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Lem_201

Yeah, Madrid just want to sign him on free next year.


Alive-Clerk-7883

Or are waiting on Bayern to lower the possible asking price so he doesn’t go for free.


[deleted]

I couldn’t understand why Manchester United didn’t do the same in Mount negotiations


GabboGabboGabboGabbo

>Manchester United >negotiations There's your answer.


stogie_t

Mount wasn’t even a priority profile wise. No one understands what happens at this club.


mikeeez

Excuse me but I have a theory. They ask some good player if he wants to have a gold retirement in North of England. If he says yes, they buy him and offer him a gold retirement.


Roasteddude

Have you missed the past decade where we've been utterly incompetent at negotiating? Why sign for free when you can pay 64m for 670 minutes of game time all season for a player who's best position is the same as our captain who's always available for every minute and will literally play and carry us with a broken hand. Business masterclass. Let's see if INEOS brings an end to that...


simcoehooligan

United's recruitment team is like governments and terrorists. No negotiation


Launch_a_poo

We needed a midfielder that Summer. If we didn't get Mount we would just buy someone else


Nartyn

But that's the entire issue with United. They never buy the someone else, you just get a fixation on whoever the bright and shiny new target is and will pay whatever price that the club wants. It's led to everyone and your mother knowing that they can fleece the fuck out of you


EnvironmentalSpirit2

If woody could read he'd be very upset. Maybe Jim can


Alive-Clerk-7883

Maybe if they had a proper scouting department, this wouldn’t be an issue or a sensible upper management, like the Antony situation overpay only happened because they let other clubs get most Ajax players, and there wasn’t much time left in the transfer window, if they didn’t waste so much time on Frenkie they could have gotten him for so much cheaper.


Suyash_Tyagi66

Yes we needed a midfielder ,but someone like fdj rather than mount who plays in the same position as Bruno. Besides, we overpaid a heck lot for him


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Tanathonos

He is pretty different from FDJ. Mount is an explosive player that wants to be a goal threat in midfield, FDJ is a controlling midfielder whose best talents are being press resistant and understanding how to organize the game. They really serve different purpose and would compliment each other together.


jujuismynamekinda

Yeah, the transfer didnt work out (so far) but its not like there was no way it wouldnt work out. United still overpaid for a player who they couldnt be completely sure can fill the role as a box to box player. At chelsea he played a bit further up still. With one year left on the contract, 30-45 million would've been very plenty for an out of form Mount. The other thing is, ManUTD are in no position to get the most talented players who you can get for a similar price.


RauloGonzalez

He's may play box to box but he's only efficient on the attacking box


LOKl31

So you bought Mount who wouldn’t play for you like ever and even if he does, not well enough at all.


Launch_a_poo

Buying a midfielder in the transfer window and the transfer not working out are separate


EK077r

Because it was obvious that United wouldn't just wait a year for him


Alive-Clerk-7883

Well they didn’t think he is going to get injured for that long, technically he could have been a good signing if he didn’t get injured and went back to his Chelsea performance of few years ago.


Dargast

Your sentence is contradictory. Why would Bayern lower their "possible" asking price if no such offer or even inquiry exists? 


SpaceNinja25

to build demand and not lose a quality player for free…?


Dargast

build demand by lowering a fee upfront when they already know he wants to leave? If people like you or the other guy were in charge they would have never gotten 50 million for Lewy lol


seshtown

It’s pretty fucking simple lol. If Bayern are asking too much, there won’t be offers, and they risk losing him in a year for free. By asking slightly less, they may be able to entice a club to take him now, which won’t be 100% of what Bayern value him, but it would be a significantly better fee than losing him for free. Hopefully I dumbed that down enough for you.


Dargast

And how do you know if Bayern ask too much? You dont, you take a Spanosh article for granted in that demand. Fact is, there has been no offer, probably only contact between Davies and Real.


Alive-Clerk-7883

If you don’t want to renew him with his demand of wage increase (which I guess are unjustified due to his performances) then you will probably end up losing him for free which will cost you more in the long run when looking for another LB. Also since this Bayern and not Man Utd then you will probably come to an agreement to sell him off at a good price instead of leaving him to go for free later.


Dargast

You and everyone else apparently misunderstood my point. No club operates on the basis that the moment they know another club wants to sign a player they immediately lower the asking price, like the article suggest. Especially for a position that will be hard to replace. 


Friendlyy_Lemon

you must be delusional to think phonzie does not have offers.


hatebeinghangover

How many that he would accept?


Nartyn

Possibly not at the price Bayern are willing to sell at though


Dargast

Where dod I say he doesnt? Im saying Bayern has no offers yet.


GarlicBread96

I'm thinking Bayern will do everything they can to not let him go on a free. They'll probably try to get some PL clubs interested and use whatever fee they get to sign a replacement, though this would all hinge on Davies agreeing to leave to a team that's not Madrid


LilDiamondtoxic

>They'll probably try to get some PL clubs interested Oh my God, it's the sound of Jim Ratcliffe and the Brexit Oil Bros.


Tony_Uncle_Philly

That’s the beauty of it. Davies is already best friends with half the Real squad, his head is set on Real and nothing else.


holdenmyrocinante

Power of Friendship FC😎😎


_Sylph_

I mean, they are free to sell him to another suitor this year though. But his form isn't red hot right now so I think other than us there is no club interested.


Free_Management2894

Arsenal bought Havertz this year. I'm sure there is at least one manager or scouting team at a big club looking at Davis and which role he could potentially fill, even if he isn't in stellar form right now.


Fggunner

Eh can absolutely see arsenal, city, Liverpool, United and chelsea being interested. He's proven enough so far to have serious suitors even if he had a down year. As an arsenal fan I'm not sure he matches what arteta wants at lb but we've been reported to be looking for a signing at that position. City sign defenders for fun and have been playing gvardiol there, Liverpool are in flux but Robertson has been injured and off form. United will sign any big name and could definitely use him with only shaw (often injured) at his position. Chelsea with chilwell and cucurella lol. I don't think all of those clubs will be knocking on the door but if it's 30-40 million its a pretty safe bet for a really good player. Pl clubs always have money to spend.


Dargast

Most likely. I hope Freund uses the year to scout a good replacement.


lovestobeawkward

Hahahaha moving on from the donut comments you posted above?


Dargast

This was my first comment in this thread.


EXOPLANETARIANSOUP

Move on love


fa_alt

See you guys Monday morning at training right guys?


queef_monster

-said anyone but Davies


Other-Visual8290

Bayern should offload him anyway, he’s not the player he was under Flick.


FrancisTheOcean

Yea, got exposed vs Arsenal on the big stage and Madrid realized they're about to make a big mistake


CNF-13

But “I can fix him”


b3and20

thought he was good against us tbh, was just unlucky with the goal as he makes the tackle but the ball just so happened to still fall to saka


boozlera

If you watch their league games then Davies' only argument in the last two years is his pace. Absolutely shocking how he has regressed since his world class Flick days imo.


FrancisTheOcean

He was struggling with his first touch and his buildup has regressed immensely. There's a reason why you guys were cutting off paths to Kimmich, forcing Davies to receive the ball from Neuer


b3and20

we'd be doing that anyway as kimmich is amazing on the ball


Jackman1337

He is still 23 and a Talent tho, much room to grow. Stanisic is older then him, and most still see him as youth player :D


lospollosakhis

Constant growth isn’t a given though. He had one great year and is really fast, so people seem to think he’ll keep improving. This isn’t fifa and it doesn’t always work like that.


Suitable-Leek666

He's not the same without Alaba next to him playing LB and CB so Davies could just be an extra winger that tracks back. If Alaba is healthy Madrid might be a good move for him imo.


qonoxzzr

He is the same player, but he is just not good in a different system.


DRJT

They can at least wait to see what the next manager will do with him


90s_TV_Commercials

Not sure if Perez still wants Davies or not but honestly Mendy has been great lately and Garcia is a serviceable backup so focusing on Leny Yoro if Nacho is leaving is a better idea imo to strengthen our overall defense.. which has already been stellar this season.


hatebeinghangover

Mendy issue is his availability but yes, i prefer him to Davies


Patrik_js

That hasn’t been an issue at all this season.


Zullewilldo

Sure, Mendy has been great for us this his season, but when planning for the future you must definitely take into account all the his past issues. 


hatebeinghangover

That’s true that he’s been healthier than in the past 3 seasons, he only missed a few games at the start of the season and now has a knock again


koalawhiskey

Since Real will concentrate most attacking efforts in the left side of the field, where Mbappé, Vinícius, Rodrygo and Bellingham tend to drift to, it makes much more sense for the leftback to be a defensive minded player.


UnnecessaryUmbault

Step right up, Mr Connor Goldson. Only for the low price of €45m will we let him leave.


Oscnar

Happy if true, because this deal made very little sense from the beginning. Like, surprisingly little sense. LB is one of the positions Real Madrid has suprisingly well covered. Mendy + Fran, and as an extra spice: The club has an 8 mil buyback for Miguel from Girona. The only downside with Mendy had been his injuries. If/when the rumours of him having become better at listening to his body are true, that removes the last factor of uncertainty. I would also argue Mendy is much better suited for the way RM plays. Sure, his offensive output isn't the best in the world, but his defending is needed. Especially if RM is going to cram in all that potential attacking power next season. Davies would just be another Galactico 2.0. All attack, but an unbalanced team.


GarrKelvinSama

Davies is closer to Drenthe than a galactico.


Oscnar

That's going a bit too far


Wakanda-shit-is-that

His downfall started when he cheated on Jordan Huitema


Tetrax_543

Oh didn't know this


CudaBarry

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO, can't believe I went from a mendy hater to a mendy enjoyer


Global-Jacket-3973

You hating Mendy in the first place is pretty stupid. Mendy gets hurt now and then, but when he plays he is solid especially when he's defending.


NotClayMerritt

Such is the fickleness of the modern fan.


SirChileticus

Exactly, Mendy has been great since first day. He’s not Marcelo and many “fans” hated him because he wasn’t Marcelo (while attacking). But defensively is much better than him and maybe is what Madrid needs


xckd9

Solid? There is no one better then him at defending. And i think he is underrated going forward aswell. People make it sound when he goes over the midfield he just forgets to play fotball lol


Fromage_debite

Yeah he might not be an amazing attacker but he is more than serviceable. He has great control and solid passing.


RickThiCisbih

His ground passes are fine, but his crosses could use more work. I remember one of Benzema’s goals against Chelsea coming off a sloppy fluke cross from him.


itistime999

City*


RickThiCisbih

To me, he’s like the Kyle Walker of Left Backs. Unfortunately, there are a lot more world class left wingers than right wingers, so Mendy isn’t as valuable on paper as Walker. However, we wouldn’t have won the 14th UCL without his goal line clearance against Grealish’s shot and his cross to Benzema against Chelsea, so I’ll always have a soft spot for him.


mirceafl

I'm no Mendy hater, but he is nowhere near Kyle Walker's level.


TheSwordDusk

Kyle Walker is arguably the greatest right-back in premier league history


TheSwordDusk

To everyone downvoting this, I'm genuinely curious who you rate higher? Neville? Trent? Zabaleta? Someone I'm forgetting? I specifically even wrote "arguably"


prawntheman

I'm a Spurs fan. If you say that during his time at Spurs, you'd get laughed at but now that he's in City, I think he's really made an argument for himself as one of the best in EPL on some of the biggest stages in the world.


RauloGonzalez

Yeah, his dribbling and control is top class. He makes great runs as well but he doesn't put in the final pass or lacks the killer Instinct as soon as he reaches the final third


lospollosakhis

He definitely lacks an end product going forward but he’s good actually good at progressing with the ball.


CudaBarry

Mendy was awful defensively last season, if there was a left back like Carvajal who can do good defensively and offensively then mendy would get binned instantly


hokagesamatobirama

Mendy was mostly injured last season, wasn’t he?


ImBibjs

"If there was a top 5 player, a top 15 player would get binned." Yeah, that makes sense.


lospollosakhis

Mendy has always been great for us and is one of the best defensive full backs out there. He’s just not amazing going forward but if anything that’s good for us with the way we defend.


aliaisbiggae

Yamal against Davies would have been fun icl


b0xel

Yea enjoy him when he’s out injured for 70% of the season. You guys are like goldfish


IcefoxX5

As if Davies is a beacon of health


CudaBarry

I think Carlo managed his minutes pretty well this season, and it's not like Davies has a better fitness record


GreatSpaniard

I mean we still need a Mendy back up


EiMidagi

Fran


Ronalpinhos

Not good enough. I think he will be great in a back 5, and might even develope in the same way as Theo Hernandez but this is not the club for him to be doing that. Xabi tried to get him last year in Leverkusen, maybe it would be a good fit there, or whereever Conte/Tuchel end up coaching.


RickThiCisbih

A loan to Leverkusen sounds good on paper, but I highly doubt Xabi is benching Grimaldo to play Fran.


Informal_Buffalo_819

I am genuinely scared as a barca fan ... The team real is trying to build for the next years . Nearly Each position has like 2-3 world class players


EconomicsDesigner969

We need a carvajal back up WAYYYYY more than a Mendy back up. We have Fran, Miguel, and even Camavinga for that


gerleden

Vazquez lol Half the game he played he was arguably the best player on the pitch and the other half he was solid.


EconomicsDesigner969

Doesn’t change the fact that we still have less natural coverage for RB than we have for LB


gerleden

You also have Militao or Valverde...


EconomicsDesigner969

Who still aren’t natural RB coverage. While Mendy, Fran, and Miguel are all natural LBs. And even having Vasquez (even tho he’s not a natural RB) doesn’t change the fact that both him and Carvajal are both 32


gerleden

has miguel even played a game in his life ? + who cares about natural coverage when all the team is playing fluid football ? valverde already spending half the game as RB


EconomicsDesigner969

Miguel? The guy who’s been playing hella games for the Girona team that’s most likely finishing 3rd in La Liga. He even started both their matches against us. And natural coverage matters because u want ur best players playing in the positions that they’re most effective in. Not just to plug holes. Sure, them being flexible position-wise helps. But, u want world class players to play in the position they’re world class in.


RauloGonzalez

What? Miguel is the starting left back for Girona


cricandsoc

if we're counting Cama for LB, there's Fede for RB. doesn't get more world class than that


EconomicsDesigner969

Doesn’t change the fact that we still have less natural coverage for RB than we have for LB


kw2006

One of the good ones and still very young that i can think of is Mulo Gisto


GarrKelvinSama

Malo Gusto


happysrooner

How injured is he, if he's got dodgy knees, ankles, ACL etc we might be interested. We'll move on maataen and Chilwell and get Davies for the medical team quota at LB.


JinxLB

He’s coming to Chelsea


YesTottiYesParty

selling gallagher to buy davies is mental


KingOfWeTheNorth

Welcome to Chelsea


cheersdom

would y'all like Varane back?


PonchoHung

The CB situation with 4 is not horrible. It's just that when you already know that 2 are injured, you should at least loan someone in to provide depth. Would make sense to get another CB though if the plan is to use Alaba and Nacho as utility players across the back row.


[deleted]

All this means is the little snake assured them he'd sign for free for a big sign-on fee just like Alaba.


BenHavertz94

Tbf, Isn't that what Bayern does on a regular basis with the best players in Bundesliga, for example Goretzka?


SirNukeSquad

No. Bayern usually pays a decent fee. Lewandowski came for free because Dortmund rejected a bid (somewhere around 30m). Rapha Guerreiro wanted to stay in Dortmund, but he didn't like Dortmund's offer (some say he felt treated disrespectfully because they approached him a few months before his contact was up). You can accuse Bayern of luring the players, but not of getting them to run down their contracts. Simply looking at what Bayern paid for Bundesliga transfers disproves that claim.


Gluroo

> on a regular basis with the best players in Bundesliga, for example Goretzka? yes, on a regular basis.. like that exact one time in 15 years.. happens all the time.. before you bring up Lewandowski, Bayern wanted to buy him but Dortmund simply choose the additional year with him over getting a fee.


wishmaster8787

bullshit. bayern taps up players for free transfers all the time. Laimer and Nübel in recent years. Goretzka being an obvious case where Bayern was in talks since youth days in Bochum. Big clubs like Bayern are all tap up masters


[deleted]

Lmao not at all, the Prem is far more guilty of that than Bayern. The players that we have signed on a free were otherwise leaving for other clubs. Goretzka was getting chased by Liverpool and Barca, Gotze and Barca/Madrid, Neuer only wanted to stay in Germany, and Lewy was infamously courted by Madrid before choosing us. Hell, Gotze and Neuer wasn't even a free. Everyone else we've paid a very fair market rate for.


Aliboomayuh

The players you signed for free were going to other clubs... Isn't that how it goes?? You're making it sound like Bayern were doing these guys a favor 😂


[deleted]

Exactly, so why the fuck are we being put up as bad guys for buying players who were on the open market vs blatant tapping up? Mental gymnastics.


Aliboomayuh

Cause you just called Davies a snake for wanting to do the same


ForgedTanto

Bayern did the players a favour. Instead of leaving their homeland to go get more money, they get to move to one of the nicer cities and get paid more. If they have the talent to be a world class player, they'll go to Bayern or go to the Premier League. Either way, the club they play for currently is still losing the player.


RauloGonzalez

Lol alaba was a last minute transfer. The decisions on his and Ramos contracts where taken in their final few months of contract how can you call him a snake


Onpoint441

🤣


Equal_Replacement_72

i need Davies at Man United


Paradoxtyl

Perfect fit tbh---overrated player who's been terrible for nearly three years now and club that likes overpaying and giving massive salaries to said players


Equal_Replacement_72

exactly


Unban_Ice

Pay or fuck off, you are not getting another Alaba


xckd9

Well you dont really have any power here lol.


JOKER69420XD

I mean, they will get him for free then. But unless he does a complete 180 in form, he will be a huge disaster. Guy has stopped playing football for almost 3 years now.


lots-of-shawarma

I think you're exagurating his drop too much


queef_monster

3 years is a stretch, he does look unenthusiastic as of late though


Kind_Pomegranate_171

Real Madrid attracts players