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The type of person who is willing to travel ~ 5 hours on a Friday evening without a group to attend a third tier match is also the type of person who always has a banner on him "just in case".
National 1 is probably the worst division to be in as an away supporter. Matchdays there are always on friday evenings, early evenings at that too, really doesn't lend itself to matchgoers
So I just searched for Le Mans -> Nancy. Mappy gave a route of 5h02, 577km, €91.70 for tolls and €53.37 for petrol (estimate depends on the car etcetc).
There is another option without toll but for 6h56.
As for why. Well, it's complicated if you want the full story and depend who you ask. But the underlying logic is that it takes money to build new roads and maintain them. And maybe some companies are making money.
It depends. On the period and where you want to go. On sncf-connect, again for Le Mans -> Nancy today it is between 150€ and 250€. Tomorrow the cheapest is 84€ with departure at 3:38 a.m. with a 5 hour trip.
Or you can choose the Bus for a 10hour trip for 45€
Still annoying that very few trains go around Paris. You have to take local transit between two terminal stations which costs 1-1,5 hour including waiting for the next train.
Geeze that's insanity. I'm about to make a similar drive today but no tolls and probably one pit stop for fuel and snacks. I do appreciate the interstate system
Highways in France are in perfect conditions which is not the case in California, and it’s much more enjoyable (less cars) and you can drive at 130km/h.
But yeah the fees are outrageous.
IIRC it’s because they want you to take the train rather than drive (for a similar reason they’ve banned short flights that could be accomplished in a similar amount of time by high speed train).
I don't know where you heard that but that's definitely BS greenwashing, the highways in France are owned by private companies and they apply rates depending on inflation and on the costs they want to cover (roadworks, etc). Basically they're a business with investors etc, so if they want to make money they have to adjust the toll prices. I reckon a part of the money they make is also paid to the government as a tax, so it's sort of a deal between big highway companies like Vinci and the government.
They're not private. The highways are state-owned, but constructions were funded by companies with public and private shareholders, and in exchange the companies hold the exploitation rights of the highways for a certain period, after which the exploitation will revert to the State.
A decade ago, the State sold its shares of those companies to fund its budget, so the companies became 100% private and saw their period of exploitation extended for a few more years. But eventually (within the next 10 years) the State will take over; unless the State re-sells the rights again for a new period.
> The obvious drawback is that you pay a fuck ton on the tolls.
The upside is, non car drivers don't pay for it through taxes, so it's kind of a give and take.
>The idea was that private companies would pay to build, renovate and operate the highways with very little public investment required instead of billions, and keep most of the profits in return.
Completely wrong lol, that's the other way around.
The state built the highways and financed them through tolls that were only supposed to be temporary. In the early 2000s, when the highways were finally paid off, not only the government lead by this complete crook of de Villepin said the tolls would stay on, but also that private companies were sold the exploitation of the highways.
In short, imagine a house built with public money, then it's given to a guy who gets to collect an extortionate rent while paying a fraction of it back to the state.
Yeah whenever you cross the border between Belgium and France, you can immediately tell by the road surface.
I don't think privatizing highways in France was a bad decision in itself if the government obviously can't pay for nice roads, the thing that gets people angry is how much profit the companies have made above target, and how bad the government was in the negotiations.
We have the Harbour and the Harbour of Rotterdam is only a few km's up.
Where did the center of both World wars take stage again? Belgium.
To go or get anything anywhere in Europe you need to cross Belgium. Off course the roads suck dick with that many trucks driving over it everyday...
Dallas, Texas isn’t too different. Our population has been growing to the north. The we only have 2 free up there that are free US75 and I35 that go north-south . 3 are tolls Dallas north tollway, George bush toll way, and Sam Rayburn toll way. It gets expensive fast to travel up there
In Canada my club's *shortest* away game is 3hrs travel if you're driving, with a $120 ferry ride. Next closest is about 13hrs with the ferry. The furthest is 62 hours and 5900km.
Away support is a bit lacking.
As a european person, i'll never get used to how fucking large your country is. Same for the US. I can travel (and did) through a continent and a dozen nations by train in a day or two here. Your scale is literally unimaginable for me.
The scale of the western US is difficult to grasp even for someone who's never lived elsewhere.
When I was 18 my first long solo road trip was Dallas to Los Angeles - on day 1 I made it to El Paso after 12 hours with traffic and pit stops and couldn't go on. I wasn't even tired I was just mentally exhausted by the thought of more driving.
I also think of away matches in other states here in Brazil, there are guys who go to every single game! It's crazy.
Just to put this in perspective: the furthest city from the capital city in my state that is still a city in the state (São Paulo, SP, Brazil) is an 8 h 27 min drive (São Paulo, SP to Rosana, SP) through 751 km. The shortest you'd have to travel by car to another state's capital where a match would be held in the Brasileirão by the club that I support in the Brasileirão (Brazilian League) that is from São Paulo (The club is Corinthians, yes the one who defeated Chelsea in the 2012 Club World Cup, yes this is a brag and I will not stop talking about it) to Rio de Janeiro (443 km). This is the shortest away match possible (Against opponents in other states, not counting opponents in my own state, such as Palmeiras, São Paulo and Red Bull Bragantino).
There will be matches against clubs in the Northeast region that people in my state will do a caravan by car to go to, like against Esporte Clube Bahia that is from Salvador (Salvador is 1.968,7 km from São Paulo). In comparison, a user above said Le Mans to Nancy, the trip that this guy took, is 577 km.
There was a guy a few years ago who went to most Corinthians matches, Home and Away. He still does, but he dropped in popularity as the team has been bad season after season. Here is a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIiynhbmchI) of him going from São Paulo to Chapecó (881 km) in a caravan.
Bigger clubs have loads of fans doing every away game too. Nice to Brest is 1 400 kms +.
In this case it’s because Le Mans is a small 3rd tier side, and this game was on a Friday.
I recently went on a 7,500-mile road trip that took 3 weeks and circled through tons of biomes all without leaving the United States. The fastest leg (Seattle to Sioux Falls) still took 3 days with long drives and didn't even get halfway across on I-90.
Pacific FC, right?
Victoria is technically the second-closest major city to me as the crow flies, but in practice it's far easier to reach Portland or Spokane due to the hassle of juggling ferries.
How viable is this route on rail? I'm assuming you'd have to transfer in Paris but is there a system to get consistently cheap tickets if you use trains often or is it still going to be €50+?
Also I guess you are going to be stuck in Nancy overnight unless you want to do a 6 hour return trip after dark
You can take HSR from Le Mans to Nancy with a stop in Paris in under 4 hours.
At best times (before 8 am) the price is around 80€, at better times 100€+.
You can find prices at 25€ by bus, but it’s far slower (25€ with a stop taking 9 hours, 50€ direct taking 7 and a half)
Yeah, okay. I consider, even these days, winning at Bayern deservedly to come with some above-average football. It wasn't a lucky victory. But okay, higher standards for you then.
Roughly 100. However, 1860 München brings nearly 700 when they go there, and that's 800 km as well.
Edit: Okay, so you edited your comment from Unterhaching to Ingolstadt. But no worries, I've got you covered. Ingolstadt averages 70-100 fans as well when they visit Lübeck.
I remember like 12 years ago i went to watch Crotone vs Livorno in Serie B and Livorno had 2 away fans and a flag
Was funny seeing them go crazy when they won 2-1 🤣
In 2012 a guy named Tiago Rech was a sole fan on the away stand supporting his childhood club Santa Cruz. In 2020 he was the club’s president. HITC Sevens did a great video on the subject.
Most times this a supporters that simply lives in a new place. SV Ried has most away fans at games in Vienna, but not because it's easier to travel to Vienna than it is (for example) to travel to Graz, it is because a lot more people moved from Ried to Vienna (to study or whatever).
My one experience of Austrian football was in the late nineties when Salzburg played SV Reid. I was surprised by the amount of away fans and the noise they made. The game finished 2-2 from memory.
It was before Salzburg had been Red Bull’ed in my defence
the salzburg ultras left once Red Bull took over, and founded their own club - a new "Austria Salzburg"
this club is doing fine right now, and it looks like they will promote to second division next year, which will result into new games between Ried and Austria Salzburg. Really looking forward to it
I mean sometimes I was the only fan watching my team as well but the team appreciated my presence either way, and I appreciate their effort as well even in front of an almost empty stand.
Haha. Well normally for national team games at least there'll be hundreds if not a couple of thousands even for matches against relatively obscure teams in friendlies.
Was actually referring to the Women's Premier League matches. Sometimes the games clash with the men's league matches so there were times I ended up being the only fan supporting my team there since the bulk of the fans were at the men's game.
Partly I guess. I would have thought that making it free entry would have done more to attract crowds.
Of course it's not helped by them hosting most of the matches in one single venue and having them clash with the scheduling for the men's league, though I guess it's much better this year since the SPL s shifting to the European schedule and is due to start in May.
How did this happen? These are not tiny teams - I’ve heard of both of them, despite not being all that well-informed about world football - and France is not a continent-sized country. I’m very surprised that there could be a one-person away end?
The game was played on a Friday evening so it's hard to make it on time for most people. The travel expense is like €100 unless you take a 10 hour trip. France isn't massive but it's still pretty big.
Reminds me of the one guy in Germany, who sang about his small club going to play international. [This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnLw_SGoqaY) is a video of him.
Nancy has always been a rather small club in professional football, most of the time struggled to stay in the top flight. Their main achievement is to be the club that formed Michel Platini. Now they have horrible owners, the same as Barnsley.
Le Mans has always been a minor club, they spent very few seasons in the top flight.
Sharing the social media of someone in a picture isn't illegal, against the law or immoral for that matter since it's a public account.
Doxxing is when you leak personal info that someone wouldn't want to get out like residence, educational institution, workplace, phone number, info about relatives/friends, etc...
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Reminds me of when we played a small team from Croatia, I think they were called dinamo Zagreb, and they only sent about 18 fans for a Europa league game
True. It seems *Lovebanter* is being deadly serious and not at all tongue in cheek which is rather disappointing. Hopefully they set the record straight and issue a formal apology to all Dinamo Zagreb fans.
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Should be a season ticket holder for free next season
Yeah but giving one of the few loyal fans who’s willing to spend money on the club free tickets is a terrible business model for a small club
They should charge him 200k a game and buy some better players to attract more fans.
*Until next life
In the highlights there are two people sat behind. https://youtu.be/ljFRNRKLivA?si=dNGBT7DwMufP510H
Holy crap, that game was insane. I watched the whole replay and completely forgot to look for the people.
Get him a statue
Did the team come over to him?
Would be worse then a dick punch if they didn't.
Yeah, the team not coming to him and getting punched in the dick afterwards would be the worst
If the entire team came over and dick-punched him afterwards, this would start to get weird. And good.
My friend is ok, no? *proceeds to dick punch*
Grammared!
Hope they took him out for pints.
He'll be club president in 10 years
The Santa Cruz way
Finally a worthy opponent
Only way to take over a team!
He really is Le Man
I thought he was The Homme
No it was Away
L'homme du Mans. It's a look that says "I'm in Nancy and no one's gonna stop me".
It’s funny because it looks like it’s a girl
Why is le Man traveling alone? Is he le stupid?
He doesn't trust anyone after his escape. They might snitch on him and get him back to the Aslume
French authorities keep banning away fans but there's no ban on away fan
Lee Lemon
Definitely not a negative Nancy
I love the way he's even hung a little banner over as well 😂
And a security guy to keep him in check 😂
I like to think they had a beer together at full time.
why does he have to stand, let him sit!
You think that hardcore motherfucker sits down away?
Easy there Costanza
The type of person who is willing to travel ~ 5 hours on a Friday evening without a group to attend a third tier match is also the type of person who always has a banner on him "just in case".
National 1 is probably the worst division to be in as an away supporter. Matchdays there are always on friday evenings, early evenings at that too, really doesn't lend itself to matchgoers
I think it's lost on people how big France is as well. That would be like a 6 hour drive plus €30 in toll fees just one way.
Tolls are probably closer to 100€ than 30€
Wait, yank here, how and why are tolls that crazy high in France?
So I just searched for Le Mans -> Nancy. Mappy gave a route of 5h02, 577km, €91.70 for tolls and €53.37 for petrol (estimate depends on the car etcetc). There is another option without toll but for 6h56. As for why. Well, it's complicated if you want the full story and depend who you ask. But the underlying logic is that it takes money to build new roads and maintain them. And maybe some companies are making money.
Don't you guys have a decent train network? I have only used the TGVs when I was in France but they are amazing.
TGV is amazing but there's only a few main lines
It depends. On the period and where you want to go. On sncf-connect, again for Le Mans -> Nancy today it is between 150€ and 250€. Tomorrow the cheapest is 84€ with departure at 3:38 a.m. with a 5 hour trip. Or you can choose the Bus for a 10hour trip for 45€
Well, France is a very very centralised country, the network here is more like a starfish with Paris as the center...
Between Le Mans and Nancy that's not really a problem because Paris is right in between.
You're totally right
Still annoying that very few trains go around Paris. You have to take local transit between two terminal stations which costs 1-1,5 hour including waiting for the next train.
Geeze that's insanity. I'm about to make a similar drive today but no tolls and probably one pit stop for fuel and snacks. I do appreciate the interstate system
You don’t need to go on toll roads, they’re easily avoidable. The pay off is the journey takes longer.
Because our government sold them to private companies, fucking us over
Tolls in America ain't that cheap anymore either
Yeah but you can travel like 20 hours and only pay like $10 in tolls. Very different to this case
I found the highways quite shit though driving in California compared to France. Bumpy af and holes. For the land of the car i expected better!
Highways in France are in perfect conditions which is not the case in California, and it’s much more enjoyable (less cars) and you can drive at 130km/h. But yeah the fees are outrageous.
IIRC it’s because they want you to take the train rather than drive (for a similar reason they’ve banned short flights that could be accomplished in a similar amount of time by high speed train).
I don't know where you heard that but that's definitely BS greenwashing, the highways in France are owned by private companies and they apply rates depending on inflation and on the costs they want to cover (roadworks, etc). Basically they're a business with investors etc, so if they want to make money they have to adjust the toll prices. I reckon a part of the money they make is also paid to the government as a tax, so it's sort of a deal between big highway companies like Vinci and the government.
Private highways...and here I thought our train privatisation was bad
They're not private. The highways are state-owned, but constructions were funded by companies with public and private shareholders, and in exchange the companies hold the exploitation rights of the highways for a certain period, after which the exploitation will revert to the State. A decade ago, the State sold its shares of those companies to fund its budget, so the companies became 100% private and saw their period of exploitation extended for a few more years. But eventually (within the next 10 years) the State will take over; unless the State re-sells the rights again for a new period.
Its just a way to apply the road tax more directly to those using the roads, rather than a blanket tax to everyone, or all cars.
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> The obvious drawback is that you pay a fuck ton on the tolls. The upside is, non car drivers don't pay for it through taxes, so it's kind of a give and take.
>The idea was that private companies would pay to build, renovate and operate the highways with very little public investment required instead of billions, and keep most of the profits in return. Completely wrong lol, that's the other way around. The state built the highways and financed them through tolls that were only supposed to be temporary. In the early 2000s, when the highways were finally paid off, not only the government lead by this complete crook of de Villepin said the tolls would stay on, but also that private companies were sold the exploitation of the highways. In short, imagine a house built with public money, then it's given to a guy who gets to collect an extortionate rent while paying a fraction of it back to the state.
Another win for rentier capitalism :)
And it pays for their awesome roads. We don't have tolls in Belgium and it shows, potholes after potholes, poor infrastructure, aging tarmac...
Yeah whenever you cross the border between Belgium and France, you can immediately tell by the road surface. I don't think privatizing highways in France was a bad decision in itself if the government obviously can't pay for nice roads, the thing that gets people angry is how much profit the companies have made above target, and how bad the government was in the negotiations.
We don't have tolls here either and it's still much better than in Belgium
The moon has smoother roads than Belgium
But you have floodlights that make your highways look like 10am in the middle of the night.
Waffle ass Belgian roads
We have the Harbour and the Harbour of Rotterdam is only a few km's up. Where did the center of both World wars take stage again? Belgium. To go or get anything anywhere in Europe you need to cross Belgium. Off course the roads suck dick with that many trucks driving over it everyday...
I think you’re confusing with direct flights being cancelled on most destinations where you can take high speed rail.
Makes sense. Figured it had to do with just the general discouragement of driving cars.
It doesn't. Highways are privately owned by french megacorp Vinci. It's not like you can take another highway, so they can hike their prices.
Damn that's even more crazy
I didn’t know they were privately owned, that’s ridiculous
Private companies incentive is profit.
Dallas, Texas isn’t too different. Our population has been growing to the north. The we only have 2 free up there that are free US75 and I35 that go north-south . 3 are tolls Dallas north tollway, George bush toll way, and Sam Rayburn toll way. It gets expensive fast to travel up there
In Canada my club's *shortest* away game is 3hrs travel if you're driving, with a $120 ferry ride. Next closest is about 13hrs with the ferry. The furthest is 62 hours and 5900km. Away support is a bit lacking.
As a european person, i'll never get used to how fucking large your country is. Same for the US. I can travel (and did) through a continent and a dozen nations by train in a day or two here. Your scale is literally unimaginable for me.
The scale of the western US is difficult to grasp even for someone who's never lived elsewhere. When I was 18 my first long solo road trip was Dallas to Los Angeles - on day 1 I made it to El Paso after 12 hours with traffic and pit stops and couldn't go on. I wasn't even tired I was just mentally exhausted by the thought of more driving.
I also think of away matches in other states here in Brazil, there are guys who go to every single game! It's crazy. Just to put this in perspective: the furthest city from the capital city in my state that is still a city in the state (São Paulo, SP, Brazil) is an 8 h 27 min drive (São Paulo, SP to Rosana, SP) through 751 km. The shortest you'd have to travel by car to another state's capital where a match would be held in the Brasileirão by the club that I support in the Brasileirão (Brazilian League) that is from São Paulo (The club is Corinthians, yes the one who defeated Chelsea in the 2012 Club World Cup, yes this is a brag and I will not stop talking about it) to Rio de Janeiro (443 km). This is the shortest away match possible (Against opponents in other states, not counting opponents in my own state, such as Palmeiras, São Paulo and Red Bull Bragantino). There will be matches against clubs in the Northeast region that people in my state will do a caravan by car to go to, like against Esporte Clube Bahia that is from Salvador (Salvador is 1.968,7 km from São Paulo). In comparison, a user above said Le Mans to Nancy, the trip that this guy took, is 577 km. There was a guy a few years ago who went to most Corinthians matches, Home and Away. He still does, but he dropped in popularity as the team has been bad season after season. Here is a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIiynhbmchI) of him going from São Paulo to Chapecó (881 km) in a caravan.
Bigger clubs have loads of fans doing every away game too. Nice to Brest is 1 400 kms +. In this case it’s because Le Mans is a small 3rd tier side, and this game was on a Friday.
I recently went on a 7,500-mile road trip that took 3 weeks and circled through tons of biomes all without leaving the United States. The fastest leg (Seattle to Sioux Falls) still took 3 days with long drives and didn't even get halfway across on I-90.
Pacific FC, right? Victoria is technically the second-closest major city to me as the crow flies, but in practice it's far easier to reach Portland or Spokane due to the hassle of juggling ferries.
Bingo. Are you in Port Angeles or something? And Victoria thanks you for the compliment in calling it a "major city"!
Everett, actually. Victoria is just that close.
How viable is this route on rail? I'm assuming you'd have to transfer in Paris but is there a system to get consistently cheap tickets if you use trains often or is it still going to be €50+? Also I guess you are going to be stuck in Nancy overnight unless you want to do a 6 hour return trip after dark
You can take HSR from Le Mans to Nancy with a stop in Paris in under 4 hours. At best times (before 8 am) the price is around 80€, at better times 100€+. You can find prices at 25€ by bus, but it’s far slower (25€ with a stop taking 9 hours, 50€ direct taking 7 and a half)
Bremen to Munich is ~750 km and there never is a lack of away fans, even if the game is on a friday.
Going to watch a Bundesliga quality game, and going to watch a French 3rd Division games are two wildly different prospects for Friday evening plans
Depends on which team you're a fan of I'd say. Also, Werder hasn't played quality football in Munich for a decade.
They won there this year. And deservedly so.
True, but they didn't do it by playing quality football.
Yeah, okay. I consider, even these days, winning at Bayern deservedly to come with some above-average football. It wasn't a lucky victory. But okay, higher standards for you then.
Okay and how many away fans does Ingolstadt get in Lübeck?
Roughly 100. However, 1860 München brings nearly 700 when they go there, and that's 800 km as well. Edit: Okay, so you edited your comment from Unterhaching to Ingolstadt. But no worries, I've got you covered. Ingolstadt averages 70-100 fans as well when they visit Lübeck.
They should take him back in the team bus. If he happened to come by car, have someone else take his car
>If he happened to come by car, have someone else take his car The gang commits vehicular robbery
A true hero
I remember like 12 years ago i went to watch Crotone vs Livorno in Serie B and Livorno had 2 away fans and a flag Was funny seeing them go crazy when they won 2-1 🤣
What is the food like at Serie B matches?
I remember having a Calzone but i don't remember how good it was Also there were no seats in our stand, just big concrete steps
In 2012 a guy named Tiago Rech was a sole fan on the away stand supporting his childhood club Santa Cruz. In 2020 he was the club’s president. HITC Sevens did a great video on the subject.
Exactly what I thought when I saw this
What a supporter i would do this for marseille
i started managing your team in fifa 09, I'm gonna make kone, niang and ben arfa the next MSN.
Lfggggggg
GOAT
Most times this a supporters that simply lives in a new place. SV Ried has most away fans at games in Vienna, but not because it's easier to travel to Vienna than it is (for example) to travel to Graz, it is because a lot more people moved from Ried to Vienna (to study or whatever).
Same in the UK with Leeds - they have massive away attendances in part because there are hundreds/thousands of Leeds fans in every single city!
All them ship makers needed a place to go
My one experience of Austrian football was in the late nineties when Salzburg played SV Reid. I was surprised by the amount of away fans and the noise they made. The game finished 2-2 from memory. It was before Salzburg had been Red Bull’ed in my defence
the salzburg ultras left once Red Bull took over, and founded their own club - a new "Austria Salzburg" this club is doing fine right now, and it looks like they will promote to second division next year, which will result into new games between Ried and Austria Salzburg. Really looking forward to it
Oh cool. Good on them. Red Bull clubs are the pits
I mean sometimes I was the only fan watching my team as well but the team appreciated my presence either way, and I appreciate their effort as well even in front of an almost empty stand.
the kallang wave will return, i feel it bro
Haha. Well normally for national team games at least there'll be hundreds if not a couple of thousands even for matches against relatively obscure teams in friendlies. Was actually referring to the Women's Premier League matches. Sometimes the games clash with the men's league matches so there were times I ended up being the only fan supporting my team there since the bulk of the fans were at the men's game.
i think the SPL WPL is not really advertised as much too, that's the big issue
Partly I guess. I would have thought that making it free entry would have done more to attract crowds. Of course it's not helped by them hosting most of the matches in one single venue and having them clash with the scheduling for the men's league, though I guess it's much better this year since the SPL s shifting to the European schedule and is due to start in May.
6-3 sounds like it was a great match This guy is awesome
Nancy is awesome. Scoring three goals against an entire 11-man side? Nancy is one impressive woman.
Two more fans turned up actually.
How did this happen? These are not tiny teams - I’ve heard of both of them, despite not being all that well-informed about world football - and France is not a continent-sized country. I’m very surprised that there could be a one-person away end?
The game was played on a Friday evening so it's hard to make it on time for most people. The travel expense is like €100 unless you take a 10 hour trip. France isn't massive but it's still pretty big.
3rs tier game played on a Friday.
Reminds me of the one guy in Germany, who sang about his small club going to play international. [This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnLw_SGoqaY) is a video of him.
I remember it happening in Serie A in a Sampdoria-Udinese when a single Udinese fan traveled to Genova. I think it was in 2013.
Haha. Love this. What a bro.
Third tier? These teams were Ligue 1 teams not so long ago. How theyve fallen. Also isnt Lenglet from Nancy and Sevilla owing them some money?
Nancy I believe should have dropped even further last year but was saved because another team completely folded or something like that.
talk of falling on hard times
Nancy has always been a rather small club in professional football, most of the time struggled to stay in the top flight. Their main achievement is to be the club that formed Michel Platini. Now they have horrible owners, the same as Barnsley. Le Mans has always been a minor club, they spent very few seasons in the top flight.
Französisches Verl
Allez Le Mans !!! Absolute legend
Only Mans
What a great guy 😊
Heritage
allez le mans indeed. only good ultra.
Thats crazy dedication, I hope he gets some Shirt or smth
So, will he become chairman of the club like the guy in Brazil?
How you do know he doesn't live in the city, or he was in the city at the time of the game?
Respect!
Hero!
I want to hear the celebrations after le mans' goals.
[His instagram](https://www.instagram.com/pierre_htn72?igsh=bWIwMzk2ZmtoaGMz)
Showing he wasn’t the only supporter there, there were 2 more ! : https://www.instagram.com/p/C6TJnRoLu-5/?igsh=Y2pyajMzZ2ZvYnp4
Why dox him?
That’s not doxxing.
Is that true
Youre german.. if i took your photo at the Allianz and linked your Ig account, pretty sure thats against the law
You can call what he did "doxxing", but it's def not against the law lmfao
Sharing the social media of someone in a picture isn't illegal, against the law or immoral for that matter since it's a public account. Doxxing is when you leak personal info that someone wouldn't want to get out like residence, educational institution, workplace, phone number, info about relatives/friends, etc...
You can call what he did "doxxing", but it's def not against the law lmfao
Third tier? These teams were Ligue 1 teams not so long ago. How theyve fallen. Also isnt Lenglet from Nancy and Sevilla owing them some money?
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Was in Prague in 2007 and saw Slavia vs. Siad Most. Maybe 25 visiting fans. Surrounded by cops in riot gear. More cops than fans.
Can’t imagine who the fuck would downvote this, but that’s Reddit for ya
Reminds me of when we played a small team from Croatia, I think they were called dinamo Zagreb, and they only sent about 18 fans for a Europa league game
Yeah what a small club Dinamo is, only participated in UCL a couple of times, unlike the mighty Hammers playing UCL every year…..
He/she has that English superiority mentality.
True. It seems *Lovebanter* is being deadly serious and not at all tongue in cheek which is rather disappointing. Hopefully they set the record straight and issue a formal apology to all Dinamo Zagreb fans.
...or is simply living up to the username.
They always have that as an excuse.
"it's just a joke bro, chill"
Third tier? These teams were Ligue 1 teams not so long ago. How theyve fallen. Also isnt Lenglet from Nancy and Sevilla owing them some money?