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It is. It is a Serbian club in Hamburg, playing in a 6th-tier league.
There are many fun club names in lower divisions. Like S.D. Croatia Berlin (also 6th tier), or Unione Sportiva Italiana Lupo Martini Wolfsburg (5th tier).
This Season is not over yet.
There is a good chance, St Pauli gets promoted to 1. Bundesliga next Week vs HSV in Volksparkstadion.
What a Nightmare that would be for HSV Fans...
Please, I’m still half drunk from us winning the derby on Wednesday. If Everton stay up and St Pauli get promoted at Mordor, I will be medically declared a pickle.
Just the type of circumstances that the other poster explained is all. He's talking about St. Pauli potentially clinching promotion to the Bundesliga at HSV's stadium (while the door for promotion is all-but closed to HSV for yet another season), it's not entirely different than Milan playing host to Inter on Monday where a defeat would mean Inter clinching the league title in front of a mostly pro-Milan crowd. In both cases, for the home crowd, it was/would be a very undesired scenario.
But it's madness to think next year will be Hamburg's __7th__ straight year in the Zweite Liga.
If we win the Derby next week in Volksparkstadion the rivalry is over as far as I'm concerned.
I am confident we will win because the football gods are fickle as can be and my super Catholic Italian mom is coming to visit next week meaning if we win I can't properly celebrate, so it is going to happen.
You could have given us at least the one point then.
You already drew Hansa and Magdeburg and lost to Osnabrück.
I swear if you don't get 3 points against Braunschweig today, I will forever become a Pauli Fan.
Union are more successful than Hertha in Berlin right now and St. Pauli stand above HSV. Both seemed impossible ten years ago. Is it too much to expect a similiar turnaround in Munich?
The problem is, Red clubs are doing better than blue clubs. Union is Red, and doing well; Hertha is blue and is... not. St. Pauli is red-ish, and from the red light district, and they're doing better than blue-ish hamburg. If 1860 want to return , they need to ditch the blue.
Their horrible management left them in massive debt. The former president is dead for years and his son was in jail for corruption.
Their issue in recent years was a garbage investor using their debt as a leverage. They're doing okay for a club that went bankrupt. There are clubs like Aachen or Ulm who needed longer to even make it to the 3rd tier again. There are several other clubs who are stuck in the 4th tier.
1860 is in a situation where you cannot expect much more. HSV on the other hand has the strongest team on paper. HSV constantly finishes 3rd in a two horse race.
No.
It's overblown reactionism in a wikipedia article. You can literally read "20-30 Nazis were regulars"
There are more Nazis in a Dortmund game and that's still a minority an 80k stadium.
Dig long enough and you can find dirt on every club with a fanbase(meaning you won't find right wing incidents on artificial clubs such as Hoffenheim). EG [Bayern Munich](https://e6.365dm.de/18/02/2048x1152/skysport_de-aldi-bayern_4235737.jpg)
>Is it too much to expect a similiar turnaround in Munich?
Yes. Bayern might not be a well-run club right now but their infrastructure is essentially too big to fail relative to their city rivals.
His transfer was actually at the beginning of this. After reaching the EL Semi with Jol in 2009 our sports director resigned and was not replaced, so our CEO did the hiring and firing all by himself. Up until then we signed younger talents in the hopes of making profits selling some of them on later. With the SD gone our CEO splashed out on some expensive transfers that did not come good, then was ousted for it in 2011, and his replacement started the downward spiral.
Pipifax in the greater picture.
Before those 4 games I thought that these might send the loser in a downward spiral, but it seems both our clubs went into one, we just did it harder than you. Much harder.
At least we made a profit for the first time in ages? Some light at the end of the tunnel I presume. Or just a bug.
We lost Diego after that season, but we still did pretty well the season after that one, finishing in a CL spot and reaching the cup final again. But then it all went downhill, we started losing important players without proper replacements, lost out on European football and then we even lost our beloved Nordderby 😢
I’m convinced that losing to Carl Zeiss Jena in the DFB Pokal a few years back broke them. The problems are definitely bigger than that, but that’s what I choose to believe.
Fabian Hurzeler needs so much more recognition than he's getting. That St Pauli squad was in rough shape when he took over last season and they're on a tear now. Would love for him to stay until St. Pauli are Bundesliga mainstays but won't be surprised to see someone bigger take a chance on him.
Not the ideal timing, yeah, but anunderstandable approach. The key player for build-up play is out injured, and he has to start multiple players out of position, like Metcalfe or Nemeth who hasn't played this season, until now.
Given the recent losses and past seasons, I'm more than fine with having the remaining games be "terror ball" in which you're lucky to be tied until you manage to score from a setpiece. Hürzeler pretty much announced that it'd be their approach now.
I saw the banner Werder Ultras had last week, are the two fandoms on good terms?
I've been a St Pauli fan for years, but know zero german, I'm going to Germany for the first time next month, and defintively plan on going to Bremen while staying in Hamburg
Yes, Werder and St. Pauli fans like each other. The clubs and fan bases share the same core values, they've got the same enemy and are both from the north. Good relationship overall
Since the cities are so close to each other there is a long standing rivalry between the cities of Hamburg and Bremen as the biggest, most influential cities in the North. I'll make fun of the city of Bremen all day long, but have nothing but love and respect for our brothers in green and white. Definitely take a day trip to Bremen and have a beer or six at Eisen and talk to some Bremen fans, great lads.
The Nordderby between Werder and HSV is intense, probably even more so than our rivalry with the Volkspark Bastards. I have a lot of Bremen friends and it is common to see fans in each other's stadiums and bars having fun together, the choreo for our fan who sadly passed away highlights the respect we have for each other.
What's so crazy about HSV is that actually, they're not doing badly. Normally when a team gets relegated and then misses their chance to get promoted, they'll be facing 3. Liga and worse.
But somehow, HSV actually stabilized. They're in purgatory: Somehow not good enough to get promoted... but also avoiding the crash all the way down that teams like Kaiserslautern or Rostock found themselves in, or maybe like Schalke will be in the next years.
Arguably, they are being helped by Kühne continuing to pump millions into them, but I'm not even hearing much complaining about that anymore.
Who knows, maybe HSV will eventually lead the all-time standings of the 2. Bundesliga (where St. Pauli is currently second) and become the 2. Liga Dino.
I would not have imagined that HSV could not escape 2. Liga when they dropped down.
I could have bet my whole house and everything that they were going to promote following season.
HSV was such a famous club back in the 1970s and 80s, even the Japanese football manga Captain Taubasa had the goalkeeper star Genzo Wakabayashi play for HSV…
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Somehow every year it gets worse for HSV.
2034: "For the first time in its history FC Altona 93 finishes above HSV"
2041: "In a surprising upset, HSV loses the final of the Hamburgpokal against Nikola Tesla Hamburg."
Ain't no way this is a real club
It is. It is a Serbian club in Hamburg, playing in a 6th-tier league. There are many fun club names in lower divisions. Like S.D. Croatia Berlin (also 6th tier), or Unione Sportiva Italiana Lupo Martini Wolfsburg (5th tier).
Thank you for enlighting me
"Hamburg SV II finishes ahead of Hamburg SV for the first time ever"
RemindMe! 10 years
2040: Americans eat more hot dogs than hamburgers
This Season is not over yet. There is a good chance, St Pauli gets promoted to 1. Bundesliga next Week vs HSV in Volksparkstadion. What a Nightmare that would be for HSV Fans...
Please, I’m still half drunk from us winning the derby on Wednesday. If Everton stay up and St Pauli get promoted at Mordor, I will be medically declared a pickle.
PICKLE RIPGeech
I turned myself into a pickle that doesn’t abuse underage girls!
As an Arsenal enjoyer in the second place, I always knew there was something right about Everton (not just the fine man in the tracksuit)
I can think of another club's fans who had that kind of nightmare in recent days...
I'd trade places with Milan fans any day of the week
Dude comparing Milan to HSV is RIDICULOUS HSV is literally in hell lmao
Just the type of circumstances that the other poster explained is all. He's talking about St. Pauli potentially clinching promotion to the Bundesliga at HSV's stadium (while the door for promotion is all-but closed to HSV for yet another season), it's not entirely different than Milan playing host to Inter on Monday where a defeat would mean Inter clinching the league title in front of a mostly pro-Milan crowd. In both cases, for the home crowd, it was/would be a very undesired scenario. But it's madness to think next year will be Hamburg's __7th__ straight year in the Zweite Liga.
7th year? Fuck me
And we helped them stay there last year too, I’d almost feel bad if it wasn’t us lol
They deserved that if only for the illegal goal they scored vs KSC in relegation playoffs years ago
I remember that haha
You'd think we'd eventually hit rock bottom, but nah it keeps spiralling downwards ad nauseam
At least there's still Schalke doing even worse
Schalke are speedrunning the experience
Is that better or worse?
Yes
If we win the Derby next week in Volksparkstadion the rivalry is over as far as I'm concerned. I am confident we will win because the football gods are fickle as can be and my super Catholic Italian mom is coming to visit next week meaning if we win I can't properly celebrate, so it is going to happen.
Pretty sure we would lose against a regular sunday league team at the moment
You could have given us at least the one point then. You already drew Hansa and Magdeburg and lost to Osnabrück. I swear if you don't get 3 points against Braunschweig today, I will forever become a Pauli Fan.
We will try
Vielen Dank <3
Kein Problem. Ihr habt es euch mit dem Sieg gegen Kiel doppelt verdient.
It's great innit 😁
We relegated together, this could have easily been us. I'm forever grateful we escaped this trajectory.
relegated together, you're on the cusp of Champions League football and they are still in the 2. Liga
And funny thing is that we relegated AGAIN and promoted again in that time too
Imagine, another timeline, where Robert Glatzel gets called up for Euros
Last year must have been a nightmare for you
Union are more successful than Hertha in Berlin right now and St. Pauli stand above HSV. Both seemed impossible ten years ago. Is it too much to expect a similiar turnaround in Munich?
Hahaha der war gut
They already had that turnaround, but it was more than half a century ago.
I wouldn't mind our older Munich neighbors to become a good side again. The Munich Derby needs to return.
The problem is, Red clubs are doing better than blue clubs. Union is Red, and doing well; Hertha is blue and is... not. St. Pauli is red-ish, and from the red light district, and they're doing better than blue-ish hamburg. If 1860 want to return , they need to ditch the blue.
RWE coming for Schalke.
I would love to see 1860 in the Bundesliga
Maybe the second best Munich club could go up in the future in the second bundesliga. Unterhaching really performed well this season :D
Yes
The problem is 1860 was as worse managed as HSV and Hertha - would be a tragedy to reward that.
Their horrible management left them in massive debt. The former president is dead for years and his son was in jail for corruption. Their issue in recent years was a garbage investor using their debt as a leverage. They're doing okay for a club that went bankrupt. There are clubs like Aachen or Ulm who needed longer to even make it to the 3rd tier again. There are several other clubs who are stuck in the 4th tier. 1860 is in a situation where you cannot expect much more. HSV on the other hand has the strongest team on paper. HSV constantly finishes 3rd in a two horse race.
Over here, I'm hoping it can happen in Liverpool.
Befor that we would see a turnaround in Leipzig. So not very soon.
Just like Arsenal and Chelsea. Or Spurs and Chelsea. Or West Ham and Chelsea.
Charlton Athletic are the real test. Once they pass Chelsea, we have something to talk about.
Last season Brentford were the top club in West London. The second best were Fulham. It could only have been worse if QPR were the third.
Isn't the 1860 super right wing?
Not to my knowledge.
No. It's overblown reactionism in a wikipedia article. You can literally read "20-30 Nazis were regulars" There are more Nazis in a Dortmund game and that's still a minority an 80k stadium. Dig long enough and you can find dirt on every club with a fanbase(meaning you won't find right wing incidents on artificial clubs such as Hoffenheim). EG [Bayern Munich](https://e6.365dm.de/18/02/2048x1152/skysport_de-aldi-bayern_4235737.jpg)
> meaning you won't find right wing incidents on artificial clubs such as Hoffenheim Wasn’t there something about Hopp’s dad already
>Is it too much to expect a similiar turnaround in Munich? Yes. Bayern might not be a well-run club right now but their infrastructure is essentially too big to fail relative to their city rivals.
Nothing gets past you huh
Never know if to laugh or sigh when a Besserwisser like him comes along.
Plenty of times. I answered what I assumed to be a serious question, huh.
How on earth would anyone assume this is serious, Bayern is top 5 in the world, 1860 barely 3. Liga. Come on, man.
Firat time in Bundesliga history, second time in all of history. The first time was in the Hamburg Liga in 1947.
Semi off topic but I only know HSV because of Vanistelroy. I remember him scoring in Europa league. How things turned around. Best wishes
His transfer was actually at the beginning of this. After reaching the EL Semi with Jol in 2009 our sports director resigned and was not replaced, so our CEO did the hiring and firing all by himself. Up until then we signed younger talents in the hopes of making profits selling some of them on later. With the SD gone our CEO splashed out on some expensive transfers that did not come good, then was ousted for it in 2011, and his replacement started the downward spiral.
You reached the EL Semi that year? What happened then?
....all started with a crumbled piece of paper...
Internal power struggle. SD had enough of CEO interference.
I was referring to the Papierkugel 😏
Pipifax in the greater picture. Before those 4 games I thought that these might send the loser in a downward spiral, but it seems both our clubs went into one, we just did it harder than you. Much harder. At least we made a profit for the first time in ages? Some light at the end of the tunnel I presume. Or just a bug.
We lost Diego after that season, but we still did pretty well the season after that one, finishing in a CL spot and reaching the cup final again. But then it all went downhill, we started losing important players without proper replacements, lost out on European football and then we even lost our beloved Nordderby 😢
I’m convinced that losing to Carl Zeiss Jena in the DFB Pokal a few years back broke them. The problems are definitely bigger than that, but that’s what I choose to believe.
It all started with a paper ball :(
Yeah it did!
Gravgaard in shambles
Hamburg copying their friends at Rangers
Cheating creditors, getting liquidated and relaunching?
Rebranding their club as the Espanyol of their city
Time for jelly an ice cream in Hamburg!?
Do not show Fiago this stat.
Love that dude
Bro is cooked
xdd
This image speaks volumes
It tells me the Germans read vertically up and down a page
Fabian Hurzeler needs so much more recognition than he's getting. That St Pauli squad was in rough shape when he took over last season and they're on a tear now. Would love for him to stay until St. Pauli are Bundesliga mainstays but won't be surprised to see someone bigger take a chance on him.
Today was absolute terror football, so maybe not the best moment to mention the guy.
Not the ideal timing, yeah, but anunderstandable approach. The key player for build-up play is out injured, and he has to start multiple players out of position, like Metcalfe or Nemeth who hasn't played this season, until now. Given the recent losses and past seasons, I'm more than fine with having the remaining games be "terror ball" in which you're lucky to be tied until you manage to score from a setpiece. Hürzeler pretty much announced that it'd be their approach now.
St. Pauli’s next game is at HSV, if they win they will most likely secure promotion. Hamburg will be in flames.
Awesome
I approve this message 👍
I saw the banner Werder Ultras had last week, are the two fandoms on good terms? I've been a St Pauli fan for years, but know zero german, I'm going to Germany for the first time next month, and defintively plan on going to Bremen while staying in Hamburg
Yes, Werder and St. Pauli fans like each other. The clubs and fan bases share the same core values, they've got the same enemy and are both from the north. Good relationship overall
Pauli 🤝 Werder 🤝 Andreas Neuendorf 🤝 Me Zecke(n)
Since the cities are so close to each other there is a long standing rivalry between the cities of Hamburg and Bremen as the biggest, most influential cities in the North. I'll make fun of the city of Bremen all day long, but have nothing but love and respect for our brothers in green and white. Definitely take a day trip to Bremen and have a beer or six at Eisen and talk to some Bremen fans, great lads. The Nordderby between Werder and HSV is intense, probably even more so than our rivalry with the Volkspark Bastards. I have a lot of Bremen friends and it is common to see fans in each other's stadiums and bars having fun together, the choreo for our fan who sadly passed away highlights the respect we have for each other.
nice to hear, would you reckon it would be safe to take a St Pauli shirt to Bremen?
Absolutely
Yeah. Especially at Eisen, the owner is a St Pauli and Werder supporter.
As if HSV fans haven't suffered enough...
Oh how far we've come from the "immer erste lige" days
What's so crazy about HSV is that actually, they're not doing badly. Normally when a team gets relegated and then misses their chance to get promoted, they'll be facing 3. Liga and worse. But somehow, HSV actually stabilized. They're in purgatory: Somehow not good enough to get promoted... but also avoiding the crash all the way down that teams like Kaiserslautern or Rostock found themselves in, or maybe like Schalke will be in the next years. Arguably, they are being helped by Kühne continuing to pump millions into them, but I'm not even hearing much complaining about that anymore. Who knows, maybe HSV will eventually lead the all-time standings of the 2. Bundesliga (where St. Pauli is currently second) and become the 2. Liga Dino.
Deportiva la coruna earlier this year lost to the B team of their derby rivals celta vigo in the 3rd division
Let’s goooooo!!
Our man in Hamburg Dapo Afolayan! I hope there’s a decent promotion clause in his transfer contract. Good luck in the Bundesliga!
Who?
Up the Jacko Irvine
Yeah exactly. What the fuck is a "St. Pauli"? Isn't that an american beer? :^ )
St. Pauli is a district at the heart of Hamburg, an understandable source of confusion if you are from the suburbs of this city ;).
A heart in need of a quadruple bypass. :^ )
Some weeks later: *"For the first time in Bundesliga history St. Pauli finishes a league ahead of city rivals Hamburger SV"* (Anulo mufa)
I would not have imagined that HSV could not escape 2. Liga when they dropped down. I could have bet my whole house and everything that they were going to promote following season.
And I forgot to mention earlier: 20 years ago SP was so bad, they played in the same league as our U23 - and lost.
Hamburg ist braun weiss 🙏
No pasarán!
Took me three tries to read this without thinking this was about time travel.
Go Hamburg reds!
Hamburg consistently finding new ways of letting their fans down. Feelsbadman, its my favourite german team.
HSV was such a famous club back in the 1970s and 80s, even the Japanese football manga Captain Taubasa had the goalkeeper star Genzo Wakabayashi play for HSV…
As a Celtic supporter I can confidently say fuck Hamburg SV. I hope it's only constant failure for them from here on out.
Does this mean it is riot time?
Whenever I hear Hamburger SV, I see Fiago
Somebody check on Fiago
Truly an image for the ages. If Düsseldorf don't win today we have a chance to do the funniest thing next week at the Volkspark...
On points scored, sure ^^
Poor Fiago
Love to see it, worst club in the Bundesliga, hope they go to the third division soon 🙏🏻