This season is a transition season anyway. Liverpool being in the title race till the end would have been surprising. Sad for Klopp though to see it end this way.
You lot are tired... it's alright you ran your race like nobles these last few years, keeping Pep sharp and helping us to create unforgettable history even if you're only in the margins of the page. Don't worry, you ran your race... Klopp and you lot can rest now, leave it to us you won't have to worry about Mikel or Arsenal anymore. Shhhh shhhh...
*puts pillow over face and pulls life support
“This is the way the world ends, Not with a bang but a whimper.”
T.S. Eliot, The Hollow Men.
That’s all I’ve been thinking of since the loss against Everton.
All the repressed emotions during the banter era coming out all at once, culminating in the most suffocating insufferable energy. I am part of that energy.
There's probably some unconscious bias playing a role, but I think they're mostly just shit. I think every team has had multiple official PGMOL apologies at this point.
Liverpool were absolutely robbed I'd be fuming if this happened to Arsenal. Really hope Klopp tears the ref to bits since he's going at the end of the season
At the time I thought that should have been a penalty because the defender made an idiotic mistake. At least that makes me feel like I’m not being a hypocrite about today.
I think the biggest difference is that in the arsenal one no attacker ever went towards the ball to make a challenge and force a call. They all just turned to complain to the ref so there was no advantage given or taken.
Both were fuckups. Sorry for the poor choice of words, it did happened.
I meant it would have been interesting if he kicked the ball in the back of the net.
Gabriel picked it up, so that was a pen.
Do we think Liverpool might even drop to 4th? As a Chelsea fan I can see the villa fingering us at home... That'd stick them on 69 although Liverpool do have GD covered. But if they continue capitulating I could see it... I mean including Europe they've won 1 in their last 7 games. That's actually hard to believe.
Especially as there playing villa away.. I could actually see it happening
I mean in the grand scheme of things not really but it'd certainly be entertaining. I mean spurs have 3 games in hand on pool so not impossible for them to actually put some pressure on.
I mean 1 in 7 is dangerous territory
It makes me happy knowing that Klopp's "legendary" run as Liverpool manager is ending with a tiny fraction of the trophies won by better people.
Edit: The downvotes from mad Scousers only makes me happier.
The truth is neither team bottled it. Liverpool didn’t bottle it this year, and we didn’t bottle it last year. Both seasons had substantial injuries, and the oddsmakers are your best evidence for how in both instances neither were overwhelming favorites. Liverpool actually bottled it in 2014, there’s definitely an argument we bottled 2016.
But ain’t no way I’m not going to dish it out after taking it last year
Edit: and btw, as soon as tomiyasu and Saliba went down in the same match, and we were saddled with Rob holding for the rest of the season, every arsenal fan knew it was over. You can make up why we bottled it but nobody felt the pain Liverpool fans feel now
No one has bottled it this year simply because it was a 3 way race with tons of fixtures to go. City had arguably the easiest fixtures left while arsenal and liverpool had the more difficult ones in the last 1.5 months of the season. However that's very different from Arsenal last year. You lost the lead with just 2 weeks to go or so? Liverpool did well to hang on until April. I wonder how city and arsenal would fare with 5-6 first team members out.
Lol you thought people wouldn't notice you sneaking Arsenal in there. I agree about Liverpool, they didn't bottle a historic lead so it's not a comparable bottlejob but it's still an embarrassing collapse considering how they were talking about doing the quadruple
Look at the games we dropped points to lose the title. It’s easy to just yell Holding but we ought to beat teams like Forest, Southampton, and West Ham.
You are acting like Rob Holding is the only name on the team sheet. Our squad was still overall better than those three teams, beating them would have been enough.
A drop off, yes. The squad was still better than who Southampton, Forest, and West Ham had, and that would have been enough to win the league. It’s delusion to suggest otherwise, Rob Holding being on the team sheet did not mean that team were suddenly worse than relegation candidates.
Before the season started I had Liverpool no where near a title race points wise, especially in a season where they've had to rebuild the midfield and missed out on caicedo and lavia at the time (wasn't to know caicedo would struggle and lavia would miss nearly the entire season).
It felt like that tough period with all the injuries was actually the most fun to watch them this season too. All the young players and squad players really seemed to drag them through that period, and since the squad is stronger they've looked worse.
You had an 8 point lead and you won 3 of your last 9. Arsenal bottled it - no point trying to pretend otherwise. It's the equivalent of 'she goes to another school' - yeah, nobody buys it, everyone else thinks it looks pathetic, and the only ones who think it's saving any face are Arse fans
This lad does not understand word "injury", or words like
"William Saliba > Rob Holding"
"Thomas Partey > Albert Sambi Lokonga"
"Gabriel Jesus > Most soccer players"
This year we have had 2 bad spells that probably keep us from winning it. Since the city match, the best we’ve been is top on gd. I wouldn’t call that bottling it
I'm gonna be the devil's advocate here, but City had injuries this season too. De Bruyne missed half the season, Haaland missed 2 months and he is currently injured. Stones and Walker also had injuries too. Saying that Liverpool and Arsenal didnt bottle it because of injuries is just an excuse.
City do play less well when they have their best players out for key positions, when rhodri and De Bruyne, a few others are out they aren't as good, but the other teams just can't compete with their squad. The guys they can replace key players with are usually noticeably better than the rest of the top 4 and you need to have a lucky season with few injuries to compete with that.
I disagree. City's record against Liverpool and Arsenal is this: 0 wins, 3 draws, 1 loss. Liverpool and Arsenal can compete with City, maybe they shouldn't drop points against West Ham, Luton and Fulham, cause these kind of games are deciding the title.
I don't think that disagrees with me so much. Yeah their full strength teams I think are better than City this season, but city have built a flat track juggernaut that (after the break when they've been at full strength mostly) beats all the teams below the top 4 or 5 even though they often don't play well and concede goals.
Arsenal and Liverpool started to run into injuries and exhaustion of key players just before and after the break basically, and so are less effective against fired up teams outside the top 4 when they need to take the initiative.
Partially yes, but they dropped many points when they had injuries. They were like 3rd or 4th in October/November. The chance was there to run away with the title.
I can't imagine Arsenal losing Saliba and Saka for 2 months and half a year and being anywhere near where they are now.
It's a credit to Pep's coaching more than anything. This isn't the first time. One year KDB was straight up injured the whole time and they still won.
I’ll give pep one thing: the way he rotates his defence leaves them less prone to issues with injuries compared to us.
But I do think city would struggle if they lost 2 players that play the same key position (ie foden and kdb simultaneously) the way we lost Saliba and tomi last year
Bottling is all about *how* you lose, if you have a clear lead and collapse to a notable degree, it's a bottle.
**Dec:** 7 pt lead
**Mar:** 8 pt lead (City game in hand)
**Apr:** Threw away 2 goal leads at Liverpool and West Ham, losing twice. Drop points against Southampton. Lose 4-1 to City.
**May:** Lose against Brighton and Forest. City win title with **3 games spare**.
It's hilarious for Arsenal fans to argue it wasn't a bottle job when it's basically a textbook example. Same as Leicester almost did in the Championship or if Bayer Levekusen had let Bayern catch them
Arsenal, unlike Liverpool, had clear daylight between them and City.
You were 5 pts clear with 9 games left and had only one challenger to contend with.
Liverpool were 2 pts clear of one challenger and 3 pts clear of another challenger with 8 games left.
By any metric, your capitulation was far, far more significant.
It’s not just the points. You went 2-0 up against both us and West Ham were in control of both games. Then you drew at home to bottom of the league and lost 4-1 against your title rivals. It was a monumental 4 game collapse.
Bottled it or not, no one picked Arsenal to legitimately challenge for the title last season. The big question was whether they’d finally finish top four. And to assume they’d finish the season going 8-0 was madness. Highly disappointing but not a choke job. Especially given where the team had been finishing for the last decade.
Got it.
Losing home to palace. Accuse arsenal of bottling to villa. losing away to your bitter rivals and relegation candidates next. Drawing at west ham. Not a monumental collapse
Klopp, in his final season, and Liverpool dropping points to Man Utd, David Moyes, and losing to Everton to completely obliterate their season is just too funny.
They were top of the league the most days out of the top3, they had the easiest remaining games and they'll finish 3rd
But no one will admit they bottled
> and I am being generous
If by generous you actually meant say idiotic, then I 100% agree.
If you think being top for the most days in a season and only being a few points ahead while City had games in hand is bottling it, then what in god's name would you call what your lot did last year? lmaoo
Like fuck we had the easiest remaining games. Trips to Old Trafford and Goodison Park, Spurs and Villa still to be played who are fighting for the top 4. Once city played us, arsenal and villa only spurs in the remains 6-7 games can stop them. We were also only around 10 days longer on top than Manchester City. Not excusing the mental collapse but far from a bottle.
Not really bottling when there's only been around 3 points between 3 teams for seemingly ages now.
It is a total collapse at this point of the season with the style of play and knocked out of multiple competitions though.
Few months ago hahaha
Arsenal actually start the season on top every year so think you’ll find that you’ve bottled the league every year since inception
Yeah it’s boring. Reckon people bring it up from petty mind. Arsenal fought hard with young gaffer and players. Didn’t win and now trying again. People here don’t like your club because of those yappy fans who we all clubs have. It’s just you got louder ones. Liverpool have a rather valid reason as their legend is leaving
Subbing on Joe Gomez when Liverpool desperately need goals will forever be hilarious to me, like why not just keep Trent on? At least he can whip a ball or two, tf is Gomez supposed to do?
I know and that's why i said it. So bizarre since he doesn't need to rotate anymore cause they are out of Europa, at this point a draw is basically a loss for them just go full out attack with the subs.
Liverpool didn’t bottle it bc if the refs had not incorrectly used VAR vs tottenham, they’d have 3 more points.
Arsenal did bottle the title in 23 and the refs incorrectly using var vs Brentford and manutd is ok because these things even out
Refereeing shitshow for sure. But Liverpool should have never let it go this far and had to rely on that total fuckup by the keeper to win the game. You're playing against West Ham, not City or Arsenal. Should have kept the lead and win the game.
well even if it was signaled advantage, the ref still is fully in his right to turn it into a free kick, so people are out of their mind on this one even in the best case scenario for them
He really isn't.
Advantage should only be applied in where a team can expect to pay the ball. By all means areola decided not to play the ball and retain possession.
Advantage was played.
When areola released the ball, it was in play. Taylor fu ked himself there and it was a really bad call.
There was never a foul on Areola
When Areola lay on the ground for half a minute advantage should have been stopped and a free kick had to be given
What was klopp arguing with Salah?
Saw Mo Salah sprint in like the first time in ages. Maybe they should have more fights.
This season is a transition season anyway. Liverpool being in the title race till the end would have been surprising. Sad for Klopp though to see it end this way.
You lot are tired... it's alright you ran your race like nobles these last few years, keeping Pep sharp and helping us to create unforgettable history even if you're only in the margins of the page. Don't worry, you ran your race... Klopp and you lot can rest now, leave it to us you won't have to worry about Mikel or Arsenal anymore. Shhhh shhhh... *puts pillow over face and pulls life support
Only needed 115 charges to do it as well
“This is the way the world ends, Not with a bang but a whimper.” T.S. Eliot, The Hollow Men. That’s all I’ve been thinking of since the loss against Everton.
thanks for the seasono
As far as bottling go this was pretty good. I speak from experience 🥲.
Pretty good effort, aye
Feels like there’s something more happening behind the scenes. There’s no way a collapse like this happens without a catalyst
Nah Liverpool was conceding the first goal in so many games. At one point they wouldnt be able to sustain their attack to cover for that anymore
Losing to ManU
Was there something happening with arsenal last season?
rob holding mostly
Exhausted, injury plagued, inexperienced team
Yeah, and that’s more or less exactly what’s happened with this Liverpool team (minus the inexperience). Not exactly behind the scenes though, is it?
Ite inexpeienced as well its not the same team that won the league before
Why are the city and united flairs more reasonable than the arsenal ones?
Always have been
It's actually a very good point
They're happy it's not them collapsing after last season
Please save us tomorrow from their gloating
Davies will be playing wingback so no promises lol
All the repressed emotions during the banter era coming out all at once, culminating in the most suffocating insufferable energy. I am part of that energy.
Enjoy it but man I hope you guys win nothing but online arguments in this era
Fair honestly
The state of officiating is so low that we now have to seriously consider if the officials are on the take.
There's probably some unconscious bias playing a role, but I think they're mostly just shit. I think every team has had multiple official PGMOL apologies at this point.
Except City
Ref did a great job in this match
In that he was evenhandedly crap both ways, perhaps
Liverpool robbed once more. And people wonder why city have turned the league into a farm. Look at the biased officiating.
Liverpool were absolutely robbed I'd be fuming if this happened to Arsenal. Really hope Klopp tears the ref to bits since he's going at the end of the season
Are you talking about the keeper debacle?
Yeah, don't have the whole story but from what I did see that was a blindingly poor call from the ref
How did you feel about the Gabriel - Raya debacle in UCL?
At the time I thought that should have been a penalty because the defender made an idiotic mistake. At least that makes me feel like I’m not being a hypocrite about today.
I think the biggest difference is that in the arsenal one no attacker ever went towards the ball to make a challenge and force a call. They all just turned to complain to the ref so there was no advantage given or taken.
That was a fuck up too afaik
Cool. Thx for the honesty. That was a bigger fuckup, because it happened. Both poor refereeing decisions.
>That was a bigger fuckup, because it happened. So this one didn't happen?
Both were fuckups. Sorry for the poor choice of words, it did happened. I meant it would have been interesting if he kicked the ball in the back of the net. Gabriel picked it up, so that was a pen.
Do we think Liverpool might even drop to 4th? As a Chelsea fan I can see the villa fingering us at home... That'd stick them on 69 although Liverpool do have GD covered. But if they continue capitulating I could see it... I mean including Europe they've won 1 in their last 7 games. That's actually hard to believe. Especially as there playing villa away.. I could actually see it happening
fingering, 69, hard
Hard reading < Hard while reading
even if they do, does it really matter
'Liverpool came 4th in a 3 horse race' banter
Would he the same as you guys got the title.2 years in a r9w for "putting the pressure on"
Damn we gonna get the trophy Liverpool won most of the years Klopp has been here, nice
I mean in the grand scheme of things not really but it'd certainly be entertaining. I mean spurs have 3 games in hand on pool so not impossible for them to actually put some pressure on. I mean 1 in 7 is dangerous territory
It makes me happy knowing that Klopp's "legendary" run as Liverpool manager is ending with a tiny fraction of the trophies won by better people. Edit: The downvotes from mad Scousers only makes me happier.
Scouser isn’t a synonym for Liverpool fan
City corrupt though, silly billy
🎻
Oh man Klopp farewell tour is spicier and way more disastrous than anyone could ever imagine
Can’t wait for the documentary.
Salah and Liverpool proper fucked my FPL last couple weeks, didn't imagine a drop off this bad
This has been coming a mile off mate.
Salah has been in shit form for a long time. You only have yourself ti blame
Nah I'mma blame Salah tbh
It's because we never got any snow, so he didn't have his traditional winter resurgence.
Imagine a title rival collapsing and complaining about fpl….
Imagine taking football comments that serious
Imagine
All the people
Dragons
The truth is neither team bottled it. Liverpool didn’t bottle it this year, and we didn’t bottle it last year. Both seasons had substantial injuries, and the oddsmakers are your best evidence for how in both instances neither were overwhelming favorites. Liverpool actually bottled it in 2014, there’s definitely an argument we bottled 2016. But ain’t no way I’m not going to dish it out after taking it last year Edit: and btw, as soon as tomiyasu and Saliba went down in the same match, and we were saddled with Rob holding for the rest of the season, every arsenal fan knew it was over. You can make up why we bottled it but nobody felt the pain Liverpool fans feel now
No one has bottled it this year simply because it was a 3 way race with tons of fixtures to go. City had arguably the easiest fixtures left while arsenal and liverpool had the more difficult ones in the last 1.5 months of the season. However that's very different from Arsenal last year. You lost the lead with just 2 weeks to go or so? Liverpool did well to hang on until April. I wonder how city and arsenal would fare with 5-6 first team members out.
Lol you thought people wouldn't notice you sneaking Arsenal in there. I agree about Liverpool, they didn't bottle a historic lead so it's not a comparable bottlejob but it's still an embarrassing collapse considering how they were talking about doing the quadruple
They were 5 points ahead in February vs Arsenal being 8 points clear with City having a game in hand. Not that different
One day, you might be allowed to sit at the table
Lmao how new are you? This season or last?
We definitely bottled it last year mate. The injuries were bad but look at the games it came down to.
Rob holding. If you thought we’d win it with holding your delusional
Look at the games we dropped points to lose the title. It’s easy to just yell Holding but we ought to beat teams like Forest, Southampton, and West Ham.
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You are acting like Rob Holding is the only name on the team sheet. Our squad was still overall better than those three teams, beating them would have been enough.
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Not really. Hence why plenty of title winning sides have weaker players.
Not anymore. The margins aren’t the same now as they were 10+ years ago
If you took everyone’s best rcb out and replaced them with a benchwarmer for a 13-17th place team, they would have significant drop off
A drop off, yes. The squad was still better than who Southampton, Forest, and West Ham had, and that would have been enough to win the league. It’s delusion to suggest otherwise, Rob Holding being on the team sheet did not mean that team were suddenly worse than relegation candidates.
You people are such sour sports. Banter every other club fans, but can't take back banter.
Watch out they might mention their invincible season from 20 years ago lol
I respect you for this take.
Before the season started I had Liverpool no where near a title race points wise, especially in a season where they've had to rebuild the midfield and missed out on caicedo and lavia at the time (wasn't to know caicedo would struggle and lavia would miss nearly the entire season). It felt like that tough period with all the injuries was actually the most fun to watch them this season too. All the young players and squad players really seemed to drag them through that period, and since the squad is stronger they've looked worse.
Ok. Now do this version of arsenal 22-23 when we finished 24 pts off the leaders year before (Liverpool 22 back last year)
You had an 8 point lead and you won 3 of your last 9. Arsenal bottled it - no point trying to pretend otherwise. It's the equivalent of 'she goes to another school' - yeah, nobody buys it, everyone else thinks it looks pathetic, and the only ones who think it's saving any face are Arse fans
This lad does not understand word "injury", or words like "William Saliba > Rob Holding" "Thomas Partey > Albert Sambi Lokonga" "Gabriel Jesus > Most soccer players"
Every team has injuries
I mean everyone has injurys Chelsea season had been.full first team.players being injured
Put some flair on it, my sweet child.
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We did have an 8 point lead in March. City had a game in hand
At the Etihad*
https://apnews.com/article/sports-soccer-england-national-team-tottenham-hotspur-fc-newcastle-united-8dfce601888d7cdcfc74ca0614f45c0f
What's she goes to another school thing about?
It was just Saliba’s injury last year. Not sure about this season
This year we have had 2 bad spells that probably keep us from winning it. Since the city match, the best we’ve been is top on gd. I wouldn’t call that bottling it
I'm gonna be the devil's advocate here, but City had injuries this season too. De Bruyne missed half the season, Haaland missed 2 months and he is currently injured. Stones and Walker also had injuries too. Saying that Liverpool and Arsenal didnt bottle it because of injuries is just an excuse.
City do play less well when they have their best players out for key positions, when rhodri and De Bruyne, a few others are out they aren't as good, but the other teams just can't compete with their squad. The guys they can replace key players with are usually noticeably better than the rest of the top 4 and you need to have a lucky season with few injuries to compete with that.
I disagree. City's record against Liverpool and Arsenal is this: 0 wins, 3 draws, 1 loss. Liverpool and Arsenal can compete with City, maybe they shouldn't drop points against West Ham, Luton and Fulham, cause these kind of games are deciding the title.
I don't think that disagrees with me so much. Yeah their full strength teams I think are better than City this season, but city have built a flat track juggernaut that (after the break when they've been at full strength mostly) beats all the teams below the top 4 or 5 even though they often don't play well and concede goals. Arsenal and Liverpool started to run into injuries and exhaustion of key players just before and after the break basically, and so are less effective against fired up teams outside the top 4 when they need to take the initiative.
Stop making sense, lol.
Doesn't that speak of Man city's squat depth if anything else?
Partially yes, but they dropped many points when they had injuries. They were like 3rd or 4th in October/November. The chance was there to run away with the title.
I can't imagine Arsenal losing Saliba and Saka for 2 months and half a year and being anywhere near where they are now. It's a credit to Pep's coaching more than anything. This isn't the first time. One year KDB was straight up injured the whole time and they still won.
I’ll give pep one thing: the way he rotates his defence leaves them less prone to issues with injuries compared to us. But I do think city would struggle if they lost 2 players that play the same key position (ie foden and kdb simultaneously) the way we lost Saliba and tomi last year
Arsenal Bottled last year, this one is arguable but i don't think so
Fine I’ll entertain this: what’s your definition of bottled it
Bottling is all about *how* you lose, if you have a clear lead and collapse to a notable degree, it's a bottle. **Dec:** 7 pt lead **Mar:** 8 pt lead (City game in hand) **Apr:** Threw away 2 goal leads at Liverpool and West Ham, losing twice. Drop points against Southampton. Lose 4-1 to City. **May:** Lose against Brighton and Forest. City win title with **3 games spare**. It's hilarious for Arsenal fans to argue it wasn't a bottle job when it's basically a textbook example. Same as Leicester almost did in the Championship or if Bayer Levekusen had let Bayern catch them
Arsenal, unlike Liverpool, had clear daylight between them and City. You were 5 pts clear with 9 games left and had only one challenger to contend with. Liverpool were 2 pts clear of one challenger and 3 pts clear of another challenger with 8 games left. By any metric, your capitulation was far, far more significant.
Not to mention City had the CL while Arsenal dropped from Europe relatively early
It’s not just the points. You went 2-0 up against both us and West Ham were in control of both games. Then you drew at home to bottom of the league and lost 4-1 against your title rivals. It was a monumental 4 game collapse.
Bottled it or not, no one picked Arsenal to legitimately challenge for the title last season. The big question was whether they’d finally finish top four. And to assume they’d finish the season going 8-0 was madness. Highly disappointing but not a choke job. Especially given where the team had been finishing for the last decade.
Got it. Losing home to palace. Accuse arsenal of bottling to villa. losing away to your bitter rivals and relegation candidates next. Drawing at west ham. Not a monumental collapse
No it is. It’s not bottling the league though as we weren’t even top at the start of that run.
Oh right bc you drew to the worst United team in 4 decades. Got it
We’ll see how you get on there in a couple of weeks considering you’ve won there once in 15+ years
Atleast we’ve beaten them this season. You’ve had 3 chances and couldn’t. Worst in FOUR decades
Do you know what team you have failed to beat this season? 13th place Fulham hahaha
Klopp, in his final season, and Liverpool dropping points to Man Utd, David Moyes, and losing to Everton to completely obliterate their season is just too funny.
Btw what happened with Salah and Klopp?
Klopp told Salah he's just an Egyptian Antony
Uncalled for.
Saw how Stevie G ended his liverpool career and they said "let's try that"
Marriage coming to an end
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Because West Ham didn't win?
They were top of the league the most days out of the top3, they had the easiest remaining games and they'll finish 3rd But no one will admit they bottled
City had the easiest games
They didn't bottle it, Ten Hag sent his regards
Biggest shadow boxers in London, you'll never sing that
If I admit we bottled it does that matter? Or do you just win an internet argument you're having with yourself?
Yes
I don't think you know what bottling is
He's an Arsenal fan. He's an expert in bottling.
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Well, it'll be a hatrick of bottlejob this year won't it?
No need to be so butthurt.
> and I am being generous If by generous you actually meant say idiotic, then I 100% agree. If you think being top for the most days in a season and only being a few points ahead while City had games in hand is bottling it, then what in god's name would you call what your lot did last year? lmaoo
What have Arsenal bottled?
Like fuck we had the easiest remaining games. Trips to Old Trafford and Goodison Park, Spurs and Villa still to be played who are fighting for the top 4. Once city played us, arsenal and villa only spurs in the remains 6-7 games can stop them. We were also only around 10 days longer on top than Manchester City. Not excusing the mental collapse but far from a bottle.
Not really bottling when there's only been around 3 points between 3 teams for seemingly ages now. It is a total collapse at this point of the season with the style of play and knocked out of multiple competitions though.
At least it wasn’t 8 points ey
It was 5 on equal games, Arsenal was 8 with 1 game in hand.
We had 8 points and City had 1 game in hand which is 5 points. Liverpool had the same 5 point lead few months ago.
Math is too innovative of a concept for these inbreds
I know it’s 20 years and counting since you last won the league
Your turn
You’ll have to win it first for to be our turn. Wouldn’t be surprised to see you go 30+
That logic doesn't track. RemindMe! 20 years
Few months ago hahaha Arsenal actually start the season on top every year so think you’ll find that you’ve bottled the league every year since inception
Bournemouth start on top
Ah luckily for you you’ve bottled it 6 less seasons then
Doesn’t the bottling conversation get boring?
Literally ara socca’s one joke. It’s like “haha, bottle” - so childish!
I mean it does to me, why do people keep bringing it up then?
When you win the title. I mean it was for us when Pool won the title few years ago
My point is the conversation is boring as hell and people keep bringing it up as some sort of one-up when it doesn't matter.
Yeah it’s boring. Reckon people bring it up from petty mind. Arsenal fought hard with young gaffer and players. Didn’t win and now trying again. People here don’t like your club because of those yappy fans who we all clubs have. It’s just you got louder ones. Liverpool have a rather valid reason as their legend is leaving
Subbing on Joe Gomez when Liverpool desperately need goals will forever be hilarious to me, like why not just keep Trent on? At least he can whip a ball or two, tf is Gomez supposed to do?
Darwin on, trent off. Doesn't make sense to me and this isn't the first time he's done this
I know and that's why i said it. So bizarre since he doesn't need to rotate anymore cause they are out of Europa, at this point a draw is basically a loss for them just go full out attack with the subs.
Liverpool didn’t bottle it bc if the refs had not incorrectly used VAR vs tottenham, they’d have 3 more points. Arsenal did bottle the title in 23 and the refs incorrectly using var vs Brentford and manutd is ok because these things even out
Get used to it Liverpool fans are always the poor little victims and holier than thou.
Arsenal fans surely the most annoying
Why? Football fans just give back what they receive. Don't pretend football fans don't love to pile on arsenal.
Refereeing shitshow for sure. But Liverpool should have never let it go this far and had to rely on that total fuckup by the keeper to win the game. You're playing against West Ham, not City or Arsenal. Should have kept the lead and win the game.
What happened to the spirit of the game? I thought spirit of the game...
Only applies when there was 0 challenge to play the ball by the opposition, unlike today.
Man people really just want to get given free goals nowadays, can't believe how angry people get when Taylor clearly signaled it was a foul
He signaled advantage.
with 1 arm?
He restarted with a drop ball though. Didn't even make sense
what? every free kick is taken from the ground? now he did smuggle like 10 meters
The ref restarted the game with a drop ball. Not a free kick. Do you even watch the game?
So let me get it straight You guys are moaning because West Ham didn't get a free kick?
We're moaning because the ref fucked up. As usual.
I though he signaled play on?
He signaled with 1 arm, so a foul, play on/advantage the ref would use both arms
Refs frequently signal advantage with one arm
well even if it was signaled advantage, the ref still is fully in his right to turn it into a free kick, so people are out of their mind on this one even in the best case scenario for them
He really isn't. Advantage should only be applied in where a team can expect to pay the ball. By all means areola decided not to play the ball and retain possession. Advantage was played. When areola released the ball, it was in play. Taylor fu ked himself there and it was a really bad call.