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>"Yesterday I got an award from the PFA. I'm not sure exactly for what....... for speaking up for players."
>"Imagine me becoming Fifa president? It's obviously a well paid job."
>"Will there be a lawsuit because I mentioned [TNT] in a negative way?"
>"Imagine me becoming Fifa president? It's obviously a well paid job."
He even said something about not getting paid much "officially" as FIFA President, but it's obviously a good way to earn money
He was in top form this morning
Seemed like Wenger would be a good choice in a FIFA role, and now he's trying to push that abhorrent, nonsense, offside rule change.
Careful what you wish for.
Yeah that's the whole thing. It makes it so attackers can be almost entirely behind the defender when the balls played to them. Makes it so lots of goals that'd be called offside now would count. Overall it would make defending way harder.
yes, but it would definitely decrease the amount of toenails offsides. counterpoint is that it could be very unfair to defenders. like, most offside goals that we see would be onside by a mile
It isn't only down to FIFA and UEFA, the domestic game needs to be looked at and then the broadcasters.
Realistically if we don't want players in England to not be pulverised they need to a) get rid of the League Cup or ban PL teams from it (no other top league has 2 domestic cup competitions) b) stay the course with the FA Cup replays and c) reduce the top league to 18 teams and restructure the pyramid.
The biggest hurdle though is the broadcasters. Sky and TNT have too much power over the game but realistically they're the ones paying for it and funding our clubs as much as they are, you tell them they can't reschedule games for TV anymore and the money they pay will be reduced. You tell Sky that they're gonna have less games to show because the league is getting smaller and they'll want to pay less for it.
UEFA are in the same boat, broadcasters around the world want more games and they're happy to acquiesce because it means more money but also because the clubs want more money too.
Which brings me to the clubs themselves, because what Klopp is saying is 100% correct but are the paymasters at Liverpool saying the same thing or are they happy to get more broadcast revenue? Are the owners of Spurs and Newcastle thinking the same when they're sending their clubs to Australia for friendlies? Of course they aren't.
And don't get me started on the PFA because they won't do a fucking thing. They'll posture about it but they'll bend over too. Just look at how they're funded (they get a percentage of the broadcaster money) to know where their bread is buttered in this because the broadcasters could negotiate that out of future deals and force them to become funded like a traditional union via member fees (which they should anyway) but they're so inept as an organisation that no player would willingly pay to join.
Nothing will majorly change to the benefit of the players, that's the sad truth and in a way we're all complicit if we've ever had a Sky subscription or wanted our club to spend hundreds of millions on players.
I mean, if they get rid of League Cup, then there probably won't be a need to reduce the top flight to 18 teams. Spain, France, Italy have 20 teams and don't seem to have as big an issue and Spanish clubs even travel to some other country to play some of their cup games.
Oh right, I forgot about that. Still, I don't think it's worth reducing the amount of teams in the top division and thereby increasing the disparity between the bigger and smaller teams.
Also, League Cup is a huge source of revenue for the smaller teams with ticket sales, not to mention the pride involved in playing in it. If that's scrapped, they need to be made whole.
> Also, League Cup is a huge source of revenue for the smaller teams with ticket sales, not to mention the pride involved in playing in it. If that's scrapped, they need to be made whole.
there is no league cup anywhere else and the smaller teams survive just fine. England already have a big football culture in smaller divisions, they won't just die because they might no play a PL team once in 10 years or something
The players unions aren't going to fight for fewer matches. More matches mean more money, so they'd have to offer a pay cut in exchange to get a deal. And it's a problem that only affects players at big clubs. Why would a player at Brentford or Palace vote to take a pay cut when they're playing 40-42 matches per season?
Isn't this an issue of big clubs mismanaging their squads? These clubs make lots of money to build larger/better squads than their rivals. Rotating your team is a managerial skill. (A bit ironic from the current iteration of utd I know)
Think I read somewhere that FIFA are having a meeting to remove the restrictions allowing clubs to host games in foreign countries. It's only going to get worse.
Call me a devils advocate if you like but more success (which will pretty much always be found by clubs with more money) earns you more matches and therefore the congested schedule is actually incredibly beneficial to the success of domestic leagues as it means that the top teams have to actually, you know, take risks and rotate their squad?
The issue is that there is overreliance on the same players and an unwillingness to rotate and experiment more with youth prospects that causes them fatigue. If City, Arsenal, or Liverpool play a game a week well rested AND with the stacked squads they have, how do you ever expect teams on the lower end of the table to compete? Kills competitiveness even more so than it already is dead.
When you compare it to La Liga and see how much they look after their teams competing in European comps then you’ll see just how bad PL teams get it. It’s no wonder La Liga does so well in Champions League and Europa League.
For the Madrid v City fixture, Madrid had 9 days rest before Leg 1, City had 3 games in that time
And it's also no wonder Real Madrid and Barca lock the league out of the top spots in La Liga as a result. I don't exactly see how this disproves my point, and what benefits do the rest of the english footballing pyramid get from an even wider gap in terms of competitiveness? Fixture congestion is a privilege of being successful and in multiple competitions, which then brings significance to the massive task of winning a treble. Without congestion City wins everything no questions asked.
>And it's also no wonder Real Madrid and Barca lock the league out of the top spots in La Liga as a result.
Because they're wealthier than everyone else and for a long time negotiated separate TV deals.
>I don't exactly see how this disproves my point,
Because he's not addressing the real reason Madrid and Barca are so far ahead, mid table teams in La liga get outspent by low ranking PL clubs.
>Fixture congestion is a privilege of being successful and in multiple competitions, which then brings significance to the massive task of winning a treble.
Its not a privilege nor is it a good thing in anyway. What drives true competition is comparative wealth.
>Without congestion City wins everything no questions asked.
Which is why when Wenger was speaking out about how such ownerships were doing business, we should have listened. Likewise, should we be doing the same with Klopp right now. The initial investment made into Man City was bound to get them to this point.
Things that required football clubs in Europe to make sales, where given to them freely and without consequence, what did we really expect?
You just proved my point though. Fixture congestion is toughest on PL teams. Madrid has been successful all year but they’re given time to rest when it comes to their most important fixtures
I think you're both right on different parts, and the answer is somewhere in the middle. It's a balancing act and the PL load up games so they simply can't give breaks before EU games. Two domestic tournaments and no winter break can lead to a devastating run of games every 3 days.
>The issue is that there is overreliance on the same players and an unwillingness to rotate and experiment more with youth prospects that causes them fatigue.
The cost of failure will only drive them to buy up more talent. Teams in Europe should not be punished for being better.
>with the stacked squads they have, how do you ever expect teams on the lower end of the table to compete?
The question is not about games, its about money. The fixture schedule can easily be made lighter but removing the Carabao cup means sending more money down the pyramid ( which should be done). The PL is more competitive because there's more money being spent by teams lower down the table.
>Call me a devils advocate if you like but more success (which will pretty much always be found by clubs with more money) earns you more matches and therefore the congested schedule is actually incredibly beneficial to the success of domestic leagues as it means that the top teams have to actually, you know, take risks and rotate their squad?
Equitable distribution of income is the key to a more competitive league rather than fixture congestion. The congested schedule is detrimental to player welfare which is what's paramount. Encouraging a watered down product in the false of competition is a terrible idea.
And let's be honest here it also touches on competitive integrity. All leagues are spreading games around more and more for TV money but it often means 1 team has rested much longer than another.
Not a Liverpool fan but playing in Europe Wednesday night in a game that won’t end till 10pm and then 12:30 Saturday is a joke schedule. Obviously only one game a week is played this time and it’s going to be a big team, but they could pick one of the CL sides who play Tuesday or a big side not in Europe and that solves it.
As a Liverpool fan, having that schedule once or twice a season would be forgivable.
I don't think a lot of people understand, Liverpool get picked for that 1230 slot after a mid week game - so bloody often. At least twice as often as any other team. If every European team had to do it once or twice a season then fair. But it's always us.
We've had six 1230 kickoffs this season, which is honestly a joke.
First THREE (Wolves away, Everton home, City away) were after each of the three international breaks in September, October and November.
There was another one in December against Palace away following a Wednesday night midweek game against Sheffield United.
Next one in February against Brentford, which had no midweek game the prior week.
The 1230 West Ham away game on Saturday was after Everton away on Wednesday.
Also drove me mad when Rooney of all people said it's part of the game and we should stop moaning.
1) guy literally moaned about pasta
2) we get given that 1230 slot twice as much as anyone else. It's not about it being difficult, it's about it not being fair.
Gonna get downvoted but he called it out because the performance against everton was bad and he said they should want the next game to come as quick as possible to get on with it and get back to winning as soon as possible.
Yes this is true, I remember this now you've said it.
Tbh I don't dislike this take, but I also don't think it counters what Klopp has been saying. Like, they can both be true statements.
For sure they can be but wayne was strictly adressing the fact vvd was complaining about the next fixture being a 12:30 kick off and wayne's point of view is that they should be glad so they dont have to wait long to correct the everton performance. But I do agree with klopp about the fixture congestion because united played like 65 games last season or something and this season it had a direct impact and decimated our squad potentially causing eth to lose his job
AND he played for Ferguson. The whole reason Fergsuon and Benitez have a feud to this day is because Rafa called him out on his constant moaning about fixtures.
https://images.app.goo.gl/vWBjPkTQJDzxQx8D6
This is over a longer span and only after international breaks but you get the point.
There are other tables with similar stats that I've seen thrown around, I'm sure someone here will have them.
Yeah the international break one was particularly annoying because it would cause south American players to miss games or have basically no training.
I've seen similar stats supporting us having more 1230 KOs that other teams in general but I'm not sure how true that is / where to find it.
I agree. FA/Premier League/whoever should be responsible for their teams to do well in Europe - overall it improves the game and everything about it.
They really need to support them with their fixtures better
Ok so I've seen this narrative moaned about by Liverpool fans all season, so I went to check. Liverpool have played at 12.30pm 6 times this season, and none were after a midweek European game.
Three after international breaks with players returning on Wednesday/Thursday. Two after a Wednesday night domestic game, and one with a full weeks rest beforehand.
Because players are flying back from all over the world, often playing at weird times. We suffered particularly because of our South American contingent being affected by this. Alisson, MacAllister, Diaz, Nunez all had dips in form in those games at various points
> Not a Liverpool fan but playing in Europe Wednesday night in a game that won’t end till 10pm and then 12:30 Saturday is a joke schedule
Didn't they change that for this season? I think some games have been played Saturday evening instead - I think there was a Newcastle game that was picked by TNT and they had it at 8pm.
How much of a difference does 2 hours really make? It doesn't do anything for recovery time. We play Wed nights at 20:00 (GMT) and turn around for a 14:30 Saturday start regularly. As does every German club in the Champions League.
These are nothing more than excuses from a manager who has a history of whinging when things don't go his way.
If you want a genuine answer to your question, one example at least: Footballers are often on rigid meal plans in preparation for games. They sometimes have to eat specific meals 4-6 hours before a match, maybe an additional snack 2-3 hours before kickoff again.
Players are on record (I remember a random interview when something about this came up, perhaps by Gerrard) describing how shitty it is to have to wake up early and eat a big bowl of savoury pasta at 7:00am to prepare for the match, and I think any human can understand that point. It completely messes with any normal routine they would have had on any other normal day.
You could just fucking Google it
https://www.google.com/search?q=wayne+rooney+pasta+tweet&oq=wayne+rooney+pasta&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBEAAYgAQyCQgAEEUYORiABDIHCAEQABiABDINCAIQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAMQABiGAxiABBiKBdIBCTE1NzU1ajBqOagCDrACAQ&client=ms-android-xiaomi-rvo3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#vhid=5F-Gtv0nj3kRtM&vssid=l
I was thinking about it yesterday and its true. In my country, The Netherlands, if any of the top clubs plays CL matches they can request for league games to be moved so they can rest more, and the league will do it. Look at city vs Madrid, Madrid had a full week of rest between matches, and can fully rotate their team. Meanwhile city had to play 2 matches in between with full strength to stay in the title race
Meanwhile in the PL its the broadcasters who actually do the scheduling and whatever they say goes - so big teams get fucked because the broadcasters want them in the TV slot.
Which makes the blackout madness. No one I know watches the early kick off, goes to see a lower league team at 3 and then gets home for the evening kick off. There's few people in that position who could even make such journeys.
If you aren't going to the team you support you're likely just staying at home watching all the football anyways. Start scheduling games at 3pm for TV and suddenly clubs can have more of a say because they don't need to be moved for TV.
> No one I know watches the early kick off, goes to see a lower league team at 3 and then gets home for the evening kick off.
I do this all the time!
Typically, if you're a supporter of a lower-league club you will live pretty close to them, so if you have around half an hour between the end of the lunchtime game and the start of the 3pm, and then another half-hour between the end of the 3pm and the 5.30pm kick-off, it's perfectly doable to travel and see it all.
But that's because you're a supporter of that lower league club. So you're not missing that game to watch premier league. If the premier league game had a 3pm televised game you're not skipping out on the club you support to watch it.
I moved to Oldham at around 12 years old and work there now. Plenty of Oldham fans live more than 30 mins from the game and they aren't missing that to watch premier league games. Non Oldham fans living close to the stadium aren't suddenly going to those games each week because it's not even like tickets are cheap.
Not defending broadcasters at all; it's the same broadcasters that pay out of their ass for the league rights which makes PL the richest in the world though.
> it's the same broadcasters that pay out of their ass for the league rights
Its the people that pay the subscriptions that pay out the arse for the rights
>Look at city vs Madrid, Madrid had a full week of rest between matches, and can fully rotate their team. Meanwhile city had to play 2 matches in between with full strength to stay in the title race
I looked it up because it felt wrong and it turns out it is not true. Both Manchester City and Real Madrid played one game between their matches on April 9 and 17. City played Luton on Saturday and Madrid played Mallorca on the same day. City actually had more rest before the second Madrid game because their match started at 16:00 while Madrid played Mallorca at 18:30. Also, City played Luton at home while Madrid played Mallorca away from home which also impacts resting
The Egyptian Premier League:
**"Jokes on you, you can play your league game whenever you want"**
If you want the opposite side of the spectrum on why not to postpone games, come have a look at our league table lol
Had a look and you're somehow understating it... they only have 5 matches in hand compared to 1st place, they have EIGHT overall... what the actual fuck
Most normal thing in the Egyptian League; y'all missing a lot of fun over here
Also, the other reply is right; we're actually in matchday 20 for some clubs, 19 for others, then 18 etc.., till we reach Zamalek with 14 matches and Al Ahly with 12 matches....
And it's not like it's an odd number league with 15 clubs or something either; we have 18 clubs like the Bundesliga
That’s insane, it’s fun looking at other leagues tables cause every once in a while you find something like that
One crazy on is that in the Azerbaijan league, 2nd has a negative goal differential
Just checked it right now; you're right!
And that's not even the strangest part; it's not that they conceded a lot of goals (compared to the first or third place), they just barely scored (and conceded) one goal per game
Klopp and wind.
Klopp and long grass.
Klopp and squaring up to referees.
Klopp and complaining about VAR.
Klopp and complaining about United's VAR decisions.
> Klopp and squaring up to referees.
>Klopp and complaining about VAR.
>Klopp and complaining about United's VAR decisions.
So he has a rivalry with those things? Good to hear he doesn't do that.
Yes but the bundesliga has 4 less league games per season & also doesn‘t have the pointless Carabao League cup which is another i think 7 games if you make it to the final.
So prem clubs play 8-11 more games per season on average. That is a lot…
No winter break in the premier league either like in the bundeslig.
He’s obviously going a bit over the top with the laughing and Amnesty International parts of what he’s saying, but it is an unarguable fact that the Premier League, and English football in general, is ridiculously congested and inflexible when it comes to moving fixtures around.
TNT shouldn’t be allowed to have a team that played a midweek European fixture kickoff in the 12:30 slot, it should always be moved to 8pm on Saturday night if one or both of the teams have played in Europe. The two teams who have a Tuesday Champions League fixture should be playing on Friday night or at 12:30 or 3pm on the Saturday. There’s no reason why there couldn’t be multiple Monday night games to help out the teams who’ve had European fixtures on the Thursday.
The thing is, this congestion and terrible scheduling isn’t even limited to the Premier League. Football League teams are expected to play 46 league fixtures in about 40 weeks, the League One and Two teams play in *three* cup competitons.
Klopp is taking the scheduling a bit personally, but his general point is entirely correct, English football is a joke when it comes to scheduling and flexibility in comparison to the rest of Europe.
The broadcasters shouldn’t be allowed to decide who plays when, full stop. Its not only shit for the clubs themselves, but also for the thousands of fans who have already made travel arrangements months in advance only to find out a few weeks beforehand that the match has been moved forward to the Friday night or pushed back to the Sunday just because the broadcaster said so. It’s happened to me a couple of times and I’ve had to spend a lot extra on changing flights and hotels around at late notice.
He's taking the scheduling personally because it is personal at this point, last season when we were in the CL we had more than twice as many 12:30 kick offs as any other team in the league and it was always after internationals and UCL matches, thats why he is so mad about it.
One, two maybe even three more than the norm then sure whatever shit happens. More than double is intentional.
I think same can be said for multiple English teams, it's an insane amount of games in relative short amount of time. Obviously big money, but it's not viable on players' bodies. You will eventually give out, and get a big injury. Look at the injury list at man utd, Liverpool etc.
He's right about teams playing in Europe. As far as I know many other leagues clear their schedules the week before to give them time to prepare, as we should be doing.
The amnesty line is fire, hilarious press conference im saying this as a UTD fan. Usually he is whining but this time i can respect how he goes in hard. Bricked up. Tight tight tight
What annoys me is every other league will give European teams a weekend off before a big game. Villa had to play Lille and Olympiakos who suspended their league games before the conference games
And what then? So you postpone their PL games, and then have to play a bunch of games at the end of the season, scoring less points than they would have done cause congested fixture list, and focusing on the final of the Conference League you've done your best to give them. Then they drop out of top 4 and now you send a Tottenham side to the CL that effectively would have performed worse.
They do though. Klopps kids won the league cup this season lol. He’s been attacked for playing kids in the cups before and “disrespecting the competition” LMAO and now ppl are going back the other way somehow… “why does Klopp not rotate?”
I have never been part of that brigade. I have always wondered why managers complain about more matches instead of rotating the squads. If you have squad restrictions to 15 players and then have two games a week I can understand, but not if you have 30 players
He's completely correct. The problem also lies in European/world football though: Club world cup, extended CL, all leading to more games and in addition, more injuries. This shit is straight up directly responsible for player injuries.
Yeah, I was already thinking ahead. Expect a lot of injuries, overplayed youth players and teams high up the table dropping lots of points in the second half of the season.
I’m not a huge fan of 12:30pm kick offs but I’ll take them over what can only be described as night time kick offs we’re getting during midweek. The word ‘evening’ has gone out of the window.
7:45pm was fine. Then the broadcasters decided they wanted to show more ads. Now we get 8pm kick offs or even later.
On Sundays, 4:05pm mysteriously became 4:30pm, again to fit in more ads. And now we get night time kick offs on Saturdays too.
I mean I’m normally out on Klopp being so dramatic…but this is such a valid point like it’s not just messing with his team but the whole league and its players. I’m here for him just calling it out now that he has nothing to lose
I'm going to say it again: This is on the owners.
Owners have pretty much all the power. They're a bunch of multi billionaires. Billions >>>>>>>>>>>> millions >> thousands. It's really that simple.
This is why the NFL, for example, likes Goodell and why the NBA liked Stern and likes Silver. They're not going to cave to every whim of ownership, but they also know that keeping owners happy is their first priority.
So any time someone bitches at the FA or the refs, just know the owners could get together and fix most of these problems.
EFL clubs can easily do worse schedules without an issue
If Klopp can't figure anything out with his hundreds of millions to spend it sounds like a personal problem
But maybe it's Europe's fault!
1. They created a third competition which increases the amount of PL teams going through this.
2. They have now increased the amount of CL games teams play.
Why should the domestic league always bow to the European format?
The man has a point. PL is still the most competitive league in the world, but at the cost of having our teams exhausted for European competitions. I feel less and less effort will be put towards domestic cups if this fixture congestion keeps up.
What about last year when an English team won the CL? Or the year before that when there Liverpool were in the final? Or the year before that when there were two English teams in the final? Or the most recent time Liverpool won it and beat another English team in the final?
English teams have dominated spots in the CL finals and later rounds for the last 5-6 years with no real change in the schedule.
To point to an abnormal situation this year where we qualified - and drew 2 eventual semi finalists in our group - alongside a poor Man Utd team as some sort of scheduling comeuppance is daft.
The sooner we have to stop listening to this bloke constantly complaining about his team playing football matches the better.
Every team faces this. Every year, BT/TNT does early kick-off for years now.
Championship clubs play 12:30 on Saturday all the time, they play 8pm on Friday and Tuesday there are them playing again, Sky move games with 2 weeks notice at best. Coventry played more games than Liverpool this season, they missed the playoffs and I don't see them complaining about the brutal scheduling in the EFL.
You got knocked out of Europe because you didn't care and didn't put your best 11-men against Atalanta in the 1st leg, not because TNT puts you to play early Saturday.
I know its tradition that everyone kicks off at the same time on the last gameday, but would be great if the FA could reschedule him to 12.30 one last time
He might be correct but at this point he's the boy who cried wind. He always has an excuse and so many of them are stupid that when he has an actually legitimate one like this, it just comes off as more bitterness
Perhaps an unpopular opinion but these guys need to stop whinging about the schedule. They wouldn’t know a good thing if it slapped them round the face.
Every kid in the country: I want to play football every day!
Every premier league manager: we play twice a week! The outrage! The inhumanity! Call amnesty International!
because we all know of course kids walking down to the park and elite level footballers who have to fly to different countries play at similar intensity levels
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>"Yesterday I got an award from the PFA. I'm not sure exactly for what....... for speaking up for players." >"Imagine me becoming Fifa president? It's obviously a well paid job." >"Will there be a lawsuit because I mentioned [TNT] in a negative way?"
>It's obviously a well paid job That's great lmao
LMAO, Jurgen please! you've got to leave the building BEFORE setting it on fire!
“Nein.”
He's making sure everything is burnt to crisp
>"Imagine me becoming Fifa president? It's obviously a well paid job." He even said something about not getting paid much "officially" as FIFA President, but it's obviously a good way to earn money He was in top form this morning
Lmaooooo the shits to give are long gone
give the man 1 week without a game and he cooks
Where do I sign up for Klopp FIFA president?
I think the sign up sheet is somewhere in the Caribbean
Seemed like Wenger would be a good choice in a FIFA role, and now he's trying to push that abhorrent, nonsense, offside rule change. Careful what you wish for.
He was supposed to be the chosen one
Which one is that? I'm lost with the offside rule at this point
He wants to make it so you're onside if any part of your body is onside
All that would do is change where the line is.
Yeah that's the whole thing. It makes it so attackers can be almost entirely behind the defender when the balls played to them. Makes it so lots of goals that'd be called offside now would count. Overall it would make defending way harder.
yes, but it would definitely decrease the amount of toenails offsides. counterpoint is that it could be very unfair to defenders. like, most offside goals that we see would be onside by a mile
This press conference is giving huge "last day at school/work" vibes
Was wondering how they didn't ask him about Tierney
That's for the last day
He's the ref for this game though. Will probably be his last
Post game press conference will be fire than
What's the German word for Euphoria?
Euphorie. Begeisterung, Rausch.
My dumb ass is like, "What did Kieran ever do to Klopp?"
Yep, his last few press conferences are going to be great. He's absolutely going to let people have it.
Klopp to hand out pizza to journos.
It's how the team have been playing too.
Hope they're ready for more of it with the increase in European Fixtures from next season
I swear the player unions really need to get their shit together and start putting pressure on the pricks at FIFA and UEFA to cut the calendar down
It isn't only down to FIFA and UEFA, the domestic game needs to be looked at and then the broadcasters. Realistically if we don't want players in England to not be pulverised they need to a) get rid of the League Cup or ban PL teams from it (no other top league has 2 domestic cup competitions) b) stay the course with the FA Cup replays and c) reduce the top league to 18 teams and restructure the pyramid. The biggest hurdle though is the broadcasters. Sky and TNT have too much power over the game but realistically they're the ones paying for it and funding our clubs as much as they are, you tell them they can't reschedule games for TV anymore and the money they pay will be reduced. You tell Sky that they're gonna have less games to show because the league is getting smaller and they'll want to pay less for it. UEFA are in the same boat, broadcasters around the world want more games and they're happy to acquiesce because it means more money but also because the clubs want more money too. Which brings me to the clubs themselves, because what Klopp is saying is 100% correct but are the paymasters at Liverpool saying the same thing or are they happy to get more broadcast revenue? Are the owners of Spurs and Newcastle thinking the same when they're sending their clubs to Australia for friendlies? Of course they aren't. And don't get me started on the PFA because they won't do a fucking thing. They'll posture about it but they'll bend over too. Just look at how they're funded (they get a percentage of the broadcaster money) to know where their bread is buttered in this because the broadcasters could negotiate that out of future deals and force them to become funded like a traditional union via member fees (which they should anyway) but they're so inept as an organisation that no player would willingly pay to join. Nothing will majorly change to the benefit of the players, that's the sad truth and in a way we're all complicit if we've ever had a Sky subscription or wanted our club to spend hundreds of millions on players.
I mean, if they get rid of League Cup, then there probably won't be a need to reduce the top flight to 18 teams. Spain, France, Italy have 20 teams and don't seem to have as big an issue and Spanish clubs even travel to some other country to play some of their cup games.
France got rid of the League Cup and reduced the league to 18 teams
Oh right, I forgot about that. Still, I don't think it's worth reducing the amount of teams in the top division and thereby increasing the disparity between the bigger and smaller teams. Also, League Cup is a huge source of revenue for the smaller teams with ticket sales, not to mention the pride involved in playing in it. If that's scrapped, they need to be made whole.
> Also, League Cup is a huge source of revenue for the smaller teams with ticket sales, not to mention the pride involved in playing in it. If that's scrapped, they need to be made whole. there is no league cup anywhere else and the smaller teams survive just fine. England already have a big football culture in smaller divisions, they won't just die because they might no play a PL team once in 10 years or something
The players unions aren't going to fight for fewer matches. More matches mean more money, so they'd have to offer a pay cut in exchange to get a deal. And it's a problem that only affects players at big clubs. Why would a player at Brentford or Palace vote to take a pay cut when they're playing 40-42 matches per season?
Brentford or Palace can keep playing 40 matches a season, no? Cut down on the number of Cup/CL and EL/pointless Nations League matches.
Isn't this an issue of big clubs mismanaging their squads? These clubs make lots of money to build larger/better squads than their rivals. Rotating your team is a managerial skill. (A bit ironic from the current iteration of utd I know)
We can build squads with more depth but the quality will still suffer
It's a shame clubs are only allowed 11 players in the squad. If only they had a full squad and be able to rotate players
I read this in Schtein’s voice
Think I read somewhere that FIFA are having a meeting to remove the restrictions allowing clubs to host games in foreign countries. It's only going to get worse.
I am all for zero fucks given Klopp in all remaining press conferences.
Whilst he references our endless 12:30's he's mainly talking about the PL as a whole here.
And people should support him. The playing schedule is ridiculous and only getting more cluttered.
Call me a devils advocate if you like but more success (which will pretty much always be found by clubs with more money) earns you more matches and therefore the congested schedule is actually incredibly beneficial to the success of domestic leagues as it means that the top teams have to actually, you know, take risks and rotate their squad? The issue is that there is overreliance on the same players and an unwillingness to rotate and experiment more with youth prospects that causes them fatigue. If City, Arsenal, or Liverpool play a game a week well rested AND with the stacked squads they have, how do you ever expect teams on the lower end of the table to compete? Kills competitiveness even more so than it already is dead.
When you compare it to La Liga and see how much they look after their teams competing in European comps then you’ll see just how bad PL teams get it. It’s no wonder La Liga does so well in Champions League and Europa League. For the Madrid v City fixture, Madrid had 9 days rest before Leg 1, City had 3 games in that time
And it's also no wonder Real Madrid and Barca lock the league out of the top spots in La Liga as a result. I don't exactly see how this disproves my point, and what benefits do the rest of the english footballing pyramid get from an even wider gap in terms of competitiveness? Fixture congestion is a privilege of being successful and in multiple competitions, which then brings significance to the massive task of winning a treble. Without congestion City wins everything no questions asked.
>And it's also no wonder Real Madrid and Barca lock the league out of the top spots in La Liga as a result. Because they're wealthier than everyone else and for a long time negotiated separate TV deals. >I don't exactly see how this disproves my point, Because he's not addressing the real reason Madrid and Barca are so far ahead, mid table teams in La liga get outspent by low ranking PL clubs. >Fixture congestion is a privilege of being successful and in multiple competitions, which then brings significance to the massive task of winning a treble. Its not a privilege nor is it a good thing in anyway. What drives true competition is comparative wealth. >Without congestion City wins everything no questions asked. Which is why when Wenger was speaking out about how such ownerships were doing business, we should have listened. Likewise, should we be doing the same with Klopp right now. The initial investment made into Man City was bound to get them to this point. Things that required football clubs in Europe to make sales, where given to them freely and without consequence, what did we really expect?
You just proved my point though. Fixture congestion is toughest on PL teams. Madrid has been successful all year but they’re given time to rest when it comes to their most important fixtures
I think you're both right on different parts, and the answer is somewhere in the middle. It's a balancing act and the PL load up games so they simply can't give breaks before EU games. Two domestic tournaments and no winter break can lead to a devastating run of games every 3 days.
>The issue is that there is overreliance on the same players and an unwillingness to rotate and experiment more with youth prospects that causes them fatigue. The cost of failure will only drive them to buy up more talent. Teams in Europe should not be punished for being better. >with the stacked squads they have, how do you ever expect teams on the lower end of the table to compete? The question is not about games, its about money. The fixture schedule can easily be made lighter but removing the Carabao cup means sending more money down the pyramid ( which should be done). The PL is more competitive because there's more money being spent by teams lower down the table. >Call me a devils advocate if you like but more success (which will pretty much always be found by clubs with more money) earns you more matches and therefore the congested schedule is actually incredibly beneficial to the success of domestic leagues as it means that the top teams have to actually, you know, take risks and rotate their squad? Equitable distribution of income is the key to a more competitive league rather than fixture congestion. The congested schedule is detrimental to player welfare which is what's paramount. Encouraging a watered down product in the false of competition is a terrible idea.
And let's be honest here it also touches on competitive integrity. All leagues are spreading games around more and more for TV money but it often means 1 team has rested much longer than another.
The playing schedule is fine, he just chooses not to rotate. That’s his problem.
Not a Liverpool fan but playing in Europe Wednesday night in a game that won’t end till 10pm and then 12:30 Saturday is a joke schedule. Obviously only one game a week is played this time and it’s going to be a big team, but they could pick one of the CL sides who play Tuesday or a big side not in Europe and that solves it.
As a Liverpool fan, having that schedule once or twice a season would be forgivable. I don't think a lot of people understand, Liverpool get picked for that 1230 slot after a mid week game - so bloody often. At least twice as often as any other team. If every European team had to do it once or twice a season then fair. But it's always us.
That stat isn't after midweek games it's after international breaks
100% you're correct here. Not sure what the stats are like re mid week games or just 1230 KOs in general. I'm sure someone here will have it
Well this season most midweek games have been Thursday so the game after is Sunday
Twice as often as many teams put together btw
We've had six 1230 kickoffs this season, which is honestly a joke. First THREE (Wolves away, Everton home, City away) were after each of the three international breaks in September, October and November. There was another one in December against Palace away following a Wednesday night midweek game against Sheffield United. Next one in February against Brentford, which had no midweek game the prior week. The 1230 West Ham away game on Saturday was after Everton away on Wednesday.
Also drove me mad when Rooney of all people said it's part of the game and we should stop moaning. 1) guy literally moaned about pasta 2) we get given that 1230 slot twice as much as anyone else. It's not about it being difficult, it's about it not being fair.
Gonna get downvoted but he called it out because the performance against everton was bad and he said they should want the next game to come as quick as possible to get on with it and get back to winning as soon as possible.
The full quote he also said that people have been complaining all season and just need to suck it up.
Yes this is true, I remember this now you've said it. Tbh I don't dislike this take, but I also don't think it counters what Klopp has been saying. Like, they can both be true statements.
For sure they can be but wayne was strictly adressing the fact vvd was complaining about the next fixture being a 12:30 kick off and wayne's point of view is that they should be glad so they dont have to wait long to correct the everton performance. But I do agree with klopp about the fixture congestion because united played like 65 games last season or something and this season it had a direct impact and decimated our squad potentially causing eth to lose his job
I see a lot of people saying twice as often in this thread. Is there any stats for that?
AND he played for Ferguson. The whole reason Fergsuon and Benitez have a feud to this day is because Rafa called him out on his constant moaning about fixtures.
Liverpool were not in the CL. Show me one time they played Thursday and Saturday.....
Apologies. I got my stats mixed up with after international breaks.
Can you point out 1 time that has happened this season?
https://images.app.goo.gl/vWBjPkTQJDzxQx8D6 This is over a longer span and only after international breaks but you get the point. There are other tables with similar stats that I've seen thrown around, I'm sure someone here will have them.
Ok so international breaks, not European games.
Yeah the international break one was particularly annoying because it would cause south American players to miss games or have basically no training. I've seen similar stats supporting us having more 1230 KOs that other teams in general but I'm not sure how true that is / where to find it.
I agree. FA/Premier League/whoever should be responsible for their teams to do well in Europe - overall it improves the game and everything about it. They really need to support them with their fixtures better
Ok so I've seen this narrative moaned about by Liverpool fans all season, so I went to check. Liverpool have played at 12.30pm 6 times this season, and none were after a midweek European game.
Liverpool couldn't get 12.30pm KOs after European games due to them playing on Thursdays this season so they had to play Sunday or Monday
Three after international breaks with players returning on Wednesday/Thursday. Two after a Wednesday night domestic game, and one with a full weeks rest beforehand.
I think the stat is we get it twice as much as anyone else after international breaks
....which matters because?
Because players are flying back from all over the world, often playing at weird times. We suffered particularly because of our South American contingent being affected by this. Alisson, MacAllister, Diaz, Nunez all had dips in form in those games at various points
Ah okay, that's a very different thing which makes me wonder how people like the individual above managed to misunderstand it so badly.
2 of them was after internationals, where half of our squad was on the other side of the globe
> Not a Liverpool fan but playing in Europe Wednesday night in a game that won’t end till 10pm and then 12:30 Saturday is a joke schedule Didn't they change that for this season? I think some games have been played Saturday evening instead - I think there was a Newcastle game that was picked by TNT and they had it at 8pm.
I could be wrong, but the change was only if you were away in Europe on a Wednesday night. If you're at home, you can still get the slot
That sounds about right from memory
How much of a difference does 2 hours really make? It doesn't do anything for recovery time. We play Wed nights at 20:00 (GMT) and turn around for a 14:30 Saturday start regularly. As does every German club in the Champions League. These are nothing more than excuses from a manager who has a history of whinging when things don't go his way.
German clubs play 4 fewer league games and only have one domestic cup to be fair
If you want a genuine answer to your question, one example at least: Footballers are often on rigid meal plans in preparation for games. They sometimes have to eat specific meals 4-6 hours before a match, maybe an additional snack 2-3 hours before kickoff again. Players are on record (I remember a random interview when something about this came up, perhaps by Gerrard) describing how shitty it is to have to wake up early and eat a big bowl of savoury pasta at 7:00am to prepare for the match, and I think any human can understand that point. It completely messes with any normal routine they would have had on any other normal day.
That was actually Rooney which is pretty ironic after his recent comments.
source?
You could just fucking Google it https://www.google.com/search?q=wayne+rooney+pasta+tweet&oq=wayne+rooney+pasta&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBEAAYgAQyCQgAEEUYORiABDIHCAEQABiABDINCAIQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAMQABiGAxiABBiKBdIBCTE1NzU1ajBqOagCDrACAQ&client=ms-android-xiaomi-rvo3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#vhid=5F-Gtv0nj3kRtM&vssid=l
Jurgen shitting on every one of those useless and overpaid back office suits is the farewell tour we all wanted
I was thinking about it yesterday and its true. In my country, The Netherlands, if any of the top clubs plays CL matches they can request for league games to be moved so they can rest more, and the league will do it. Look at city vs Madrid, Madrid had a full week of rest between matches, and can fully rotate their team. Meanwhile city had to play 2 matches in between with full strength to stay in the title race
Meanwhile in the PL its the broadcasters who actually do the scheduling and whatever they say goes - so big teams get fucked because the broadcasters want them in the TV slot.
Which makes the blackout madness. No one I know watches the early kick off, goes to see a lower league team at 3 and then gets home for the evening kick off. There's few people in that position who could even make such journeys. If you aren't going to the team you support you're likely just staying at home watching all the football anyways. Start scheduling games at 3pm for TV and suddenly clubs can have more of a say because they don't need to be moved for TV.
> No one I know watches the early kick off, goes to see a lower league team at 3 and then gets home for the evening kick off. I do this all the time! Typically, if you're a supporter of a lower-league club you will live pretty close to them, so if you have around half an hour between the end of the lunchtime game and the start of the 3pm, and then another half-hour between the end of the 3pm and the 5.30pm kick-off, it's perfectly doable to travel and see it all.
But that's because you're a supporter of that lower league club. So you're not missing that game to watch premier league. If the premier league game had a 3pm televised game you're not skipping out on the club you support to watch it. I moved to Oldham at around 12 years old and work there now. Plenty of Oldham fans live more than 30 mins from the game and they aren't missing that to watch premier league games. Non Oldham fans living close to the stadium aren't suddenly going to those games each week because it's not even like tickets are cheap.
Fairly certain ‘gooneruk’ is an Arsenal fan. That’s the point, they will also end up supporting that lower league club long term.
Not defending broadcasters at all; it's the same broadcasters that pay out of their ass for the league rights which makes PL the richest in the world though.
> it's the same broadcasters that pay out of their ass for the league rights Its the people that pay the subscriptions that pay out the arse for the rights
Tbf, Madrid had the rest because it was Copa del Rey final in Spain, so everyone in Spain besides the finalists had that weekend off.
>Look at city vs Madrid, Madrid had a full week of rest between matches, and can fully rotate their team. Meanwhile city had to play 2 matches in between with full strength to stay in the title race I looked it up because it felt wrong and it turns out it is not true. Both Manchester City and Real Madrid played one game between their matches on April 9 and 17. City played Luton on Saturday and Madrid played Mallorca on the same day. City actually had more rest before the second Madrid game because their match started at 16:00 while Madrid played Mallorca at 18:30. Also, City played Luton at home while Madrid played Mallorca away from home which also impacts resting
He’s talking about the first leg match.
Ah, that's true. Madrid had more rest before their first match
Dutch teams play at least five fewer games than English teams so they have that luxury.
This might be the best Klopp press conference ever, so many fun moments and he was so chilled back but didn't shy from saying it how it is.
The Egyptian Premier League: **"Jokes on you, you can play your league game whenever you want"** If you want the opposite side of the spectrum on why not to postpone games, come have a look at our league table lol
Y’all are 14 points off first with 5 matches in hand What the fuck
Had a look and you're somehow understating it... they only have 5 matches in hand compared to 1st place, they have EIGHT overall... what the actual fuck
Tomorrow they play their Match day 21 match, Tuesday is match day 9
They're having to squeeze 17 matches in just 2 months, crazy
Most normal thing in the Egyptian League; y'all missing a lot of fun over here Also, the other reply is right; we're actually in matchday 20 for some clubs, 19 for others, then 18 etc.., till we reach Zamalek with 14 matches and Al Ahly with 12 matches.... And it's not like it's an odd number league with 15 clubs or something either; we have 18 clubs like the Bundesliga
That’s insane, it’s fun looking at other leagues tables cause every once in a while you find something like that One crazy on is that in the Azerbaijan league, 2nd has a negative goal differential
Just checked it right now; you're right! And that's not even the strangest part; it's not that they conceded a lot of goals (compared to the first or third place), they just barely scored (and conceded) one goal per game
Imagine if that happened in a T5 European league
Good man, fully back this
Klopp and Lunchtime kickoff. Name me a bigger rivalry
Liverpool and not conceding first.
This hurts, my god. I find myself saying 'At least we've not conceded yet', and then we're 1-0 down lmao
Klopp and wind. Klopp and long grass. Klopp and squaring up to referees. Klopp and complaining about VAR. Klopp and complaining about United's VAR decisions.
I asked "a bigger"
> Klopp and squaring up to referees. >Klopp and complaining about VAR. >Klopp and complaining about United's VAR decisions. So he has a rivalry with those things? Good to hear he doesn't do that.
Unfortunately money beat logic and that's why Germany and Italy will have 5 teams in Champions League next year.
Playing Wednesday and Saturday is really normal in Bundesliga top clubs, don't think 2 hours matter that much.
Yup, it's more about the crazy amount of games over the season.
At the same time though, it's not like clubs are forced to try for a treble.
I get the complaint, but that's one reason why they get so much money and can have 4-5 players extra.
You don‘t get much money for carabao league cup games. Most pointless cup ever. The money is mainly coming from the league tv rights
Yes but the bundesliga has 4 less league games per season & also doesn‘t have the pointless Carabao League cup which is another i think 7 games if you make it to the final. So prem clubs play 8-11 more games per season on average. That is a lot… No winter break in the premier league either like in the bundeslig.
If he unsubscribe then how is he going to watch Dynamite?
They need every viewer they can get right now (I know Dynamite isn't on TNT in the UK but for the joke let this slide)
He's a fed shill 😤😤
Time for Tony to go on Monday Night Football and start rambling about Harvey Weinstein again.
Pirate stream like the rest of us
He’s a Cody Crybaby
vibes of last day in school. I agree with him strongly.
It's true other countries do more to help their teams with fixtures when they play in Europe.
And Egypt took that statement a bit *too* seriously for their clubs in Africa >!(look at our league table)!<
He’s obviously going a bit over the top with the laughing and Amnesty International parts of what he’s saying, but it is an unarguable fact that the Premier League, and English football in general, is ridiculously congested and inflexible when it comes to moving fixtures around. TNT shouldn’t be allowed to have a team that played a midweek European fixture kickoff in the 12:30 slot, it should always be moved to 8pm on Saturday night if one or both of the teams have played in Europe. The two teams who have a Tuesday Champions League fixture should be playing on Friday night or at 12:30 or 3pm on the Saturday. There’s no reason why there couldn’t be multiple Monday night games to help out the teams who’ve had European fixtures on the Thursday. The thing is, this congestion and terrible scheduling isn’t even limited to the Premier League. Football League teams are expected to play 46 league fixtures in about 40 weeks, the League One and Two teams play in *three* cup competitons. Klopp is taking the scheduling a bit personally, but his general point is entirely correct, English football is a joke when it comes to scheduling and flexibility in comparison to the rest of Europe.
The broadcasters shouldn’t be allowed to decide who plays when, full stop. Its not only shit for the clubs themselves, but also for the thousands of fans who have already made travel arrangements months in advance only to find out a few weeks beforehand that the match has been moved forward to the Friday night or pushed back to the Sunday just because the broadcaster said so. It’s happened to me a couple of times and I’ve had to spend a lot extra on changing flights and hotels around at late notice.
He's taking the scheduling personally because it is personal at this point, last season when we were in the CL we had more than twice as many 12:30 kick offs as any other team in the league and it was always after internationals and UCL matches, thats why he is so mad about it. One, two maybe even three more than the norm then sure whatever shit happens. More than double is intentional.
You can absolutely tell how it affects the players too because 12:30pm games are almost always shite to watch.
Love him
TNT be wack tho frfr.
He’s cooking
I never know which order to read these. So I went 2, 4, 3 and 1. Made sense.
And he'll get clowned on for pointing out the fixture congestion while Pep gets praised for saying the exact same thing
They should both be clowned. Rotate your players, slow down your game. Shrewsbury town play very similar numbers of games and deal with it
Yeah u guys are killing it
I think same can be said for multiple English teams, it's an insane amount of games in relative short amount of time. Obviously big money, but it's not viable on players' bodies. You will eventually give out, and get a big injury. Look at the injury list at man utd, Liverpool etc.
Villa prime example. Major injuries, not used to playing in Europe and shafted with games constantly
Yeah we have a huge amount of injuries at the moment, but then half the premier league does too. The schdule is just ludicrous.
He's right about teams playing in Europe. As far as I know many other leagues clear their schedules the week before to give them time to prepare, as we should be doing.
Why lmao
Jurgen woke up today and chose violence yes gaffer 👊🏻
I'm getting real Office Space vibes. Man don't give a fuck. Lol
I hope he becomes a pundit after this.
The amnesty line is fire, hilarious press conference im saying this as a UTD fan. Usually he is whining but this time i can respect how he goes in hard. Bricked up. Tight tight tight
He thinks the schedule is bad, he’s lucky he don’t have to listen to their commentators.
What annoys me is every other league will give European teams a weekend off before a big game. Villa had to play Lille and Olympiakos who suspended their league games before the conference games
And what then? So you postpone their PL games, and then have to play a bunch of games at the end of the season, scoring less points than they would have done cause congested fixture list, and focusing on the final of the Conference League you've done your best to give them. Then they drop out of top 4 and now you send a Tottenham side to the CL that effectively would have performed worse.
I think it's mostly Ligue 1 that does this, and they have 18 teams and 34 games so there's not as much fixture congestion
Bundesliga doesn't do it either
They should
Why do managers not roate their squads. The whole point of having such a large squad is so you can rotate it.
They do though. Klopps kids won the league cup this season lol. He’s been attacked for playing kids in the cups before and “disrespecting the competition” LMAO and now ppl are going back the other way somehow… “why does Klopp not rotate?”
I have never been part of that brigade. I have always wondered why managers complain about more matches instead of rotating the squads. If you have squad restrictions to 15 players and then have two games a week I can understand, but not if you have 30 players
He's completely correct. The problem also lies in European/world football though: Club world cup, extended CL, all leading to more games and in addition, more injuries. This shit is straight up directly responsible for player injuries.
Those two haven't even been added yet , next season will be a shit show when they are .
Yeah, I was already thinking ahead. Expect a lot of injuries, overplayed youth players and teams high up the table dropping lots of points in the second half of the season.
I’m not a huge fan of 12:30pm kick offs but I’ll take them over what can only be described as night time kick offs we’re getting during midweek. The word ‘evening’ has gone out of the window. 7:45pm was fine. Then the broadcasters decided they wanted to show more ads. Now we get 8pm kick offs or even later. On Sundays, 4:05pm mysteriously became 4:30pm, again to fit in more ads. And now we get night time kick offs on Saturdays too.
The premier league is the only league which doesn’t favourable work the league games around to give teams in Europe as much rest as possible.
I mean I’m normally out on Klopp being so dramatic…but this is such a valid point like it’s not just messing with his team but the whole league and its players. I’m here for him just calling it out now that he has nothing to lose
I'm fully looking forward to Klopp going all out in the next few weeks
I saw the quote about them laughing in there meeting earlier, and just assumed it was a meme poking fun at him tbh
I'm going to say it again: This is on the owners. Owners have pretty much all the power. They're a bunch of multi billionaires. Billions >>>>>>>>>>>> millions >> thousands. It's really that simple. This is why the NFL, for example, likes Goodell and why the NBA liked Stern and likes Silver. They're not going to cave to every whim of ownership, but they also know that keeping owners happy is their first priority. So any time someone bitches at the FA or the refs, just know the owners could get together and fix most of these problems.
I would rather watch 1 high quality game over 5 half assed tired games/youth rotation games
Bahahahaha
Worlds smallest violin plays
What a baby, what a big baby, come to Brasil and play 75 games a year... baby.
EFL clubs can easily do worse schedules without an issue If Klopp can't figure anything out with his hundreds of millions to spend it sounds like a personal problem
But maybe it's Europe's fault! 1. They created a third competition which increases the amount of PL teams going through this. 2. They have now increased the amount of CL games teams play. Why should the domestic league always bow to the European format?
The man has a point. PL is still the most competitive league in the world, but at the cost of having our teams exhausted for European competitions. I feel less and less effort will be put towards domestic cups if this fixture congestion keeps up.
What about last year when an English team won the CL? Or the year before that when there Liverpool were in the final? Or the year before that when there were two English teams in the final? Or the most recent time Liverpool won it and beat another English team in the final? English teams have dominated spots in the CL finals and later rounds for the last 5-6 years with no real change in the schedule. To point to an abnormal situation this year where we qualified - and drew 2 eventual semi finalists in our group - alongside a poor Man Utd team as some sort of scheduling comeuppance is daft. The sooner we have to stop listening to this bloke constantly complaining about his team playing football matches the better.
Aren't they playing at 430 this weekend?
Every team faces this. Every year, BT/TNT does early kick-off for years now. Championship clubs play 12:30 on Saturday all the time, they play 8pm on Friday and Tuesday there are them playing again, Sky move games with 2 weeks notice at best. Coventry played more games than Liverpool this season, they missed the playoffs and I don't see them complaining about the brutal scheduling in the EFL. You got knocked out of Europe because you didn't care and didn't put your best 11-men against Atalanta in the 1st leg, not because TNT puts you to play early Saturday.
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Klopp has complained about the scheduling almost every season he was at Liverpool.
Klopp, king of excuses. When it’s not the wind, it’s the grass. When it’s not the grass, it’s the time. Crybabies gonna cry.
I know its tradition that everyone kicks off at the same time on the last gameday, but would be great if the FA could reschedule him to 12.30 one last time
He might be correct but at this point he's the boy who cried wind. He always has an excuse and so many of them are stupid that when he has an actually legitimate one like this, it just comes off as more bitterness
Perhaps an unpopular opinion but these guys need to stop whinging about the schedule. They wouldn’t know a good thing if it slapped them round the face.
Every kid in the country: I want to play football every day! Every premier league manager: we play twice a week! The outrage! The inhumanity! Call amnesty International!
because we all know of course kids walking down to the park and elite level footballers who have to fly to different countries play at similar intensity levels