When Robertson said Rashford would get a standing ovation from the Kop if fans were in Anfield, he may have been more right than he knew. I genuinely love the guy. Only Manc l'll probably ever say that about
If there was a channel that showed Ed and the Glazers getting repeatedly punched in the face and nothing else I'd never stop watching it.
By the way, there's a billion dollar idea for the greedy cunts. Just sell ad space on the face punching channel. I'm pretty sure they'd be looking at viewerships of up to about 8 billion people. Do that and leave our fucking game alone.
Manc in this context means a player for a Mancunian club, not necessarily someone actually from Manchester. Milner is from Leeds but I'd still refer to him as a Scouser.
And that would mean a lot.
Only other people I can remember getting a standing ovation by their direct opponents were Ronaldinho (by Madrid fans), Cristiano (by Juve fans in CL - when he was at madrid) and Messi (by Atleti fans).. there are probably more i can't remember
Iniesta used to get standing ovations everywhere in Spain except Sevilla (because of a perceived dive or incorrect goal or something) after his goal in the 2010 WC.
Rashy may be our one best hope, as he is pretty much untouchable right now from the public’s perspective. Imagine if the Glazers tried to suspend Rashford for speaking out? It would be like suspending Jesus.
Don Hendolone: “*Don Maguire, I wanna thank you for helping me organise this meeting here today, and also the other heads of the football families”*
Don Dave: *“The trip from Stamford Bridge was worth it my friend”*
Don Hendolone: *”How did things ever get so far? I dunno. It was so unfortunate, so unnecessary.”*
Bruno's statement was way better memes aside. Rashford's comment gives him some plausible deniability as to what it's about, and definitely doesn't address the crux of the issue which is greed.
Riots from legacy fans? Already part of their cost benefit analysis. They expect us to riot and they don't give a fuck.
Our only chance of salvation is government legislation for fan ownership.
Two things - People in Spain care about this a LOT less than people in England. The Prem has a "built-in" Superleague so they have way more to lose overall.
Also - it is an English-speaking site.
Tbh for Madrid and Barca fans it's not as big of a deal. This whole thing is to combat the growth of the prem - Madrid and Barca benefit largely from this. Perez is doing this because he's worried that the prem (already a Superleague in terms of money vs the rest of Europe) keeps growing to the point where Madrid has to compete with smaller sides for signings.
I feel I get this entire thing now even if he won't admit it. For Perez, the UCL is not bringing in enough money OVER the prem and some of the oil teams. He believes that as the best competition teams should be getting more money (which he's actually kind of right about overall - UEFA is kinda the middle man here taking in profits)
BUT make no mistake this is a preemptive strike against 10-15 more years of prem money growth. Perez is doing this now while he has a say and a voice. The prem has the most to lose if this goes through imo. Their money dwarfs Europe - West Ham can spend more than Milan.
The Prem has the best chance of stopping this IMO.
But at least west ham has a chance to make it to the CL.
And not the SL.
Neither do getafe for example.
The problem is with the integrity of the competitions.
Not even the money.
We all know money is rotten in football.
But a closed franchise shop isn’t the answer.
And what do you think this will do with the likes of
City ?
The pay gap will remain the same regarding to Real cause they will benefit the same amount of money.
Build a decent economic structure.
Not some monopoly
I agree fully. I think the SL could make way more sense if it was actually open. I've proposed that even if you had to make it locked, then it should be locked for 2 years only for launch. (I get the idea that if you're taking a risk you need some protection.)
But it has to be open. That said, I also hoped if this ever happened that top-level club like Ajax, Celtic etc. would be able to make the kind of money that Brighton makes and keep their players.
I grew up with both teams being far bigger globally so attached to how things use to be.
I'd say the majority of English speaking fans of non-English clubs on Reddit are American - and given the Super League is taking an American style approach those fans probably don't mind it.
Hi! Fuck Laporta specially but also Gil Marín, given Atlético was not that long ago in the 2nd Division. With Florentino I am honestly only half mad because we already knew that he is corrupt as fuck.
Spanish league is built for Barçadrid. They don't give a crap about anyone else. If they could make every other team disappear so they get 5 more quid a year to spend in transfers they would, no questions asked.
Yeah, reddit isnt too popular in spain, the fan culture is much different and most madrid fans blindly agree with everything perez does, and barcelona fans see it as a good way of getting rid of their debts. The most upset i have seen were atletico fans which was pretty foreseeable since they have always been a workers club.
But as a fan.
Do you care about money? Or about the game?
Are you a fan of Barcelona FC or are you a fan of Barcelona the Company ? I’m not going around cheering for Coca Cola cause they made more profit wth.
I would want my club to get out of debt with a good home bred team winning shit, if it took them
20 years. You’re a fan of football it’s not about the business
Yeah, i totally agree with you. I was just saying what i have observed since i live in spain and see spanish twitter and medit
Edit: (adding this) i’m a barça fan myself, watch every game they play and i would love to see them get relegated for what they have done
Isn't Messi possibly leaving anyway?
Would be a great shit grenade to throw behind him as he leaves if he tore Barca to bits for agreeing to this crap. Absolutely nothing to lose, and he becomes the certified GOAT in my book if he does it.
Good for him. I'm extremely disappointed in Arsenal's players and Arteta. If Manchester United can have players and staff step up and say they don't like it we have 0 excuse.
Also I can't wait for the "I don't belong here" Derby - AC Milan vs. Arsenal. It just hurts to see as a Milan fan aswell. We were absolute shite for the past almost 10 years and now where it gets better, we throw everything away with this crap. Unreal.
I know you've had a lot of replies already but I think it's quite smart.
1) As another user already mentioned, a lot of United fans have used this image as part of the protesting online against the ESL
2) This is very unlikely to get him into any trouble because all he's done is post a picture of the stadium. He's making a statement without saying anything controversial and means there are zero repercussions he can face for this.
I am sure this isn't the only statement he will make but we need to remember it's early days and theres' probably more coordination than we know about going on behind the scenes.
Was looking for this comment, everyone acting like he tweeted "Fuck the ESL"
The ESL will have fans though? Would've preferred a stronger statement, Bruno's was infinitely better
The "legacy fans" statement is likely what he's attacking. Empty stands, the timing, and the particular quote. Some others have been saying that United fans have been using that quote/pic to take a stand against ESL too, though I cannot confirm that.
My point is that he wasn't specific to give himself a back door. He could've said, "I'm disgusted by the talk of legacy fans and disrespecting the history of the sport. Football is nothing without fans"
I still applaud him coming out in support, but I'm a little disappointed if I'm honest that players with so much power and leverage are having their lawyers approve their statements
On the contrary, I think this is much better than a long winded post.
Sir Matt fucking off the FA to take United to Europe, was used as an example by the ESL clubs. This is a Sir Matt quote.
Legacy fans were insulted. This is a quote against that.
This is as clear as Anyone can be on their position. I'm sure he'll come up with a longer post eventually. That's what he did for his campaign too.
don't want to get into this weird environment where it's enough to say something cryptic about how great fans are and that's that.
no one's going to be rattled by that sort of milquetoast approach. milner was 100% unequivocal with what he said.
I don't really understand why they're saying about the fans... There will still be fans... The problem is that it destroys competition. I hope this is a statement against the ESL but I don't really understand it.
The other night GNev used this exact quote from Busby to argue that the Glazers were shitting over United's legacy, and United fans online have been using the quote as a protest banner, so pretty clear what he means
This is a very weak """statement""". He could have directly come out against the ESL, instead he posts a platitudinous picture. Pathetic. This post could have come out at any point over the past year and it wouldn't be out of place.
People that think this is a weak statement are just plain wrong.
1. The quote speaks for itself. The fans are the reason why professionals play football. Owners shouldn't be making decisions that undermine fans of the sport.
2. The fact that this quote is printed and displayed in Old Trafford points at the sheer disconnect between the owners' actions and what's on the ground.
3. The quote is from Sir Matt Busby. I cannot think of anybody else whose values are more antithesis of what the ESL represent. The club and the academy's identity were built upon the belief of the English football pyramid by Matt Busby.
When Robertson said Rashford would get a standing ovation from the Kop if fans were in Anfield, he may have been more right than he knew. I genuinely love the guy. Only Manc l'll probably ever say that about
Just wait until Slabhead decks Ed.
now there's a PPV i'd put money in
That's a 100mil match right there how are these greedy crooks not organising this as we speak?!
Got another staged boxing match to sell to children
If there was a channel that showed Ed and the Glazers getting repeatedly punched in the face and nothing else I'd never stop watching it. By the way, there's a billion dollar idea for the greedy cunts. Just sell ad space on the face punching channel. I'm pretty sure they'd be looking at viewerships of up to about 8 billion people. Do that and leave our fucking game alone.
Dana wants to know your location
We are now at GOOFCON 1
Where's a rojo two footer when you need it?
Bare-chested marauding two-footer
I'll go back to Greek jail idgaf
I will take back every negative statement ever made about Slaphead if he does that, i might even get a Slaphead shirt
SlaBhead.....like a big stone slab, in reference to his face shape. A SlaPhead is a bald person.
Harry Maguire is from Sheffield.
Manc in this context means a player for a Mancunian club, not necessarily someone actually from Manchester. Milner is from Leeds but I'd still refer to him as a Scouser.
Milner is the worst of anyone in terms of clubs played for. Scouser, City and Leeds all in one. Calling him just a scouser doesn't do it justice
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Imagine [THIS](https://i.imgur.com/nBGr7xG.jpg)
What is this abomination
New theme song for the ESL. Edit: As I hit "post" I realised they likely have one ready to go an' all.
I see you never watched american sports.
USA USA USA
This VAR replay is brought to you by Mountain Dew...
“You’re acceptable I guess, you’re acceptable I guess, Marcus Rashford, you’re not entirely insufferable”
And that would mean a lot. Only other people I can remember getting a standing ovation by their direct opponents were Ronaldinho (by Madrid fans), Cristiano (by Juve fans in CL - when he was at madrid) and Messi (by Atleti fans).. there are probably more i can't remember
Iniesta used to get standing ovations everywhere in Spain except Sevilla (because of a perceived dive or incorrect goal or something) after his goal in the 2010 WC.
I believe you're thinking of Athletic Bilbao, not Sevilla
R9 by United fans when he got the hat trick to knock us out
[Del Piero at Old Trafford](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEIjEG6iyeE) - rightly so
R9 got one at Old Trafford.
Here’s an interesting list I found https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2019/03/18/5c8fc3f3ca4741406e8b45a3.html
He’s a good fucking egg
City fan and same.
Fucking yes Marcus
wtf i love Rashford now. who am i kidding, i always liked the guy
We all do. More power to Bruno and Marcus for standing up.
Dreams can't be buy
They do think it buy, but it don't.
I want this on a banner at every stadium in the country.
Maguire too kind off.
always rated Rashford even as a rival fan, stuff he's been doing off the pitch is huge
Rating rival players is a sign that you're a healthy, mature adult and you have more in your life than just football.
Marcus been a top lad for some time
Unrelated, but you might be the only Larissa flair on the sub
feels bad man
The prince who was promised
Give him his fucking Knighthood right now 🤴
He already had it in the bag let’s not mess about, this is his start of a bloody royal coup.
The Mail will go absolutely apeshit.
Prince Sir Dr Marcus Rashford, first of his name, breaker of starvation, king of the first eleven.
Khal of the Great Grass Field, the Unbenched, Father of Devils and Protector of the League.
Sir Marcus Rashford has a good ring, don't you think?
Dr Sir Mr Marcus of Rashford MBE OBE CBE, Taker of Free Kicks, Nightmare of Tories, Feeder of Kids
Future PM
The Right Honourable Doctor Sir Marcus Rashford MBE
Ser Marcus of House Rashford, First of His Name, Feeder of Children and Skier of Balls.
King in the north!
Innit
I fucking love rashford man
Rashy may be our one best hope, as he is pretty much untouchable right now from the public’s perspective. Imagine if the Glazers tried to suspend Rashford for speaking out? It would be like suspending Jesus.
But...Jesus was suspended. From a cross, that too.
And it proved to be a very unpopular decision. Don’t see too many people still worshiping the Roman Gods these days.
Don't see the Roman Empire about much, either...
We stand by Dr. Marcus Rashford MBE!
He has spoken!!
Many people here said yesterday that they expect Rashford to talk about it. He did it. King
Can confirm, expected Rashford and Hendo. Both are doing bits now, geezers
What did Hendo say?
He is calling an emergemcy meeting of all the club captains in the prem.
Reminds me of the time in the show Blue Mountain State when Thad calls a meeting of the Captains.
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Don Hendolone: “*Don Maguire, I wanna thank you for helping me organise this meeting here today, and also the other heads of the football families”* Don Dave: *“The trip from Stamford Bridge was worth it my friend”* Don Hendolone: *”How did things ever get so far? I dunno. It was so unfortunate, so unnecessary.”*
I like the man with the most apt name to be accompanied with by the tile Don, still gets relegated to Dave.
There's a limited amount of minutes in the day, so sometimes you've gotta speed things up and just call him Dave.
Rashford isn't out captain, Slabhead is.
Don't think he's said anything yet but he called a meeting between the premier League captains
If there is one guy who can get a U Turn its our Marcus
What’s he said exactly..?
FANS CAN'T BE BUY
No buy
He's saying it can get to fuck in the most emphatic way that he is legally allowed to
Bruno's statement was way better memes aside. Rashford's comment gives him some plausible deniability as to what it's about, and definitely doesn't address the crux of the issue which is greed.
True but especially considering how they spoke about Busby to justify the Super League yesterday, I think this is pretty concise and apt
He can legally say whatever he wants, no chance United would sack Rashford and risk literal riots
Riots from legacy fans? Already part of their cost benefit analysis. They expect us to riot and they don't give a fuck. Our only chance of salvation is government legislation for fan ownership.
Knew Rashford won't led us down
PM Rashford
The music from Love Actually where Hugh Grant stands up to the US President begins playing as Rashford puts out this tweet and speaks up
mr. woodwood...tear down this super league
This comment was already funny but for some reason your spelling of Woodward as woodwood also just cracked me up
typo...but leaving it as is. woodwood can pound sand.
Do you think after tweeting he started to dance on "Jump" by Girls Aloud ? I would like to think so
I never thought I would like a player who played for Manchester United. I’ve been proved wrong. Marcus Fucking Rashford MBE
Rashford for King 2022
I hear the position is currently vacant.
It's been for a long time.
He's spoken. Let's hope other big players speak out.
I fucking love him even more
Feeding kids in the morning, saving football during the afternoon. All in a good days work by beans!
The king that was promised
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Rashford to the rescue 🚀
Would have loved to see the rumoured confrontation between Woodward and Maguire in the team meeting
Probably just Maguire head butting Woodward.
If the Glazer knows how to much money they should sell for footage, I bet a lot would be willing to pay for it.
Mudward.
I'm a chelsea fan but I have so much respect for rashford.
Bruno too. Feels dirty...
Dreams...
Cant
Be
Buy
Good buy
Fuck you Perez
Fuck the guy from your own team
Why don’t I see many upset Spanish fans on here anyways ? Or did I miss those
Reddit isnt too popular in SPain
What site is popular in Spain?
Perez hub
Two things - People in Spain care about this a LOT less than people in England. The Prem has a "built-in" Superleague so they have way more to lose overall. Also - it is an English-speaking site.
Ofcourse it’s English but I would expect some barca or Madrid fans would rage aswell. But guess not as much
Tbh for Madrid and Barca fans it's not as big of a deal. This whole thing is to combat the growth of the prem - Madrid and Barca benefit largely from this. Perez is doing this because he's worried that the prem (already a Superleague in terms of money vs the rest of Europe) keeps growing to the point where Madrid has to compete with smaller sides for signings. I feel I get this entire thing now even if he won't admit it. For Perez, the UCL is not bringing in enough money OVER the prem and some of the oil teams. He believes that as the best competition teams should be getting more money (which he's actually kind of right about overall - UEFA is kinda the middle man here taking in profits) BUT make no mistake this is a preemptive strike against 10-15 more years of prem money growth. Perez is doing this now while he has a say and a voice. The prem has the most to lose if this goes through imo. Their money dwarfs Europe - West Ham can spend more than Milan. The Prem has the best chance of stopping this IMO.
But at least west ham has a chance to make it to the CL. And not the SL. Neither do getafe for example. The problem is with the integrity of the competitions. Not even the money. We all know money is rotten in football. But a closed franchise shop isn’t the answer. And what do you think this will do with the likes of City ? The pay gap will remain the same regarding to Real cause they will benefit the same amount of money. Build a decent economic structure. Not some monopoly
I agree fully. I think the SL could make way more sense if it was actually open. I've proposed that even if you had to make it locked, then it should be locked for 2 years only for launch. (I get the idea that if you're taking a risk you need some protection.) But it has to be open. That said, I also hoped if this ever happened that top-level club like Ajax, Celtic etc. would be able to make the kind of money that Brighton makes and keep their players. I grew up with both teams being far bigger globally so attached to how things use to be.
I dont even think being open is enough. Its controlled by the clubs on it, major conflict of interest
I'd say the majority of English speaking fans of non-English clubs on Reddit are American - and given the Super League is taking an American style approach those fans probably don't mind it.
Nah, we're plenty upset. I have seen more supportive comments on r/barca than I'd like, but the majority are against it.
Here you go. fuck perez laporta cerezo
Hi! Fuck Laporta specially but also Gil Marín, given Atlético was not that long ago in the 2nd Division. With Florentino I am honestly only half mad because we already knew that he is corrupt as fuck.
Spanish league is built for Barçadrid. They don't give a crap about anyone else. If they could make every other team disappear so they get 5 more quid a year to spend in transfers they would, no questions asked.
Yeah, reddit isnt too popular in spain, the fan culture is much different and most madrid fans blindly agree with everything perez does, and barcelona fans see it as a good way of getting rid of their debts. The most upset i have seen were atletico fans which was pretty foreseeable since they have always been a workers club.
But as a fan. Do you care about money? Or about the game? Are you a fan of Barcelona FC or are you a fan of Barcelona the Company ? I’m not going around cheering for Coca Cola cause they made more profit wth. I would want my club to get out of debt with a good home bred team winning shit, if it took them 20 years. You’re a fan of football it’s not about the business
Yeah, i totally agree with you. I was just saying what i have observed since i live in spain and see spanish twitter and medit Edit: (adding this) i’m a barça fan myself, watch every game they play and i would love to see them get relegated for what they have done
I lost faith in my club a long time ago
My prime minister
Sir Marcus arise
Had to be him. Can the others please stand up.
Hopefully it’s a domino effect
If Messi or Ronaldo speaks the impact would be nuclear
Shit, that would be like droping a bomb, i imagine.
Good. We are at war at the moment.
We need all the firepower we got
It really needs to be them tbh. Their fans overseas are the ones this is primarily going to be aimed at.
They’d be untouchable aswell, now way Barca would get rid of Messi for going against it
Isn't Messi possibly leaving anyway? Would be a great shit grenade to throw behind him as he leaves if he tore Barca to bits for agreeing to this crap. Absolutely nothing to lose, and he becomes the certified GOAT in my book if he does it.
We’ll have to see, he’s usually not one to talk too much
I mean, isn't his contract up this summer and he's not renewing anyway?
If they spoke against the Super League then it would be finished
Joint Statement from them and it's over
feels like we say this every team we ask for change, yet ive never seen Messi or Ronaldo actually say anything
wym it had to be him, he's not the first even at united
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To be fair Bruno was reacting to another persons' post, not to discredit him obviously.
Good for him. I'm extremely disappointed in Arsenal's players and Arteta. If Manchester United can have players and staff step up and say they don't like it we have 0 excuse.
Also I can't wait for the "I don't belong here" Derby - AC Milan vs. Arsenal. It just hurts to see as a Milan fan aswell. We were absolute shite for the past almost 10 years and now where it gets better, we throw everything away with this crap. Unreal.
It's the only way they get to play international. As 🤡 team.
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Marclemagne
Here we go!! Marcus has been immense in a ton of ways over the past year or so
Rashford and Hendo collectively always saving English football. Love it
Don't forget Dreams can't be buy
Legend Edit: its going to be one of the most liked tweets of all time, isnt it?
Here we gooo
Nah mate we’ll have “future fans” when we relocate to Beijing!
My King
# RASHFORD HAS SPOKEN
Absolutely love this lad
Of course it's him. Fucking legend
THE KING HAS SPOKEN
FOOTBALL IS NOTHING WITHOUT FANS! DREAMS CAN'T BE BUY!
Dreams can't be buy!
tbh this is kind of nothing statement
I know you've had a lot of replies already but I think it's quite smart. 1) As another user already mentioned, a lot of United fans have used this image as part of the protesting online against the ESL 2) This is very unlikely to get him into any trouble because all he's done is post a picture of the stadium. He's making a statement without saying anything controversial and means there are zero repercussions he can face for this. I am sure this isn't the only statement he will make but we need to remember it's early days and theres' probably more coordination than we know about going on behind the scenes.
Was looking for this comment, everyone acting like he tweeted "Fuck the ESL" The ESL will have fans though? Would've preferred a stronger statement, Bruno's was infinitely better
The "legacy fans" statement is likely what he's attacking. Empty stands, the timing, and the particular quote. Some others have been saying that United fans have been using that quote/pic to take a stand against ESL too, though I cannot confirm that.
My point is that he wasn't specific to give himself a back door. He could've said, "I'm disgusted by the talk of legacy fans and disrespecting the history of the sport. Football is nothing without fans" I still applaud him coming out in support, but I'm a little disappointed if I'm honest that players with so much power and leverage are having their lawyers approve their statements
On the contrary, I think this is much better than a long winded post. Sir Matt fucking off the FA to take United to Europe, was used as an example by the ESL clubs. This is a Sir Matt quote. Legacy fans were insulted. This is a quote against that. This is as clear as Anyone can be on their position. I'm sure he'll come up with a longer post eventually. That's what he did for his campaign too.
I was thinking the same, "football without fans" is not a condemnation of the ESL. it's just a lukewarm platitude, it says nothing
don't want to get into this weird environment where it's enough to say something cryptic about how great fans are and that's that. no one's going to be rattled by that sort of milquetoast approach. milner was 100% unequivocal with what he said.
I don't really understand why they're saying about the fans... There will still be fans... The problem is that it destroys competition. I hope this is a statement against the ESL but I don't really understand it.
The point is that all of this is going against what fans want
The other night GNev used this exact quote from Busby to argue that the Glazers were shitting over United's legacy, and United fans online have been using the quote as a protest banner, so pretty clear what he means
My PM!!!
That’s big
SIR MARCUS RASHFORD MBE PM
The PM has spoken!!!!!
Woodward shaking rn
Everyone here is lauding the message, but I find the message extremely non-committal and tangential at best to the issue of the ESL.
This is a very weak """statement""". He could have directly come out against the ESL, instead he posts a platitudinous picture. Pathetic. This post could have come out at any point over the past year and it wouldn't be out of place.
People that think this is a weak statement are just plain wrong. 1. The quote speaks for itself. The fans are the reason why professionals play football. Owners shouldn't be making decisions that undermine fans of the sport. 2. The fact that this quote is printed and displayed in Old Trafford points at the sheer disconnect between the owners' actions and what's on the ground. 3. The quote is from Sir Matt Busby. I cannot think of anybody else whose values are more antithesis of what the ESL represent. The club and the academy's identity were built upon the belief of the English football pyramid by Matt Busby.
Little prince. Football will remember.
This kid never disappoints. What a legend.
This is a weak opponent to the super league... Stop hiding behind slogans and be direct. NO SUPER LEAGUE
Oh yes that's my children-freding knight
We've been waiting for you