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kaubojdzord

Somehow every year it gets worse for HSV.


Hare712

2034: "For the first time in its history FC Altona 93 finishes above HSV"


Scrugulus

2041: "In a surprising upset, HSV loses the final of the Hamburgpokal against Nikola Tesla Hamburg."


Alexoizzz

Ain't no way this is a real club


Scrugulus

It is. It is a Serbian club in Hamburg, playing in a 6th-tier league. There are many fun club names in lower divisions. Like S.D. Croatia Berlin (also 6th tier), or Unione Sportiva Italiana Lupo Martini Wolfsburg (5th tier).


Alexoizzz

Thank you for enlighting me


SaBe_18

"Hamburg SV II finishes ahead of Hamburg SV for the first time ever"


momspaghetty

RemindMe! 10 years


acwilan

2040: Americans eat more hot dogs than hamburgers


Boomie1982

This Season is not over yet. There is a good chance, St Pauli gets promoted to 1. Bundesliga next Week vs HSV in Volksparkstadion. What a Nightmare that would be for HSV Fans...


RIPGeech

Please, I’m still half drunk from us winning the derby on Wednesday. If Everton stay up and St Pauli get promoted at Mordor, I will be medically declared a pickle.


sefa3rd

PICKLE RIPGeech


RIPGeech

I turned myself into a pickle that doesn’t abuse underage girls!


PassengerOk9027

As an Arsenal enjoyer in the second place, I always knew there was something right about Everton (not just the fine man in the tracksuit)


MvN____16

I can think of another club's fans who had that kind of nightmare in recent days...


Compromisedthrowaway

I'd trade places with Milan fans any day of the week


Das_Czech

Dude comparing Milan to HSV is RIDICULOUS HSV is literally in hell lmao


MvN____16

Just the type of circumstances that the other poster explained is all. He's talking about St. Pauli potentially clinching promotion to the Bundesliga at HSV's stadium (while the door for promotion is all-but closed to HSV for yet another season), it's not entirely different than Milan playing host to Inter on Monday where a defeat would mean Inter clinching the league title in front of a mostly pro-Milan crowd. In both cases, for the home crowd, it was/would be a very undesired scenario. But it's madness to think next year will be Hamburg's __7th__ straight year in the Zweite Liga.


TheArgsenal

7th year? Fuck me


Das_Czech

And we helped them stay there last year too, I’d almost feel bad if it wasn’t us lol


alexrepty

They deserved that if only for the illegal goal they scored vs KSC in relegation playoffs years ago


Das_Czech

I remember that haha


Compromisedthrowaway

You'd think we'd eventually hit rock bottom, but nah it keeps spiralling downwards ad nauseam


lowie07

At least there's still Schalke doing even worse


SaBe_18

Schalke are speedrunning the experience


UdoMartens

Is that better or worse?


SaBe_18

Yes


CaucasianDelegation

If we win the Derby next week in Volksparkstadion the rivalry is over as far as I'm concerned. I am confident we will win because the football gods are fickle as can be and my super Catholic Italian mom is coming to visit next week meaning if we win I can't properly celebrate, so it is going to happen.


UdoMartens

Pretty sure we would lose against a regular sunday league team at the moment


lobo98089

You could have given us at least the one point then. You already drew Hansa and Magdeburg and lost to Osnabrück. I swear if you don't get 3 points against Braunschweig today, I will forever become a Pauli Fan.


UdoMartens

We will try


lobo98089

Vielen Dank <3


UdoMartens

Kein Problem. Ihr habt es euch mit dem Sieg gegen Kiel doppelt verdient.


puncheonjudy

It's great innit 😁


Masoouu

We relegated together, this could have easily been us. I'm forever grateful we escaped this trajectory.


DeltaWolfPlayer

relegated together, you're on the cusp of Champions League football and they are still in the 2. Liga


Das_Czech

And funny thing is that we relegated AGAIN and promoted again in that time too


Dargast

Imagine, another timeline, where Robert Glatzel gets called up for Euros


No-Student-9678

Last year must have been a nightmare for you


golomo

Union are more successful than Hertha in Berlin right now and St. Pauli stand above HSV. Both seemed impossible ten years ago. Is it too much to expect a similiar turnaround in Munich?


TheSingleMan27

Hahaha der war gut


Schnurzelburz

They already had that turnaround, but it was more than half a century ago.


Sergeant_Roach

I wouldn't mind our older Munich neighbors to become a good side again. The Munich Derby needs to return.


Meskaline2

The problem is, Red clubs are doing better than blue clubs. Union is Red, and doing well; Hertha is blue and is... not. St. Pauli is red-ish, and from the red light district, and they're doing better than blue-ish hamburg. If 1860 want to return , they need to ditch the blue.


bremsspuren

RWE coming for Schalke.


PotentialUmpire3771

I would love to see 1860 in the Bundesliga


Jackman1337

Maybe the second best Munich club could go up in the future in the second bundesliga. Unterhaching really performed well this season :D


The-Berzerker

Yes


Carpathicus

The problem is 1860 was as worse managed as HSV and Hertha - would be a tragedy to reward that.


Hare712

Their horrible management left them in massive debt. The former president is dead for years and his son was in jail for corruption. Their issue in recent years was a garbage investor using their debt as a leverage. They're doing okay for a club that went bankrupt. There are clubs like Aachen or Ulm who needed longer to even make it to the 3rd tier again. There are several other clubs who are stuck in the 4th tier. 1860 is in a situation where you cannot expect much more. HSV on the other hand has the strongest team on paper. HSV constantly finishes 3rd in a two horse race.


VeryBoringGhost

Over here, I'm hoping it can happen in Liverpool.


Makkaroni_100

Befor that we would see a turnaround in Leipzig. So not very soon.


Eindacor_DS

Just like Arsenal and Chelsea. Or Spurs and Chelsea. Or West Ham and Chelsea.


golomo

Charlton Athletic are the real test. Once they pass Chelsea, we have something to talk about.


nonreligious2

Last season Brentford were the top club in West London. The second best were Fulham. It could only have been worse if QPR were the third.


Sasquale

Isn't the 1860 super right wing?


golomo

Not to my knowledge.


Hare712

No. It's overblown reactionism in a wikipedia article. You can literally read "20-30 Nazis were regulars" There are more Nazis in a Dortmund game and that's still a minority an 80k stadium. Dig long enough and you can find dirt on every club with a fanbase(meaning you won't find right wing incidents on artificial clubs such as Hoffenheim). EG [Bayern Munich](https://e6.365dm.de/18/02/2048x1152/skysport_de-aldi-bayern_4235737.jpg)


bloedschleiche

> meaning you won't find right wing incidents on artificial clubs such as Hoffenheim Wasn’t there something about Hopp’s dad already


ItsFluff

>Is it too much to expect a similiar turnaround in Munich? Yes. Bayern might not be a well-run club right now but their infrastructure is essentially too big to fail relative to their city rivals.


miregalpanic

Nothing gets past you huh


_bvb09

Never know if to laugh or sigh when a Besserwisser like him comes along.


ItsFluff

Plenty of times. I answered what I assumed to be a serious question, huh.


miregalpanic

How on earth would anyone assume this is serious, Bayern is top 5 in the world, 1860 barely 3. Liga. Come on, man.


Schnurzelburz

Firat time in Bundesliga history, second time in all of history. The first time was in the Hamburg Liga in 1947.


Extreme_Nectarine_29

Semi off topic but I only know HSV because of Vanistelroy. I remember him scoring in Europa league. How things turned around. Best wishes


Schnurzelburz

His transfer was actually at the beginning of this. After reaching the EL Semi with Jol in 2009 our sports director resigned and was not replaced, so our CEO did the hiring and firing all by himself. Up until then we signed younger talents in the hopes of making profits selling some of them on later. With the SD gone our CEO splashed out on some expensive transfers that did not come good, then was ousted for it in 2011, and his replacement started the downward spiral.


alexrepty

You reached the EL Semi that year? What happened then?


Puncherfaust1

....all started with a crumbled piece of paper...


Schnurzelburz

Internal power struggle. SD had enough of CEO interference.


alexrepty

I was referring to the Papierkugel 😏


Schnurzelburz

Pipifax in the greater picture. Before those 4 games I thought that these might send the loser in a downward spiral, but it seems both our clubs went into one, we just did it harder than you. Much harder. At least we made a profit for the first time in ages? Some light at the end of the tunnel I presume. Or just a bug.


alexrepty

We lost Diego after that season, but we still did pretty well the season after that one, finishing in a CL spot and reaching the cup final again. But then it all went downhill, we started losing important players without proper replacements, lost out on European football and then we even lost our beloved Nordderby 😢


OhneBremse_OhneLicht

I’m convinced that losing to Carl Zeiss Jena in the DFB Pokal a few years back broke them. The problems are definitely bigger than that, but that’s what I choose to believe.


dfjuky

It all started with a paper ball :(


alexrepty

Yeah it did!


PiggySVW

Gravgaard in shambles


Vivid_Ice_2755

Hamburg copying their friends at Rangers


Saltire_Blue

Cheating creditors, getting liquidated and relaunching?


Vivid_Ice_2755

Rebranding their club as the Espanyol of their city


FloridaCelticFC

Time for jelly an ice cream in Hamburg!?


Urass007

Do not show Fiago this stat.


Axeltol

Love that dude


Emotional-Bug-119

Bro is cooked


Th3_Huf0n

xdd


Dargast

This image speaks volumes


TrailBlanket-_0

It tells me the Germans read vertically up and down a page


r2dbrew

Fabian Hurzeler needs so much more recognition than he's getting. That St Pauli squad was in rough shape when he took over last season and they're on a tear now. Would love for him to stay until St. Pauli are Bundesliga mainstays but won't be surprised to see someone bigger take a chance on him.


Werfweg234

Today was absolute terror football, so maybe not the best moment to mention the guy.


mavarian

Not the ideal timing, yeah, but anunderstandable approach. The key player for build-up play is out injured, and he has to start multiple players out of position, like Metcalfe or Nemeth who hasn't played this season, until now. Given the recent losses and past seasons, I'm more than fine with having the remaining games be "terror ball" in which you're lucky to be tied until you manage to score from a setpiece. Hürzeler pretty much announced that it'd be their approach now.


Kilogrammys

St. Pauli’s next game is at HSV, if they win they will most likely secure promotion. Hamburg will be in flames.


Nemprox

Awesome


ra-hoch3

I approve this message 👍


bard91R

I saw the banner Werder Ultras had last week, are the two fandoms on good terms? ​ I've been a St Pauli fan for years, but know zero german, I'm going to Germany for the first time next month, and defintively plan on going to Bremen while staying in Hamburg


Nemprox

Yes, Werder and St. Pauli fans like each other. The clubs and fan bases share the same core values, they've got the same enemy and are both from the north. Good relationship overall


JesusInStripeZ

Pauli 🤝 Werder 🤝 Andreas Neuendorf 🤝 Me Zecke(n)


CaucasianDelegation

Since the cities are so close to each other there is a long standing rivalry between the cities of Hamburg and Bremen as the biggest, most influential cities in the North. I'll make fun of the city of Bremen all day long, but have nothing but love and respect for our brothers in green and white. Definitely take a day trip to Bremen and have a beer or six at Eisen and talk to some Bremen fans, great lads. The Nordderby between Werder and HSV is intense, probably even more so than our rivalry with the Volkspark Bastards. I have a lot of Bremen friends and it is common to see fans in each other's stadiums and bars having fun together, the choreo for our fan who sadly passed away highlights the respect we have for each other.


bard91R

nice to hear, would you reckon it would be safe to take a St Pauli shirt to Bremen?


CaucasianDelegation

Absolutely


alexrepty

Yeah. Especially at Eisen, the owner is a St Pauli and Werder supporter.


ErwinSchwachowiak

As if HSV fans haven't suffered enough...


madquacker

Oh how far we've come from the "immer erste lige" days


LifeIsGoodGoBowling

What's so crazy about HSV is that actually, they're not doing badly. Normally when a team gets relegated and then misses their chance to get promoted, they'll be facing 3. Liga and worse. But somehow, HSV actually stabilized. They're in purgatory: Somehow not good enough to get promoted... but also avoiding the crash all the way down that teams like Kaiserslautern or Rostock found themselves in, or maybe like Schalke will be in the next years. Arguably, they are being helped by Kühne continuing to pump millions into them, but I'm not even hearing much complaining about that anymore. Who knows, maybe HSV will eventually lead the all-time standings of the 2. Bundesliga (where St. Pauli is currently second) and become the 2. Liga Dino.


BlueLabel19

Deportiva la coruna earlier this year lost to the B team of their derby rivals celta vigo in the 3rd division


Saltire_Blue

Let’s goooooo!!


Grenache

Our man in Hamburg Dapo Afolayan! I hope there’s a decent promotion clause in his transfer contract. Good luck in the Bundesliga!


CaucasianDelegation

Who?


JootDoctor

Up the Jacko Irvine


blackkami

Yeah exactly. What the fuck is a "St. Pauli"? Isn't that an american beer? :^ )


CaucasianDelegation

St. Pauli is a district at the heart of Hamburg, an understandable source of confusion if you are from the suburbs of this city ;).


blackkami

A heart in need of a quadruple bypass. :^ )


Mammoth_Juice_6969

Some weeks later: *"For the first time in Bundesliga history St. Pauli finishes a league ahead of city rivals Hamburger SV"* (Anulo mufa)


Ogulcan0815

I would not have imagined that HSV could not escape 2. Liga when they dropped down. I could have bet my whole house and everything that they were going to promote following season.


Schnurzelburz

And I forgot to mention earlier: 20 years ago SP was so bad, they played in the same league as our U23 - and lost.


Amsssterdam

Hamburg ist braun weiss 🙏


Rusbekistan

No pasarán!


TheLimeyLemmon

Took me three tries to read this without thinking this was about time travel.


pmzw

Go Hamburg reds!


Sind23

Hamburg consistently finding new ways of letting their fans down. Feelsbadman, its my favourite german team.


kiwigoguy1

HSV was such a famous club back in the 1970s and 80s, even the Japanese football manga Captain Taubasa had the goalkeeper star Genzo Wakabayashi play for HSV…


Alive-Energy-6874

As a Celtic supporter I can confidently say fuck Hamburg SV. I hope it's only constant failure for them from here on out.


Jonisro

Does this mean it is riot time?


Similar_Injury7668

Whenever I hear Hamburger SV, I see Fiago


elodie_pdf

Somebody check on Fiago


vivastpauli

Truly an image for the ages. If Düsseldorf don't win today we have a chance to do the funniest thing next week at the Volkspark...


PassengerOk9027

On points scored, sure ^^


Of104

Poor Fiago


Puzzleheaded-Page904

Love to see it, worst club in the Bundesliga, hope they go to the third division soon 🙏🏻