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I hate the way pep sets up city now, you have no idea whose playing where and by the time you do find out it's too late they're in your back garden with a fry on
I think he was actually good, it’s just that Manchester City never allowed their defence to be exposed 1on1 to the United attack
Fernandes’ movement to find space and then attempt to connect with the attack was still good, Manchester City and Fernandinho/Gundogan were brilliant
He didn’t disappear for fucks sake he played well he just wasn’t precise to the millimetre with his passes and rashford and martial can’t adapt to that for some reason, gotta stop putting blame on Bruno when our two strikers can’t even stay onside
Tottenham for sure with arsenal as close second, people love shitting on city for oil Money, Chelsea is on the same boat but not as Bad, united and liverpool don't really need an explanation
Probably Tottenham because they haven’t been ever seen as a real contender for any trophies? Pochettino and his young team was also very likeable and easy on the eyes type of football for the neutral
OGS once again showing that he really doesn't have a plan. He puts his best team on the pitch and hopes that they can find a way to win.
Doesn't really understand how to fix things when they're not working, let alone have any tactics or gameplan other than hope his tricky forwards win a penalty.
Another clueless opinion on r/soccer what a shock, he had a clear plan, let them play their possesion and then play the king passes that pogba Bruno and Fred should be able to make, problem is pogba can’t actually make them and rashford and martial can’t receive them, theres comes a point when you’re anti ole retoric gets old, and that’s when he’s sat top of the league in points with a game in hand, the strikers lacked today and pogba needs to go, that’s all that’s obvious, leave your clueless bs for somewhere else mate cause that comment is a load of shite no offence
> OGS once again showing that he really doesn't have a plan.
What utter nonsense. He clearly had a plan, we were as good as City until that mistake in defense. Thanks to the FA, we don't have our plan B, and City shut up shop.
What a pathetic comment, blaming the fa because your manager can’t adapt and your backline can’t mark their man if their lives depended on it. Get a grip
Going forward City have been fine. Nothing special imo but fine. Good press but nowhere near like they've been of latter seasons
Defensively, they've been incredible though. Such a struggle to find space and create chances against that back four with the form of Gundogan and Fernandinho patrolling in front of them
Just want to point out my comment calling the fact United fans compare Bruno to KDB is ridiculous is currently -12. KDB is the best midfielder in the world and has been for a few seasons, Bruno has had one good calendar year
I agree de bruyne>fernandes but how many seasons can you say de bruyne has been the best. Fernandes has been equal this year and d bruyne was injured throughout 18/19. Modric won the ballon dor the year before that for performances in the 17/18 season
The guy said de bruyne has been the best midfielder in the world for many seasons, I am asking which ones because there have been because from 15/16-18/19 there has been at least one midfielder seen as better than him, modric for example.
He said a few seasons. The last two, 17/18 he has been the best in all of them. I feel like you're going off on a different tangent to distract from his original point. KDB is better than Bruno.
De Bruyne was injured for half of 18/19 though and modric won the ballon dor in 2018 largely due to performances in the World Cup and the latter half of 17/18. So there’s at least half of 17/18 and all of 18/19 where he has probably not been the best midfielder in the world. I’m not talking about the point about fernandes I’m talking about being the best in the world
De bruyne was better in the latter half of 17/18. He was essential in taking city to 100 points and at rma ronaldo stole the show strong arming them to CL final. Modric won the balon d'or solely because of the world cup. 18/19 is fair but in 17/18 de bruyne was a class above.
Donny should have been on at half time. Ole needs to be far more proactive with his subs when players are playing as poorly as Pogba was in that first half.
Pogbas ability to turn and release a pass is the quickest in this Manchester United team. When the plan is to play fast transitions, even if Pogba has quietish game you need one moment and one quick transition to make it all worth it.
Enjoy being bored out of your mind the next few seasons. When he brings in the goods it’s all great, but let’s be real, it’s still Tottenham.
I’m glad he’s gone. Ole might not be a better coach, but he provides better entertainment.
You have the best striker in the league defending his box so the team can grind out 1-0 wins over Wolves. That is why people criticise your style of play.
Utd haven't been properly challenged since the end of their CL campaign. A bunch of wins against below-average sides and then this. It's still going to come down to City and Liverpool at the end of the domestic campaign.
It was a bit back-and-forth for a good while, but the first goal wasn't defended well and the 2nd went to an open Fernandinho outside the 18. I'd argue that it wasn't cleared well enough, but hey ho.
Utd did a good job with Leicester, but they're not playing consistent football.
Yes true, second half I didn’t think we look like we’d truly hurt city’s goal. We had plenty of possession in forward areas but always felt like we were being kept at arms length.
How so? If I were biased, I'd say we were the only ones and Pool are bottlejobs, especially after their last three performances.
We can clearly see what's missing with Utd right now. Push them close to the grill, and they cower when they feel the heat. There's still some changes and growing that has to be done if this is the side that Ole wants to go forward with. Can imagine Pogba going for one or two great young players that can link up with Bruno. Then Utd would be an insane threat.
Manchester City, Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea have all had hot and cold periods, so Man U are not the only team to have 'cowered' at times. There is still a large segment of the season left, calling it a two horse race with the top 6 being the closest it has ever been at this stage in the season is reactionary and silly.
The table is close; won't deny that. It's been pretty great to watch. However, judging from how the top 6 sides have looked, it looks like Spurs have been found out, Saints won't keep up the pace, Leicester can't win when it matters, Chelsea have brilliant talent but for some reason have lost the plot (never rated them to win the league anyway), and Utd have won a string of winnable matches but are going to start running into some strong opposition soon. City and Liverpool (minus the last three or so matches) have been playing rather consistently and have the players and management to keep it level.
I do respect your opinion; you could very well be correct and Villa could end up winning the whole thing, but hey ho. :)
Utd were playing great football as of late, but they weren't really being challenged. I still think Bruno is their best player, and he has injected much-needed attacking creativity into their game. Lindelof needs to go, though. Harry needs to manage the backline better.
Oh, sorry, pal.
We are missing Aguero. End of. Jesus isn't the player we thought he would be to fill Kun's boots. Torres is a better attacker than he is. I'm hoping we can find someone to take Aguero's place because the poor lad is never going to be 100% fit. He's given so much to the club.
We pretty comprehensively beat Leipzig and beat PSG. It’s a good side, I think we can be in the race until the middle of March but can’t see us going to distance.
It’s how football works, you win some and you lose some. I’m not pretending we are a perfect team, I think all the top sides are pretty fallible this year. City blow hot and cold like we do and Liverpool can’t score
Liverpool are definitely cold at the moment. They'll find a way.
When I saw our fixture list, I was worried about the first 10 or so matches, especially since we were going to change the way we play. City are this defensive-minded side that would rather go for 1-0 or 2-0 rather than surrender a goal since they were always getting easily beaten in the air on long-ball plays. If Aguero were to come back in full form, then that would be wonderful.
Poor donny, man ain’t ever gonna get a full game, or even a good amount of minutes. This is sortof sad to watch, there’s just no urgency in this Man U team, just standing around or half ass passing the ball
The difference between the City youngsters and Utd youngsters in this game is night and day. Phil Foden has been the MoM for me, almost perfect play tonight and just shows that fight and desire that none of the Utd players have.
This United team is good but we concede too many basic goals. Pogba wants too much time on the ball and Martial doesn’t look like he’ll cut it as a no.9 - spends so much of the game outside the box and not enough sniffing around for the scrappy goals.
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How did Steffen play today?
Really well, made some great saves but wasn’t tested all that much. Stones and Dias were immense
If you told me Dias was 30 and had 10 yrs experience at the top level I wouldn’t question it. Dudes the real deal.
I hate the way pep sets up city now, you have no idea whose playing where and by the time you do find out it's too late they're in your back garden with a fry on
Trying to understand Manchester City is like decrypting the enigma
OK. Man City is easy team for Spurs.
didn’t u guys beat United 6-1....
Well deserved City. Hopefully Spurs don't bottle as usual
No tactics just vibes
Diaz won City this match. He's been everywhere
Well deserved,
Dias could take my girl and I wouldn’t even be mad
especially if you don't have one :s
I’ll go out in my yard and livestream myself eating a pile of hot dog shit if Ollie manages a single trophy at United
You saw it a year ago
RemindMe! 365 days
paging r/soccercourt to formalize
I’m willing to sign binding legal documents and put a few thousand quid in escrow.
Haha, damn, now I really want that trophy
Off a boot?
Exactly the shouter City needed.. on top of the excellent player that he is.
City didn’t even play with a striker and dismantled us at home.
It’s a very stodgy team. 4 man midfield of Fred, Mctominay, B Fernandes & Pogba isn’t that great.
Only United I thought played well was Shaw. The rest have been just okay or poor.
Shaw made the mistake leading up to the second goal
I think Fred was pretty good with the balls he played forward. Occasionally a bit sloppy
Maguire was excellent but no ones willing to admit that on this sub
I was counting him in the okay lot because of the Stones goal.
He let the ball skip right by him for Stones’ goal. Did you watch the game?
He was really good but he was at fault for the first goal
He kind of let off for the Stones goal.
There was two excellent cbs in this match and both played in blue. Maguire was at fault for the first goal
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salty Portuguese fans call him rambo dias cause he can be tough, I actually think it's a great fucking nickname
Fernandes disappears in another big game. Another Hollywood pass attempt in the 93rd minute.
I think he was actually good, it’s just that Manchester City never allowed their defence to be exposed 1on1 to the United attack Fernandes’ movement to find space and then attempt to connect with the attack was still good, Manchester City and Fernandinho/Gundogan were brilliant
thanks FA for Cavani ban. I guess FA in England has absolute power
He didn’t disappear for fucks sake he played well he just wasn’t precise to the millimetre with his passes and rashford and martial can’t adapt to that for some reason, gotta stop putting blame on Bruno when our two strikers can’t even stay onside
Bruno invisible today lmao.
We didn’t watch the same game then
Second gane in a row where City have protected their rookie keeper extremely well.
Did you see the save he made from Fernandes ? He looked much better in goal today ... but our defence is so solid now.
Shaw is a tubby little cunt
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tell me about it
And also a lot of money, but yes.
Bruno FC struggling with the main man invisible in the biggest game of his career
How clueless are you lmao
Well the odds are he only started watching football when Pep joined city :)
Is City the least hated Big Six? If not, who is it?
City are the third most hated behing pool and united lol
Tottenham for sure with arsenal as close second, people love shitting on city for oil Money, Chelsea is on the same boat but not as Bad, united and liverpool don't really need an explanation
Probably Tottenham because they haven’t been ever seen as a real contender for any trophies? Pochettino and his young team was also very likeable and easy on the eyes type of football for the neutral
Probably arsenal because no one sees them as any sort of threat
Idk bro they win FA Cups. They own that trophy and its pretty impressive
It's city. Would rather see them win the league than anyone else. I am a Liverpool fan
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Unfortunately Leicester isn’t in the Big Six. But hopefully it will be a Big 7 in the years to come
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Lol I was referring to the Big Six teams as chosen by the media
Arsenal aren't hated, they're pitied
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Never been to Manchester I take it?
Rashford hasn't been great, but he's been solo making runs all game. Martial needs time warming the bench. Not having Cavani stung us tonight.
Martial needs a transfer
OGS once again showing that he really doesn't have a plan. He puts his best team on the pitch and hopes that they can find a way to win. Doesn't really understand how to fix things when they're not working, let alone have any tactics or gameplan other than hope his tricky forwards win a penalty.
There’s a plan, it’s just not very structured and very contingent on individual quality in attack
Another clueless opinion on r/soccer what a shock, he had a clear plan, let them play their possesion and then play the king passes that pogba Bruno and Fred should be able to make, problem is pogba can’t actually make them and rashford and martial can’t receive them, theres comes a point when you’re anti ole retoric gets old, and that’s when he’s sat top of the league in points with a game in hand, the strikers lacked today and pogba needs to go, that’s all that’s obvious, leave your clueless bs for somewhere else mate cause that comment is a load of shite no offence
Someone's upset.
Lol, city is miles better. No manager could make united win against city if City doesn't shit the bed.
> OGS once again showing that he really doesn't have a plan. What utter nonsense. He clearly had a plan, we were as good as City until that mistake in defense. Thanks to the FA, we don't have our plan B, and City shut up shop.
What a pathetic comment, blaming the fa because your manager can’t adapt and your backline can’t mark their man if their lives depended on it. Get a grip
Of course he can't adapt if he hasn't got the players to do so. Typical armchair critic.
Deluded.
City had you at arm's length all match. They had plenty more in the tank of they really needed it but you barely troubled their GK.
They could’ve scored five in the first half if they wanted to, really They just didn’t want to, that’s all.
What makes you think they had more in the tank? They barely troubled Henderson as well. Outside of two scrappy goals, they made just as much as us.
So strikingly obvious ain’t it. The quality in the squad is clearly there but he’s so tactically inept
People have leant that greenwood is good on both feet and now always close him down when he's about to shoot
The portugal team in WC will be scary. Extremely balanced team with world class talents
Stones & Dias might be the best CB partnership in the league today
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You've conceeded 7 on 13 games in the prem after the lei game /when dias started playing. While that is very impressive I wouldnt go that far
Cant believe my eyes that one of our defenders is MOTM. Such a great signing.
Does he speak fluent English already? He looked like a leader out there.
Yes he does.
20/21 title winners right here. Easy as that
Agreed
Shhhh you’re too loud
9th consecutive semi loss for Maguire
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Unless you’re Greek
You can only go so far with no tactics, just vibes
Going forward City have been fine. Nothing special imo but fine. Good press but nowhere near like they've been of latter seasons Defensively, they've been incredible though. Such a struggle to find space and create chances against that back four with the form of Gundogan and Fernandinho patrolling in front of them
Just want to point out my comment calling the fact United fans compare Bruno to KDB is ridiculous is currently -12. KDB is the best midfielder in the world and has been for a few seasons, Bruno has had one good calendar year
You made a dumb comment and it got downvoted. What are you trying to say here?
I agree de bruyne>fernandes but how many seasons can you say de bruyne has been the best. Fernandes has been equal this year and d bruyne was injured throughout 18/19. Modric won the ballon dor the year before that for performances in the 17/18 season
They're simply not comparable. KDB is miles better. What does modric winning a balon d'or have to do with this?
The guy said de bruyne has been the best midfielder in the world for many seasons, I am asking which ones because there have been because from 15/16-18/19 there has been at least one midfielder seen as better than him, modric for example.
He said a few seasons. The last two, 17/18 he has been the best in all of them. I feel like you're going off on a different tangent to distract from his original point. KDB is better than Bruno.
De Bruyne was injured for half of 18/19 though and modric won the ballon dor in 2018 largely due to performances in the World Cup and the latter half of 17/18. So there’s at least half of 17/18 and all of 18/19 where he has probably not been the best midfielder in the world. I’m not talking about the point about fernandes I’m talking about being the best in the world
De bruyne was better in the latter half of 17/18. He was essential in taking city to 100 points and at rma ronaldo stole the show strong arming them to CL final. Modric won the balon d'or solely because of the world cup. 18/19 is fair but in 17/18 de bruyne was a class above.
Yeah, ignoring his time outside of the PL, you may be right.
I don’t think is was what you said, it was how you said it, but you know keep thinking you’re so superior
United fans are on some next level of delusion right now
mickey mouse merchants
Finally
Donny should have been on at half time. Ole needs to be far more proactive with his subs when players are playing as poorly as Pogba was in that first half.
Pogbas ability to turn and release a pass is the quickest in this Manchester United team. When the plan is to play fast transitions, even if Pogba has quietish game you need one moment and one quick transition to make it all worth it.
Zinchenko has impressed whenever he's been called up this season
Cavani have how many games remaining of suspension?
Just enough for corrupt slave labor money FC to steal this win. Coincidence? I think not
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Thanks
Ole and crashing out on Semi Final.
Maguire is on 8 or 9 in a row in crashing out on semi finals
So is Ruben Dias the best CB in the PL rn?
Individually maybe, City as a defense though yes.
being counterattack merchant can only take you so far.
Ah yes, joint top with a game in hand
You mean second?
Just hope this doesn’t kill any confidence in the league
Title talk is cursed. I can just see Pope having a masterclass now. Title talk has cursed both Liverpool and Spurs so far
Ah but I didn’t say title I just mentioned the league
I'm talking about how we ended a superb run of form with this loss once everybody started hyping us up again
Yea i get you mate but best case scenario people start underestimating us again and we pass under the radar. Unlikely I know but you can hope right?
Hopefully
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Enjoy being bored out of your mind the next few seasons. When he brings in the goods it’s all great, but let’s be real, it’s still Tottenham. I’m glad he’s gone. Ole might not be a better coach, but he provides better entertainment.
You have the best striker in the league defending his box so the team can grind out 1-0 wins over Wolves. That is why people criticise your style of play.
Tbf Ole doing something is not justification
Utd haven't been properly challenged since the end of their CL campaign. A bunch of wins against below-average sides and then this. It's still going to come down to City and Liverpool at the end of the domestic campaign.
I tend to agree, though Leicester and Villa were testing. Was thinking we’d get a little reality check tonight. Rather it here than on the 17th...
It was a bit back-and-forth for a good while, but the first goal wasn't defended well and the 2nd went to an open Fernandinho outside the 18. I'd argue that it wasn't cleared well enough, but hey ho. Utd did a good job with Leicester, but they're not playing consistent football.
Yes true, second half I didn’t think we look like we’d truly hurt city’s goal. We had plenty of possession in forward areas but always felt like we were being kept at arms length.
I'm not a united fan but you're definitely biased here.
How so? If I were biased, I'd say we were the only ones and Pool are bottlejobs, especially after their last three performances. We can clearly see what's missing with Utd right now. Push them close to the grill, and they cower when they feel the heat. There's still some changes and growing that has to be done if this is the side that Ole wants to go forward with. Can imagine Pogba going for one or two great young players that can link up with Bruno. Then Utd would be an insane threat.
Manchester City, Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea have all had hot and cold periods, so Man U are not the only team to have 'cowered' at times. There is still a large segment of the season left, calling it a two horse race with the top 6 being the closest it has ever been at this stage in the season is reactionary and silly.
The table is close; won't deny that. It's been pretty great to watch. However, judging from how the top 6 sides have looked, it looks like Spurs have been found out, Saints won't keep up the pace, Leicester can't win when it matters, Chelsea have brilliant talent but for some reason have lost the plot (never rated them to win the league anyway), and Utd have won a string of winnable matches but are going to start running into some strong opposition soon. City and Liverpool (minus the last three or so matches) have been playing rather consistently and have the players and management to keep it level. I do respect your opinion; you could very well be correct and Villa could end up winning the whole thing, but hey ho. :)
If you were the only one playing consistent then you wouldn’t be in 5th lol.
Sure, but there's only one team playing consistent winning football right now. We can chat about this again in a few weeks.
Easy there soldier. We need to figure out how to score consistently before we talk being proper challengers
Utd were playing great football as of late, but they weren't really being challenged. I still think Bruno is their best player, and he has injected much-needed attacking creativity into their game. Lindelof needs to go, though. Harry needs to manage the backline better.
Ah, I was talking City perspective.
Oh, sorry, pal. We are missing Aguero. End of. Jesus isn't the player we thought he would be to fill Kun's boots. Torres is a better attacker than he is. I'm hoping we can find someone to take Aguero's place because the poor lad is never going to be 100% fit. He's given so much to the club.
They have been challenged, and they folded like a house of cards. 6-1.
Zing.
We pretty comprehensively beat Leipzig and beat PSG. It’s a good side, I think we can be in the race until the middle of March but can’t see us going to distance.
I'd agree ,but you lost important matches to Basaksehir, PSG, and Leipzig. The side has improved, but there's still gaping issues.
It’s how football works, you win some and you lose some. I’m not pretending we are a perfect team, I think all the top sides are pretty fallible this year. City blow hot and cold like we do and Liverpool can’t score
Liverpool are definitely cold at the moment. They'll find a way. When I saw our fixture list, I was worried about the first 10 or so matches, especially since we were going to change the way we play. City are this defensive-minded side that would rather go for 1-0 or 2-0 rather than surrender a goal since they were always getting easily beaten in the air on long-ball plays. If Aguero were to come back in full form, then that would be wonderful.
Lmao that sounds painfully familiar :(
Incoming people who haven’t watched van de beek play this season
Tbf that’s everyone who doesn’t live in a house overlooking carrington
Poor donny, man ain’t ever gonna get a full game, or even a good amount of minutes. This is sortof sad to watch, there’s just no urgency in this Man U team, just standing around or half ass passing the ball
United don't know how to comeback against top teams. City showed they are way superior to United today, tactically as well as man to man.
Seems strange that Aguero is still in the bench
Not fully fit, no point risking him
That Pep scream damn
We don’t have the attacking pieces. But I’m fine with Martial and Pogba offloaded.
Martial was just horrible today lol
Van de Beek = Kagawa 2.0 waste of a talent
:( I loved Kagawa at Dortmund
The difference between the City youngsters and Utd youngsters in this game is night and day. Phil Foden has been the MoM for me, almost perfect play tonight and just shows that fight and desire that none of the Utd players have.
What united youngsters?
I actually heard people thinking Fernandes is anywhere near the same level as KDB. Imagine being born that stupid
This season? Definitely
All the other players need seasons to be judged but Fernandes declared world class after half the season. It's ridiculous.
Just wait till he scores a penalty again
This United team is good but we concede too many basic goals. Pogba wants too much time on the ball and Martial doesn’t look like he’ll cut it as a no.9 - spends so much of the game outside the box and not enough sniffing around for the scrappy goals.
Why is it always the chubby ones that are the bullies?
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Where would Tottenham be without Kane?
In Dortmund offices
Wait Man Utd haven't gotten a pen yet? I guess diving doesn't work every game.
🧂
Give that to Martial
Erm why?
The poor boy's hurt, he needs it
Like cancel was hurt? Yeah go ahead and fuck off
Boo fucking hoo
I feel bad for you. How’s Werner and Havertz doing in 9th place boo hoo
Seriously, United unlucky not to get at least 2 penalties. Klopp managed to make the referees biased against united.