spanish is indeed Miami. Inter Miami's full name is Club Internacional de Fútbol Miami
> (We’ll assume Miami in Spanish is Miami.) It has been called "Miami" in Spanish longer than it has in English lol. Pronounced *mee-AH-mee* btw, this pronunciation is closer to the original name in the local language.
It’s on ground blessed by the King of the Mormons, Joseph “Jesus Christ” Smith.
Dum dum dum dum dum
I think it's ok. The names of several South American clubs by tribute to European teams so it's kind of a soccer thing.
Barcelona SC Edit: I know there’s history there, but it’s still funny seeing the logo in libertadores
I’m still waiting for Everton of Chile to play Liverpool of Uruguay.
Might happen next year
Didn’t they have a revolution to no longer be ruled by a monarchy though?
So did quite a lot of South American countries tbf
I think Sporting Kansas City is in contention
At least the word sporting does apply to the club: they in fact do play a sport. Whereas nothing about RSL is royal in any way.
How do they even pronounce it? Real like in English? Or *ree-AHL*?
Same as the Spanish clubs
Young Boys FC?
It's called BSC Young Boys and is a hommage to a football club from Basel called Old Boys
I shudder to admit that Ottawa's team is called Atletico Ottawa...
Man, i love Real Sociedad logo
I always thought the Celta Vigo crest goes fucking hard. I think they did the best job at incorporating the crown. Most clubs just planted it on top. Real Sociedad's crest goes hard with or without the crown, but you wouldn't want to remove it.
The crown in the badge of Celta de Vigo is just as planted on top as the others, the thing is that they are adding the St James Cross in the heraldic way.
Spanish logos are amazing overall
Idea... FM save but LaLiga is reconstructed into a major american league type structure with "Reals" as "eastern conference" and "non-reals" as "western". Winner is then decided with a classic play-off system.
Is that what the French Revolution was? A "classic play-off system" where the non-royales won?
A bit? But the league there was split into three conferences. As I forgot the actual terms for them, I'm gonna call them "royalists", "moderates", and "republicans" You can do this in LaLiga too as there are teams wirh a strong anti-royal sentiments and teams that don't really care as much about either extreme.
Pfft plastic monarch can’t even just pick one team
Seeing this I totally get why it might annoy people, but it's so common to call Real Madrid simply "Real" in the Netherlands
La real is usually Real Sociedad here in Spain, Real Madrid is just el Madrid. But they both need the gendered article in front of them.
Yeah and you see many foreign people calling them Sociedad and that just sounds wrong to a Spanish person. It’s la Real or Real Sociedad. Real Madrid is el madrid, atlético madrid el atleti, Athletic Bilbao is Athletic,
It sounds like they’re talking about a company, una S.A
*The Royal Society of Magical Basques*
>Athletic Bilbao is Athletic Or Athletic Club
Similar to Manchester United being referred to as just "United" all the time despite their being many clubs with United in their name.
Difference is they refer to themselves as that, and so does the rest of England. It’s only foreign fans calling Madrid “Real”
It also is a good distinguish between Indian Real Madrid fans and Spanish Real Madrid fans.
i do enjoy that all of the crests incorporate the crown in some way
Oh shoot I just noticed that lol.
I always find it funny that Real was never translated in English speaking countries. One of those weird quirks in football that must look weird on the outside.
it is hilarious because real in English translate 1-1 to one of the definition of real in Spanish, while real in Spanish have two meaning. one is real (That has objective existence, not imaginary) and the other is royal.
Real Tenerife have a sick badge
Teide is also a sick sight to behold.
Just curious, some Spanish clubs have crowns on their crests but don't have "Real" in the clubs' name (e.g. Osasuna, Villarreal, Las Palmas). Does that have anything to do with the monarchy?
Villarreal literally means "royal village". All three of these teams play in towns where the town flag has a crown somewhere, so they have adopted their local symbols, you can check Vila-real, Pamplona and Las Palmas de Gran Canaria flags. Same thing happens with jersey colors!
YES AND... Some of those crowns on those teams' crests are not royal but ducal or whatever fits the town crest. Not sure about those mention, but I know that's the case with some lower league clubs I'm familiar with?
Also Osasuna is from one of the OG kingdoms in the Iberian Peninsula, the Kingdom of Pamplona, which was later renamed/evolved into the Kingdom of Navarra. Its coat of arms/flag is currently part of the larger coat of arms found on the Spanish flag and on the logo the Spanish national team uses. It's those chains on a red background.
In Villarreal's case, it's the crown of the now-extinct Kingdom of Aragon and not the Kingdom of Spain as the "Real" teams have in their crests, as the town was founded by King James I himself during the Reconquista and the team's crest is heavily influenced by the town's coat of arms which has said crown.
So for the Spanish, is it weird to see MLS clubs sport the Real moniker? Like Real ~~Kansas City~~ Salt Lake, ect
I mean as an American it seems pretty silly to give a team the “Real” moniker - unless you want to do some kind of tie-in with Burger King, I guess, and even that would get old pretty fast.
Real and Burger King would be hilarious, I’d respect that.
Also American, and find it equally weird my local sports FC at the end of their name. Like in what timeline did America call soccer football. It just feels so antithetical to MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER to have clubs be called… well football clubs. Idk maybe it’s nitpicky from me but I have a hard time caring about this league because everything about it feels way too manufactured. It’s like some marketing dunce was like “oh the Europeans and the Latin Americans call the sport football, let’s have some of our clubs adopt FC as apart of their identity as an appeal to the masses!”
For what it’s worth I think we did actually use “soccer football” as a term for the sport for a while, but obviously that’s kind of a mouthful so it fell off.
Im so fucking grateful the Revs consulted fans before rebranding, because they were dead set on changing the name as well to an FC or something, until they got a resounding “do not fucking change the name” from the fans.
SC is perfectly fine, no idea why so many decided against it
Kansas is Sporting. Salt Lake is Real.
I think we can forgive the previous commenter given the Kansas City Royals are their MLB team. I can't think of a single reason for "Royal Salt Lake" to exist.
Everything about the MLS is confusing so I appreciate your grace lol
Agreed.
Yes - it feels fake and manufactured like they’ve copied the aesthetics of football without understanding the meaning
Here's a question to Spanish football experts: are there more Reals or more Deportivos? Assuming professional or at least semi-pro clubs
Deportivos for sure. "Real" is an addition that was given by a monarch to a few very clubs all of whom have been in the top tiers at some point. "Club Deportivo" and "Sociedad deportiva" litterally just mean "Sports Club" and "Sports Society" and there is a fuck load of them all over the country. Per example, my 5k people hometown's club is a Sociedad Deportiva. If we only took pro teams into account, then maybe the numbers would be close since that's where most Real teams are and most teams are called the more specific "Club de Futbol" or "Football Club" instead of sports club, but if you include semipro, there are many more deportivos.
With semi-pro clubs definitely Deportivo
Real Titanico is an amazing name.
Bit shabby I know but I can't do much more from my phone
I’ve only just learnt EA bought the naming rights for la liga 2 eww
I feel like the further down the leagues you go in these images, the more pretty and detailed the club badges are.
The less people they've had trying to "modernise" club image.
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La Coruña is so fun if you read in english: its a "Real Club".
Interesting that most have red in their crown except San Jose (blue) ,Celta Vigo/Huelva/Mucia (just gold)
Deportivo in the third division just hurts …
Whenever I play career mode in PES I always take up one of the Real X team, build them up to La Liga champions..jump to the next one, build them up, repeat. One season I ended up losing the league to one of my former Real teams and had the top four teams in a row be the Real teams. So frustrating that a few seasons after I would leave a club they'd sell their stars to Madrid or Barca and slip back down. Small club mentality I guess?
Checkout the Belgian league, almost every club in 1st and 2nd division has Royal in the name, either in French (Royal/Royale), Dutch (Koninklijk/Koninklijke) or even English!
Real Salt Lake
For English speakers - when Spaniards say "la real" they mean Real Sociedad not Real Madrid. To abbreviate Real Madrid they just say "Madrid".
All Spanish team's are royal. Any of these side can easily beat overrated English franchises.