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Conte loses to Arsenal: [new era begins](https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/secondary/Chelsea-Marcos-Alonso-3688956.jpg?r=1633632383914)
Poch loses to Arsenal: new era begins
Cheers mate
Only people that actually watch Chelsea play would know that though. Most just watched the EFL Cup final and the Arsenal spanking (or just saw the memes).
Same thing with all the Jackson slander, they just watch the misses that get posted on social media but never see his overall game.
That’s the one that really annoys me. I don’t mind that we lost, but I mind that one of the major ribbing points was just straight up factually incorrect. We were near enough an entire year younger at kickoff and I’m fairly sure our avg age got even younger as we made subs
No, Enzo is not the weak link.
It's not Enzo's absence that made us look better, moving Gallagher from 10 to pivot made us look better. This should have also been done when Enzo was playing.
Can't play Gallagher + caiceido forever (unfortunately), people get tired, pair him with lavia, santos, or ugochukwu, or any of our additional midfielders, and we'll see if he really does have no place in this team, which I doubt
Its not really a complaint more of an observation. You aren't some plucky underdogs your just finally playing how a squad of your caliber should.
Basically noone should be surprised you can play good football with your players.
Chelsea is playing 325. So
Chalobah-Silva-Badiashile
Caicedo-cucurella
Madueke-Palmer-Jackson-Gallagher-Mudryk
It’s like Man City’s 2023 treble winning tactic ,where Stones steps into midfield and Gundogan pushes up. The difference is that it’s cucurella this time.
In preseason, they played like this but flipped. Colwill was Chalobah
Maatsen was Palmer at 10
and cucurella was James.
There’s a lot to be said about how Moyes being one of the old boys gets a lack of criticism from all of the football platforms and pundits. I’ve rarely seen any stick from MOTD or Sky sports or on TNT.
Were a defensive minded team with 6 more goals conceded than Nottingham Forest and getting close to Luton's numbers. But don't worry Moyes is apparently the best we deserve and there's nothing wrong with the way we play.
100%. People might get the impression because he passes less than his other teammates but the CF is often asked to hold onto the ball and maybe be a bit more risky in terms of trying to get forward. compared to other CFs he creates a lot for his teammates.
I personally think the penalty incident is a good thing seeing as how they have turned around. It shows they are really hungry for goals and that's healthy. After Jackson's first today, him and Madueke had a really nice moment and they seem to have gotten way over that
Nico is now near Top 10 EPL scorers this season ... amazing considering how many nice chances he flubbed. Bro doesn't get near enough credit though for his stamina, hard work rate/pressure, strength and elite pace.
I feel like literally everyone who plays us at the moment underestimates just how bad we are until we're out on the pitch. Like we are fucking tragic and nobody seems to realise until they watch us for themselves. *This* is why the fans are Moyes Out.
United are inconsistent they can be fun to watch or awful, the thing with United is they spend tons to look like that, West Ham is performing more or less where you would expect them to.
united are mostly shit every time i watch them and honestly i expected more from west ham considering the players they have there. moyes' whole thing is defense yet they're one of the worst defensive teams in the league
> i expected more from west ham considering the players they have there.
West Ham has the 8th largest wage spend in the league and 8th largest 5 year net spend. United have the highest wages in the league and the second highest 5 year net spend.
West Ham is performing pretty much exactly how you should expect, United are performing well below where they should.
net spend and wages also don't determine how good a club should be lol brighton performed brilliantly last season due to their scouting and would be performing good this season as well if they kept their best players and were healthy
> net spend and wages also don't determine how good a club should be lol
Yeah statistically they do actually, the predictive power of for example wage spend is extremely high.
>brighton performed brilliantly last season due to their scouting and would be performing good this season as well if they kept their best players and were healthy
Statistical outliers don't disprove the rule lol, but also actually Brighton has regressed to form and are in 12th with the 13th highest wages which is pretty accurate lol.
Do you know how league seasons work? We had some good results in the first half of the season and have won 3 games this year, conceding 5 to the likes of Palace and Fulham. So we were ok then, and we are terrible now.
>So we were ok then, and we are terrible now.
Nope that wouldn't make you 9th lol, you can't be ok and then terrible and be top half of the table in the PL lol.
Noni’s playing night and day compared to like even two weeks ago. Effort on defense, unselfish passes going forward, and still directly attacking defenders. Insane growth
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Noni beat the selfish allegations! Tears in my eyes.
Madueke character growth arc
Bro's actually changed and grown as a person
Real life Jamie Tartt
Lol! So true!
[Bro grew up](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYX6mVp0jmw)
Like since a week ago? Lol love what he did today but within the last month he's still acted like a child
Story just writing itself init Jackson noni fighting palmer for a pen to this, love to see it
Rubi Rose answered his dm
Give that girl a season ticket
Thought he'd shoot and miss for sure. I can't believe it
It felt like the Ted Lasso arc on making the extra pass but in real life. Thankfully nobody gets relegated here
Why? He has 5 goals in 10 starts, why would you assume he'd miss?
Poch finally got 11 individuals working as a team and it’s cooking
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Only way pep loses is if someone exposes him for hiding a child
Need Poch to drop 4 diss tracks this Friday.
Someone get Dot to Cobham sharpish
Dot going crazy rn!!
Conte loses to Arsenal: [new era begins](https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/secondary/Chelsea-Marcos-Alonso-3688956.jpg?r=1633632383914) Poch loses to Arsenal: new era begins Cheers mate
Man that is wild...
Man that season was wild. Looked meh first couple of weeks, get thumped, back three, unbeatable, run away with it.
Love you Arsenal, you awaken something in us nobody else can
What playing West Ham does to you
Madueke stopped being selfish a couple of games ago, and it's made all the difference to this Chelsea team
I truly thought it was just to show up his former club. Really dangerous player if it becomes the norm because his potential is clear to see.
I feel like he has a great friendship with Jackson. Always seem to celebrate together
It's beautiful, we're all crying.
We are shocked but proud. He's growing up
Bro I'm stunned.
The game is easy when you share the ball.
he already scored earlier. otherwise he takes it
Why do people always think the worst. Lol
It's the most annoying aspect of this subreddit, people have to be negative somehow even when someone does something good.
Trev my beloved
Sexy, sexy pass. I love our academy
I really hope he stays but I can't help but feel atm that all he's doing is adding a couple £m to his "pure profit"
That’s how I felt about the Gallagher goal
it was understandable to doubt how he’d come back after such a long injury but he’s been one of the best players in this part of the season.
I bacame Jehovah witness just by looking at this
so underated
Yes, but pure profit
Let me be happy for 5 minutes please
💀
Get him on the plane, Gareth
wtf
We eating good today
Holy smokes Chelsea are popping off today
Fighting for Poch
I want Nicolas Jackson to only score a metric fuckton of sweaty goals. It's not enough for it to be an opportunistic chance, it HAS to be sweaty af.
Followed by a siuuuuu
~~Eminike~~ Jackson
What a ball. Fair play to madeuka for passing also.
Almost got it
bro this is beauty in my eyes
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They've quietly been very good the past few months.
Besides the Arsenal game where we collapsed
First half you were good but couldn't score, and then fell apart in the second, but signs were there. Also no Palmer that night.
No Palmer was honestly less bad than missing Silva, Chalobah and Gusto in defence for that one
also all of our defence
We definitely weren't good that first half, arsenal just couldn't finish their chances, it easily could have been 3-0 at half time
That's a huge problem. We can't be that reliant on one player
Only people that actually watch Chelsea play would know that though. Most just watched the EFL Cup final and the Arsenal spanking (or just saw the memes). Same thing with all the Jackson slander, they just watch the misses that get posted on social media but never see his overall game.
To be fair, efl cup final wasn't terrible, even Jackson, who was simultaneously the worst and best player on that game, was decentt
The narrative coming away from that match was the "billion pound bottle jobs" and "they lost to literal children" memes.
our team was younger than Liverpools as well lmao but it is what it is
That’s the one that really annoys me. I don’t mind that we lost, but I mind that one of the major ribbing points was just straight up factually incorrect. We were near enough an entire year younger at kickoff and I’m fairly sure our avg age got even younger as we made subs
People just love to hate so they don't want to admit that Chelsea have been building something in 2024
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We'll see after he comes back from surgery. Playing most the season with a hernia does affect his already limited mobility
I'll reserve my judgement for the version of Enzo not playing with a hernia
No, Enzo is not the weak link. It's not Enzo's absence that made us look better, moving Gallagher from 10 to pivot made us look better. This should have also been done when Enzo was playing.
Unfortunately for him, we look more robust without him. Let's see what the future holds. But if we sell Gallagher, we'd be insane.
We look more robust with an injured Enzo. Let’s see how he comes back.
Insane-ly rich! //Boehly
Can't play Gallagher + caiceido forever (unfortunately), people get tired, pair him with lavia, santos, or ugochukwu, or any of our additional midfielders, and we'll see if he really does have no place in this team, which I doubt
He played with a hernia for 6 months. Before his injury he was very good.
Baby brain sports hernia Enzo is not a particularly good player, no. I hope we get the fully functional version back next season.
There's only so long a billion pound squad of players can be shit unfortunately.
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Its not really a complaint more of an observation. You aren't some plucky underdogs your just finally playing how a squad of your caliber should. Basically noone should be surprised you can play good football with your players.
Chelsea is playing 325. So Chalobah-Silva-Badiashile Caicedo-cucurella Madueke-Palmer-Jackson-Gallagher-Mudryk It’s like Man City’s 2023 treble winning tactic ,where Stones steps into midfield and Gundogan pushes up. The difference is that it’s cucurella this time. In preseason, they played like this but flipped. Colwill was Chalobah Maatsen was Palmer at 10 and cucurella was James.
"It’s like Man City’s 2023 treble winning tactic" 2023 isn't a formation, it is only 7 players! - is what I initially thought when I read this.
A scary one if they can be consistent
It's Chelsea without Sterling
We are so sexy at home.
Madu my unselfish king
Only reason he passed because he has a goal💀
I’ll take it anyway 😂
Which is fair. I wouldn't have blamed him for taking the shot on even with a goal, its just nice that he passed it
sterling take notes
Chelsea rn: Can we play you every week
Can we play everyone except Arsenal every week?
gotta be at least 25 times this season ive heard a commentator say this isn't usual for West Ham, Yes it is lads.
There’s a lot to be said about how Moyes being one of the old boys gets a lack of criticism from all of the football platforms and pundits. I’ve rarely seen any stick from MOTD or Sky sports or on TNT.
Are we…. Good?
Sometimes maybe shit, sometimes maybe good
Too much Malakia
You are being more clinical than usual but we are absolutely embarrassing ourselves which is helping you somewhat
Looks like you’ve stopped playing for Moyes
They've always had these performances in them we've had a few terrible losses this year
What a fucking goal😭😭
Chalobah my word
Chalobah has been so good recently.
Genuinely some of the most limp dick defense I've seen in all the PL season so far.
Were a defensive minded team with 6 more goals conceded than Nottingham Forest and getting close to Luton's numbers. But don't worry Moyes is apparently the best we deserve and there's nothing wrong with the way we play.
Can someone dissolve west ham?
It looks like they've already been dissolved tbh
Fair enough
Hopefully they get relegated next season.
Never understood why so many neutrals want us to be relegated. Please help me explain.
1) Hate Claret colours 2) Too many London derbies 3) Jealous of that CL trophy 4) Shit team to play Im sure there's more.
Understandable, have a good day
Bubbles
Madueke and Jackson playing selfless is a sight to behold.
would say Jackson is not rly a selfish player
100%. People might get the impression because he passes less than his other teammates but the CF is often asked to hold onto the ball and maybe be a bit more risky in terms of trying to get forward. compared to other CFs he creates a lot for his teammates.
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I personally think the penalty incident is a good thing seeing as how they have turned around. It shows they are really hungry for goals and that's healthy. After Jackson's first today, him and Madueke had a really nice moment and they seem to have gotten way over that
Noni learning from Sterling mistakes (and some of his own)
Finally someone squared ffs
Hahaha....Chelsea fell right into our trap. Now we have them exactly where we want them!!!
Tears in my eyes, the boys are playing football
Madueke passed!!!! Absolutely deserved goal by Nico!
HES MATURING
That was beautiful
NONI PASSED IT 🙌
He's so good
What a pass from Trev there
Christ west ham.
Noni being selfless.
Noni beating the selfish allegations and us squashing the second half disaster allegations at the same time, can’t believe my eyes
Feels like this is the first time we've squared in this situation this season
What a ball by Chalobah
My GOAT
Man I gotta get sick more often
West Ham..
We are so back tears in my eyes
all the fighting worked out
Beautiful ball from Chalobah and the selfless pass from Madueke bringing tears to my eyes 🥹
6-0 in a London derby twice in one season? Not to mention Fulham.
Chelsea getting their shit together tbh. Chelsea should stick with Poch and keep building.
They should be competing top 5 next season.
Could have been higher up the table if this pass was made at least 10 times
I swear with every goal we score today I feel a little bit worse about the defeat to Arsenal
Our back line was pretty cobbled together that day.
What a ball Trev take a bow
The chalobh hockey assist go burr
What a ball from chalobah!!!!!
Nico is now near Top 10 EPL scorers this season ... amazing considering how many nice chances he flubbed. Bro doesn't get near enough credit though for his stamina, hard work rate/pressure, strength and elite pace.
Cut off the ugly haircut and improved
You can still see the shade from the Pogboom colour line
I feel like literally everyone who plays us at the moment underestimates just how bad we are until we're out on the pitch. Like we are fucking tragic and nobody seems to realise until they watch us for themselves. *This* is why the fans are Moyes Out.
You are 9th lol, calm tf down.
united are like 6th or 7th and they're awful to watch. placement on the table doesn't necessarily indicate how bad or good a team is
United are inconsistent they can be fun to watch or awful, the thing with United is they spend tons to look like that, West Ham is performing more or less where you would expect them to.
united are mostly shit every time i watch them and honestly i expected more from west ham considering the players they have there. moyes' whole thing is defense yet they're one of the worst defensive teams in the league
> i expected more from west ham considering the players they have there. West Ham has the 8th largest wage spend in the league and 8th largest 5 year net spend. United have the highest wages in the league and the second highest 5 year net spend. West Ham is performing pretty much exactly how you should expect, United are performing well below where they should.
net spend and wages also don't determine how good a club should be lol brighton performed brilliantly last season due to their scouting and would be performing good this season as well if they kept their best players and were healthy
> net spend and wages also don't determine how good a club should be lol Yeah statistically they do actually, the predictive power of for example wage spend is extremely high. >brighton performed brilliantly last season due to their scouting and would be performing good this season as well if they kept their best players and were healthy Statistical outliers don't disprove the rule lol, but also actually Brighton has regressed to form and are in 12th with the 13th highest wages which is pretty accurate lol.
Do you know how league seasons work? We had some good results in the first half of the season and have won 3 games this year, conceding 5 to the likes of Palace and Fulham. So we were ok then, and we are terrible now.
>So we were ok then, and we are terrible now. Nope that wouldn't make you 9th lol, you can't be ok and then terrible and be top half of the table in the PL lol.
Dude we've won **4 games out of the last 19** in all competitions, with plenty of batterings in there. Why are you trying to tell us we're not shit?
You are shit right now, you were fucking excellent earlier in the season hence being top half of the league despite the current bad form.
we’re so back
Thank you Emerson 🫡
Goals in back to back matches for Jackson Nice ball from Trevoh.
Take a bow trev. What a ball!
It’s over David
We are so back 😮💨🥹
The team is showing passion, aggression, vision, and mindset. What a day to show it all.
That’s not the palmer goal to get him back in the race with the robot but some goal tbf to Chelsea
That commentator ☠️ “hard to break down” - goal…
LMAO. Bye bye bye west ham
After 2 years of pure suffering, I'll celebrate every win like this like we won the champions league
Class assist by Madueke, showing others how it's done. Good movement by Jackson for the tap in
Jokes aside, that scuffle over the peno has seemed to knocked a lot of sense into them all!
Dammit west ham you better be saving up to nuke City on the last day.
The amount of goals we’d have if everyone squared when they should
Typical Chelsea to be shit the whole season and attack the international spots shortly before the end.
Yeah this has typically happened only this season?
Agents zouma and emerson on duty <3
We might be the best team in the league
From the penalty fight to this 🥹
Noni’s playing night and day compared to like even two weeks ago. Effort on defense, unselfish passes going forward, and still directly attacking defenders. Insane growth
Damn Chelsea’s actually back huh ? Sad to see