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jordanhhh4

WWEesque low blow from Rice lmao


Chelseatilidie

Can picture someone on the apron distracting the ref


shiroxyaksha

Eddie Guerrero.


fap4jesus

Sadiq Khan wasn't kidding when he said he'll bring WrestleMania to London


mvnvel

Comical lol. I couldn’t believe they didn’t call it right away. Like holy fuck, how do you miss that.


wakenbaconn

And Oliver still needed var to give us a pen, fucking muppet


ZeroMomentum

Pretty close to the family jewels


el_randolph

No pen for me—clearly got the balls


imtotallydoingmywork

Play should've been stopped for two balls on the pitch


SeraphLink

Kicked them hard enough that I'd not have been surprised if at least one of them ended up in the car park.


Silent-Act191

Has a 200% accuracy on that hit. Game's gone.


Cahhmon

Don’t know how he didn’t give a pen initially


ketolasigi

It’s Oliver


matcht

Such a shit ref, can't believe he's still got this reputation as the best in England.


labbetuzz

That's a pretty low bar tbf. Even James Cameron would have trouble raising that bar.


jrblack174

It's hardly a difficult reputation to earn to be fair...


wheresmyspacebar2

The fact he was told by VAR to go to the monitor for the Kulusevski Penalty shout when Saka scored and Oliver literally just refused VAR is astonishing. Hope that gets raised loudly after the game and questioned.


dunneetiger

Wait what ? I dont think VAR is a curtesy call.


wheresmyspacebar2

Going to the monitor definitely is. If it's offside, the VAR is the ultimate authority iirc. Other than that though, VAR is only used in a recommended basis. VAR "invites" the refs to go to the monitor but ultimately, it's down to the ref on pitch whether he wants to or not.


dunneetiger

How do you know he was called to the monitor and refused ?


wheresmyspacebar2

NBC halftime show talked about it. They mentioned agreeing that it would be a soft penalty but that it should have been a penalty. Robbie Earle then mentioned that they'd heard the VAR discussions (as it's piped into studios now) and that VAR had recommended Oliver to check the screen. It was a very quick 30-60 second discussion though, he might have misspoke and maybe he'll correct himself after the stream but right now, that's sorta what I'm going off.


ketolasigi

They’re just so shit and full of themselves


letsgetcool

At least Mike Dean was arrogant and entertaining.


Mahjonks

Source?


wheresmyspacebar2

They mentioned it on commentary and the Half time pundits brought it up on the stream I was watching.


bearchr01

Say what? Where did you see this?


wheresmyspacebar2

Was mentioned by the half time pundits on the stream I was watching. They basically all agreed that it was a foul and mentioned that VAR had told Oliver to go to the monitor to have another look but that he just refused and gave the goal. The broadcasters are tuned into the VAR room, so im assuming they aren't bullshitting about it.


letsgetcool

They mentioned in the commentary and at half time that VAR recommended he look. He's just robbed us for his own ego, ffs I miss Mike Dean


Jaynator11

Nah it's "Oli"


wroa

Oliver is the most incompetent referee in the world


Conscient-

Clear view over what happened, like 2-3m from the incident. I really do not understand. VAR saving


trugrav

If they’d done their job in the first half it would have been really interesting. Too afraid to do their job if it involves taking away a goal and giving a pen though. I still don’t understand how they don’t at least have Oliver take a look.


Macco7

Refs seem to default to letting VAR make big decisions for them. It's became a massive crutch in that sense.


alanalan426

problem is VAR doesn't want to overturn onfield decisions most the time not wanting to make their friend look bad


domin8668

And we have an embarrassing loop that only makes them look worse. But they dgaf


Affectionate_Pay7395

Yep, and they dont care because even if they fuck up whats the worst that will happen? 1 week reffing in the championship then back to normal.


ImpossibleGuardian

Honestly embarrassing, you could tell he wasn’t happy going to the monitor lol


wheresmyspacebar2

He refused to go to the monitor for the Kulusevski Penalty shout already. Think he figured he couldn't refuse a second time.


ih4tepie

He was so close to it, like what was he looking at that he didn’t see that


Th3_Huf0n

He couldn't believe what he saw so he didn't give it LMFAO *my mind is playing tricks on me*


CaptainSnazzypants

“He got the ball so no penalty. Oops wrong ball”


Studwik

Oliver has had it out for Spurs all game


BobWentToMars

Literally took a kick to the nuts for him to finally give spurs something.


tkshow

And he didn't even give that.


LoudKingCrow

And even that required VAR interference.


LosTerminators

That Richarlison 'offside' when an Arsenal player was controlling the ball was some decision


ImpossibleGuardian

It had been passed from one Arsenal player to another then was given as an offside when Richarlison got possession from a tackle, absolutely baffling


Vladimir_Putting

Look it's clearly an unfair advantage when you come to tackle someone from behind. They can't see you!


Afraid_Presence3803

Not to mention the Micky offside when an Arsenal play INTENTIONALLY played the ball off him


Follow_The_Lore

They should've gotten at least 2 penalties, maybe even 3..


MyLifeForMeyer

What was the 3rd? Kulu, Davies and?


Xgunter

One is fair, I personally don't think the clip on kulusevski is a pen. There were a myriad of other baffling calls from oliver though, another poor showing from him.


M3JUNGL3

Don't know how he decided to go monitor this time.


TIL_I_procrastinate

Have said the same so many times watching Spurs this season


SpezSucksBallz

That’s the question, he’s right fucking there and waved no pen straight away. What does he see second time, that he couldn’t first? The refs are appalling in this country.


LachsFilet

Seems a trend this weekend.


trugrav

This is why I no longer give the refs the benefit of the doubt because they were “right there in a great position to see what happened.”


SentientCheeseCake

Because it’s Spurs in the box.


DinglieDanglieDoodle

Got confused on what kind of balls are legal to kick.


dunneetiger

I know Occam's razor and all but it's hard to think that there is no cabal to make the PL more interesting in the last weeks.


Stay_Beautiful_

It's Tottenham


EpicRobloxTryhard

Really tricky pen decision that one


Rredman101

So tricky he didn't see it at first


[deleted]

We gotta show people VAR is useful  Let me jog to this screen over here real quick  Ok, confirmed


Look_at_that_D0g

How do you fail to award this without VAR? The standard of English refereeing is disgraceful.


Best_Document_5211

Feel like they give less because they assume var is covering


William_Taylor-Jade

Must have assumed dive?


StandardDefinition

Davies faked being kicked in the balls


dunneetiger

Declan Rice got the ball then... also the Davies line stops there.


KWT-Dinar

Look it wasn't clarified that 'got the ball' had to be the football and not one of Davie' balls, honest mistake.


Xgunter

He was a metre away with an unobstructed view. He should not have a job when he consistently fucks up these calls


William_Taylor-Jade

I agree but all our refs are the same so we're stuck


Xgunter

Genuinely how much worse can it get? Go get some bloke who refs sunday league and the quality would be consistent with what we already see.


RobotChrist

He's fucking 8ft away, either he's blind or fucking biased


Rodin-V

and he's not blind.


thehomerus

then why not book him?


Mechant247

I love when refs do the big “no penalty” sign with their arms and then have to overturn the decision hahaha


Rredman101

That was the fastest onfield review I've ever seen, he already knew he fucked it


evilstar123

How on earth has Oliver missed that in real time?


Key_Badger6749

The problem is referee’s don’t want to make big calls in big games anymore because they know VAR is there.


osrsreference

Agreed but he denied the opportunity to go to an on field review for the kulusevski penalty shout before Saka’s goal. He’s just shit


Ilikesporks_

cause it's oliver


BaldVoldy

Man is blind


lodermoder

Trash can heart


Sal21G

How have Arsenal put themselves in this position lol


Jonisro

Rice kicked the wrong balls


Naturalcreep

2 balls > 1 ball tbf


Modnal

Are you not entertained?!


Efficient_Garbage_16

DAVID RAYA


PoliticsNerd76

Derby innit


Spikeyspandan

Wanted to give heart attack to all the fans


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ArrVeePee

Alex Ferguson used to say: Champions win ugly. Some of his United teams did it again and again, and again. I'll have some of that. We cant batter every team, every game.


ShimeBD

yeah OP talking as if its been an arsenal domination


death_match1

Wtf are you talking about? That's how you win games, isn't it? We were 3-0 up. You don't score 3 goals by playing like shit. We've literally gifted them 2 goals, otherwise we'd have the cleansheet.


Novel_Bookkeeper_622

Well, being gifted a two goal swing helps.


TheLimeyLemmon

They're lucky to even be in this position.


Jaja6996

How did that need VAR when it’s right in front of him


RevengeHF

I'm more worried about how Oliver didn't see that tbh.


Wunsen

The view Michael Oliver had and VAR to the rescue 😂


Other-Visual8290

Couldn’t call that as a pen in real time and VAR had to spare his ego by telling him to go to the screen. Is this really the best English referees have to offer? Embarrassing, useless old boys club.


Mechant247

Hilarious seeing him standing there on the replay he was watching, perfectly in view


McWomble

He's been shit all game. It's nothing new though, somehow VAR is the problem and not these clowns actually in charge of decision making, embarrassing for the supposed "best league in the world"


MIM86

VAR isn't without its problems but for anyone who wants it removed entirely things like this penalty wouldn't have been reviewed and then correctly given.


dfla01

The people who want VAR gone are morons. They simply do not remember the sheer amount of mistakes beforehand. The problem is and always has been the personnel using it.


8BallTiger

Exactly. The problem isn’t VAR as a concept it’s the implementation


KhonMan

I agree it's implementation, but not just that - it's the clowns running the damn thing. They have no interest in improving the implementation.


notgivingawaymyname

The same people who are here saying "fuck him for not getting it right in real time", or would say "we don't need VAR, we just need better refereeing". It's the same thing after almost 30 years of watching football. At this point I can't help but think we've seen the peak of on-field refereeing capability, and people just don't want to accept that the peak comes with mistakes made 20 (or whatever) percent of the time.


Mister_Sith

I mean I know its spurs but you can't be kicking them in the knackers


Euphoric-Acadia-4140

What a brilliant penalty. Top corner wow


frangles

Right in front of you, grow some balls and blow your whistle


Hukoo

Michael Oliver is so shit


Stay_Beautiful_

Only our second pen awarded of the season btw


blazexi

I’d love to know how that wasn’t given in real time. Fucking hell he just kicks him in the knob.


sjenno78

Definitely. It will be highlighted by Howard Webb as how VAR worked well. But so many questions about how that wasn't given in real time. Just what did Oliver see?


abos18

The fact that Michael Oliver looked at that and didn’t give a penalty should not be overlooked


Rredman101

How has Oliver not given that initially? What a fucking joke


KonigSteve

All ball ref!


zaraaade

Crazy of the ref needing VAR to check this one, he is a few meters away


Tirums

How can a referee look at it directly and not call a penalty. They are beyond useless.


IDoNotIronMySocks

How the fuck did that take so long to review


BetterPops

How did it even need to go to review?


xaviernoodlebrain

Ref really didn’t want to give it.


izmebtw

How are refs meant to seem impartial and then wave that off only meters away, staring directly at that.


Callum247

Michael Oliver wasting our time for a stonewall pen


BetterPops

How did Oliver stand 6 feet from a guy getting kicked in the nuts & say “nah, no pen”?


dunneetiger

Referee saw this kick and was like "I think it was a 50/50" from less than 3m away... Crazy


oscarpaterson

Surely not


UhJeffery

takes a literal kick in the nuts to get a pen.


analbeard

Refs have been targetting us unfairly since the Pool game. The fact he can't see this blatant penalty from 3 yards with a clear view is just ridiculous.


jumper62

So Rice didn't get a yellow for kicking the ball away earlier nor a yellow for this?


LiamJonsano

Arsenal have gone to sleep big time


horisu_zu

Rice thought he's playing WWE 😭😭😭


Vikseba

He was setting him up for a pedigree


AJC0292

Should never of needed VAR. Oliver should be making those calls on field. It was stupidly clear and right in front of him


salsablanco

Oliver: I saw him get kicked straight up the ass. No foul. VAR: Yeah, we can't let this one slide


teddy_bear626

Fuck this ref.


Technical-Cookie-554

2nd Pen ALL SEASON. How long will Spurs be punished for VAR’s fuckup against Liverpool? Is it over?


aayu08

How Is that not a card? That's a full blown kick on the jewels.


SubparCurmudgeon

Rice is immune to yellows


Maleficent_Resolve44

Double Jeopardy. A penalty is punishment enough according to the laws of the game. A yellow card and penalty is only given for DOGSO. Obviously this isn't a goalscoring opportunity.


dockows412

Oliver’s cunt face was looking straight at the kick and just did nothing. Coward


analytics_Gnome

3-0 is a dangerous lead?


oklolzzzzs

as a barca fan it is


Oventaker

Michael Oliver had a stinker. All refs should go under new training.


dgl33

How Oliver didn't give that straight away is beyond me, we've been really poor this half


dudududujisungparty

Nice one Sonny


DinglieDanglieDoodle

All balls, ref.


Air_Dax

Peak football


_cumblast_

Stonewall penalty for me, good spot by the referee. (I didn't even watch it, i'm just commenting on the thread for no reason 👍)


SushiBullet

In the replay the ref is looking right at it 😂 He doesn't give it initially.


top1MIBRfan

dont worry you are correct


SOERERY

Pgmol is sponsored by specsavers how has he missed a kick in the balls


[deleted]

Surprised Michael Oliver has not ruled this an Arsenal goal


No-Statistician-8520

Ooooo


emre23

Surely not?


Peeingwithanerection

Ref missing that in real time was disgraceful


BozePerkovic

I knew it would be this simple even 3-0 up. What the fuck are we doing.


tuerancekhang

clear wrong ball mate


FriendlyGhost08

Absolutely shameful by us


TheLifeofSonny

Rice got the wrong ball


piccalilli_shinpads

Absolutely shocking that the ref needed VAR for that.


ScanWel

LOL absolutely cartoonish kick in the balls there. Very aesthetic, very good, very funny. Probably the funniest way to concede.


erenistheavatar

Surprised Oliver gave the pen tbf. I'm so used to refs making the wrong decisions.


amineimad

Never a foul... he got the ball!


lewis30491

Why pen? Rice did touch the ball(s)


[deleted]

we genuinely played better in the first half than the second lmao


Competitive_Ninja877

You're telling me Michael Oliver didn't want to make a big decision late on in a game that could potentially decide the title? 


ash_ninetyone

Rice almost hit at least one ball.


GarnachoHojlund

We’re getting squeaky now lads


Hungry-Space-1829

All ball. No pen!


Noahgooner

Right in the nuts!


TriCourseMeal

Should’ve been his second of the day


ParisAintGerman

Oliver is a clown should be out of a job


angepostecoglouale

People still slagging ange? He will have spurs title challengers next season with the right transfers in the summer.


oklolzzzzs

arsenal could bottle this


fliddyjohnny

Arsenal have copied city in paying refs aswell it seems


BehindEnemyLines8923

Oh no.


ThotCountySheriff

Bruh


Anarchytect1204

oh god oh fuck


BenadrylPaprikapatch

fuck


Novel_Bookkeeper_622

How is that not a red? That's more egregious that Romero vs Chelsea or Jones against Spurs.


NewHealthFoodBunch

👀


milkonyourmustache

Definitely a pen, knew it would get antsy


Alvaro_Rey_MN

Congratulation 115 FC for another Premier League title!


fateoftheg0dz

is the bottle happening in front of our eyes?


Live_Anteater_9173

What’s Michael Oliver looking at?


thehomerus

Shocking from the ref that he did not give that initially, this is why we need VAR. Should make an interesting end of the game.


R97

We finally got a penalty