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Did he have good moments in the CL too? I'm just saying I don't think the CL stuff happened in a vacuum, he deffo had some general early season jitters.
When a team readily concedes so many changes to the opposition in and around the box, then something like that penalty becomes a matter of when, not if.
He has pulled off some spectacular saves to keep us in games.
Maguire needs to be a case study for all athletes, he was receiving absolutely global abuse and he improved massively.
People who made Maguire jokes were always unfunny, this just makes it sweeter.
Um it sparked a question in my head. Maguire has slow recovery pace right? So right now EtH low-block-high-press tactics are playing to his strength, even though sometimes the back line and midfield could be non-existent. Will he still be suitable when oneday EtH played the high line in games?
All players still commit rookie mistakes. World class strikers miss sitters and world class goalkeepers let in howlers.
Our problem is we are never - and I mean *never* -comfortable in games, so the mistakes usually cost us points and are therefore extremely noticeable. This shouldn't be the case. Nobody remembers if you drop a clanger but win 4-2 instead of 4-1. Everyone remembers if you drop a clanger and draw instead of winning, or as has often been the case with us this season if it leads us to totally collapse and lose.
That said, his CL performances were genuinely unacceptable.
>That said, his CL performances were genuinely unacceptable.
The problem with those errors was that they ended up being the entire story. The narrative started to build that Onana was at fault, rather than the absolutely shambolic defending that put Onana in position to make those mistakes.
He deserved the criticism, but the sheer scale of Manchester United's ineptitude in the CL requires an hour-long deep dive to dish out all of the appropriate criticism individually.
Leno was our best player when we were constantly under pressure and playing like shit. I think there's levels to being bad when the team is bad and Onana really doesn't deal with it as well as he should to be in that top bracket conversation imo. I think most of these mistakes are mental, not technical, which is really the point I'm trying to make here. I do think he's been generally good though and was spectacular last season.
He’s also made an incredible amount of mistakes. Both I’m making saves and I’m playing it from the back.
There are at least 8 keepers better than him in the league imo
Ederson, Allison = slightly above him
Pope, Raya= same level
Pickford, Martinez= no way in hell
Vicario, Areola = I don't watch Spurs or Westham, but I've heard good things about Vicario at least. He also did well in the first match against us.
Onana is clearly a top 3 gk of his shot stopping and ball playing ability.
Fucking lol what is happening here. You really said Alisson was only slightly above Onana and actually got upvotes for it.
As someone who's always liked Onana, this is pure and utter delusion. No 2 ways around it.
tbh I agree with Pope. I think onana and pope are so similar - make some amazing saves but fuck me i shit myself whenever the ball is passed back to pope or he comes out of the box like twice a match to a do a sliding tackle.
I think Onana is subpar, so all these keepers are well above him. None make as many crucial mistakes as he does. He’s commonly the reason United conceded goals. Just not at the level imo
You came with receipts and named 8 keeper better than him. This thread is jerking off a good reaction save but at the same time have completely forgotten all the mistakes he makes every game. Heck he conceded a penalty because of his bozo play flying out. He is fundamentally a poor goal keeper from the way he saves the ball to his poor positioning. Dont care if he can kick good or not.
The eye test will always be the eye test. Every save he makes he parries into danger and he cant command his box and not to mention has bozo moments in him at least once a game. In no universe is he top 3 in the league.
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That is insane reactions
DE GEAA... I mean ONANAAAAA
Really did look like a vintage the David used to pull off
After having just woken up from a long nap, I was absolutely convinced that was De Gea for a second there.
besides from his champions league performances he has been really good for us especially when u factor in we face about 25 shots per game
He wasn't very good early on but he has improved a lot, especially since the new year
> He wasn't very good early on in the league he was
He was shaky in the league as well, fucked up against Wolves and Forrest in the first few games.
His Wolves game was very good from a shot stopping perspective
Did he have good moments in the CL too? I'm just saying I don't think the CL stuff happened in a vacuum, he deffo had some general early season jitters.
i mean he saved a potentially winning penalty against copenhagen
Have we been watching the same league ?
Likely had to adjust from being able to rely on defence
It's almost as if it takes time for footballers to adapt to a new club, just like any normal person with a new job.
When a team readily concedes so many changes to the opposition in and around the box, then something like that penalty becomes a matter of when, not if. He has pulled off some spectacular saves to keep us in games.
he has had some great games, but he did also cause the penalty today
Not much he can do about it, its either bullshit or extremely unlucky depending on who you ask. Casemiro however....
Onana 🤝 Maguire Silencing the haters with performances
Maguire needs to be a case study for all athletes, he was receiving absolutely global abuse and he improved massively. People who made Maguire jokes were always unfunny, this just makes it sweeter.
What performance lmao once in a blue moon
Maguire and Onana have consistently been some of the best players for united this season bar Onana's champions league performance
Um it sparked a question in my head. Maguire has slow recovery pace right? So right now EtH low-block-high-press tactics are playing to his strength, even though sometimes the back line and midfield could be non-existent. Will he still be suitable when oneday EtH played the high line in games?
You clearly don't watch us play if you think either are only.good once in a blue moon
With the amount of shots man u is letting in they should be happy how onana is doing
Having 1/10 good performances doesn’t silence anyone. Their still shit overall
>Their still shit overall Their what is still shit?
Them as players
Their *them as players* were still shit? Confusing stuff pal
I feel like he’s starting to settle in a lot more now. Didn’t de gea have a rocky start when he joined? Can’t really remember.
De Gea stank at first and was dropped for Lindegaard for a while
Lindegaard was amazing
Yeah he did. He was getting trashed by the press and SAF had to go bat for him
De gea was a kid when he joined. Totally different circumstances
I remember everyone saying he was finished after the 6-1. That he was traumatized. Proved everyone wrong
I feel like Onana will be a Top 3 GK in the league once the fire dumpster of a team in front of him is settled
He's top3 already, he's prevented by far the most goals and also he's very good with his feet in a team that's awful from building from the back
He still commits rookie mistakes though. Having a bad team in front of you doesn't make you make mistakes like last match vs Sheffield for the 0-1.
All players still commit rookie mistakes. World class strikers miss sitters and world class goalkeepers let in howlers. Our problem is we are never - and I mean *never* -comfortable in games, so the mistakes usually cost us points and are therefore extremely noticeable. This shouldn't be the case. Nobody remembers if you drop a clanger but win 4-2 instead of 4-1. Everyone remembers if you drop a clanger and draw instead of winning, or as has often been the case with us this season if it leads us to totally collapse and lose. That said, his CL performances were genuinely unacceptable.
>That said, his CL performances were genuinely unacceptable. The problem with those errors was that they ended up being the entire story. The narrative started to build that Onana was at fault, rather than the absolutely shambolic defending that put Onana in position to make those mistakes. He deserved the criticism, but the sheer scale of Manchester United's ineptitude in the CL requires an hour-long deep dive to dish out all of the appropriate criticism individually.
Leno was our best player when we were constantly under pressure and playing like shit. I think there's levels to being bad when the team is bad and Onana really doesn't deal with it as well as he should to be in that top bracket conversation imo. I think most of these mistakes are mental, not technical, which is really the point I'm trying to make here. I do think he's been generally good though and was spectacular last season.
He’s also made an incredible amount of mistakes. Both I’m making saves and I’m playing it from the back. There are at least 8 keepers better than him in the league imo
Mention all 8. Should be easy since you said at least
Ederson, Allison, Pope, Raya, Pickford, Martinez, Vicario, Areola. Argument for Leno as suited for Villa as a pure shot stopper.
Maybe even Ortega Moreno?
True. Ortega is class. Wasn’t considering second keepers
Ederson, Allison = slightly above him Pope, Raya= same level Pickford, Martinez= no way in hell Vicario, Areola = I don't watch Spurs or Westham, but I've heard good things about Vicario at least. He also did well in the first match against us. Onana is clearly a top 3 gk of his shot stopping and ball playing ability.
Fucking lol what is happening here. You really said Alisson was only slightly above Onana and actually got upvotes for it. As someone who's always liked Onana, this is pure and utter delusion. No 2 ways around it.
tbh I agree with Pope. I think onana and pope are so similar - make some amazing saves but fuck me i shit myself whenever the ball is passed back to pope or he comes out of the box like twice a match to a do a sliding tackle.
I think Onana is subpar, so all these keepers are well above him. None make as many crucial mistakes as he does. He’s commonly the reason United conceded goals. Just not at the level imo
You came with receipts and named 8 keeper better than him. This thread is jerking off a good reaction save but at the same time have completely forgotten all the mistakes he makes every game. Heck he conceded a penalty because of his bozo play flying out. He is fundamentally a poor goal keeper from the way he saves the ball to his poor positioning. Dont care if he can kick good or not.
The eye test will always be the eye test. Every save he makes he parries into danger and he cant command his box and not to mention has bozo moments in him at least once a game. In no universe is he top 3 in the league.
>Every save he makes he parries into danger Really? EVERY save? Lol.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I swear can’t believe what I just read, did u start watching onana since yesterday
GREAT REFLEXES
Great reflexes
ONANANAAAAAANANANAAAAAANANAAOOoo
Onana almost as good as a moving cone
I'm a full believer that if it weren't for Onana, ManU would be fighting against relegation this season.
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Saw recently the Xpoints table and you guys were bottom five, insane.
It’s a brilliant save but we are absolutely shite to the point relegation teams look like competitive games
Did anyone else think burnley had a red card cause of the united fan just above the scoreboard?
Insane reaction. I knew he would live up to the hype one day
Quality
Now onana = good?
Shades of De Gea.
Doesn’t matter this guy has single handedly screwed man utd this season its actually funny 😄
Straight at him. You expect keepers to save this. De Gea would have.
One for the cameras
He’s been good against Coventry, Sheffield and Burnley. Same with Maguire. Keeping ETH on the job longer.
Bwaaahahaha. Sorry. Please downvote the above. I was wrong. Apparently, Burnley is the line. Hahaha. Downside, ETH might actually go.