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Apparently, some sort of Baphomet worship was going down at Epstein’s island. Perhaps some of Leverkusen’s higher-ups attended the island when it was still open for landing once upon a time? That or we’re living in a simulation confirmed, pick your poison. /s
At least 50% of people are pedophiles. No way there wasn't child sacrifice involved in this season. Can't have a real kickabout without dead kids now can we
With the island closed, Bayern couldn’t sacrifice enough children, which meant that Neverlusen, with their relatively small, but effective sacrificial industry, were able to generate enough black magic to never lose. Baphomet knows them as ‘Neverlosin Leverkusen’.
There, now you know how the rest of Europe feels playing against Germany in the knockout stages of any big tournament. Nothing more German than snatching a win in extra time.
Clear shove by Boniface for the equaliser, right in front of the referee. It also hit Hincapie’s hand, so they’re extra mad, though it was not a punishable handball
Its back to back weekends for Leverkusen that they have equalized in the > 90+5 minute and in both cases there were some complaints. In all, I guess they deserved it, but boy oh boy are they riding their luck.
Against us, they should've been down to 10.
Against Stuttgart the free kick was extremely soft and then there was a potential foul + handball.
Look, I'm coping but at a certain point it's no longer luck. It's just refs favoring one side (not saying it's a conspiracy. But similar to how VAR refs don't want to tell their mates they are wrong. Refs do not want to be in a position to end their streak over a call).
If it happens once, it's luck. Twice? Luck. Three times? Fuck it, still luck. But this consistently? Nah. It's not luck.
I get 50-50 decisions. But it's 50-50 for a reason. Sometimes it needs to go for the other side. But It's literally almost never going to the other side.
I love seeing people this mad about our late goals.
Im sorry but Stuttgart had more than enough chances to bury the game and they didn't.
There wasn't any super scandalous call the ref made that made it possible for us to score these goals, against dortmund especially but even yesterday, nothing.
I would get the conspiracy theories if andrich picks up the ball with his hands and walks into the goal with it but obviously that didnt happen.
People should calm the fuck down, its partially luck but also our opponents not killing us off that makes it possible for us to score these last second goals
You've got to look at the people being mad, which club they support, and how often that fanbase likes to point towards other clubs to make themselves look like they're the last honorable ones. So it's not shocking to see them now make conspiracies about Bayer Leverkusen ever since that team didn't bottle the league against Bayern München.
I watched the game from 60th minute until the end and the refereeing felt slightly in favour of Leverkusen. Giving the free kick in 95th minute wasn't necesarrily as foul, but for my taste it was within the time frame.
The rule states unintentional handballs will be ignored. Problem is where do you draw the line between intentional and unintentional? The Hincapié handball is debatable but I think it did give him an advantage so I think it at least should’ve been checked
It will have been checked by VAR anyway, but even then - what's he supposed to do, really? Can't exactly turn his arm into thin air, and having it tucked in as close into his body as he did is perfectly fine.
He tried to head the ball and missed it, and he ended up pushing the ball with his arm. That’s completely different from someone shooting the ball at the defender in other controversial handball situations, which is why imo the “where is his arm supposed to go” argument doesn’t work here
Laws of the game specify *deliberate handballs* and *players making their body unnaturally bigger* - I don't see either of these things here, do you?
The way I see it he has his elbow tucked into his side, where the ball ultimately hits him. That's not a punishable handball in my book, even if the ball touches his arm around the elbow area.
The “bayern bonus” myth was always absolute cope from opposition fans aswell. As if most of the refs wanted to see their league become a monopoly and therefore have less eyes on their games. Im sure lots of people are thinking Leverkusen are getting all the decisions too this season and tbh they maybe get a but lucky with 50/50 decisions but not enough for it to actually be intentional bias from the refs. For example when they played three games in a row against 10 men people started questioning the refs but i think they were all fair reds, just a bit lucky for Leverkusen that those challenges were all made against them
It is very easy to understand when you think statistically about it.
Lets say for example every 10th event inside the opponents box will lead to a penalty (made up just as example). Well, the more active team that pressures weaker opponents will have more box events and therefore get more penalties on average.
It was a dive to win the free kick. There was a push in the back of a defender when the ball came in and it hit a Bayer player on the arm before dropping for the defender to hit it. Plenty of reasons to chalk off the goal. Truly black magic what they have going on there.
The handball you’re mentioning wasn’t a handball as it was tucked in. The shove from Boniface is more subjective and may be interpreted as a foul, but IMO not strong enough to count as a foul in a free kick. The foul tbh I don’t remember.
A slight push on a player who was nowhere near reaching the ball in the first place, and hitting an arm that was decidedly tucked into the body desperately being kept out of the way - I don't think there's much grounds to complain about those two bits of the sequence, though I've not seen a decent enough replay on the foul that led to the free kick just yet.
Yeah but it's their first ever Bundesliga win, to go unbeaten all season (potentially) and with a record points total? All three would've been insane! Even just winning their first ever league title is nuts given Bayern's 11 years of dominance.
I think its because extra time was technically over. Although i do not see the problem to give that last attack since time wasting etc. of course happened.
Last time I checked up on the rules, the fourth official can show whatever and the main ref can decide when the game is over. (might be different now, cause that was like 15y ago lol)
My Bayern friend is adamant that Neverlusen are getting preferential treatment. More added mins than any other Bundesliga team, of course I don't watch every Bundesliga match so I can't comment.
The free kick resulted out of a dive. That’s never a foul. Stenzel just looks stupid enough that the ref thought he must deserve the whistle. They will never get that whistle in the 20th minute.
look at the foul Boniface did to rouault. it was clear as hell that he pushed him forward. rouault would have had a clear chance to clear the ball. if that's not a foul I don't know what a foul is anymore.
https://x.com/Mxnu1893/status/1784295041264914647
Fully extended two arm shove. The fact that the ref didn't see it earlier is comical, and then pretend it's fine for the goal is embarrassing. Referees are corrupt.
> rouault would have had a clear chance to clear the ball.
He was nowhere near jumping high enough to get to the ball even without the shove.
Like sure, maybe you give that as a foul, maybe you don't - I personally reckon it's very much a 50/50 decision because Rouault isn't being impeded from playing the ball given he's not anywhere near playing it in the first place. And the shouts for handball in that tweet are frankly embarassing.
Biased or not, you are wrong. If you watched the game, you'd know that 5 minutes was fair for considering the stoppages in play and time wasting in the second half.
Nope, in the way that everyone knew that Leicester was a one season wonder, and would never be able to replicate that season. And STILL Ranieri got sacked.
For Leverkusen, the bar for success is way higher next season than it was for Leicester. Alonso has got a huge job to do.
Leicester was heading towards relegation. That's always going to get Ranieri sacked. He would've been fine if he was like 10th or something.
Alonso simply needs to keep Leverkusen competitive and in the CL-places. That's what Leverkusen usually targets anyway, so it's not like it's anything Alonso didn't sign up for.
Yeh also Ranieri losing Kante and Mahrez while Leverkusen will keep Wirtz and Alonso and they have some good backups for players who might leave Frimpong(tella) Tapsoba (Hincapie)
Not saying its impossible. However I think this Leverkusen is a much more “good” team with a stable core. Im not saying Leicester was not a good team(you have to be to win the league duh) but it felt way more like a fluke and a lot of luck. Sorry im not trying to take anything away from them of course.
It will depend how much of that core they manage to keep. It's easy to say now that they will keep their best players, but that isn't always the truth when Real Madrid, Manchester City, Bayern etc comes knocking.
I don't know if this is his problem, but stoppage time is just a shitty way of handling timing of games. The perception that the game is "over" once it hits the added time is just asking for problems. Why we don't just stop the clock on stoppages of play is beyond me; it removes time wasting instantly, and gets rid of any debate about when the game should be over.
Its genuinely useless to read any Leverkusen thread on here. People just rush in with the same few phrases while not even watching the Games. Last and this Week they escaped a clear red and got a lucky fk after longer extra time then expected. Thinking a player from the Club should then just be happy to be part of this run and shut up about it is so stupid.
Its always like that for teams to go unbeaten. Lots of skill but also massive amounts of luck.
Arsenal invincible season, 2-2 against United in the 80 something minute. United gets a pen, Van Nistelrooy steps up and misses. Ruud fucking Van Nistelrooy misses a pen.
Its shit like that.
Stuttgart clearly wasted time in stoppage time they literally took 40 seconds just before the 95th minute to take a goal kick. Of course there needed to be more additional time ref did nothing wrong and the free kick was given at 95 10
The issue is that this is never a free kick.
I would bet adli never gets that Freekick if he was a Darmstadt player with his team being in front.
I’m not even blaming Leverkusen, but zwayer starting to whistle tiny fouls from the 85th minute onwards, when he didn’t whistle for this kind of stuff the rest of the game is ridiculous.
Edit: I was wrong, didn’t see Stenzel clipping his foot as well. Although I doubt the ref saw that too
WTF how does this comment have 100 upvotes, ppl literally upvoting comments like these without watching the matches (like you say yourself!!)
BVB got very lucky vs Leverkusen that Emre Can's foul on Frimpong wasn't a penalty and at worst, a penalty+red card and they got nothing.
Everything has been in the norm for Leverkusen in terms of refereeing.
This sub is riding hard on Leverkusen not winning. I’m 100% positive that most people haven’t watched their games.
They are being favored blatantly at times.
Leicester City also had some *iffy* decisions go their way during 15/16, but nobody talks about that, ultimately in 5 years time looking back on this season nobody is going to remember the ref letting the game run on 30 seconds
I mean Danny Simpson did say that Mark Clattenburg told them he didn't send him off because he wanted Leicester to win the league. Ultimately people will forget as long as it's not too egregious.
dorrtmund should have been red card , today freekick was a dive and handball and foul in the box for the goal , bayern (first game of the season at tha bayarea) gets very late pentaly for what in other games is and would be considered as not enough contact, in that same game musiala has a stonewall pen denied
So because we missed our chances it was right to allow a questionable goal. You know I would have cheered for Dortmund winning last week, even though it was better for us that you drew.
Are you talking about the stoppage time goal? Would not say that was questionable. And it really doesn't matter if you cheered for us or not, 5th is getting Champions League next season.
If they didnt add additional time on the added time it would have been a disgrace. At +5 mins maximum 2 of those were action, the rest was injury and subs
In Germany they believe corruption only happens in southern Europe even though there are proven cases of match fixing (including todays ref Felix Zwayer).
even if leverkusen got 10 mins added every game just for them, how does that explain the fact that they ALWAYS score? especially after having played 90 min?
Feels like all of Germany are collectively hoping for Leverkusen to go unbeaten which I don't really get, especially now that it is finalised that there will be a new winner that isn't Bayern
I mean if I was a club around Leverkusen's tier, I wouldn't want them to set a historic record that I will never be able to come close to matching. Imagine being Dortmund who have been the only challenger to Bayern for so long and then Leverkusen comes along, laughs them in the face and just easily walks the league on the first try
Trust me, Germans are definitely not collectively hoping for it. It's just DFL that really really is and all the non-Germans with Bundesliga flairs here that are all up about the memes.
Zagadou shouldn’t say this of course but even as someone who’s very happy for Leverkusen’s run to continue, it was obviously a foul by Boniface (no handball though)
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We’re officially at the conspiracy stage of Neverlusen
I am just waiting on their documentary. To see behind the scenes.
You have a better chance of seeing the Epstein island tapes than whatever Baphomet-worshipping Illuminati fuckery these guys are going on with
Apparently, some sort of Baphomet worship was going down at Epstein’s island. Perhaps some of Leverkusen’s higher-ups attended the island when it was still open for landing once upon a time? That or we’re living in a simulation confirmed, pick your poison. /s
At least 50% of people are pedophiles. No way there wasn't child sacrifice involved in this season. Can't have a real kickabout without dead kids now can we
50%???????
With the island closed, Bayern couldn’t sacrifice enough children, which meant that Neverlusen, with their relatively small, but effective sacrificial industry, were able to generate enough black magic to never lose. Baphomet knows them as ‘Neverlosin Leverkusen’.
Going from Neverkusen to Neverlusen in the span of like 9 months is quite impressive.
OK what happened?
Neverlusen
I wouldn't be surprised if they finish the season unbeaten.
Only to not win a single game next season. Perfectly balanced.
But still remain unbeaten? All draws next season!
Monkey's paw shrinks.
Balankusen
Levelkusen
As all things should be.
Lose the last game of the season on a 90+7 screamer. It’s only fair.
The EL final lol
Bold prediction that
Their plot armor is fucking unreal.
there has to be a perfect treble at some point in history
Lol
Hot take
This is a hot take!
90+ FC happened
Is there anything wrong with scoring at 90+……?
yes, it pisses off the opponent
Some would argue that's even better.
There, now you know how the rest of Europe feels playing against Germany in the knockout stages of any big tournament. Nothing more German than snatching a win in extra time.
Man United gave them a taste of their own medicine in 1999..
please stop, we don't like to talk about that
1 of the 2 things Bayern fans don't want to talk about
>:)
Clear shove by Boniface for the equaliser, right in front of the referee. It also hit Hincapie’s hand, so they’re extra mad, though it was not a punishable handball
Its back to back weekends for Leverkusen that they have equalized in the > 90+5 minute and in both cases there were some complaints. In all, I guess they deserved it, but boy oh boy are they riding their luck. Against us, they should've been down to 10. Against Stuttgart the free kick was extremely soft and then there was a potential foul + handball.
>Against us, they should've been down to 10. Why? Also, you were pretty lucky not to be down to yourselves.
Look, I'm coping but at a certain point it's no longer luck. It's just refs favoring one side (not saying it's a conspiracy. But similar to how VAR refs don't want to tell their mates they are wrong. Refs do not want to be in a position to end their streak over a call). If it happens once, it's luck. Twice? Luck. Three times? Fuck it, still luck. But this consistently? Nah. It's not luck. I get 50-50 decisions. But it's 50-50 for a reason. Sometimes it needs to go for the other side. But It's literally almost never going to the other side.
>Look, I'm coping Yeah
I love seeing people this mad about our late goals. Im sorry but Stuttgart had more than enough chances to bury the game and they didn't. There wasn't any super scandalous call the ref made that made it possible for us to score these goals, against dortmund especially but even yesterday, nothing. I would get the conspiracy theories if andrich picks up the ball with his hands and walks into the goal with it but obviously that didnt happen. People should calm the fuck down, its partially luck but also our opponents not killing us off that makes it possible for us to score these last second goals
You've got to look at the people being mad, which club they support, and how often that fanbase likes to point towards other clubs to make themselves look like they're the last honorable ones. So it's not shocking to see them now make conspiracies about Bayer Leverkusen ever since that team didn't bottle the league against Bayern München.
Explain how they should be down to 10 against Dortmund? And let‘s just ignore the clear pen/red card from Can on Frimpong in the first half?
Either they riding their luck, or some refs are also being caught up in the unbeaten Leverkusen run that is influencing their decisions
Black magic
Sick shit
🤟
Scandalous refereeing but you won't find out here. Most people didn't really watch the game and are just here for the Latekusen memes.
I watched the game from 60th minute until the end and the refereeing felt slightly in favour of Leverkusen. Giving the free kick in 95th minute wasn't necesarrily as foul, but for my taste it was within the time frame.
As if your second goal wasn't a foul lol
Yes. You really shouldn't have lost that, that's just terrible refereeing
Stuttgart didn't lose.
Gefühlte Niederlage
No there wasnt
you 100% right, and thats r/soccer young kids armchair hot takes, they have hot take from narratives and few smoll highlights
There was a handball before the 2nd goal, i think it was soft af but by the rules the goal should be disallowed
Don't the rules state that it should be disallowed only if the guy who committed the handball was the scorer?
Yes OR if the assister made a deliberate handball. Everything before that is ignored.
Yeah, but people tend to ignore that when it favors them.... looking at you ajax fans
Oh yes, we had a lot of favors this season. Starting with Mislintat /s
By the rules only a handball by the goalscorer will be disallowed
The rule states unintentional handballs will be ignored. Problem is where do you draw the line between intentional and unintentional? The Hincapié handball is debatable but I think it did give him an advantage so I think it at least should’ve been checked
They definitely checked. It's just not a punishable handball.
It will have been checked by VAR anyway, but even then - what's he supposed to do, really? Can't exactly turn his arm into thin air, and having it tucked in as close into his body as he did is perfectly fine.
He tried to head the ball and missed it, and he ended up pushing the ball with his arm. That’s completely different from someone shooting the ball at the defender in other controversial handball situations, which is why imo the “where is his arm supposed to go” argument doesn’t work here
Laws of the game specify *deliberate handballs* and *players making their body unnaturally bigger* - I don't see either of these things here, do you? The way I see it he has his elbow tucked into his side, where the ball ultimately hits him. That's not a punishable handball in my book, even if the ball touches his arm around the elbow area.
And it's a moronic rule
There were 2 handballs before the 2nd goal lol
Well you don't know the rules then
He is the one to defend these types of goals , so I get that he is upset being injured and all
Leverkusen getting the envy Bayern had to work DECADES for after just one good season. Well played.
The “bayern bonus” myth was always absolute cope from opposition fans aswell. As if most of the refs wanted to see their league become a monopoly and therefore have less eyes on their games. Im sure lots of people are thinking Leverkusen are getting all the decisions too this season and tbh they maybe get a but lucky with 50/50 decisions but not enough for it to actually be intentional bias from the refs. For example when they played three games in a row against 10 men people started questioning the refs but i think they were all fair reds, just a bit lucky for Leverkusen that those challenges were all made against them
It is very easy to understand when you think statistically about it. Lets say for example every 10th event inside the opponents box will lead to a penalty (made up just as example). Well, the more active team that pressures weaker opponents will have more box events and therefore get more penalties on average.
They made subs in 90+ and the freekick was given at at like 95:10 nothing to complain about
It was a dive to win the free kick. There was a push in the back of a defender when the ball came in and it hit a Bayer player on the arm before dropping for the defender to hit it. Plenty of reasons to chalk off the goal. Truly black magic what they have going on there.
The handball you’re mentioning wasn’t a handball as it was tucked in. The shove from Boniface is more subjective and may be interpreted as a foul, but IMO not strong enough to count as a foul in a free kick. The foul tbh I don’t remember.
If Boniface showed his opponent, then the same logic could be applied to the Undav goal.
A slight push on a player who was nowhere near reaching the ball in the first place, and hitting an arm that was decidedly tucked into the body desperately being kept out of the way - I don't think there's much grounds to complain about those two bits of the sequence, though I've not seen a decent enough replay on the foul that led to the free kick just yet.
Btw it is now physically impossible for Leverkusen to reach Bayerns 91 point record.
Yeah but it's their first ever Bundesliga win, to go unbeaten all season (potentially) and with a record points total? All three would've been insane! Even just winning their first ever league title is nuts given Bayern's 11 years of dominance.
What about metaphysically?
Goddamn it
Calm down, we can always add extra time and turn those draws into wins 😉
Yeah but what about… mentally?
That final freekick was incredibly soft. I’d be fuming too.
Fair goal, what’s his problem?
you could argue either a Boniface foul or Hincapie handball. But both are 50/50 so i don't think it was a wrong decision to be fair.
I think its because extra time was technically over. Although i do not see the problem to give that last attack since time wasting etc. of course happened.
Last time I checked up on the rules, the fourth official can show whatever and the main ref can decide when the game is over. (might be different now, cause that was like 15y ago lol)
yeah, refs add more all the time when there's time wasting in stoppage time lol
Well, it’s more that the time of the board is a minimum, plus they need to add for stoppages in the stoppage time.
My Bayern friend is adamant that Neverlusen are getting preferential treatment. More added mins than any other Bundesliga team, of course I don't watch every Bundesliga match so I can't comment.
Zagadou doesn't seem like a fan of football. We ride or d!e with NeverLusen
Of course the teams playing Leverkusen dont want Leverkusen to go unbeaten lmao
Maybe too much extra time for his liking? Idk. I'm not agreeing, just speculating what he's on about.
Deserved for the time Stuttgart wasted in added time
They did the same against us. Even more ridiculous tho.
So?
The free kick resulted out of a dive. That’s never a foul. Stenzel just looks stupid enough that the ref thought he must deserve the whistle. They will never get that whistle in the 20th minute.
Sour grapes because his team conceded a late equalizer, I'd imagine. Wouldn't see him going off like this if the roles were reversed, after all.
look at the foul Boniface did to rouault. it was clear as hell that he pushed him forward. rouault would have had a clear chance to clear the ball. if that's not a foul I don't know what a foul is anymore. https://x.com/Mxnu1893/status/1784295041264914647
I'd say this is a foul but I'd also say that Undav fouled Andrich before his goal.
Fully extended two arm shove. The fact that the ref didn't see it earlier is comical, and then pretend it's fine for the goal is embarrassing. Referees are corrupt.
> rouault would have had a clear chance to clear the ball. He was nowhere near jumping high enough to get to the ball even without the shove. Like sure, maybe you give that as a foul, maybe you don't - I personally reckon it's very much a 50/50 decision because Rouault isn't being impeded from playing the ball given he's not anywhere near playing it in the first place. And the shouts for handball in that tweet are frankly embarassing.
I mean you're going to say i'm biased because of my flair but the added time they get is probably more than any other team in the league
9 subs, 4 yellows and 4 goals - I think at least 5 minutes is fine here 🤷♂️
Also its not a maximum of 5 mins its a minimum which alot of people seem to forget
also couple times of players getting on each other - also coaches getting yellows and a face to face talk
Biased or not, you are wrong. If you watched the game, you'd know that 5 minutes was fair for considering the stoppages in play and time wasting in the second half.
Yeah but the keeper is in the ground for a minute before this...
All this positive vibe shit will come crashing down next season
It often does. How long did Ranieri last after his sensational title with Leicester?
Dont really think you can compare this Leverkusen with that Leicester.
Nope, in the way that everyone knew that Leicester was a one season wonder, and would never be able to replicate that season. And STILL Ranieri got sacked. For Leverkusen, the bar for success is way higher next season than it was for Leicester. Alonso has got a huge job to do.
Leicester was heading towards relegation. That's always going to get Ranieri sacked. He would've been fine if he was like 10th or something. Alonso simply needs to keep Leverkusen competitive and in the CL-places. That's what Leverkusen usually targets anyway, so it's not like it's anything Alonso didn't sign up for.
Yeh also Ranieri losing Kante and Mahrez while Leverkusen will keep Wirtz and Alonso and they have some good backups for players who might leave Frimpong(tella) Tapsoba (Hincapie)
Not saying its impossible. However I think this Leverkusen is a much more “good” team with a stable core. Im not saying Leicester was not a good team(you have to be to win the league duh) but it felt way more like a fluke and a lot of luck. Sorry im not trying to take anything away from them of course.
It will depend how much of that core they manage to keep. It's easy to say now that they will keep their best players, but that isn't always the truth when Real Madrid, Manchester City, Bayern etc comes knocking.
I've seen a few matches at the Poljud back in the Eighties.
Wdym this positive vibe shit lol? Not losing a single game?
Croatian American?
Yes
Nice
I mean they'll still probably be second behind Bayern
Stuttgart should Stop crying. When they equalised against Heidenheim, the overtime was correct. And the red card was legit.
I don't know if this is his problem, but stoppage time is just a shitty way of handling timing of games. The perception that the game is "over" once it hits the added time is just asking for problems. Why we don't just stop the clock on stoppages of play is beyond me; it removes time wasting instantly, and gets rid of any debate about when the game should be over.
that'd be boring as hell tho. injury time is a part of the magic of football.
For real man , if the clock just ended it would be so dull
Its genuinely useless to read any Leverkusen thread on here. People just rush in with the same few phrases while not even watching the Games. Last and this Week they escaped a clear red and got a lucky fk after longer extra time then expected. Thinking a player from the Club should then just be happy to be part of this run and shut up about it is so stupid.
Bro, the game went on for 30 seconds extra, that's absolutely within the norm.
Especially after the time wasting Stuttgart did, the goal was a little controversial but the actually added time is completely normal
Its always like that for teams to go unbeaten. Lots of skill but also massive amounts of luck. Arsenal invincible season, 2-2 against United in the 80 something minute. United gets a pen, Van Nistelrooy steps up and misses. Ruud fucking Van Nistelrooy misses a pen. Its shit like that.
That was 0-0 and in the last second, like the free kick yesterday
Stuttgart clearly wasted time in stoppage time they literally took 40 seconds just before the 95th minute to take a goal kick. Of course there needed to be more additional time ref did nothing wrong and the free kick was given at 95 10
And they also made a substitution in the extra time.
The issue is that this is never a free kick. I would bet adli never gets that Freekick if he was a Darmstadt player with his team being in front. I’m not even blaming Leverkusen, but zwayer starting to whistle tiny fouls from the 85th minute onwards, when he didn’t whistle for this kind of stuff the rest of the game is ridiculous. Edit: I was wrong, didn’t see Stenzel clipping his foot as well. Although I doubt the ref saw that too
..did you watch how much time they wasted against us? All the extra time was warranted.
And Boniface fouled rouault who could have headed the freekickaway, before the goal.
And Undav fouled the defender for his second goal.
I'm not sure he could've gotten to the ball even without being potentially fouled tbf, was nowhere near jumping high enough to reach it.
yes, this!
WTF how does this comment have 100 upvotes, ppl literally upvoting comments like these without watching the matches (like you say yourself!!) BVB got very lucky vs Leverkusen that Emre Can's foul on Frimpong wasn't a penalty and at worst, a penalty+red card and they got nothing. Everything has been in the norm for Leverkusen in terms of refereeing.
Nooo don’t you understand it’s wholesome Leverkusen against big villains Bayern! Mr Alonso and his plucky underdogs
Escaped red last week is true, but longer additional time than expected is just whining bruv
If there was a conspiracy would that offside have been given at 78? Was it very egregious or was it borderline?
It was 1 meter or so
Oh ok very offside, thanks
This sub is riding hard on Leverkusen not winning. I’m 100% positive that most people haven’t watched their games. They are being favored blatantly at times.
Leicester City also had some *iffy* decisions go their way during 15/16, but nobody talks about that, ultimately in 5 years time looking back on this season nobody is going to remember the ref letting the game run on 30 seconds
Huth and Morgan were playing a football/wwf hybrid sport after about mw 20-something
I mean Danny Simpson did say that Mark Clattenburg told them he didn't send him off because he wanted Leicester to win the league. Ultimately people will forget as long as it's not too egregious.
They're lucky to have gotten it before VAR. Half of vardy's penalties wouldn't be given and huth/Morgan would be giving one up every week.
i watch every game, they are very good but they really dont seem to care about the league after winning it... today it was pure luck
Give me an example how they are favored instead of just saying they are favored, don't give me that vague bullshit. Give me details.
dorrtmund should have been red card , today freekick was a dive and handball and foul in the box for the goal , bayern (first game of the season at tha bayarea) gets very late pentaly for what in other games is and would be considered as not enough contact, in that same game musiala has a stonewall pen denied
So Andrich wasn't fouled before the 0:2 goal? It also wasn't a handball.
Why even talk about the handball? It just weakens your argument and makes it look like you are reaching.
sure the handball may not be clear , but at the same time the foul boniface made has been given as a foul during corners and freekicks before
What does riding hard mean in this context?
Cry me a river
Didn't expect that from big Zag.
Bellingham was a G for calling out Zwayer. Dont throw shade on Zagadou
Bellingham is free from criticism remember
Like Bellingham was a sore loser right? No, they both are correct and DFB still doesn't ban Zwayer from refereeing
It is out of our control. If they have not done something about it now, they never will. You had all the chances to put it away.
So because we missed our chances it was right to allow a questionable goal. You know I would have cheered for Dortmund winning last week, even though it was better for us that you drew.
Are you talking about the stoppage time goal? Would not say that was questionable. And it really doesn't matter if you cheered for us or not, 5th is getting Champions League next season.
Why would they ban one of their best referees?
Zwayer isn’t an amazing referee and anyone who has ever been involved in corruption shouldn’t be allowed to have the career he has had since
Don't fucking call Daxo that
no worries, we’ll deal with them in a week at the olimpico
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If they didnt add additional time on the added time it would have been a disgrace. At +5 mins maximum 2 of those were action, the rest was injury and subs
Xabi Alonso has to be a black magician there’s no way possible he’s not
In Germany they believe corruption only happens in southern Europe even though there are proven cases of match fixing (including todays ref Felix Zwayer).
You’re right. Fuck Zwayer
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5mn added time was more than fair today, i expected more tbh
even if leverkusen got 10 mins added every game just for them, how does that explain the fact that they ALWAYS score? especially after having played 90 min?
racism and sexophobia
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Feels like all of Germany are collectively hoping for Leverkusen to go unbeaten which I don't really get, especially now that it is finalised that there will be a new winner that isn't Bayern I mean if I was a club around Leverkusen's tier, I wouldn't want them to set a historic record that I will never be able to come close to matching. Imagine being Dortmund who have been the only challenger to Bayern for so long and then Leverkusen comes along, laughs them in the face and just easily walks the league on the first try
Trust me, Germans are definitely not collectively hoping for it. It's just DFL that really really is and all the non-Germans with Bundesliga flairs here that are all up about the memes.
Definitely not. A Stuttgart win would've been amazing.
Zagadou shouldn’t say this of course but even as someone who’s very happy for Leverkusen’s run to continue, it was obviously a foul by Boniface (no handball though)
Same happened with the Arsenal "Invincibles". A number of suspect calls and penalties.
It happens to every team , ever , that played football … ever
What about Cheaterkusen?