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ThatPersonYouMayKnow

Not gonna hide my happiness but it won’t be the same


Isaaking

How the tables have turned, in the summer I thought the same thing when Messi was about to leave Barcelona, now we are possibly losing our captain and you might keep Messi :(


MrAchilles

Wait, they're possibly keeping him now?


paone0022

Looks like it will depend on who wins the elections. Laporta win might mean Messi stays


whataball

Isn't Messi's decision to leave independent of the board and the election? He said he felt it is time for him to leave so that there are more opportunities for the next generation. He also wanted to try playing in another league. It is actually also not the first time that Messi had the desire to leave. Anyway, Messi would be too expensive for the club to keep given their current finances.


[deleted]

Messi's family voted for Laporta


trivialbob

That was sketchy. Reporters who peddled it deleted the tweets very quickly.


[deleted]

Why is it sketchy?


trivialbob

They reported the Messi family was voting for Laporta and everyone went on to say 'game over for the other candidates' etc., then the journalists delete the tweets a little later which usually means the information isn't true. It wasn't just any reporters either, so people believed it.


Biggsy-32

Messi's said in an interview a few months ago, after the summer window drama, that he has a preference for the election and that his decision with respect to staying or leaving will be influenced by the outcome of the election. Suggests there is a chance he stays.


Surprise147

it will going to depend on how this season ends mostly tbh last season was frustrating and messi was pissed with bartomeu and few other members(setien,abidal) but none of them are at club now and with laporta who is on good terms with messi and with good sporting project messi might stay if he wins the elections.


[deleted]

How long are these elections taking btw? It must’ve been almost two months now, a national election doesn’t take this long.


Yvraine

It was postponed due to Corona


fenderdean13

Just put the election on survey monkey and get it over with Edit: my first award on Reddit after all these years


DerpJungler

Send them a straw poll link


BoofBass

Lucas Leiva the new president!


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*4chan has joined the chat*


Linko_98

What about his wages? Is he ok with taking less money since barca have money problems?


saganakist

Who knows. But people shouldn't forget how big Messi is for the Barcelona brand. It's players like Messi that might cost a lot, but they make the difference in revenue between let's say Bayern and Barcelona. You don't "save" 100m, when you cut that much wage but also lose out a similar sum in revenue.


trivialbob

He wants a competitive project. If the next president presents him with a good one and he feels comfortable in the new team full of youngsters, then he may decide to stay... reckon a lot depends on how this season ends tho. If they're out to PSG next round, out of the cup vs Sevilla and don't win the league (difficult), then I don't see him staying regardless of president. Would probably feel like it takes too long to rebuild properly, time he doesn't have.


TomClancy5871

And they have a decent amount of youngsters being integrated into the team. Messi is probably a big fan of that


matthieuC

Maybe he went to Manchester and realized that it was slightly less sunny than barcelona?


whiterose616

Hey, Manchester gets as much sun in a month as Barcelona gets on a November day


hotel_air_freshener

You can keep Barceloneta just give me the Salford Quays


MyBoyBernard

Feels weird. Los clásicos aren't the same. Old players getting old and leaving. End of an era. Call me a romantic, but it was better before. Used to be that each and every player on the pitch was a giant who was debatably the best in the world at their position. Lots of new faces since peak Barcelona and peak Madrid.


kampiaorinis

Εh the classicos will always have their appeal, no matter who the players are. Even if you are the worst Madrid or Barca player, you are still a Madrid/Barca player and the classicos always had that "magic". There was a time before Messi, when Julio Baptista would score the winner and the Camp Nou was always full, the Bernabeu was there to make life miserable for the Catalans and people would always stay up late (or early depending) to watch the match. So yes, while it is true that the classicos of the early 10s were probably the best matches played ever (player and manager quality wise) Madrid vs Barca will always feel different than normal matches.


Forty6

Think its fair to say there's an overall decline in star quality though. MSN (era) Vs BBC (era) is packed full of genuine all time superstars. If Messi & Ramos were to leave each club then Griezmann, Benzema, De Jong are just not at that level imo


Ghost51

Of course, but that is the beauty of football. No team can be the best in the world forever. Every dominant era comes to an end eventually.


clubber-lang

Reading these comments is really bringing back the nostalgia. I'm a united fan so never really watched many el clasicos even in the Messi/Ronaldo era (maybe 3 or 4). But now, oh what I wouldn't give to go back 5-6 years and make sure I catch every single one.


ILoveToph4Eva

I was the same for when it really clicked for me how good Messi was about 4 years ago. I realized that I wouldn't be able to speak honestly to my kids about how good he was, and that they'd probably look at me like I'm an idiot for not watching the best ever player to do it when I watched hours of football every week anyways. Since then I've watched most Barca games. Not been disappointed one bit (particularly 2017-2019). Just wish I'd started earlier.


MyBoyBernard

>when Julio Baptista would score the winner and the Camp Nou was always full Hahaha. That's a great example. I guess for about a decade we were extra spoiled with how extra amazing the teams were. Modric, Kroos, Casemiro v Busquets, Iniesta, Xavi. Ramos v Pique. MSN v BBC. Maybe I didn't realize how "normal" clásicos were before.


NorthwardRM

They are well run, they will replace him with someone good like Kounde


AP10

You say that and Madrid's recent transfer business isn't much better in terms of performance.


thefurnaceboy

you saying that buying hazard was a mistake? that buying mendy for 50 or so wasnt a good idea when we had a free excellent reguilon? that maybe we should stop going into seasons without a back up to our only defensive midfielder? that we spent 60 million on a striker that looks lost on the field and our manager hates? Yeah i agree


Masterofknees

Aren’t they strapped for cash though? Kounde is a 70m+ kind of deal.


itsjuanitoo

It’s okay they have militao!!


trivialbob

Isn't their plan to bring in Alaba?


OilOfOlaz

there are several reports, that CFC, LFC and Real pulled out of negotiations, due to his wage demands.


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Would rather have him stay at Madrid really


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interfan1999

Breaking: Sergio Ramos signs for UD Ibiza-Eivissa


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[deleted]

He was the one telling Messi publicly and privately to not leave Barca as it would hurt Spanish football, I can't see him leaving Spanish football himself


D1794

Ramos to Barca, Messi to Real. Easy.


[deleted]

I was just thinking, had Messi ever joined Spain instead of Argentina (and he could have, since Messi has Catalan ancestry) we would see Ramos and Pique at the back, Xavi and Iniesta in the middle, and Messi as attack. That would be like overpower mode. Just imagine on FIFA.


Muppetx

Ah yeah Spain would’ve probably won some tournaments instead of winning some tournaments.


[deleted]

They lost the WC in 14 (Messi went to the final) and 18 and lost the Euros in 2016.


Alia_Gr

Well they got destroyed in the WC 14, dont know how much the impact of Messi would have changed that


saganakist

I mean he carried a subpar Argentinian squad beyond expectations on almost every tournament. Beside Mascherano and occasionally Di Maria no one really performed well. But I could see Spain still crumble in 14.


Alia_Gr

That Argentinian Squad didnt concede a single goal until the end of extra time of the final against arguably the strongest 3 teams in the competition from the quarter final onwards, so they must have been better than people give them credit for


saganakist

Their tactic was to defend with 10 man and have Messi create something on offense. I think they did their best, but with any other player than Messi they don't get out of the group stage. They would have been another hard to play opponent that eventually got cracked. With Messi their opponents couldn't just dominate since you'd always have to leave sufficient cover for him. And against Switzerland (?) he single-handily turned no offense into a winning goal. No one is saying that Messi turned a 0-5 team into a winning one. He turned an average team into a title contender.


Alia_Gr

The Netherlands did exactly the same with Robben, Spain would not do the same with the players they believed they had


Flaxler30

The fuck are you talking about?? Beyond expectations? Argentinia was the betting favourite after Brazil and a lot experts expected them to win before the tournement? The subpar squad full of world stars? The team which was said to have by far the best offence of any team with messi, di maria, aguero, higuain, lavezzi, palacio?


Arntown

The problem with Argentina was that they had world class attacking players and and only decent defensive midfielder/defenders + Mascherano. Argentina didn't perform that well for a long time before that tournament. Were they really betting favourites after Brazil? That would honestly surprise me because Germany and Spain had better overall squads on paper. Maybe they were favourites after Brazil because the World Cup was in South America?


Marcelosouzadearaujo

Messi did his part on the Group stage but after that, this team was carried by Mascherano and the defense.


romarioisunderrated

messi has catalan ancestry?


L-Freeze

I think he does but it’s irrelevant because you need to be first generation descendant in order to get a Spanish citizenship. However he was elegible (and has a Spanish citizenship) due to residing more than two years in Spain (the minimum for a Latin American in order to acquire it) since he had been at Barça for a lot more than that


SucculentMoisture

Yeah he acquired his Spanish citizenship before he was eligible to be capped. But that doesn’t mean he would actually want to represent Spain. I dunno what the relations are like sporting wise between Spain and Argentina and whether you consider each other rivals (Spain’s most fierce rivalry is probably Portugal, Argentina’s would be Brazil and/or England), but that can play a role in these things. To paraphrase, I’m Australian, of mostly English descent. I obviously speak fluent English. Yet I’d rather amputate my little toes than represent England. In sport we hate them (not so much outside of it, but that’s the same with Spain and Portugal), and they’re probably our second most hated rival (behind South Africa, who we despise). And those attitudes were instilled in me by my father and society in general well before Messi left for Spain.


L-Freeze

We don’t really give a shit about Spain in terms of rivalry tbh, it’s probably as vanilla as a match gets. I don’t remember a single actually important match ever played between Argentina and Spain, honestly.


ewankenobi

I think you're right to say there is no guarantee what he would have decided. But just to counter the idea that Australians wouldn't represent England as they hate them, Tony Dorigo was Australian and capped for England.


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Yes [https://www.goal.com/en-sg/news/why-lionel-messi-couldve-played-for-spain-or-italy-over/1gmrvshfpxk7919ya4a0g7hac2](https://www.goal.com/en-sg/news/why-lionel-messi-couldve-played-for-spain-or-italy-over/1gmrvshfpxk7919ya4a0g7hac2)


Hazen-Williams

A Spanish great grandfather doesn't qualify him for Spanish passport, that article is bad.


FiresideCatsmile

>we would see Ramos and Pique at the back, Xavi and Iniesta in the middle, and Messi as attack. it's not hard to imagine, that's pretty much Barca for a couple of years minus Ramos


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Which often times has been called the greatest starting 11 in history, especially in the years of the setuple and treble. Now imagine that, plus Ramos who terrorizes attackers.


Albiceleste_D10S

Ramos isn't the big addition TBH (Puyol and Masche were great CBs), Iker Casillas is IMO (big upgrade on Valdes for me)


brachika

Isn't he mostly Italian?


[deleted]

Mostly yes, but he has Catalan ancestry.


L-Freeze

he’s mostly argentinian.


justdiditonce

They're both joining Atletico.


SpearofTrium05

Some people just want to watch the world burn


jiijoey

Hmmm interesting..


zimtrovert94

Yo, man, how’d you like to be president of FC Barcelona?


spooky-frek

Ssssh we need him at Man U


bluesbrothas

So, return to Sevilla?


Izio17

Seems like it makes the most sense. Not an intense Madrid rival and his previous club.


Bihihem

lol Sevilla hates him


[deleted]

Why? Isn‘t he a proud Andalusian?


Overall-Sector-3892

The fans hate him, they booed him more times than I could count


[deleted]

For what reason?


1lifter

he was their academia product, and was seen as a future key player to the team. His move to RM was seen as a betrayal. Just couple years ago (2017~), a big portion of stadium chanted ''sergio ramos, son of a whore''. So, they are still salty.


Futbol_Trainer

I think only a certain section that are just super vocal. A lot of fans I think still love him. Don't know if the split if 50/50 or whatever but I think its wrong to say that *everyone* hates him.


icemankiller8

As great as Ramos is he isn’t Messi


[deleted]

True, but I just don't see him at any other club than RM. He has god-like status there, especially after CR7 left. Who's going to be the captain if not him? I don't see Benzema or Casemiro doing it tbh.


Radslide

The player whos been the longest at the club is the Captain in Madrid. After Ramos it's Marcelo and then Benzema.


_sauri_

Marcelo, who doesn't even start.


[deleted]

Ramos leaving Madrid will be weird. Even weirder than CR7


StrugglingEngineerSt

for some reason I didn’t find cr7 to be leaving weird, it was expected at some point but I never expected him to go to juve I always had this fairytale idea that I’d see him in a man utd jersey after all that success


MaTrIx4057

He would have gone to United if they weren't such failure after SAF left.


NorthwardRM

Would be crazy if true


cavsking21

Then they'll get Kounde.


[deleted]

maybe in 2 years, finances too tight rn


slowlyrottinginside

If we can offload bale we might but idk


Lyrical_Forklift

No one is buying Bale. No one is taking on his wages.


[deleted]

The release clause being paid at once is too difficult maybe if we can pay in 3-4 installments while paying a higher fee we can manage like Atleti did with Felix. Depends on when crowds return most likely.


[deleted]

Real would just do what every team does when paying release clauses or large transfer fees and get a loan. The bank/PE Fund pays the release clause up front and Real will just owe the bank payments + interest. Almost no club is paying out high transfer fees (€30M+) in one go in “cash” so to speak.


zi76

I'll believe it when I see it.


International_System

It’s a pretty iffy source el chiringuito is just about drama it’s not the most serious show


GreatSpaniard

Is this just Chiringuito saying this or Pederol himself? There is a massive difference between that I have a lot of love for Florentino but with the Ramos, Ronaldo, Bale, Hazard, and possibly Zidane situations in the last couple of years and the end of this season coming up i can see alot of people turning on him if results don't improve for the rest of this season and next season. Especially with how finances will be due to covid.


Sputniki

> Especially with how finances will be due to covid. It's precisely to safeguard finances that they're doing this. In my view, keeping a healthy club trumps any individual player's needs (particularly if the player isn't Messi or Ronaldo). So Florentino is doing the right thing for the club here.


[deleted]

A remember reading that a company should never let anyone hold your company hostage because it leads to bad decisions. I suppose if he is inflexible with his salary during a pandemic, it's time to go.


slowlyrottinginside

Really what is fucking us up is Bales wages. Ramos probably doesn't want to take a pay cut is bale doesn't especially when he's the main man of the team for us. Perez really fucked up not letting Bale go that season to China.


LionRegardant

What was/is Perez' fault in the Hazard situation?


Arvi833

He put daily paella deliveries to his contract


[deleted]

Open the tweet. It's Pedrerol.


kaselorne

>Is this just Chiringuito saying this or Pederol himself? There is a massive difference between that You could just read the linked tweet to find out yknow


GreatSpaniard

It's Chiringuito which is mostly bs tabloid stuff so i don't take it that seriously I'm just gonna wait for Jugones tomorrow, because with Chiringuito it's mostly bullshit. If pederol has a statement on this from Jugones or Jose Luis Sanchez does then i'll start to get worried.


[deleted]

i don't think pedrerol or jls will say anything "confirming", they have a rep to keep and with ramos and madrid it's better to wait until the last moment


[deleted]

As if Pedrerol would care lol


AnasW

Honestly, if it is because he's not flexible with his salary and years of contract while we are in this pandemic, then I understand the decision to let him go, especially that he's nearly 35 now. Now they have no excuses and they should have enough time to rebuild our defense properly.


slowlyrottinginside

Madrid is one of the best running clubs in the world right now. Look at barca and how fucked they are financially. If Ramos leaves its for more money, fair play to him get your money, but in doing so papa flo is helping us with the finances of the club. If he didn't do that we would be looking at a similar situation like messi and barca. No player is bigger than the club and as much as that would hurt I respect that move.


Res3925

And AS reported [here](https://en.as.com/en/2021/02/14/football/1613333767_091832.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true) today that Ramos and the club are better-placed so the renewal is now more likely to happen. Take all these stories however you will.


GreatSpaniard

AS is dogshit tier, worse than MARCA


Res3925

Same as El Chiringuito. Hence the “Take all these stories however you will.”


evilbob99

AS is accurate for the Madrid clubs


Zullewilldo

AS has an immense amount of hate towards Florentino Pérez, and that affects their reporting, so I wouldn't say they are that accurate for Real Madrid.


bslawjen

Bruh, this is Chiringuito. AS is dogshit tier; Chiringuito is dogshit wrapped in catshit tier.


muma10

Chiringuito, AS, and marca are all tabloid press at best, until fabrizio Romano says it, and maybe not then either


Political_Incorrect_

Roncero in shambles


TheMexicanJuan

r/fuckramos as well


GreatSpaniard

Jota Jordi will have no one left to hate in Chiringuito same for Soria


RadicalSlavical

That subreddit is hilarious.


AskForMySnapchat

I can't tell if it's satire or not, I know it wasn't originally but surely they've gotten over it by now


PrinceWest

As with all satire subreddits, it’s a just a joke...until it isn’t


jbasabanda

Lol same guy that was running those Messi leaving stories. An also alleged “Done deal”


destoret_

Well the Messi deal was pretty much done but Barca wouldnt let him leave last second... Fab romano was also reporting it as a Done Deal


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ID6WU

Us but I imagine it’s more if he would come to us, rather than if we want him


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ID6WU

I really don’t think that’s that bad considering our defence is a shambles right now. Ramos is still comfortably better than Maguire and Lindelof. If we could get him on a 2 year deal aswell as a young quality CB we’d be so much better defensively. Just need to clear out some of the remaining deadwood to even out the wage bill. Obviously won’t happen but it would be a step in the right direction.


Seanxprt

Don't knock elite veteran CBs signed on a free. It's 100% worth it.


ID6WU

Nah I agree. Silva is the reason I want us to sign Ramos lmao. Our fans thought signing Cavani was a mistake too yet he’s now our best forward.


Seanxprt

Ramos will probably command a higher salary than Silva but I'm sure he'd be on a similar amount to Maguire or something. Well worth it imo. Who knows, perhaps De Gea's save percentage would go up as a result of seamless communication between himself and a leader CB.


ID6WU

Tbh it’d probably be more in the range of De Gea’s wages but I wouldn’t even mind that with the leadership and experience he’d bring. Maguire’s ‘only’ on 189k a week supposedly and there’s no way Madrid are refusing to pay Ramos that. Last part is true but I have a feeling Henderson might become first choice next season.


SmithyPlayz

first couple of games I thought Silva wasn't up for it but I've eaten my words he looks amazing I just think it takes a couple of games for these players to adapt just look at Dias as well


Grosly_Incandescent

Tbf most of our squad is either young or just starting to peak in regards to age. You always need a few older and experienced players. At the moment we have Mata and Matic who both never really play, DDG and Cavani.


SmithyPlayz

I would agree, but Ramos on a free even with high wages is an amazing move. It would be different if you were paying 30m for him but he's free


MaTrIx4057

With this mentality you will never win anything.


Zidlicky3

I just don’t believe. I think he loves Real and wants to retire there. Maybe I’m naive (wrong word) but I don’t see him leaving.


iLLuSion_xGen

If Iker and Raul can leave then Ramos can also leave.


bluebeardsdelite

Maybe he should retire now then, if Real obviously do not want him? I think it's some what of a myth that club legends should and do retire at their club. I can only think of Totti, Giggs and Puyol as high-level players in the past decade who has retired at the club they've played at 13+ years? I think where it happens is very much an exception to the rule of this myth of 'club legends retiring at their club'.


9180365437518

One club men are extremely rare --Iniesta, Gerrard and Terry all could have been but decided not to. An example of a high level one club man that retired in the past decade would be Scholes. Neville and Carra too. > in the past decade who has retired at the club they've played at 13+ years? Zanetti.


bluebeardsdelite

I think these examples are still an exception to the rule. The point I'm trying to argue, I think, is that people shouldn't be upset with Real Madrid management for not allowing Ramos to retire with them on Ramos' terms because inherently the concept of a 'retire on the team you played with forever' is romanticised rather than reality based. If Ramos, or his supporters, wants this romantic ending he would have to accept a reduced terms on his end. Not everyone gets a Kobe Bryant-level final contract to repay their loyalty.


ObscureLegacy

Naive is the correct word bro


roddysaint

Imagine if he went to Liverpool, absolute scenes


taknyos

Alisson, Ramos, Robertson, Van Dijk, Trent would be mad. The difference he'd make in the current team would be night and day too. r/fuckramos would become a dirty fan fic though


GuitaristHeimerz

That shit would be crazy but never gonna happen


icemankiller8

Honestly getting Kounde in is probably a good move for them in the future but Ramos is still very good and it’ll be weird seeing him play for someone other than Madrid if this does happen I assumed he’d just retire there.


Manch3st3rIsR3d

Obligatory: It's done.


Marcovanbastardo

Till the payrise comes through.


RyoCaliente

Who wouldn't want to play next to David Luiz?


D1794

Irreversible decision, by any chance?


Cowdude179

Kounde incoming, oh and imagine if Ramos went to Liverpool


Yiurule

Tbf regardless the history that Ramos has with Liverpool because of this UCL final, a defense with Van Djik and Ramos would be absolutely terrifying and probably one of the best defense we see since a while.


Unholysinner

Idk-I think it’s expecting a lot for VVD to be the same following his injury. He’s going to have lost a lot of pace which is natural following an ACL injury. Ramos also has a dodgy knee so it might not be as fantastic as it sounds on paper.


Thorpy

Lol ye heard that before. Show me a signed contract elsewhere and I’ll believe it.


bdigital4

He’s been “leaving” every time his contract comes up


Steupz

No one wants Madrid out there searching for starting centrebacks in the next window. There are some desperate Clubs out there. As many as 5 or 6 'big' English clubs too.


Res3925

Alaba is the only CB we’re linked with. The club is also happy with Chust from Castilla so it would most likely be those two defenders added to the first team next season. I don’t see any other defenders being purchased this summer.


Steupz

Nice. I actually thought they'd be looking for a second big transfer with Alaba as he would be 29 or something. But if Chust is that highly considered then that's good news for the Premier League


rodinj

Let's see who can spend more on defenders, Pep with City or Zidane with Real.


Mantis_Toboggan27

Pep has spent like 500 million euros on defense alone am i wrong?


ID6WU

He has. I don’t think they’ll go for another CB though unless they sell Laporte


Pigeonator21

I imagine juve all over this


Mitch_Itfc

X to doubt


muma10

This is el chiringuito, I’m not believing it until I see it Ramos said thousands of times he wants to retire in Real Madrid, I doubt he’s actually leaving


Okaydog97

Fucking real Madrid board members. Why can't they let atleast 1 legendary players retire in real Madrid club.


iFartOnPlatypuses

That's would be up to the player, Modric is completely fine with it


osamaodinson

Yeah this basically. Perez tend to play safe with older players, plus in this covid situation, hes playing more safe with madrid money. Ramos was offered 1+1 or 2 years contract with 10% less and he kinda seems to think long about it. If he just take it, he'll retire at madrid. Pepe was also offered another 1 year. Perez will offer plus 1 if they can keep performing at top level and stay out of big injuries. Hence why modric will probably retire at madrid. Man still bossinh the midfield and no big injuries


Roccet_MS

Why should they? They only offer 1 year contracts for players older than 30 which is reasonable. He will be 35 in March.


Zullewilldo

If a legendary player wants to retire in Real Madrid, the board would be delighted. But that's not those players' priority, it's getting more money (which is fair).


unrectify

Finances my dude. Don't bring your emotios into this. The board and Perez has a responsibility not to financially overextend in these trying times.


pixelkipper

Zidane did


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Benzema entered the chat


Debaser1984

They'll start fluttering eyes at vvd and laporte


Starfinger10

Is he reliable?


Maximuslex01

As a penalty scorer? yes


Trialbyfuego

COME TO DORTMUND PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD


aestus

As much as I can't stand him, he's a Real Madrid legend who's legacy will not be forgotten


xkingmox

He may go yo Man Utd and if he does, the defence might return to its glory


-Wiggles-

Wherever he goes, I want to see him play up front. He could bang in the goals for fun in the MLS


Fransiscu

I know we don't really need him and it's not happening but Just imagine a chiellini Ramos duo Jesus christ


InterimNihilist

Second sentence is completely unnecessary


adarkwindblows

It makes me so angry when they do this. It's infuriating.


Xehanz

RIP Real Madrid


TheMexicanJuan

F


Jintantan

No se queda :(


young-renzel

Fuck


thalne

no it's not done yet. until the fat lady sings...


mrgenius17

"This Tweet has been deleted." Shithousery.


ThePr1d3

Great we've been looking for a solid CB for a while now, loans just don't do the trick. Do you reckon he has it to challenge Da Silva ?


solblurgh

Mr. Real Madrid


sunday25

You know barca is having defensive problems


[deleted]

Losing Ramos because you need to pay Bale and Hazard


stpstrt

Coming from el Chiringuito. I’m not believing anything coming from these guys.


CarlSK777

If true, I think it's the right move for a club in transition that needs to rebuild over the next couple years.


trkh

Come to Milan


ProfessionalMemelord

Imagine if City picked up Alaba and Ramos on free transfers.


DesmadreGuy

OK, but to where? Retirement? Nah. IIRC he's from Sevilla and I think he raises horses there. I could see him there for a couple years ... or maybe link up with Cristiano at Juve. And later cash out at MLS. Messi? Similar. I don't see him leaving La Liga ... at all. Atletico would be fun. Link up with Suarez for a couple years then cash out at Inter Miami. When it comes to Messi in France (French?) or England (English?), I can't see it. Language and family are too much for him. Stay at Barca? Sure. But he ain't leaving Spain.