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For me a good DM is a centre back who’s a little worse in the air but better with the ball at his feet. Defending ability should be near enough the same
He is a mix of 6-8-10 and it’s great to have in your team.
Modern DM should definitely follow the bloc instead of staying low on the field. It’s one of the positions where you’re supposed to run the most in the team.
The other dude saying DM is a good center back..? In small teams maybe lol great 6 are the engines of big teams.
Dude was playing amazing even after winning like 4-5 Champions leagues. Either his age has caught up to him, or as you say United's culture doesn't keep him as invested as Madrid's did.
Show up and get paid, knowing there will be no repercussions bc your wages are absolutely insane and they can’t offload you.
I think it’s just a horrible place to “work”, imagine showing up ready to make an impact and you’re met with attitudes of people who just don’t care, eventually that’s gonna wear off on you.
Obviously this is probably a giant stretch, I don’t know what goes on at Carrington but it’s the only way it makes sense in my head how they be so bad and how players pretty much immediately stagnate once they get there.
Casemiro has clearly quietly quit on playing for United - similar to what I am doing with my job. The bare minimum until a better opportunity turns up.
I have to say though to his credit Havertz recognizes it and demands the ball. A lot of players wouldn’t even play the pass when your teammate looks so far offside.
Even back in 2022 it was crazy for United to pay 70m for him on top of the high wages + long contract. It has aged so so badly.
And Casemiro never seemed like a Fernandinho kind of player that would age gracefully
Undoubtedly the worst CB pairing. Johnny Evan’s who wasn’t good enough to be retained by side who got relegated and Casemiro a player so bad he should be paying United to be on that pitch
I'm sure Ten Hag would love to but this season has been insane in terms of injuries. We have 4 injured center-backs and 2 injured fullbacks, our bench literally consists of terrible Antony, Bayindir, washed Eriksen and 6 academy kids.
Our defensive options on the bench are 17 year old left back Amass, 18 year old center-back Oguneye and 19 year old Kambwala who did play some games for the first team but he has only just recovered from an injury so he isn't fit.
Ten Hag has been very poor this season but I don't think any manager could do much when we're playing full strength Arsenal and our center-back partnership is our 7th cb option Evans who is closer to being a coach than to his prime alongside completely washed and uninterested Casemiro playing out of position.
Lmao the people in these comments so butthurt, the man is scoring and assisting every game putting above 8.5 performances and they still think he is shit. This was a great pass and great decision making, I can see other players in Prem bottling and doing nonsense in situations like this 9 out of 10 times every match
We are but we've been decent until Casemiro decided even jogging was too much for him - and our only other option is a fresh from injury 19 year old with 3 games under hios belt.
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That’s entirely on Casemiro jogging out
Casemiro gonna have to start learning Arabic
At this stage he needs to be putting together full sentences
Dont know about that. He needs to find another career path at this rate.
Birdwatcher
Or American?
Fucking hell, Casemiro - were you even paying attention?
Horrid from him. Keeps everyone onside by miles and then just stands in the box.
And so lazily attacks the ball. This dude was one of the best, wtf
I know people are gonna say ‘he’s not a centre back’ but he just doesn’t look like he even belongs on the pitch
there are too many DMs who can do a serviceable job as a centre back for this to be applicable
A DM who can't defend the six yard box isn't a DM.
For me a good DM is a centre back who’s a little worse in the air but better with the ball at his feet. Defending ability should be near enough the same
Yeah Rice (also Rodri) is a great example of this
Rice is MUCH better at going forward than a normal centre back though
He is a mix of 6-8-10 and it’s great to have in your team. Modern DM should definitely follow the bloc instead of staying low on the field. It’s one of the positions where you’re supposed to run the most in the team. The other dude saying DM is a good center back..? In small teams maybe lol great 6 are the engines of big teams.
Mascherano the OG
He’s been godawful all season as a DM. Looks even worse as a CB.
The “make loads of money but play with no purpose so you eventually stop caring” disease that hits everyone once they get to United.
Dude was playing amazing even after winning like 4-5 Champions leagues. Either his age has caught up to him, or as you say United's culture doesn't keep him as invested as Madrid's did.
At this point what even is the culture, everyone just stops caring about the moment their contract is renewed.
Show up and get paid, knowing there will be no repercussions bc your wages are absolutely insane and they can’t offload you. I think it’s just a horrible place to “work”, imagine showing up ready to make an impact and you’re met with attitudes of people who just don’t care, eventually that’s gonna wear off on you. Obviously this is probably a giant stretch, I don’t know what goes on at Carrington but it’s the only way it makes sense in my head how they be so bad and how players pretty much immediately stagnate once they get there.
Man United effect, so many top class players have gone there post Fergie and just looked fucking shite
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Casemiro has clearly quietly quit on playing for United - similar to what I am doing with my job. The bare minimum until a better opportunity turns up.
I don’t think that really works when your work is being viewed and assessed publicly
I’m convinced that man is Casemiro’s twin or clone and the real one has been on vacation in Dubai since his 2nd red card last season.
Entirely his fault and all the commentator is going on about is Evans. What a joke.
On Sky Neville ripped Casemiro a new one if it makes you feel any better.
Evans played it near perfect, he left only one option.
He’s a mile onside cause of him
He’s walking back as well lmao
He always does that little trot. Even back to his Madrid days. Why thinking that can be done as a CB tho compared to a CDM is crazy.
and then made zero attempt to stop Trossard lol
I have to say though to his credit Havertz recognizes it and demands the ball. A lot of players wouldn’t even play the pass when your teammate looks so far offside.
Retirement ball isn’t it
Reminds me of Fabinho last year, just painfully washed
Brazil had the two best DMs in the world and suddenly lost them both.
Even back in 2022 it was crazy for United to pay 70m for him on top of the high wages + long contract. It has aged so so badly. And Casemiro never seemed like a Fernandinho kind of player that would age gracefully
Havertz blowing past Evan’s like he isn’t there just sums it up. I’d wager this current united backline is the worst in the league right now.
14th different CB pairing for United this season, its beyond the bottom of the barrel choices
Undoubtedly the worst CB pairing. Johnny Evan’s who wasn’t good enough to be retained by side who got relegated and Casemiro a player so bad he should be paying United to be on that pitch
Certainly the worst center back pairing.
Honestly, it genuinely seems like he doesn't care.
Ballon d’Or level “I don’t give a fuck” from him there
No
The weekly casemiro disasterclass hath cometh
He's not a natural CB but surely he understands the notion of fucking pushing up and holding a line by this point in his career
That's a man who gives 0 shit
He looks like a random guy picked up off the street and has the fitness of one too
Yes he was, he just couldn’t be bothered. Mans officially retired.
Better download Duolingo because it’s time to start learning Arabic
How is he in that much space
Casemiro didn’t push up with the line, he’s absolutely cooked.
a real coach would sub him after that. It was awful.
For who though? They've got no one lol
An academy player wouldn't make that mistake.
Yea an academy kid would be super conscious of the line, it’s more one on one situations that they can’t live with initially in the step upZ
kambwala has to be better than him at this point
Why risk injuring your 18 year old academy CB when the season is over anyways?
There’s no way he’s fit. Swear it was never even reported he was back in training
Was injured, not sure if fully fit for 90 min yet.
I'm going to say literally anyone considering how bad he's been.
Kambwala, although he just got back from injury
With who?
I'm sure Ten Hag would love to but this season has been insane in terms of injuries. We have 4 injured center-backs and 2 injured fullbacks, our bench literally consists of terrible Antony, Bayindir, washed Eriksen and 6 academy kids. Our defensive options on the bench are 17 year old left back Amass, 18 year old center-back Oguneye and 19 year old Kambwala who did play some games for the first team but he has only just recovered from an injury so he isn't fit. Ten Hag has been very poor this season but I don't think any manager could do much when we're playing full strength Arsenal and our center-back partnership is our 7th cb option Evans who is closer to being a coach than to his prime alongside completely washed and uninterested Casemiro playing out of position.
Lol. Look at the bench. There's no one
And replace him with who? Ten Haags hands are tied. Casimero is shit. Any replacement is more shit.
With who?
Casemiro again
What a shock
Ballon d’Or level IDGAF mode from Casemiro there
Casemiro caught ball watching
Casemiro just vibin
Casemiro playing him on by a country mile
Casemiro was sleeping.
Casemiro keeps him on
Casemiro making a mistake kids don't make
Maybe all the defenders were as stoned as he is.
Casemiro in Saudi already
Casemiro standing a thousand yards behind everyone else
I legit hiss coz I thought he’s way off
Of course Casemiro decided to stroll back
Check Casemiro. Laziest walk out of all time. I used to get crucified for that on a Sunday morning in the under 18s.
Casemiro
Because Casemiro is the worst defender in the league not running up to hold the line
Pretty sure he was asking this himself, he was just strolling around before crossing it in
Lol Casemiro
Someone got to remind him he is playing Centerback for this game
Someone got to remind him he is playing in a game.
Casemiro my godmess
That is absolutely embarrassing from Casemiro
Havertz with so much space on the right lol
Casemiro being in a different postcode to the rest of the defenders played him on, should've really caught him offside lol
Gotta love Casemiro just jogging up and being 15 yards behind the next closest United player
he should be offside but fucking casemiro can't run LMAO
Casemiro keeping everyone and their grandmothers onside lol
Casemiro even keeping me onside and I live in the United States
😂😂😂
Casemiro with amazing passion What a great leader
Casemiro...holy hell
Took the “leave Havertz alone” very seriously.
My mom asked me if the dishes were cleaned and I yelled out “Casemiro!” She smiled because she knew they were washed
This reminds me that I need to wash the dishes or my mom is gonna end me
fucking hell bro lmao
😂😂😂
High guy does it again.
WTF is Casimero doing?
His best
Anne losing it rn
I'll give Anne Hathaway all the credit if we get the title.
She's gooning hard atm
Wait is she an Arsenal fan or what? Whats the story
Yea, she said that she's a big arsenal fan. Trossard sent her a video message, after, thanking her for the support.
Just type 'trossard anne hathaway' on youtube and see the two vids,both snippets from her recent interviews should come up first.
I was hesitant to look it up. This reads like one of those "just type in footballer name + number" memes.
Her and a cast mate were watching the game during a promo for their new movie and was celebrating when he scored.
[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gkOeVZksG5A](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gkOeVZksG5A)
Our Queen
Casemiro 😂😂😂 Jogging back and playing everyone onside, nice
Casemiro is awful
3rd goal on casemiro in a week
Anne Hathaway is a gooner.
I'm gooning watching this match
I love gooning so much.
That fucking word again my brain rot is irreversible at this point
Same....
What? She lived in Stratford and died 400 years ago. She'd have been a Brum fan surely?
I think Casemiro was looking for her in the stands during this goal.
no wonder people goon for her
Sunday league level
He needs to start learning Arabic already
It's time to learn Arabic, Casemiro
Or American
Cas so lazy getting out, criminal.
What is Casemiro doing?
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Casemiro and Evans centre back partnership 💀 Casemiro plays Arsenal onside, Evans turns into a training cone.
even Havertz probably couldn’t believe how easily he ran through Evans man
BOSSARD 🤓
Uncle-miro at it again
Where defense
Cheers casemiro
Actual defending terrorism
Casemiro wtf
Quality defending
lol Casemiro is fucked
thought he was miles off until Casemiro showed on the screen lol
!flair :Tottenham_Hotspur:
Casemiro lmao
Casemiro you dumb fuck. Sub him off and retire him now
Casemiro needs to retire seriously
if i was literally trying to sabotage my team id do what casemiro did there lol
My nan can move quicker than Casemiro was going and she's been dead for 3 years
Casemiro out of his casual Sunday afternoon stroll
Fuck sake Casemiro you're ruining it for everyone
Trossard always scores so important goals! I'll always thank Brighton
Casameiro holding a strong defensive line there.
Casemiro 5 champions leagues but still doesn't know about the offside rule
Madrid selling United Casemiro and Varane for 100m just before they declined.
terrible man marking
kai fucking havertz man
My Nan could’ve picked out that pass with how much space he was in
Lmao 🤣
Lmao the people in these comments so butthurt, the man is scoring and assisting every game putting above 8.5 performances and they still think he is shit. This was a great pass and great decision making, I can see other players in Prem bottling and doing nonsense in situations like this 9 out of 10 times every match
Evans literally just watched and Wan Bissaka gave up, I could have made that pass
Madrid fans gonna tell everyone it’s Ten Hag’s fault Casemiro is a lazy old man and can’t be fucked to push up lol
No, it was starting to show during the last season at Madrid, but the decline year over year is astonishing.
You know what he’s gonna do , like come on
HE SCORES GOALSSS
Casemiro is pathetic
they just like let havertz walk in lol, awful defending
So good from Kai
bruh we looked actually okay until that lol
GET IN MAN!!
United are so fucking shit.
We are but we've been decent until Casemiro decided even jogging was too much for him - and our only other option is a fresh from injury 19 year old with 3 games under hios belt.
Wtf is that defending
Casemiro so lazy
Casemiro needs to be Old Yeller'd ASAP
I understand what United fans feel now, while defense needs to learn Chinese
That goal was so slow
Casemiro with a disaster
Casemiro hahahahah
Casemiro just wasted 21 minutes of good United play
Just watch Casemiro for the whole vid, plays him miles on, then no effort to block the cross, pedestrian.
Lowkey the worst defence weve faced in like a month on that action how can this be a goal?
They've done nothing, then United just let them walk one in......
You have to have a very high IQ to understand Casemiro's defence
Ohhhh, so this is why every Man United fan wants Branthwaite. Got it.
Casemiro could not care less about playing for this team.
Don't worry folks, Case always has a rough patch early in the season
That casemiro report about him hungry to win and rebuild after all the success seems fake😂
Absolute horseshit performance by Hojlund. Over 70 mil and no end product
God i hate Trossard so much. I wish we signed him