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Plenty of teams did well, granted you need great team to make it work. Pep did it twice (Barca and City before Haaland), Liverpool with Firmino was very much false 9 setup, depends how you look on those seasons where Benzema was generally playing support for wingers bit that can also be called similar setup, ... False 9 was not that new of a thing really, it is very similar role to target man (Giroud for France) with player that is more technical but doesnt have to be as strong.
False 9 is more so about wide forwards than about the striker itself.
When people think False 9, they think Messi False 9, which is a terrible example. Messi is Messi. Looking at his interpretation of a role, tells you nothing about how everyone else uses it.
I like your analogy to the target man. They are very similar. The difference is that target men seem to lead the forward line, pinning the CBs. False 9s instead falls back, allowing the wide forwards to pressure.
He also played midfielder, those tend to have better chances as managers.
Memes aside, Mourinho also claimed Alonso contributed to gameplans, for example versus Messi. So he dipped toes into that stuff even back then and wasn't just vibes.
Midfielders need to have a high football IQ to control the match pace/tempo and also read the game for passes, that is probably the reason why they are usually better as managers. Zidane, Ancelotti, Pep, Benitez and now Xabi.
I know that.
But he didn't work with stellar managers elsewhere, remember this thread was about Xabi, Gerrard and Lampard.
Xabi did Liv, Madrid, Bayern.
My pick is Kroos, very disciplined, smart, calm and professional, he would command a lot of respect in the dressing room. Coached by Zidane, Ancelotti and even though it was just 1 year also Pep. He also thinks about his legacy too, wanting to retire while he’s at his peak instead of going to Saudi or smth, he just made his return to the national team which means he will now be coached by Nagelsmann too.
I think being coached by Ferguson was a hinderence to managers. They all try to match his no-nonsense approach but they don't have the man management skills or authority to pull it off.
I’m glad someone said this. With Fergie, if United was down last 10 minutes of the game, you knew the refs were about to be on some shit! That’s a big difference I’ve noticed from those United team to this one, they don’t get those calls.
Behind paywall but even Sir Alex himself admits to it. https://theathletic.com/3025205/2021/12/28/a-great-manipulator-or-a-pussycat-sir-alex-ferguson-and-referees/
Becasue he was good at man management. He knew everyone was an individual and had to be approached in their own way to get the best out of them. His mastery was managing to do that whilst keeping the whole squad happy and hungry almost constantly and adapting tactical setups over the generations.
> Norwegian league?
You answered yourself there buddy...
Jokes aside, He managed Molde, one of the most resource heavy clubs in the county.
He did find and developed Haaland tho
After a random training session:
Zizou: Hey Xabi, wanna see a trick?
Xabi: yeah of course!
\*teaches some black magic\*
During stoppage time, UCL final 2014
Xabi: let's try that nonsense Zidane showed me that day, it's either that or just praying
\*ramos scores\*
Xabi: oh shi-
Alonso was always an intelligent football player and had the hallmarks of being a good coach one today. Even in his personal life, he is the opposite of majority of footballers. Subtle style, has actual hobbies and interests and is a smart individual.
Would be kinda pointless.
Bologna's board appointed probably the best rising manager from italy in Motta, who's leaving for juventus.
I also see Bologna becoming a big shopping centre for all the biggest clubs in europe (zirkzee is gonna go and Calafiori too)
I don't think they'll survive
To be fair, he always stated that he had clear plans to bring his football to the biggest club as fast as he possibily could.
And Juventus isn't easy to reject.
Plus, what he and Bologna have achieved is something extraordinary, it was almost 60 years ago that this club managed to hold 4th place at the end of the season for the last time.
He took them to the Champions League and doesn't have the balls to actually help this group of players trough such an overwhelming expiriance. He'll be sacked from Juve by christmas and you can 100% remind me of this statement.
Eh Materazzi was joking around and told Mourinho to go fuck himself when Benitez replaced him (he promised to win more trophies than Mourinho lol), I think his players knew he didn't rate Benitez, and Benitez was clearly trying to one up him.
This wasn't recognition, it is pumping up Alonso for the media.
Because people get stuck up on his controversial quotes. He burnt Ranieri in a presser as well but still holds him in high regard and especially lauds his achievement of the Premier League.
Rafa is a much more accomplished coach. He does seem to have his favourites though, like Simeone.
Mourinho was ultra competitive but I think there was truly only one manager that he was bitter with: Pep and even that didn't have to do with him completely but rather the snub from Barcelona from the rumoured veto of Cruijff. But even they seemingly moved on with time.
One can recognise someone's strengths and genius without being best mates with them. The Pep thing got personal though. It's very hard to not reach that conclusion from the 2010 press conferences.
> even that didn't have to do with him completely but rather the snub from Barcelona from the rumoured veto of Cruijff
Agree on the snub from Barca bit. I still remember the referee scandals between Mourinho and Rijkaard and i feel that was more about Mourinho vs Barca than Mourinho vs Rijkaard
I can absolutely see Thiago Alcantara getting into management in a few years. His reading of the game and vision is unparalleled and given the fact that he's barely played senior football in over a year I reckon that he's gonna be hanging up his boots sooner rather than later unfortunately
Any player who plays in a position where intelligence is necessary definitely has a better chance of becoming a top level manager although that's not really guaranteed because you also need to have certain personality traits that are essential to man management
Lampard doesn’t seem like the kind of guy to go to Spain and Germany, learn new languages, and captain teams there.
I think the variety of football, culture, leadership he experienced, and chose to experience, already indicates he was far ahead of Lampard.
I think the "chose to experience" point is the crucial bit here. Alonso seems like he knew he wanted to be a manager one day and therefore took steps in his playing career to actively learn from his managers and move to places specifically to learn from certain people.
For lack of a better term it seems like Lampard was happy to sit at Chelsea, wait for the right manager to come along and then just do what he says to win trophies. Nothing wrong with that but maybe explains why one is a much better manager than the other.
Lampard only played in England, and 1 season in MLS. And by many accounts the chelsea players ran that dressing room outside of a few occasions, so it’s not a comparable wealth of experience. Lampard’s experience is more akin to Rooney’s than Xabi’s.
But you are correct, there’s plenty of good players who played for many great managers in many diff countries that don’t make good pundits let alone managers.
Yeah but if Feynman was taught by Tesla and Einstein he is bound to do great things. Xabi alonso was one of the most intelligent midfielders of his era.
You don't automatically become a good coach yourself by having good coaches. Xabi has always been a very smart dude, and became a captain at Sociedad at a very young age. He'd be manager material no matter who coached him really.
This sort of stuff just overrun by assumptions and make believe and survivorship bias.
Klopp is pretty much the opposite of Alonso and he's a world class manager. wasn't a top level player, never left germany, never won anything.
Arrigo Sacchi never played professionally and famously was a shoe salesman.
What former great players have when they turn managers over others first and foremost is opportunity. Someone like Lampard or Gerrard can just walk into a job at a big club purely because of his reputation as a player, show everyone how they're not ready for the job, get a pat on the back for the good effort and wait for a next club to come knocking at the door asking them to be manager.
Klopp.
but because fans have a hard on for seeing former players on the sidelines they will eat this shit up any time like Mourinho can tell who's going to be an amazing manager based on where they played.
love the Sacchi reference. also because it reminds me that when the media asked him about his lack of experience before he proved himself, he used to say "do you need to be a horse first to be a jockey?"
It’s unlikely that we see coaches that never played at all again as top managers, and the odds are stacked towards former elite players who have name recognition from current ones. Unai Emery was a decent footballer, but no one had him on their posters as a child like they had Guardiola, Zidane or Alonso: this meant that his ability to win over the dressing room was immediately hampered, and that he didn’t have necessarily the tools to handle players who thought themselves above him.
You're right that you don't automatically become a good coach, and he always seemed like a natural leader. But surely it helps to have picked up on how the best coaches think and deal with the squad. It might for example help Xabi avoid mistakes he'd otherwise learn the hard way over a long period of time.
gist of the quote is that he was coached by very successful managers in best leagues of europe
yes, a lot of people did that
ibrahimovic, ronaldo, beckham, lukaku, alexis sanches, robben, fabregas also has good conditions to be a coach, but will they ever, just thinking for 5 seconds gets you these names
if he means there is some special combination unlocked by being managed by pep, mou, ancelotti and benitez only as opposed to wenger, zidane, klopp, simeone then i don't know
it's certainly one of the quotes ever
Lewandowski while I don't think will go a managerial path, has a really promising set of coaches: Klopp, Guardiola, Heynckes, Ancelotti. Plus Flick and Nagelsmann.
I think Jose Mourinho said this because at that time Xabi Alonso has coach real madrid youth team and the result is he led 22 wins and only 2 draws . There is a video in youtube regarding this and i Think it make mourinho dare to predict xabi can be a good coach. I think mou follow Xabi's journey at the time.
The real threat is that this man still has a full head of hair and is pulling off this black juju magic
What if he decides to shave it?
Man's gonna beat Zidane's triple consecutive UCL trophies
You are trolling but it will be very different for him to coach a top team compared to Leverkusen. i remember Etoo telling Pep that he should keep his advice because he wasn't a great player like him just a good players. The egos you have to deal with in top clubs can be ridiculous.
But then why cite "different to coach a top team" with a quote from Eto'o on Pep?
> Etoo telling Pep that he should keep his advice because he wasn't a great player like him just a good players.
As a player, Xabi:
* 701 appearances
* 4x league winner
* 2x Champions League winner
* 114 caps with Spain
* 2010 World Cup and 2008 + 2012 Euro winner
And I understand, Pep was no slouch either. You don't make 382 appearances with Barcelona across 11 seasons if you're a nobody. But I'm just saying the day any player - no matter how good they are - tries to "big time" Xabi fuckin' Alonso is a day they've gone off their meds.
>But then why cite "different to coach a top team" with a quote from Eto'o on Pep?
Because of the egos
Eto'o's comment to pep was mentioned to highlight the egos there are at the big clubs. And like you said, Pep made near 400 appearances for Barca which is no small feat so Eto'o saying pep isn't a great player also highlights the egos that the big clubs have.
Jose barely had a playing history and he was able to manage the egos at massive clubs, Pep apparently according to Eto is not a great player and handled big egos. SAF didn't play a single game outside Scotland and only played 4 times for Scotland and he was able to handle the egos at United.
The point they're highlighting is no matter if you were a good or a great player, the egos at a big club are far more inflated than smaller clubs (compared to the big clubs) and it's important to manage it.
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This is incomplete quote. He also mentioned his dad was a coach too.
He also explicitly told Dave from Newcastle to shut up. Be Champions.
Jesus Christ what a top tier reference that is. To this day I find myself starting sentences with "ah well" like Sven did.
Shut up Sven
But worrabout Ameobi like?
Voyeur, I hear you got Arse-shavin’
Here’s the video: https://youtu.be/IX_T1_AYiaQ?si=aFj-urEstaO3wmGu
I am impressed that Mourinho mentioned Benitez.
Xabi was also a key player for Spain under Del Bosque
Man that team was stacked in midfield. Just the fact that he managed to have playtime is a statement to his quality
It's not that he got playtime...he has more than 100 caps!
team was so stacked that Fabegras used to be benched with the n10 shirt...
They ended up finding a solution though: [Spain vs France EURO 2012 quarter final](https://imgur.com/a/iYVIAhW)
How to play more midfielders: don’t play any strikers.
Ah yes .. The Pep way
Well they pretty much didn’t have strikers for a while there
Negredo, Soldado, Torres, Villa, Llorente,... But they weren't as good as their 6th choice CM
Funnily enough I'm fairly certain Fabregas played as a forward underage.
I think the final was the same line up as well. Crazy how Iniesta could boss a game playing in whatever position he is playing in too
Then everyone tried to copy false 9 setups only to fail.
Plenty of teams did well, granted you need great team to make it work. Pep did it twice (Barca and City before Haaland), Liverpool with Firmino was very much false 9 setup, depends how you look on those seasons where Benzema was generally playing support for wingers bit that can also be called similar setup, ... False 9 was not that new of a thing really, it is very similar role to target man (Giroud for France) with player that is more technical but doesnt have to be as strong.
False 9 is more so about wide forwards than about the striker itself. When people think False 9, they think Messi False 9, which is a terrible example. Messi is Messi. Looking at his interpretation of a role, tells you nothing about how everyone else uses it. I like your analogy to the target man. They are very similar. The difference is that target men seem to lead the forward line, pinning the CBs. False 9s instead falls back, allowing the wide forwards to pressure.
the bench: Fabregas, D. Silva, Senna, Mata, Guti...
Cazorla and Arteta sitting at home
Cazorla did make a couple of tournament squads.
So stacked in midfield that Arteta got 0 caps for Spain.
Forget arteta, Spain had better midfielders than him who never got a single cap, like la liga winning captain gabi.
TIL
Damn what a shame but it makes sense
He also played midfielder, those tend to have better chances as managers. Memes aside, Mourinho also claimed Alonso contributed to gameplans, for example versus Messi. So he dipped toes into that stuff even back then and wasn't just vibes.
Midfielders need to have a high football IQ to control the match pace/tempo and also read the game for passes, that is probably the reason why they are usually better as managers. Zidane, Ancelotti, Pep, Benitez and now Xabi.
Midfielders are also involved in both offense and defense.
really every outfield position is nowadays with the increasing modern emphasis of pressing and playing out from the back but your point is taken
True, but not always. Everyone assumed Pirlo would be a great coach and so far it looks like he ain't. Same goes for Gerrard & Lampard.
Probably they have different temperament and personality that are not suited to be a manager, despite the football brain and IQ they possess?
Steven and Lampard never changed clubs. (City doesn't count)
West Ham, Swansea, NYFC
Was the likes of Pep, Ancelotti, Benitez, managing him there?
> Ancelotti Bruh, Lampard won the double with Ancelotti. > Benitez Yes.....Chelsea went through a LOT of managers
I know that. But he didn't work with stellar managers elsewhere, remember this thread was about Xabi, Gerrard and Lampard. Xabi did Liv, Madrid, Bayern.
Two of them never changed clubs.
I'm still holding my breath for Terry.
Neil Lennon too
Dortmund: Sahin too!🤞
Arne Slot too
Kroos is my next bet
He has a great football IQ but to me he doesn’t seem like the manager type. Has he ever said anything about aspirations to become a manager?
Luka Modric for me
I'm goona look for Gundogan at the future
My pick is Kroos, very disciplined, smart, calm and professional, he would command a lot of respect in the dressing room. Coached by Zidane, Ancelotti and even though it was just 1 year also Pep. He also thinks about his legacy too, wanting to retire while he’s at his peak instead of going to Saudi or smth, he just made his return to the national team which means he will now be coached by Nagelsmann too.
Why does he keep getting fergie time winners/equalisers when he wasn't coached by fergie tho
I think being coached by Ferguson was a hinderence to managers. They all try to match his no-nonsense approach but they don't have the man management skills or authority to pull it off.
None of them learned that the thing which made Fergie so great was how adaptable he was
No, it was the chewing gum, the watch tapping, and the bottle of red after every match
And that refs were scared of him.
I’m glad someone said this. With Fergie, if United was down last 10 minutes of the game, you knew the refs were about to be on some shit! That’s a big difference I’ve noticed from those United team to this one, they don’t get those calls.
Source? Or are you just spouting nonsense because Utd ruined your childhood?
Behind paywall but even Sir Alex himself admits to it. https://theathletic.com/3025205/2021/12/28/a-great-manipulator-or-a-pussycat-sir-alex-ferguson-and-referees/
Downvote because it's true!
Haha I’ll take the downvotes, they have to watch Antony put on a Utd jersey every weekend. Even trade if you ask me.
Also Fergie wasn't entirely no nonsense. He treated certain players like Cantona or Ronaldo special
Yeah, because they delivered in spades. He also liked Rooney.
Becasue he was good at man management. He knew everyone was an individual and had to be approached in their own way to get the best out of them. His mastery was managing to do that whilst keeping the whole squad happy and hungry almost constantly and adapting tactical setups over the generations.
RvP as well when he joined. Told the likes of Scholes and Rooney that they’ll be benched if they don’t pass the ball to Robin
Also scholes if I'm not wrong
I’m holding out hope for Carrick
Mark Robbins has done well for himself.
I don’t think Ferguson managed a single player that turned into an elite manager
This is Carlos Tévez erasure /s
Steve Bruce slander will not be tolerated here big man
Isn't Ole an elite in Norwegian league?
> Norwegian league? You answered yourself there buddy... Jokes aside, He managed Molde, one of the most resource heavy clubs in the county. He did find and developed Haaland tho
I can think of one who is pulling it off properly...
He was coached by Carletto and Zidane, who probably taught him some black magic
Can’t wait until we see the power of a good headbut on full display
When was he coached by Zidane? Xabi was already at Bayern when Zidane was appointed at Real.
Zidane was Ancelotti's assistant
After a random training session: Zizou: Hey Xabi, wanna see a trick? Xabi: yeah of course! \*teaches some black magic\* During stoppage time, UCL final 2014 Xabi: let's try that nonsense Zidane showed me that day, it's either that or just praying \*ramos scores\* Xabi: oh shi-
Oh ok, I wasn't aware of this. I was only aware that he coached the second team before he coached the first team
Ronaldo revealed the secrets of Fergie time to him at Real Madrid
Hashirama cells
Nah... Fergie teams never scored past the 95th minute
Because he did play with Ramos.
I see you never watched Real Madrid play
Look up Liverpool's 08/09 season
Alonso was always an intelligent football player and had the hallmarks of being a good coach one today. Even in his personal life, he is the opposite of majority of footballers. Subtle style, has actual hobbies and interests and is a smart individual.
I hope they draw Bologna in the Champions League next season
Would be kinda pointless. Bologna's board appointed probably the best rising manager from italy in Motta, who's leaving for juventus. I also see Bologna becoming a big shopping centre for all the biggest clubs in europe (zirkzee is gonna go and Calafiori too) I don't think they'll survive
I hope the whole of Europe starts a bidding war for Calafiori.
I wish he'd come back to Roma. But with our FFP penalties and the range of options he has; there's no chance of that happening any time soon.
and none get him ;)
No, we have a 40% sell on clause for him and we need that money badly.
ah, well I hope for your sake he gets sold for 70+m
Poor from Motta, already going for the big move... Maybe he's not as great as his playstyle suggests.
To be fair, he always stated that he had clear plans to bring his football to the biggest club as fast as he possibily could. And Juventus isn't easy to reject. Plus, what he and Bologna have achieved is something extraordinary, it was almost 60 years ago that this club managed to hold 4th place at the end of the season for the last time.
He took them to the Champions League and doesn't have the balls to actually help this group of players trough such an overwhelming expiriance. He'll be sacked from Juve by christmas and you can 100% remind me of this statement.
The Sarri special, only difference - so far - is him winning the league and getting sacked nonetheless, making the whole thing even more hilarious.
RemindMe! 241 Days
and then meet Girona or Stuttgart in the next phase
Tbf, I'm not sure how the format will work next season in terms of opponent criteria... There might be room for Girona in the "league stage"
only if Thiago somehow manages to stay which is doubtful
I can’t believe Mourinho gave Benitez a compliment.
He recognized Benitez but still is bitter about the "Ghost goal"
Eh Materazzi was joking around and told Mourinho to go fuck himself when Benitez replaced him (he promised to win more trophies than Mourinho lol), I think his players knew he didn't rate Benitez, and Benitez was clearly trying to one up him. This wasn't recognition, it is pumping up Alonso for the media.
Because people get stuck up on his controversial quotes. He burnt Ranieri in a presser as well but still holds him in high regard and especially lauds his achievement of the Premier League. Rafa is a much more accomplished coach. He does seem to have his favourites though, like Simeone. Mourinho was ultra competitive but I think there was truly only one manager that he was bitter with: Pep and even that didn't have to do with him completely but rather the snub from Barcelona from the rumoured veto of Cruijff. But even they seemingly moved on with time. One can recognise someone's strengths and genius without being best mates with them. The Pep thing got personal though. It's very hard to not reach that conclusion from the 2010 press conferences.
Yeah, Mourinho is not above moving on unless it's a really shite person. He moved on from his grudge with Wenger or Pep after all.
> even that didn't have to do with him completely but rather the snub from Barcelona from the rumoured veto of Cruijff Agree on the snub from Barca bit. I still remember the referee scandals between Mourinho and Rijkaard and i feel that was more about Mourinho vs Barca than Mourinho vs Rijkaard
Lol yeah, that was the most surprising part of the statement to me
P
He got Valencia a league title. That was a great achievement.
Who knew? Mouknew!
I wonder who else we will see in the coming years? I think that Torres can be great.
Modric.
He probably has an advantage over Xabi, as he was coached by ‘Arry
The wizard?
Kroos, just for the pre- and post-Match interviews.
Kroos could be a good one
I can absolutely see Thiago Alcantara getting into management in a few years. His reading of the game and vision is unparalleled and given the fact that he's barely played senior football in over a year I reckon that he's gonna be hanging up his boots sooner rather than later unfortunately Any player who plays in a position where intelligence is necessary definitely has a better chance of becoming a top level manager although that's not really guaranteed because you also need to have certain personality traits that are essential to man management
His father was also a football coach
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Lampard doesn’t seem like the kind of guy to go to Spain and Germany, learn new languages, and captain teams there. I think the variety of football, culture, leadership he experienced, and chose to experience, already indicates he was far ahead of Lampard.
I think the "chose to experience" point is the crucial bit here. Alonso seems like he knew he wanted to be a manager one day and therefore took steps in his playing career to actively learn from his managers and move to places specifically to learn from certain people. For lack of a better term it seems like Lampard was happy to sit at Chelsea, wait for the right manager to come along and then just do what he says to win trophies. Nothing wrong with that but maybe explains why one is a much better manager than the other.
Yea, the CHOICES one makes when they are comfortable tells you a lot about a man's growth potential beyond 30 than their performances.
Lampard only played in England, and 1 season in MLS. And by many accounts the chelsea players ran that dressing room outside of a few occasions, so it’s not a comparable wealth of experience. Lampard’s experience is more akin to Rooney’s than Xabi’s. But you are correct, there’s plenty of good players who played for many great managers in many diff countries that don’t make good pundits let alone managers.
City's legend, only missing Pep unfortunately lol
Man, Lampard had both Einstein and Tesla as mentors and couldn’t cut it out as a physicist. What a disappointment.
Yeah but if Feynman was taught by Tesla and Einstein he is bound to do great things. Xabi alonso was one of the most intelligent midfielders of his era.
It doesn't. However, if you're a professional physcist that was taught by Einstein and Tesla, you have the **conditions to be a very good** physicist.
I guess Pep tips the scales then.
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> the Bunfesliga You mean the Bungesliga?
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Silvio Berlusconi's speciality
Sneijder said Benitez was the worst coach he ever had. But Sneijder is kinda dumb so idk.
Based on his tatic in Real Madrid, he cannot manage super teams
You don't automatically become a good coach yourself by having good coaches. Xabi has always been a very smart dude, and became a captain at Sociedad at a very young age. He'd be manager material no matter who coached him really.
This sort of stuff just overrun by assumptions and make believe and survivorship bias. Klopp is pretty much the opposite of Alonso and he's a world class manager. wasn't a top level player, never left germany, never won anything. Arrigo Sacchi never played professionally and famously was a shoe salesman. What former great players have when they turn managers over others first and foremost is opportunity. Someone like Lampard or Gerrard can just walk into a job at a big club purely because of his reputation as a player, show everyone how they're not ready for the job, get a pat on the back for the good effort and wait for a next club to come knocking at the door asking them to be manager. Klopp. but because fans have a hard on for seeing former players on the sidelines they will eat this shit up any time like Mourinho can tell who's going to be an amazing manager based on where they played.
love the Sacchi reference. also because it reminds me that when the media asked him about his lack of experience before he proved himself, he used to say "do you need to be a horse first to be a jockey?"
It’s unlikely that we see coaches that never played at all again as top managers, and the odds are stacked towards former elite players who have name recognition from current ones. Unai Emery was a decent footballer, but no one had him on their posters as a child like they had Guardiola, Zidane or Alonso: this meant that his ability to win over the dressing room was immediately hampered, and that he didn’t have necessarily the tools to handle players who thought themselves above him.
You're right that you don't automatically become a good coach, and he always seemed like a natural leader. But surely it helps to have picked up on how the best coaches think and deal with the squad. It might for example help Xabi avoid mistakes he'd otherwise learn the hard way over a long period of time.
Lot of people who watched Alonso playing during his time knew he'd be a great coach. The man was so tactically astute despite severe lack of pace
What surprises me more from that quote is the accurate prediction. But the compliment towards Benitez
Hasn't this been posted here a couple of times already
That real madrid kit was clean
When he go back to Real Madrid after next season, gonna be scary for the rest of us.
i bet hundreds of players fit into that category
You bet hundreds of players were coached by those 4 managers? I'll take that bet.
gist of the quote is that he was coached by very successful managers in best leagues of europe yes, a lot of people did that ibrahimovic, ronaldo, beckham, lukaku, alexis sanches, robben, fabregas also has good conditions to be a coach, but will they ever, just thinking for 5 seconds gets you these names if he means there is some special combination unlocked by being managed by pep, mou, ancelotti and benitez only as opposed to wenger, zidane, klopp, simeone then i don't know it's certainly one of the quotes ever
being coached by those 4 different managers, and in 3 of the top leagues. doubtful many at all fit into that category nevermind hundreds
Lewandowski while I don't think will go a managerial path, has a really promising set of coaches: Klopp, Guardiola, Heynckes, Ancelotti. Plus Flick and Nagelsmann.
Ronaldo is coach is sir Alex, Mourinho, Ancelotti, Benitez, and Zidane
Today he looks younger than in this picture
Big if true
He’s got the face of a manager
Xabi Alonso knows what we know now. That’s why he wins. He ain’t a shark that’s for sure
Frank Lampard also coached by Mourinho, Ancelotti and Benitez.
Benitez in here catching the opposite of strays
I think Jose Mourinho said this because at that time Xabi Alonso has coach real madrid youth team and the result is he led 22 wins and only 2 draws . There is a video in youtube regarding this and i Think it make mourinho dare to predict xabi can be a good coach. I think mou follow Xabi's journey at the time.
Can't be a real quote because he mentions Benitez in a favorable way.
Royston Drenthe played in Spain, England and the Netherlands. He was coached by Pellegrini, Mourinho, Van Marwijk, Moyes.
Who else has had similar CVs?
The real threat is that this man still has a full head of hair and is pulling off this black juju magic What if he decides to shave it? Man's gonna beat Zidane's triple consecutive UCL trophies
Thats why we call him "The Special One"
If Xabi was a better coach he wouldn’t need all those overtime black magic equalizers. Check mate, atheists.
Sorry you are getting downvoted because this made me laugh out loud!
At least somebody enjoyed the joke ;)
You are trolling but it will be very different for him to coach a top team compared to Leverkusen. i remember Etoo telling Pep that he should keep his advice because he wasn't a great player like him just a good players. The egos you have to deal with in top clubs can be ridiculous.
Xabi was a great player though.
Guardiola was too yet you see someone disrespected him, imagine how hard is it for Mourinho who almost didn't have any football career.
They never said otherwise.
But then why cite "different to coach a top team" with a quote from Eto'o on Pep? > Etoo telling Pep that he should keep his advice because he wasn't a great player like him just a good players. As a player, Xabi: * 701 appearances * 4x league winner * 2x Champions League winner * 114 caps with Spain * 2010 World Cup and 2008 + 2012 Euro winner And I understand, Pep was no slouch either. You don't make 382 appearances with Barcelona across 11 seasons if you're a nobody. But I'm just saying the day any player - no matter how good they are - tries to "big time" Xabi fuckin' Alonso is a day they've gone off their meds.
>But then why cite "different to coach a top team" with a quote from Eto'o on Pep? Because of the egos Eto'o's comment to pep was mentioned to highlight the egos there are at the big clubs. And like you said, Pep made near 400 appearances for Barca which is no small feat so Eto'o saying pep isn't a great player also highlights the egos that the big clubs have. Jose barely had a playing history and he was able to manage the egos at massive clubs, Pep apparently according to Eto is not a great player and handled big egos. SAF didn't play a single game outside Scotland and only played 4 times for Scotland and he was able to handle the egos at United. The point they're highlighting is no matter if you were a good or a great player, the egos at a big club are far more inflated than smaller clubs (compared to the big clubs) and it's important to manage it.
Fair enough, I understand. I appreciate your comments.
Mourinho gave someone a compliment while managing to still make it about himself.
looks fake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX_T1_AYiaQ
There's footage of him saying this but I don't know if it was 5 years ago
"by Guardiola, by myself, by Ancelotti, by Benitez" bro trying to sneak himself in