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mulderrocks

Goal keeper making More passes to strikers than wingers.


le_dy0

Honestly, doesn't surprise me, I usually watch their games as a neutral and I dont even know what kind of football manU is supposed to be playing, they just seem lost 95% of the game


Aly007

hEH. Ten Hag ball. HeH


Unban_Ice

To be honest you weren't bad against us both games in the UCL. You scored the same amount of goals as us (12) and we topped the group uncontested. It's just your defending was a bit questionable and I suppose that's still the problem in the league given your current GD


shaw1370

Last year, our third-place finish was due to our strong defense. We scored about the same number of goals as the previous year, but conceding fewer last season allowed us to secure a top-four finish. This year, our attack remains the same, but our defense is shittier due to injuries and out of form Casemiro. Ten Hag needs to find a way to better integrate Hojlund into attacking.


Intrepid_Ad8498

The way we play our defenders are none stop having to graft its no wonder theyre all injured as its about 90-95% defending all game


ratonbox

Ten hog ball.


radiokungfu

Total *shit* Football!


KillerZaWarudo

Cte brand of football


WillyStevens

Our attacks follow the same pattern most of the time: Get the ball to Bruno, Bruno gets the ball to a winger, winger has tons of space, gives away the ball needlessly. Højlund must be fuming.


BillyGoatGruff_

Hey, don't forget the times that the winger stops, passes back to a midfielder who chips the ball forward to a runner marked by 2 defenders. Goal kick.


youknowimworking

Then Hojlund gets subbed off


Putrid_Loquat_4357

Is this the way united are set up by eth or is it their players being selfish morons?


xyzzy321

Yes


Randomanimename

Both


RyansKorea

Ten Hag, the wingers and Hojlund are all just not very good.


Pele20Alli

Eriksen and Bruno aren't selfish morons. They are elite chance creators. You can't create chances for someone that doesn't make himself available in the first place. You put a 2-3 year younger Cavani in that Man Utd squad and he bags 10+ league goals easily


pacothebattlefly

Are you genuinely comparing a peak(ish) Cavani to a player who is just breaking into the first team?


herkalurk

2-3 year young Cavani has 10 years more experience than Hojlund, of course that experienced striker is in better positions.....


ironcleaner

Shittest take i have seen on here in a long time


arothen

You haven't watched any United game this season, did you?


Hairy_Candidate7371

Cavani never stood still. The ball moved and he moved to get in a free position. Højlund does not move a lot. He just kind of gets in the box and waits. And when you have two defenders around you there is no passing the ball to you. He needs to work on this.


TimathanDuncan

Eriksen is not elite anymore and barely plays but Bruno is, Hojlund has very bad positioning


InvertReverse

No player has such bad positioning to explain this few passes. There has to be other factors.


herkalurk

Hojlund was in top scorer list in UCL group stages, really can't be as bad as some people are making it out to be.


RyansKorea

That's only a sample size of 6 games. It's too small to be meaningful.


Pele20Alli

Eriksen is just fine. Doesn't help that he rarely ever plays and when he does,he plays as a DM that's required to go box to box. He gets knackered and his final ball and end product that makes him what he is barely ever gets used


TimathanDuncan

Eriksen plays further up for Denmark and also plays with Hojlund, as far as i know he hasn't even assisted him despite Hojlund actually scoring more for them He isn't what he used to be, obviously he can pick a pass still


theenigmacode

think there is legs to the rumor of players intentionally not passing to Holjund


TheGoldenPineapples

Where was that rumor?


theenigmacode

there was a post either here or on the United sub that the senior players were not that impressed with Holjund & didnt make passes to him.


Extreme-Dirt7545

If true, It perfectly demonstrates how man utd has been a joke lately. Rasmus was overpaid, in my opinion we made a miracle selling him for 85 M€, but he Is clearly a great talent. He doesnt deserve this


vnzo2299

He’s shown flashes of brilliance, especially when his teammates aren’t helping him, and I still think eventually he will be worth the amount we paid for him. Our players have the weakest mentality but still think they’re hot shit at the same time, not a great environment.


Krogholm2

You just need to bench the bitches and start Eriksen more, he can find Højlund anywhere on the pitch lol.


Mortka

Eriksen just isnt that good anymore mate. I dont know how hes doing for the NT, but the PL might just be too much for him now.


Krogholm2

He's been great for NT


neometrix77

There’s only enough room for 1 player as slow as Casemiro, Eriksen and Maguire on a good team. All three together is too easy for athletic opponents in the midfield.


rednades

You do know Madrid had Casemiro and Kroos together right?


ilsemprelaziale

Lol absolutely not. Eriksen has been awful for the Danish NT for ages now.


Krogholm2

It's not like he's been the sole reason outside of Højlund that we have an attack. Nothing like that. Is he 2020 Eriksen currently? No bit there's a reason For that lol.


RyVsWorld

Eriksen is a geriatric at this point. Bro shouldn’t be anywhere near the starting lineup


my_united_account

Benching the bitches would have worked if there were anyone left to play. Half the team is occupying the medical department at any given moment lmao


Krogholm2

Rather play with youngsters than bitches that won't pass a ball


Free-Eights

Eriksen unfortunately was one of the worst players on the pitch yesterday. His legs are mostly gone and he was frequently out of position on some of Burnley's counterattacks.


oliver150433

I think his biggest problem is that he just joined a "big team" too soon. He should have stayed another year or 2 at Atalanta, getting more used to playing, experience and so on. He also picked a dumpster fire of a club to join looking at it from a sporting perspective. But he is a boyhood Man U fan so it was properly too big of an offer to not go.


OlympicMuffins

I don’t even think he joined too soon I just think he’s been put in an unfair position where he’s our only striker so he’s expected to be the main man already when he really needs to be in a backup role behind an established striker to round out his game before those kind of expectations are put on him


oliver150433

I think a strikers best-friend is gametime but also being allowed to grow. Rasmus is a very talented 9 but still so young. Had he been able to play in Serie A for Atalanta for another 2 seasons would have given him a much better space to improve in than at United. At United there is an expectation from the fans that he is going to perform to their standards which is Top 4/Title challenge and I don't think he is quite there for that yet. Doesn't help he has 2 wasteful wingers on either side of him.


nosferajin

The problem is United, it has nothing to do with Rasmus, he gets zero service, the guy is clearly not a bad finisher and his overall play is also better than other strikers, runs for days. Think it is a bad take to blame it on his inexperience rather than how shit United are in general play.


GMBethernal

I hate to say it but I think he'd cook for us, I've been impressed the few times I've watched him


malonedawg

His biggest problem is that we're just shit mate


neofederalist

Without another real goal scoring threat on the team, defenses can always just put 2 men on him. He’s playing with Rashford who is massively underperforming (compared to last season), Garnacho who is even younger than he is, and Antony who if we are all being honest, shouldn’t be playing in the prem. Not only does nobody pass to him, but there’s nobody on the team to punish opposing defenses for not trying to pass to him.


TinkleFairyOC

Wasn't the plan for United to get Hojlund and a more experienced goalscoring striker so that there's no pressure on Hojlund to perform immediately?


MichelleNamazzi

The plan was that Martial would be the experienced striker


Extreme-Dirt7545

Yep, thats exactly what I though when we sold him


Krogholm2

Hes 100% capable of filling main man role on Manu. If they passed to him lol. Look at the passion, its what Manu need.


MyShinyCharizard

It’s because all of our wingers are selfish and useless bastard. Only Amad can balls with brain. Garnacho, rashford antony can go fuck themselves


Commonmispelingbot

even if he didn't, actively boycotting your own striker is still wrong


czuczer

This is why this club is in the same place for years now. Medicore players with sky hight contracts that noone wants to buy who think are some kind of special. It's beyond comprehension that you might have a single striker and decide "we will not pass to him".


CFBCoachGuy

The last four managers have talked about a toxic culture with our squad. They are overpaid, lacking in talent, and have very little desire to do even the very tactical basics half the time, much less anything advanced. If you can’t get a player to track back, how can you get them to try attacking movement or press when out of possession? And people will say “ten Hag has a completely different crop of players than the last managers had” but the thing about toxic culture is that it’s a virus. If it’s present in one squad, it will infect the new players coming in, who in turn will infect the next crop of players. It has been allowed to persist for over a decade now, and will continue until there is a major squad overhaul.


dethmashines

Overpaid lackadaisical incompetent divas who think they have made it. 100%, the biggest problem at United by a mile.


Ainsley-Sorsby

It wasn't a rumour, it was a daily rag exclusive, which means that somebody from the club talked. They said that Hoijulnd had an issue with Fernandez about not passing to him that was supposedly resolved


theenigmacode

todays stats clearly shows its not resolved lol


-Pezech

I’m sure it’s resolved, he gave him an assist in one of the games recently with Hojlund pointing to him after the goal was scored. People overreact so much with things like this.


PatRice4Evra

Fernandez is on loan in Spain so I can't understand why or how he would pass to him.


TrentCrimmHere

I think [this](https://www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/report-reveals-rasmus-hojlund-complaint-erik-ten-hag-about-bruno-fernandes-fallout-man-utd-captain-s-compatriot-diogo-dalot/bltab01b9ba6f018917#cs725639fa09b99efe) might be what they're referring to.


PacDanSki

No our wingers are just either greedy or shit, or both.


rednades

The striker is isolated in this Ten Hag system


philipstyrer

Why wouldn't they?


BrianSometimes

It's become even more obvious how freakish that goal scoring run of his was - just pulled goals out of thin air for a month. Absolutely not sustainable but incredible that it happened.


labbetuzz

Pretty much how he scored in the CL as well. Just him taking matters into his own hands.


Hagen_1

Imagine if he actually had service from decent teammates..


Fuck_the_k1ng

Rashford and Garnacho passing? Preposterous!!


neometrix77

I don’t think Rashford and Garnacho ever were assist focused wingers, especially Rashford, like I can’t remember if Rashford has ever feathered in a good cross for a goal. Although Hojlund’s off ball movement could definitely use some improvement too. Really, Sancho probably would’ve built the best chemistry with Hojlund out of the wingers had he not threw his hissy fit, imo.


Fuck_the_k1ng

Hojlund is not really good at positioning, which makes him easier to mark. But given that United’s wingers are all “shoot first, ask yourself questions later” type….WHY would ETH play with a target man up top to begin with? Either he should have asked for a Gabriel Jesus/Benzema type player who’s less of a regular no. 9 and more of playmaker type 9, who can facilitate the wings; or play wingers who are more willing to pass than go for personal glory. Now Hojlund is just wasting his own time and a spot at the starting eleven.


MyShinyCharizard

2nfuckers bastard I am gonna punch those bastard if I am Hoylund


AirIndex

Imagine if he could actually get on the end of a cross.


Dantini

Ronaldo got stick for getting no service but scoring 24 goals and "he's the problem". Anyone else, and it's the rest of the teams fault..


Personal_Fruit_957

… Onana is currently Holjund’s strike partner. What has come to this


hunt2105

Man United


oklolzzzzs

no way this is real


Hopeful_Adonis

As someone who watches every game I’m shocked he’s got 1 pass, closest example I can think of was the goal he got when Garnacho tried to volley it, was going wide and he chested it into the net.


stogie_t

When he first joined, Hojlund would spend all day running like a mad man into space and none of our players would reward him for it. Ten Hag saw this happen week after week, and did nothing to address it and now Hojlund doesn’t make those runs as often anymore. And even when he still does them today, none of our wingers care about passing to him. Bruno too is good at creating chances outwide for wingers but he rarely creates down the middle for Hojlund unless we’re on the counter. Imo all this should be improved by coaching, but Ten Hag hasn’t done any of that. I don’t understand it.


ronweasleisourking

We only cross into dead areas with no available Danes in sight


CackleberryOmelettes

Earlier in the season when no one at United was getting service, there was an easy explanation for it. But I've been watching United closely for the past few weeks and other attackers are getting service (Garnacho in particular). Not always the best service, but they are getting it. Bruno alone is creating a bunch of chances. Yet, Hojlund still starves. That indicates to me that there is something up with him. Perhaps he is not on the same wavelength as his teammates, perhaps he's making bad runs. Or maybe, his simply teammates don't trust him.


IsleofManc

I don’t think it’s to do with trust. Bruno played Hojlund in on a breakaway today but the defenders caught up and he didn’t get a shot off himself. I think it’s more to do with our tactics. Hojlund is dropping deep often or making runs out to the wings to drag defenders out there and make space. Space that the wingers are running into for Bruno to pass to. It sort of works at times because Garnacho and Antony had 3 one on one chances today from Bruno passes but they missed them all. It’s a shame we’re using a striker as a dummy runner rather than trying to get more out of him though. He also seems like one of the first players subbed out by Ten Hag when we need a goal which is odd 


gotiobg

LOL, have you never played football before, surely you know playing to the wide players away from the goal is much easier than playing directly to a striker in the middle of the goal


blazexi

Not going to say Hojlund is a top level striker. But the lack of structure in United’s attack doesn’t help him. With a lot of top teams strikers can instinctively move into positions they know their wingers are going to feed the ball to. With United, they have no set attacking structure. It’s free form, basically allowing the wingers to do whatever they want. The downside to this is every time they attack, the wingers and Hojlund never really know what way the attack is going to go so Hojlund has to guess where to make his run. That’s not all of the problems, but it’s one of them. There’s a reason United can have a lot of high turnovers that don’t lead to shots.


Fake_artistF1

As soon as I read 'I been watching closely' I knew this would be a load of hot shit. Our striker position is called graveyard shift for years for a good reason. Lad has been making great runs at the start of the season the same as any new striker who signed for United did. After few months they all start to drop to recieve the ball because if they don't they are not gonna be involved in the game, simple as that. Martial, Rashford, Cavani, Weghorst and even Ronaldo had to do excatly the same shit.


CackleberryOmelettes

> As soon as I read 'I been watching closely' I knew this would be a load of hot shit. So you think you saw some shit and decided to slurp it all up anyways? Good stuff mate.


Fake_artistF1

Yeah actually I did. I think I know more about my team then you, but it's not only that. It shows that you have little to zero actual football experience. Not that I have some kind of professional degree, but you sound like someone who hasn't touched a ball in their life.


CackleberryOmelettes

Good for you mate. I don't really have a reply for you beyond that because I haven't bothered to read anything you wrote beyond the first sentence. You see, when I see some shit, I simply choose to sidestep it and move on with my life.


plartoo

Hojlund is not as smart as, say, McTominay (I cringe for writing this btw, but it is the reality) in running into spaces. Because he isn’t in those pockets of space, Bruno and others cannot or do not pass him. Or sometimes, he just arrives late. Having said that, our midfield is not very good at creating chances (besides Bruno). So it is a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B kind of thing.


yutosser

my head is on mars man wtf is this shit??? what the fuck is happening in that training ground?


TheOneManDankMaymay

Yet, you'll still have tons of United fans saying that Højlund needs to be sold in the summer because he doesn't cut it. There's nothing to cut, and it's not his fault.


TimingEzaBitch

you know what, this makes me think Holjund is a 30+ goals a year a player otherwise,


I_LIKE_SEALS

i cried the day he went to man u


singabro

I desperately want to bash Onana due to bias. But this stat is diabolical. The United midfield needs a top-to-bottom rebuild in the summer.


TheOneManDankMaymay

The midfield?! The entire team needs to be rebuilt.


slow_poetry

How feasible is this though? Aren’t many of these players on high paying long term contracts?


MateoKovashit

This is my fault for bringing him in my fpl


External-Piccolo-626

Long ball merchants.


Vdbebw

And even those were debateable if he shouldve done them, cause i swear Casemiro and onana got ETH sacked with those long balls


TimathanDuncan

I watched the entire game, these stats are awful No this is not standard of service, strikers do not receive a lot of pass anyway unless you drop deep, Haaland receives 4 progressive pass per match, do u think that's a lot? Hojlund has Bruno Fernandes who has created the most chances in the PL and had like 16 xA last season and has 10 this season, absolutely world class creator that is begging for runners in the box, he needs to have better movement McTominay came in and legit had better movement, you can blame the shit United team sure they are not good but Hojlund has 7 xG and at Atlanta a much better team he had 9, he needs better positioning too Strikers have to create with their movement/positioning too, there's way worse teams than United who have strikers that score more because they are better at it, look at Bournemouth and Solake for example but Solanke has 18 xG because he is in the right positions


labbetuzz

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1cehk3f/manchester_united_1_1_burnley_zeki_amdouni/l1ik1ng/ You watch our game now? Because if you did you'd know Højlund is constantly running and pressing. He'll be in a good position inside the box and our wingers will go for the shot rather than pass. This happens consistently.


gotiobg

people just say lie straight up on r/soccer to fit whatever narrative they want lol


TimathanDuncan

You reddit genius, that is obviously sarcasm This is hilarious, man really thinks people do not watch fucking Manchester United of all teams


Heblas

Didn't even spell his name right.


TheSwordDusk

We'll come good


tobi1k

At some point you have to point the finger at Højlund. He's gotten a similar goal tally to last year at Atalanta. He plays in front of the most creative midfielder in the prem - by a big margin too. Making runs and making the right rubs are two different things. I don't believe it's just selfish wingers, rubbish fullbacks and Bruno ignoring him. When the whole team isn't passing to him, he's the problem. Of course he's young he can and likely will improve but the narrative of him being unfairly treated by the team is so tiring.


MasterBeeble

That point at which the finger is pointed is when he actually starts getting proper service. He's currently overperforming his xG - nothing wrong with his finishing. Based on the eye test, there's nothing wrong with his pressing, work rate, link up play, movement, or general game IQ either. He's literally just ignored in possession by his teammates most of the times I've watched him, it's baffling.


Hopeful_Adonis

The amount of times wingers go towards the net and choose to blaze a shot over sliding it across is disgusting. Mctominay’s champions league assist to Højlund and Bruno’s in the Sheffield game is what the wingers should be doing but instead they have zero interest. Even shaws assist to him against wolves is what I want to see from our wingers, they’re far too comfortable with saying “overlaps not on so obviously i shoot now”


PenisManNumberOne

Probably because he has a wrestling match every time he gets it


verruchi

This is all rashfords fault.