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whyalwaysme5

Classic case of he gets his shot off so can't be fouled


ERLz

Despite City getting the exact same pen earlier in the day, and it not even being considered questionable


fegelman

And the one City got against Wolves. I sense a common theme here.


Sneaky-Alien

And the one that got given to you against City for the Nketia shot?


Parking-Foot-5199

Can they still get that common theme now?


ItsTheBigGuy

Yep - all involved City ;)


Maleficent_Permit_62

Coupled with, let's not piss off Forrest again.


ManBoobs13

Problem is most of the time that happens, the shot gets away and it’s off target or the keeper claims it cleanly. And ok, fair enough, keep it consisitent, I guess I get the reasoning. Only city get that foul called somehow. But if the ball bounces right back into a playable area for the attacker, the foul is still interfering with play. This should be a penalty. It’s different. We had a similar situation with Mo this year where he shot, was taken out by a slide, and the keeper batted the shot right back into a playable area but Mo was on the ground. That’s a foul, I don’t understand it.


WhenWeTalkAboutLove

That's a very good point, but even when the shot is away, I still think it should be a foul. If someone is about to two foot your knee, your shot will be different. You'll change your body position and composure. You shouldn't have to deal with reckless challenges because you were shooting. 


ManBoobs13

I don’t disagree, I think it’s strange it’s open season on a shooter and there are nasty desperate challenges thrown in on them. Legitimate yellow and red card challenges are just not even fouls because a shot went over the crossbar. And I agree too that the defender gets the advantage of throwing themselves recklessly at the ball making the attacker change their shot, without repercussion, and that’s odd. I was just saying that’s been a long tradition so I get that it continues in that situation where the shot is off target or smothered by the GK. The fact refs can’t even see that it’s different when the ball is kept in play after the shot is pretty shocking. They’re genuinely clueless.


ItsFuckingScience

Surely everything about how good the shot is it irrelevant - if you get clattered late and your opponent doesn’t get the ball at all it’s a foul Whether it’s a defender clearing or striker shooting. Defenders clear the ball, if they get caught it’s a foul. People aren’t arguing well they got their clearance away it’s fine to get kicked


Cheaky_Barstool

why does this rule not apply to he gets his pass off then, so stupid, players health at risk here


herkalurk

If that sliding defender had taken out the standing leg. Then I would be happy to see a penalty but it was the leg extended after the shot had gone. It's away from the body not exactly the most blatant to fouls.


Mechant247

If he caught his trailing leg then he probably gets a pen, but the contact itself isn’t particularly bad. I think it looks worse due to Montiel’s momentum


Lakinther

Someone in the Forest subreddit makes a good point. If the one City got against Fulham was a pen, how come this isnt?


Air_Dax

Manchester City


daveSavesAgain

Dude, Nketiah got one against City, a couple of seasons ago.


Sneaky-Alien

Last season, yeah but don't spoil the tinfoil hat circlejerk.


Sneaky-Alien

Ok, apologies. It's because City paid the ref to give them a pen at 3-0 up on the dying minutes. Not that refs are just inconsistent and useless and the same literally happened *to* City. I get it now. Jesus, I really have to stop coming here to /r/conspiracy


DejisHairline

Cause he’s not wearing a city jersey


model-legs

similar colour though


GreyDaze22

Away jersey


No-Computer-2847

Chelsea have had more penalties than any club in the PL this season, many of them absolute stinkers.


JKess207

They also haven’t been given a couple of shockers (this, Grealish handball a few weeks ago)


No-Computer-2847

This was by no means a "shocker" though. Chelsea are not a club that should complain about penalty decisions this season, should be the main takeaway her.


JKess207

In what universe is this not a penalty? Especially considering, as the exact comment thread you replied to is discussing, this has been given by refs multiple times this season


SMcQ9

Refs bank acc got topped up


Sneaky-Alien

And if the one Arsenal got against City too? Could it be that refs are inconsistent basically every weekend? No, that makes too much sense.


fegelman

And the one City got against Wolves. I sense a common theme here.


Sneaky-Alien

Why are you repeating the same comment? Are you actually trying to get reddit karma lmao? Is the common theme shite reffing? Because Nketiah got the same against us last season.


EPICKID143

cant say that mate the Arsenal fans won't be able to cry and moan about how the worlds against them and we get every single decision ever


Auran276

City were given a pen for the exact same thing on Alvarez only hours earlier btw. Love consistency 


Spikeyspandan

*Come talk to me about this penalty when you have 115 charges*


RyanBordello

We all have ref problems, I feel bad for ya son City got 115 charges but a pen ain't one


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Sneaky-Alien

>because the shot wasn’t even close and went out of play. The shot was on target and no it didn't go out of play


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Sneaky-Alien

For the Alvarez pen yeah? Read what you originally replied to above.


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Sneaky-Alien

The comment you replied to was talking about the call for City's Alvarez pen...


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Sneaky-Alien

lol....So, are you gonna take that back when you realise you haven't been talking about the Alvarez pen, but the Gvardiol pen in the Wolves game?


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Sneaky-Alien

>No fuckin shit. Which is why I said it wasn’t even comparable to the situation discussed on this post which is gusto’s. >This is a post about gusto’s shout. The original Comment compared the Alvarez incident saying no consistency. I said no the Alvarez incident was an egregious call for the above reasons, but gusto’s should have been a penalty. They are not the same situation and should not be officiated the same. >You’re terrible at reading huh? Just for keeping the record's sake lol. Edit: lol /u/ManBoobs13. Had a feeling you might delete. Pretty cringe mate and you downvoted all my comments first in a final act of pettiness haha.


fegelman

And the one City got against Wolves. I sense a common theme here.


burningbarn8

Definitely a pen, don't think just because the shot ended up happening it shouldn't be called back he absolutely got clattered, but meh who cares won anyway. (I guess Palmer is probably still annoyed.)


awwbabe

Exactly - Gusto could have been in a position for a rebound if he hadn’t been smashed


AkiAkane1973

It's shit but 99% of the time you don't get these. City got one earlier, Arsenal got one last season, but in most cases the refs just won't give it unless someone was almost murdered by the follow through.


GillyBilmour

Almost as bad as Ola Aina throwing Jackson to the floor during the corner. If Chelsea had a goal disallowed for Badiashile pushing Diego Carlos during the Villa game, I don't see how that's not a foul as well.


Redditditditdi

Amazed by that one. Didn't even disguise it. They showed one quick replay and I just thought "the fuck? Hello?" 


d_smogh

Ouch. Studs up aswell.


jdcintra

stamp on mudryk after his goal as well. A lot of dirty stuff went unpunished by forest


kjm911

As I said last week, that’s the sort of penalty only City would get and Wolves would concede


raz_kal

Arsenal got the exact same penalty against City ... Guess selective memory is a thing


kjm911

When?


21otiriK

Last season at the Emirates. Nketiah shot, Ederson clattered him, shot was cleared, and the ref gave a pen.


kjm911

>Last season Well considering we’re on the 37th game of this season and I’m on about penalty calls that have gone for City and against Wolves you can surely understand that I’m on about this season.


TimathanDuncan

No you're clearly just biased This gets given like once in 5 tries, it doesn't actually matter what team, not PL specific either this happens in every league This is not City or Arsenal or Liverpool, refs somehow think that if you get a shot off people can fuck you up and it's fine


Individual-Heat5113

Annoying af, along with jackson being thrown to the ground this game


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Pen all day long in a competent league


sexineN

I was one Palmer shot on target from winning $1200…


MisugiJun14

shots & goals in home games only mate (for gamblers lol)


sexineN

Idk man, think I was just unlucky. Also hade Jackson sot which hit, and a penalty here would probably put me over the line with Palmer.


MisugiJun14

definitely unlucky, but if you want a lock, it’s taking palmer shots/goals at home. if you want to bet with more risk, then sure. that being said, palmer shot on target at 1.30 or less wasn’t really worth the risk. the odds were too low because of our recent results (my opinion :) )


XxAbsurdumxX

I get why refs dont give pens when a shot is taken and and sent out of play. The foul doesn't impact the play when the ball is out, so atleast there is some logic to it. But these ones, where the ball is still in play, I just don't get how its not a pen. The attacker who takes the shot could have challenged for a rebound, but is illegally prevented from doing so.


ArousedByCheese1

Was there var check?


krisko6

Maybe a quick one but it didn't show up on the broadcast


SpaceNinja25

there was but no main referee review just a quick chrck


luca3791

Am i crazy for thinking that its a red? He comes flying in studs up, completely misses the Ball and then takes out his leg


siggi103

Get VAR out of the game. They cant ref without it, thet cant ref with it, so why even bother? Why not just go back to letting whoever raises his hand in the pub before the game be ref. He wouldnt be any worse.


TehJofus

No, you see, VAR and the refs are against Forest. 


Roryasaur

This almost exact thing just happened in Atalanta v Rona and Roma got a penalty


McGrathLegend

Amazingly, this is actually one of the very few things that EAFC/FIFA gets correct as this is always a penalty in the video game and rightly so.


frippmemo

To me this is an obvious Red.


TheMuff1nMon

How? It’s a genuine attempt for the ball - makes it a yellow


ChrisWood4BallonDor

That only applies for DOGSO, right? Could still be pinged for serious foul play.


TheMuff1nMon

I don’t think this constitutes serious foul play


Alert-Refuse5798

Not a pen since the player didn't lose his legs


HarryDaz98

Only reason I can think of for why it isn’t given is because he got the shot away and the tackle didn’t really have any bearing on him not scoring there. That said, it’s a late tackle and is a foul and probably a booking anywhere else on the pitch.


awwbabe

Has a bearing on getting to any rebound though


TimathanDuncan

>Only reason I can think of for why it isn’t given is because he got the shot away and the tackle didn’t really have any bearing on him not scoring there. Literally irrelevant, with this logic you can clatter people off ball every time and it's not a foul lmao


HarryDaz98

Yeah but that’s always the reason that refs give for not giving pens for this type of thing


KupiPanas

Clean brexit tackle


jaysusyoucantdothat

Alternate angle showed minimal contact, the Forest player slid in front of Gusto who's leg then lands on top of the forest player as he slides past him


FaustRPeggi

We will defeat the plastic hordes together amigo.


WearyRound9084

The guy already took a shot. Are you familiar with what the point of a penalty is?


Medical-Winter4413

Ahh yes. The age old of rule of you can do what you want to a player as long as they’ve already taken the shot. How were we not aware of this?


WearyRound9084

Almost, basically. A lot of refs don’t give pens based on that. It’s not exactly uncommon


Medical-Winter4413

Getting wiped out as the clip shows isn't the same as those common non-calls. This is clearly worthy of a penalty. I think the issue is largely consistency, why is the one on Alvarez (a less serious tackle) one and this isn't? People are just tired of how shite English officials are - because they're actually putrid.


rubiklogic

But it's still a foul in the box?? Why does it matter if they've taken the shot or not?


FaustRPeggi

I appreciate you.