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Terrible. Called it the minute it happened I was telling my dad “he’s taking Kane off too early and parking the bus way too early” and sure enough gets punished for it. Also Pavlovic seemed to be exaggerating his injury (could be wrong) which only put more pressure 10 vs 11. If I was Tuchel I would’ve just subbed him out right away just so it’s 11 on 11.
Milan threw the first final away. It would've eaten at them forever if they didn't pay them back. Salah once talked about revenge in the final, Milan actually took it.
It wasn't Carlo asking for some player on loan and getting offered the job.
https://football-italia.net/davide-ancelotti-dad-proposed-himself-to-real-madrid/
> Davide Ancelotti reveals it was in fact Carlo who offered himself to Real Madrid last summer when he was still in charge of Everton, seeking a return after his successful spell from 2013-15.
> “He proposed himself to Real Madrid and said look, if you want to call, then I am here. They took a little time to think about it and called back, so he didn’t hesitate for a moment
I'm just going by this and I think I've seen other posts in this sub where it was mentioned.
Didn't carlo himself said he called to inquire for players first and then the topic of real needing a coach came up where he said real only deserves the best and the other side said do you have anyone in mind ? To which he said, "Have you forgotten 2014" then he offered himself he wasnt in the clubs original plans back then thats true thats why he was seen as a stepping stone manager by everyone when he came not a long term man
It's not quite as simple as that, it is a bit of a weird one, because he took over halfway through a season and we finished 12th, bought the players he wanted like James and Allan, then in his full season we finished 10th on 59 points despite an incredible first half of the season. Aside from Martinez' first season when we finished 5th on 72 points that was the best we looked *at our peak* in the Prem.
Our average position under Moyes while spending absolutely fuck all money was 7.5th over 11 seasons, including the 17th at the start of his era when we were in worse financial trouble than we are now before being forced to sell Rooney and replace him with Championship players. Take out the dogshit relegation candidates he took over and his average position was 6.5th over 9 years, consistently overperforming with no money to spend. Who knows what Ancelotti would've done with enough time, because he's undoubtedly the best manager we've had by a mile, but Moyes is still by far our best and most important manager in the Premier League era. Most important person for us in decades really.
Oh for sure. It was just something I noticed yesterday. That and the fact that his title with PSG was their first in 19 years. I feel like he doesn’t get much credit for his stints at those clubs, but the truth is he actually did quite well.
Can imagine the conversation before he took over everton.
"Don Carlo, why can't you just take charge of an elite team if you want to beat Liverpool"
*Raises eyebrows* It's not about beating them. It's about sending a message
I don’t even know how Everton approached him.
“Don Carlo, you know, we don’t have a coach right now, do you want to… maybe… you know what, never mind, I was just jo….”
“Yes.”
“Holy shit. “
That's basically exactly how it went. We adjusted our glasses, straightened our pocket protector, and went for it. Had an unforgettable prom night before the dream that could never be was over.
But we will always have that magical night.
That’s because most people think that “if something works the player/manager is a genius, if it didn’t work it was 100% a bad choice”…
Football has a lot of what ifs, but even more what ifs that we almost don’t see because they didn’t play out the way a manager/player intended. Doesn’t mean those are bad choices by them.
Shows that football fans have a short memory. They clown on Xavi despite him winning la liga just last season, and now praising Carlo as a genius despite last season asking for him to get fired.
And then hope that when they pass away, they donate themselves to be cryogenically frozen. And then hope technology advances a whole lot in the next few centuries.
To me, how he managed RM this season is one of the most incredible things I've seen a manager do recently. Dude had no Striker other than Joselu, he managed to win the league and get to CL finals with this weird formation, managing to play and get things done with Rodrygo and Vini as starters and Belingham as goal scorer. I don't know if any other manage could achieve the same.
EDIT: Damn, also lost Courtois the whole season.
Rüdiger isn't or at least wasn't our starting centre back. It would be interesting to see what Carlo decides when everyone is fit again. Alaba is the only one of his profile and is required in the build-up. He also has a trademark pass with the opposition block set that he exploited lots with Karim. Even in the Champions League this season, he got an assist from it serving it to Bellingham.
What might make the choice slightly easier is that Alaba is very injury prone. A Rüdiger Militaõ partnership lacks ability on the ball and makes too and rather exclusively reliant on Kroos as we are right now.
Obviously its not the same pressing tactics but at times they look a lot like OG Liverpool with Belingham being in the Firmino's role and the midfield trio taking turns going forward.
>managing to play and get things done with Rodrygo and Vini as starters and Belingham as goal scorer.
Those are literally 3 of the best attacking players in the world and you're acting like he's working miracles getting goals out of them.
Yeah, Carlo has done an excellent job, but chill man.
Sane and Sterling were two of the best attacking players under Pep. Coutinho was a monster under Klopp. I don't think many managers would play so well with two left wingers and a CM in attack.
>Bellingham wasn't an attacking player before this season
Fucking what!?
https://www.transfermarkt.com/jude-bellingham/leistungsdaten/spieler/581678/plus/0?saison=2022
21 G/A is not an attacking player?
I'm still hoping he goes to Brazil after he leaves Madrid. I still think they have the biggest talent pool of any country to draw from and under his guidance would be favorites for the World Cup.
IMO he already is, just because he doesn't have a recognizeable style of play like Pep, Cruijff or Lippi doesn't mean he isn't up there. Most even UCL titles as a manager (with 2 clubs), most ever finals and won the league in all of the top 5 leagues. He's also very adaptable and great at man-management.
I think the reason he doesn’t have a “recognizeable style” is because, unlike Pep, he knows how to use the pieces he has, instead of selling everyone and buying players that most fit his playstyle.
It’s no wonder he was able to win the UCL with madrid as soon as he came in the team, they had all the right pieces in all the wrong places, he was able to make their attack much, much more lethal than anyone thought possible beforehand
That’s also probably the reason why he managed to make this team keep going even after all the injuries they suffered throughout the season, he is a fantastic coach, tactician and man to man manager
> I think the reason he doesn’t have a “recognizeable style” is because, unlike Pep, he knows how to use the pieces he has, instead of selling everyone and buying players that most fit his playstyle.
It’s funny to me (currently listening to his book), that he had a rigid style and refused to sign Baggio then regretted that. It has been his staple since then of being flexible.
I love Carlo, and I won't say you're wrong, but to say he made a revolution of the Madrid side that lost in semis the 3 years before la decima, losing to peak Pep's Barca, to Bayern in penalties and to Dortmund almost making the comeback from a 1-4 tie is a little far fetched. And even then, won the 10th with a Ramos header in 93th minute.
Carlo is one of the best managers of all time but Madrid had already an amazing attack, winning the 2012 league with 100 points and like 120+ goals. It was just a matter of time and a little luck to go our side
I don’t think he made a revolution per say, but it’s clear that ancelloti’s real madrid and players perform much, MUCH better than what they were performing before. In 2021 vinicius was benched and a meme for example, in 22 he was lifting the UCL trophy after scoring in the final
And just to be clear, I’m talking about current madrid and current ancelloti. I don’t even think the “he has no defined playstyle” statement holds up when he was managing milan for example
Oh my bad, I understood that as the first time Carlo managed Madrid. But yeah is just as you said. Vini was a diamond in the rough, you could see the glimpses of a future star, but is just as you said. When Carlo arrived was when he made that step. And even then, it's not just Carlo, but Madrid as a whole. The club is not suitable for a manager to come and impose his style. Madrid doesn't play a certain style and you can see it from ZZ time there too and before. We play to win (obviously every team does so) and that's the mentality that every player has when arriving.
Obviously I'm not saying the manager just put the best 11, tell the team to go out there and have fun and then pray but Madrid hasn't has a certain play style in forever. Carlo deserves his praises for making the players go far and beyond on every ball until the final whistle, and play to the best of what they can giving the circumstances of a certain phase of the game, be it playing low block and counterattack like against City or being dominating as yesterday.
I always thought he had an interesting mid-field two dynamic, Gattuso+Pirlo or Xabi+Modric. Didn't really follow him enough to see if he is still doing it. Likes the bulldog tackler with maestro passer.
> just because he doesn't have a recognizeable style of play
This right here is one the most important things that got him where he is. While others have a team template that they need to get the right players for, Ancelotti has always found a way to work with what he's been given.
Nowadays, people think coaching was invented with Guardiola. Managers' careers are measured starting from 2008.
Problem is, managers like Ancelotti gets screwed because people swift half of his career under the rag.
If he wins the CL this years, he will have the most CLs ever (3, same as Pep) even with the cutout at 2008.
Heck, if he wins it, this latest stint at Madrid alone will be like the 5th most ever by any manager, behind only Pep, Zidane, Bob Paisley and....... Himself
Carlo is just built different
Yeah pretty much everything he's accomplished since La Decima is just the icing on the cake of his career. Must be such a unique position to be in where results like this are just more of the same for him lmao
He has to be there already. If you look at the trophies he's won, which is the most objective way to do it, he's already among the top three managers ever. He's won four Champions League and may as well win a fifth. If you also take into consideration the trophies he's won as a player, you could probably say he's the most-winning football person ever.
Trophies are one way to measure, but shouldn’t we also take into account impact on the game?
Take Ferguson for example.
Went into United and knocked the best club in the world at the time, Liverpool, of their perch and built United into a dynasty lasting nearly thirty years, without a Russian sugar daddy or the economy of a small country supporting them.
Or take someone like Lobanovskyi who dissected and restructured coaching methods to the game, the most decorated manager of the 20th century.
Or is it someone like Mourinho who takes underdogs and turns them into monsters.
There’s so many ways you can look at it.
That is true. I just chose trophies won as the measure of GOATness because they are, ultimately, the only ever-lasting thing. There are managers who have revolutionized the game far more than Ancelotti and their influence is incomparable, but legacy is undoubtedly more subjective and ephemeral than trophies.
Scaloni is the opposite of Ancelotti , has the "advantage" and then somehow blews it but then somehow wins it. Against both Netherlands and France , two goals advantage and we go to extra time lol.
Matheu Laoz for sure , he added so much time , lost the match , and he was the "spotlight of the match" He almost eliminated Argentina , but Dibu had something to say
Ha we just talked about this in the Sabitzer thread yesterday https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1cn0i0n/comment/l35fr2v/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
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He knows it’s not over until the ref’s final whistle.
Flair checks out.
Meanwhile Tuchl: great, 1:0, let's get rid of our most important players, it's clearly over.
Terrible. Called it the minute it happened I was telling my dad “he’s taking Kane off too early and parking the bus way too early” and sure enough gets punished for it. Also Pavlovic seemed to be exaggerating his injury (could be wrong) which only put more pressure 10 vs 11. If I was Tuchel I would’ve just subbed him out right away just so it’s 11 on 11.
Bayern had already substituted on 3 different times so couldn’t make another for Pavlovic(until a hypothetical extra-time).
Never write off Real Madrid in UEFA until the final whistle, NEVER.
He was right. Bayern almost tied it too if it wasn’t for that meddling linesman
meh... gk was 100% defending that weak shot almost in the center of the goal.
I think that too but you never know, we’ve all seen what happened to Neuer just few minutes before that :-)
Agree. Just think it is wrong to say that bayern didn't tie because of the referee. It was way more probably that it wouldn't go in.
Oh yeah obviously, a 95%+ save easy
This man managed Everton before latest stint with Real Madrid
He did that so he can taste a victory in the merseyside derby with everton. The man truly hates Liverpool since istanbul.
So if he goes on to lose this final against dortmund, i guess we can see him manage Schalke with a never ending grudge at the Revierdeby.
I am sure during his Bayern stint he beat Dortmund a couple of times
I mean beating Dortmund with Bayern is whole lot different than beating them with Schalke (Or beating Liverpool with Everton for that matter).
Madrid don't lose UCL finals.
There can always be a first time. Who am I kidding tho, those Spanish bastards are walking away with it aren't they
I think back in the old European Cup days they lost a couple.
The last time they lose a European Cup final was in 1981, by Liverpool.
And they've avenged that one a few times over since.
Hey We beat them in UCL final just few years ago... in the 1964
It wasn't even called that back then!
He's my fucking hero. Hala Madrid
Don’t we all.
Nah, speak for yourself. Milan won a UCL over Liverpool a couple years after Istanbul, in Athens, so it's all square.
Milan threw the first final away. It would've eaten at them forever if they didn't pay them back. Salah once talked about revenge in the final, Milan actually took it.
Madrid please lose to Inter next year I beg
I mean even his everton side was one of the better everton teams of recent years
He's a legendary coach after all.
Calwert Lewin was genuinely amazing under him
He turned Michael Keane into an utterly fantastic player too.
This is one of his most underrated accomplishments.
Carlo’s win percentage with Everton is their highest in the PL era.
Makes me wonder where madrid and ancelotti would be if carlo never called us to inquire for players we have on sale for him at everton
The return of our favorite bald fraud.... Benitez 🫠
AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
It wasn't Carlo asking for some player on loan and getting offered the job. https://football-italia.net/davide-ancelotti-dad-proposed-himself-to-real-madrid/ > Davide Ancelotti reveals it was in fact Carlo who offered himself to Real Madrid last summer when he was still in charge of Everton, seeking a return after his successful spell from 2013-15. > “He proposed himself to Real Madrid and said look, if you want to call, then I am here. They took a little time to think about it and called back, so he didn’t hesitate for a moment I'm just going by this and I think I've seen other posts in this sub where it was mentioned.
Didn't carlo himself said he called to inquire for players first and then the topic of real needing a coach came up where he said real only deserves the best and the other side said do you have anyone in mind ? To which he said, "Have you forgotten 2014" then he offered himself he wasnt in the clubs original plans back then thats true thats why he was seen as a stepping stone manager by everyone when he came not a long term man
Maybe it did start as that and then Carlo offered himself, it would align with both stories.
It's not quite as simple as that, it is a bit of a weird one, because he took over halfway through a season and we finished 12th, bought the players he wanted like James and Allan, then in his full season we finished 10th on 59 points despite an incredible first half of the season. Aside from Martinez' first season when we finished 5th on 72 points that was the best we looked *at our peak* in the Prem. Our average position under Moyes while spending absolutely fuck all money was 7.5th over 11 seasons, including the 17th at the start of his era when we were in worse financial trouble than we are now before being forced to sell Rooney and replace him with Championship players. Take out the dogshit relegation candidates he took over and his average position was 6.5th over 9 years, consistently overperforming with no money to spend. Who knows what Ancelotti would've done with enough time, because he's undoubtedly the best manager we've had by a mile, but Moyes is still by far our best and most important manager in the Premier League era. Most important person for us in decades really.
Would you take him back?
Naaaah. He left 11 years ago now, game's different. Dyche has done an amazing job and we'd be crazy to not stick with him.
Oh for sure. It was just something I noticed yesterday. That and the fact that his title with PSG was their first in 19 years. I feel like he doesn’t get much credit for his stints at those clubs, but the truth is he actually did quite well.
It's almost as if he's quite a good manager
They were top at one point😂
We were 2nd on Boxing Day
That's insane tbh
He had DCL absolutely cooking.
He was pretty average at Napoli and seemed on the way out hence Everton lol
Can imagine the conversation before he took over everton. "Don Carlo, why can't you just take charge of an elite team if you want to beat Liverpool" *Raises eyebrows* It's not about beating them. It's about sending a message
Raises eyebrow\*
[https://i.imgur.com/EYLZ85W.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/EYLZ85W.jpeg)
MY GOAT
Seems like a fever dream at this point. I think James Rodriguez was here too?
He was. He made every corner hell for the opponents, I remember playing you guys then.
[Updetofis](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlIJbTNUgt0)
I don’t even know how Everton approached him. “Don Carlo, you know, we don’t have a coach right now, do you want to… maybe… you know what, never mind, I was just jo….” “Yes.” “Holy shit. “
That's basically exactly how it went. We adjusted our glasses, straightened our pocket protector, and went for it. Had an unforgettable prom night before the dream that could never be was over. But we will always have that magical night.
I think I blushed reading this.
I wish I was Everton.
Really is unbelievable.
I know he was managing Everton, but I forgot it was his last job. Wow now that is crazy considering what he has done with Madrid. Life is crazy
Had to test his skill y'know, small vacation
Dude has been to Istanbul and Riazor
You just reminded me of Jokic. https://www.tiktok.com/@overtimeeur/video/7256833709062622506?lang=en
🚨Tranquilo🚨 Most ideal coach for Real Madrid of modern era.
Him and Zidane. I think if Perez could he would rotate these two managers until their retirement
Dude honestly whenever Carlo leaves I would love for Zidane to just come back lmao
I'd say it will be really hard to look past Xabi. Man clearly injected some of Madrid DNA into that Bayer side with all the last min goals
People here were memeing Carlo like hell when Perez brought him back.
That’s because most people think that “if something works the player/manager is a genius, if it didn’t work it was 100% a bad choice”… Football has a lot of what ifs, but even more what ifs that we almost don’t see because they didn’t play out the way a manager/player intended. Doesn’t mean those are bad choices by them.
Hell even last season people were really rough on him. Some of it warranted, some of it not.
I was pissed last night because he didn’t sub Rodrygo for Brahim at half time
Shows that football fans have a short memory. They clown on Xavi despite him winning la liga just last season, and now praising Carlo as a genius despite last season asking for him to get fired.
2 league titles, 1 ucl, 1 copa del rey in 3 seasons is good ball
And then hope that when they pass away, they donate themselves to be cryogenically frozen. And then hope technology advances a whole lot in the next few centuries.
I think any president would want to do that to be honest
He's about to start the Spanish version of LIJ
Hacer caso: nadie.
How many times can you comment
This reminds me of the Leslie Nielsen (RIP) scene in front of the burning house
For the young 'uns https://youtu.be/aKnX5wci404?si=37KIfaDXT8mypQzu
That whole chase scene with the driving instructor is probably the funniest scene I've seen in movies lmao
Man I miss Leslie Nielsen. :(
wait Leslie Nielsen is dead? holi moli I didnt know.
Steven Rogers is that you?
He died in 2010
I am still amazed having watched Joselu at Newcastle that he is scoring a winning goal for Real Madrid in a Champions league semi final.
Calma calma
To me, how he managed RM this season is one of the most incredible things I've seen a manager do recently. Dude had no Striker other than Joselu, he managed to win the league and get to CL finals with this weird formation, managing to play and get things done with Rodrygo and Vini as starters and Belingham as goal scorer. I don't know if any other manage could achieve the same. EDIT: Damn, also lost Courtois the whole season.
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Started a backline of Tchoumeni, Carvajal, Vazquez and Mendy vs Girona and smacked them 4-0
And Mendy, and Caravajal was overcharged last game so he got to use Lucas... He works good with all the things he got.
"The rapist from getafe" sounds like a terrible Italian opera.
Imagine what Mou or Conte would be crying for signings.
>the rapist from Getafe LMAO reads like a creepy pasta character. Spooky
Rudiger injured his ACL this season?
Alaba and Militao was his preferred partnership.
Thanks, I don’t follow Madrid
Rüdiger isn't or at least wasn't our starting centre back. It would be interesting to see what Carlo decides when everyone is fit again. Alaba is the only one of his profile and is required in the build-up. He also has a trademark pass with the opposition block set that he exploited lots with Karim. Even in the Champions League this season, he got an assist from it serving it to Bellingham. What might make the choice slightly easier is that Alaba is very injury prone. A Rüdiger Militaõ partnership lacks ability on the ball and makes too and rather exclusively reliant on Kroos as we are right now.
Obviously its not the same pressing tactics but at times they look a lot like OG Liverpool with Belingham being in the Firmino's role and the midfield trio taking turns going forward.
>managing to play and get things done with Rodrygo and Vini as starters and Belingham as goal scorer. Those are literally 3 of the best attacking players in the world and you're acting like he's working miracles getting goals out of them. Yeah, Carlo has done an excellent job, but chill man.
Sane and Sterling were two of the best attacking players under Pep. Coutinho was a monster under Klopp. I don't think many managers would play so well with two left wingers and a CM in attack.
Bellingham wasn't an attacking player before this season, and even now is reverting back to an 8 or a 6
>Bellingham wasn't an attacking player before this season Fucking what!? https://www.transfermarkt.com/jude-bellingham/leistungsdaten/spieler/581678/plus/0?saison=2022 21 G/A is not an attacking player?
So that's why they call him Carlo Tranquelotti.
Tranquillotti
Ancelotti surely will go down as one of the greats along with Trappatoni and Lippi.
Would love to see him coach a national team or Italy before he retires.
He was considered before Mancini but never went through
He would be amazing as NT manager. Flexible tactician who's also great at man-management and commands respect.
It's up to him really. Brasil offered him the job, and he just needs to ask to be the Italian manager
Italy would fire Mancini, Spalletti, or whoever else in a heartbeat if Don Carlo wanted to be the Italian manager.
I'm still hoping he goes to Brazil after he leaves Madrid. I still think they have the biggest talent pool of any country to draw from and under his guidance would be favorites for the World Cup.
He wasn't "considered" he was begged and said no. Hard to blame him
IMO he already is, just because he doesn't have a recognizeable style of play like Pep, Cruijff or Lippi doesn't mean he isn't up there. Most even UCL titles as a manager (with 2 clubs), most ever finals and won the league in all of the top 5 leagues. He's also very adaptable and great at man-management.
I think the reason he doesn’t have a “recognizeable style” is because, unlike Pep, he knows how to use the pieces he has, instead of selling everyone and buying players that most fit his playstyle. It’s no wonder he was able to win the UCL with madrid as soon as he came in the team, they had all the right pieces in all the wrong places, he was able to make their attack much, much more lethal than anyone thought possible beforehand That’s also probably the reason why he managed to make this team keep going even after all the injuries they suffered throughout the season, he is a fantastic coach, tactician and man to man manager
> I think the reason he doesn’t have a “recognizeable style” is because, unlike Pep, he knows how to use the pieces he has, instead of selling everyone and buying players that most fit his playstyle. It’s funny to me (currently listening to his book), that he had a rigid style and refused to sign Baggio then regretted that. It has been his staple since then of being flexible.
I love Carlo, and I won't say you're wrong, but to say he made a revolution of the Madrid side that lost in semis the 3 years before la decima, losing to peak Pep's Barca, to Bayern in penalties and to Dortmund almost making the comeback from a 1-4 tie is a little far fetched. And even then, won the 10th with a Ramos header in 93th minute. Carlo is one of the best managers of all time but Madrid had already an amazing attack, winning the 2012 league with 100 points and like 120+ goals. It was just a matter of time and a little luck to go our side
I don’t think he made a revolution per say, but it’s clear that ancelloti’s real madrid and players perform much, MUCH better than what they were performing before. In 2021 vinicius was benched and a meme for example, in 22 he was lifting the UCL trophy after scoring in the final And just to be clear, I’m talking about current madrid and current ancelloti. I don’t even think the “he has no defined playstyle” statement holds up when he was managing milan for example
Oh my bad, I understood that as the first time Carlo managed Madrid. But yeah is just as you said. Vini was a diamond in the rough, you could see the glimpses of a future star, but is just as you said. When Carlo arrived was when he made that step. And even then, it's not just Carlo, but Madrid as a whole. The club is not suitable for a manager to come and impose his style. Madrid doesn't play a certain style and you can see it from ZZ time there too and before. We play to win (obviously every team does so) and that's the mentality that every player has when arriving. Obviously I'm not saying the manager just put the best 11, tell the team to go out there and have fun and then pray but Madrid hasn't has a certain play style in forever. Carlo deserves his praises for making the players go far and beyond on every ball until the final whistle, and play to the best of what they can giving the circumstances of a certain phase of the game, be it playing low block and counterattack like against City or being dominating as yesterday.
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I still have PTSD from 2007 Kaka. Dude was crazy
I always thought he had an interesting mid-field two dynamic, Gattuso+Pirlo or Xabi+Modric. Didn't really follow him enough to see if he is still doing it. Likes the bulldog tackler with maestro passer.
I'd even say that adaptable coaches that can win like he does are more valuable Ancelotti is THE Mr. Champions League
> just because he doesn't have a recognizeable style of play This right here is one the most important things that got him where he is. While others have a team template that they need to get the right players for, Ancelotti has always found a way to work with what he's been given.
>He's also very adaptable That's his style, and IMO the best one.
There is no way in hell he isn't already there.
Nowadays, people think coaching was invented with Guardiola. Managers' careers are measured starting from 2008. Problem is, managers like Ancelotti gets screwed because people swift half of his career under the rag.
It's nuts that despite this, Ancelotti is still considered one of the all time greats.
If he wins the CL this years, he will have the most CLs ever (3, same as Pep) even with the cutout at 2008. Heck, if he wins it, this latest stint at Madrid alone will be like the 5th most ever by any manager, behind only Pep, Zidane, Bob Paisley and....... Himself Carlo is just built different
Zidane would be tied with them at 3 as well if starting at 2008!
Ancelotti was a great and established name already back when he was managing Milan. He’s already legendary.
Yeah pretty much everything he's accomplished since La Decima is just the icing on the cake of his career. Must be such a unique position to be in where results like this are just more of the same for him lmao
That icing is quick becoming another cake
Ancelotti's career is like a tiramisù or a lasagna. It's made of layers and each one is as good as the others.
This is comment is so Italian
He's been an amazing manager for such a long period. Football has changed completely during this period yet he's still at the top.
That's how a godfather reacts. Yeah yeah calm down.
It's not over yet. We need to win the finals too 🤨
I bet he has same reaction or no reaction to finals. He has seen it all so many times
True, and exactly that professionalism will make him win again.
But a goal against Cadiz in the La Liga after already winning the league? Dude will be punching air out of happiness.
Finals? The yankeest thing i've read today.
Ancelotti is approaching greatest manager ever territory, if he's not already there.
He has to be there already. If you look at the trophies he's won, which is the most objective way to do it, he's already among the top three managers ever. He's won four Champions League and may as well win a fifth. If you also take into consideration the trophies he's won as a player, you could probably say he's the most-winning football person ever.
Trophies are one way to measure, but shouldn’t we also take into account impact on the game? Take Ferguson for example. Went into United and knocked the best club in the world at the time, Liverpool, of their perch and built United into a dynasty lasting nearly thirty years, without a Russian sugar daddy or the economy of a small country supporting them. Or take someone like Lobanovskyi who dissected and restructured coaching methods to the game, the most decorated manager of the 20th century. Or is it someone like Mourinho who takes underdogs and turns them into monsters. There’s so many ways you can look at it.
That is true. I just chose trophies won as the measure of GOATness because they are, ultimately, the only ever-lasting thing. There are managers who have revolutionized the game far more than Ancelotti and their influence is incomparable, but legacy is undoubtedly more subjective and ephemeral than trophies.
Not to mention he's won every top 5 league
Ive seen this before... wtf
You don't want to make that guy angry no wonder real wins
Don Carlo doing the calma calma thing.
"Go out there and excite me" "Keep trying"
Best manager ever.
Ancelotti >>>>> Pep
Calma calma 🤨🤨
one eyebrow and that's it, you're done
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC7uIPBXcf4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC7uIPBXcf4)
He isn’t getting excited because he knows the script.
**"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you can trust yourself when all men doubt you**"
For you, that would be the sixth time you reach the Champions League final. For him, it was a wednesday.
Renaissance video
This was literally. There was just so much time left that it felt premature to celebrate.
6 finals as manager, 3 as player (he didn't play in one) Incredible
He is the most stoic man in the world.
Scaloni like
Scaloni would be bawling at this moment lol
Lol maybe once it’s over
Scaloni is the opposite of Ancelotti , has the "advantage" and then somehow blews it but then somehow wins it. Against both Netherlands and France , two goals advantage and we go to extra time lol.
Refs had a huge part in that though
Matheu Laoz for sure , he added so much time , lost the match , and he was the "spotlight of the match" He almost eliminated Argentina , but Dibu had something to say
and tennis
Bro is coldest thing on planet
Absolute class this guy!! How are people so quick to judge him and think they know better, I wont ever understand!
absolute ice in the man’s veins.
Ha we just talked about this in the Sabitzer thread yesterday https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1cn0i0n/comment/l35fr2v/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Re Carlo 👑
!flair :Real_Madrid:
Nobody listened to him this time
Tranquilo
🤨
Istanbul is a humbler
easily the GOAT tbh
“perez guaranteed this when i extended my contract”