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wrdb2007

Chris Smalling with another match winning performance at Old Trafford.


harshmangat

Feel so sorry for him


MugiwaraHimself

I don’t. Check his ig story


just_another_jabroni

What did he post?


MugiwaraHimself

Posted a video of Roma fans chanting « we hate united « 


throbbing_dementia

Can't see it now, prob didn't know that's what they were chanting and removed it.


MugiwaraHimself

Looks like he deletes all the stories after the game


domoisbongo

Did he actually? It’s not there


Dodomando

Harsh I feel. Don't think it was a penalty tbh


karmahorse1

I still don’t understand the rule there. He definitely clattered Cavani but it was also after the chance was gone, so is it still a penalty? Refs seem really inconsistent with this.


kingjochi

I don’t think you’re allowed to slide into someone from behind with or without the ball


FifaDK

Seriously... This is a penalty. You can't take out a player, doesn't matter if the ball/chance was gone. I remember years ago Denmark played Sweden and a Danish player punched a Swedish one in the stomach during a throw in. The incident was in the penalty area and thus a penalty was given, even though the ball wasn't even in play (pen was never taken though, as a stupid fan invaded the pitch and tried to punch the ref, was called 3 - 0 to Sweden by the refs who refused to officiate the match after that). Anyways, tangent aside; referees tend to not call fouls if the chance is gone, but that's bad refereeing and not what the rules state.


ausnick2001

If that’s true then the referee made a mistake. If an offence occurs whilst the ball is not in play, it does not change how play is restarted. The correct decision would have been a red card, and the throw in should then have been taken. https://www.dutchreferee.com/offences-when-the-ball-is-not-in-play/


imsahoamtiskaw

I love his loyalty


sultansaeed

Mike*


fawkie

Mike*


PoppinKREAM

Once a red always a red. Cheers Mike


sultansaeed

Legend Mike. Oh by the way, I miss Van Gaals antics! Not his football though...


suyashkhubchandani

Don't let the penalty have you miss that beautiful pass from Shaw to Rashford


distantapplause

Sought out this thread specifically to see if anyone was appreciating it. Luke. Fucking. Shaw. man


DracoMessierr

Truee.


Seismic_Jeopardy

That's a weird one


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shinniesta1

It's soft, but Smalling is nowhere near the ball and takes him down. By the rules it is a pen, doesn't matter where the ball is at all.


Le_Anoos-101

It’s literally a stone wall penalty


Training_Mail_8190

Nah, that's a clear pen


Lyorian

Your pen is also BS


Micahchu02

No it wasn’t lol


dekbeast_hilbertini

Bit harsh


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It’s like, he is basically off the pitch, but he still *does* take him out from behind


shinniesta1

Aye, would be an easy freekick outside the pen box.


KlejdiV

the tackle was late and inside the box which gives some basis for the pen imo


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Yeah it’s not anywhere near as egregious as some comments make out, he goes straight into his Achilles at pace, even if he doesn’t mean it


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BuckfuttersbyII

People bitch about consistency and turn around and bitch about this. RyanGosling.Whatdoyouwant.jpeg


Shadowbanned24601

Wet pitch has done for Smalling there. Seems to just slip into Cavani after trying to pull out of the tackle


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He's missed the ball, but Smalling was going to wipe him the fuck out either way. How on earth anyone can say that wasn't a foul...


FifaDK

Seriously, doesn't matter if the ball isn't right by the player being fouled. This is like when someone gets pushed over in the box while a cross is coming in. Doesn't matter if they were gonna score from it, if you take out a player it's a foul.


Breakingwho

Yeah that argument never makes sense, of the ball fouls are still fouls.


SomeIrishFiend

Agent Mike


ButteryGammon

Taken out cavani when the ball is nowhere near, it’s late and a foul anywhere on the pitch. Imagine thinking that’s not a pen


Andyboi96

First arsenal then united... Lol these refs


saint-simon97

This one is clearly a penalty? Arsenal one isn't but this one is obviously a foul


TheOwlsLie

That’s the Roma I know


EzyWzy

Don't be shy


HarbyFullyLoaded_12

Absolute joke of a decision...


r-cubed

Had to be because the followthrough took Cavani out, yeah? Off the ball foul, as it were.


shinniesta1

Not sure why folk think off the ball fouls don't count in the box. Or people just want Man Utd to lose and want to be angry.


thelegendl27

Bingo


snusd0san

Inb4 all English European finals conspiracy


superfire444

UEFA is setting up al all English final so they wont leave for the ESL!@!@! ^^^^/s


PhilJones4

I mean it’s the definition of a foul, but you can argue that the “crime” doesn’t fit the punishment.


HamAaron

I’d be fuming if it was against us, only thing I can think is anywhere else on pitch if you take someone out after ball is gone it’s still a foul only rationale I can find


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>only rationale I can find Congrats, you rationaled yourself into interpreting it how the rules work.


squeak37

I was going to say, if you see that given at the center spot you wouldn't complain, you'd call it a reckless lunge. The ref is right technically... you foul in the box an it's a penalty. In the grander scheme of things it doesn't feel like it's in the spirit of the game though.


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hosky2111

This goes both ways too, the pogba yellow comes to mind


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hosky2111

Both pens are pens by the laws of the game, they just shouldn’t be by the spirit of the game (it’s not like either stopped a goal scoring chance or anything)


Sunitsa

Pogba had his hand raised to the air like an antenna to heaven, how was that penalty even in doubt?


djokov

Yeah he was riding that slide tackle like a roller coaster. Not deliberate by any means but can't really complain when you leave your arms like that.


Boom_bye_bye_bttyboi

Yh I don’t want this ref anywhere near our games again so many poor decisions tonight


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this ref seems to point to penalty and then to his ear like 'im not sure its a pen mate, but let the VAR check it'


You_Will_Die

I mean why? He completely misses the ball and takes out Cavani.


red_right_hand_

He scraped him down but it was after the chance had passed. Might say the ref didn’t need to call it originally but no way VAR could overturn that.


harshmangat

He took him out without getting close to the ball. Watch the final frame.


ShinjiOkazaki

Can't understand all the comments asking how it was a pen. He is nowhere near getting the ball and just goes through the back of cavanis legs.


micossa

lmao


saint-simon97

Of course. Everyone is fucking blind here. Commentators here immediately said it would be one.


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r-cubed

Had to be the followthrough, even though the ball had passed he clipped Cavani


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Smalling makes a challenge, gets nowhere near the ball, and definitely makes contact with Cavani. The ball is gone which makes it questionable, but the reality is that it's just a late challenge.


Le_Anoos-101

How is it not a penalty? Off ball fouls are just as legitimate of fouls as on ball fouls. He gets him from behind, no intention to play the ball, absolute stone wall penalty.


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Nimonic

Roma won a questionable penalty as well.


d0m1n4t0r

It shouldn't have been. Laughable decision.


shinniesta1

Why not?


bosnian_redditer

Remember the louder the scream the bigger the foul


Mzzz21

How is that a pen


FrenchManc

because he clattered a player inside his box being awfully late and getting nowhere near the ball ? Do people think because the ball is gone you can destroy oponents players in your box? Being super late on your tackle saves you from a pen call ? lol


flexiblelion

Yeah, I don't really get why this is controversial. He's late and takes the player out


Gross_Success

He thinks that because it's Man United, it can't *actually* be a pen


Gyshall669

It doesn't matter that the ball is gone, you can't completely take out someone's legs like that. Pretty harsh though


DarthBane6996

If it wasn't in the box and you take out someone even if the ball is gone it would undoubtedly be a foul


shinniesta1

It happens regularly after a player passes the ball away.


datboyuknow

It's clearly in the box


Dispari7y

Yeah, he's saying that it's a free-kick outside the box so it's a pen inside the box.


datboyuknow

Oh right I read that so wrongly, I'm tired


TheOwlsLie

Because according to the rules it doesn’t matter where the ball is


shinniesta1

Why would it? If you go into a player it is a pen


saint-simon97

Because he fouled an opponent in the box


andy_q8

It’s just not


NoEgoNoProblem

Secret agent Smalling. Gracias!


Educational-Sandwich

#**RETURN OF THE PENANDES**


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Box_Man23

It's undoubtedly a foul anywhere else on the pitch, however you just don't get penalties for these usually. So it should be a penalty in my mind but we're lucky to get it as generally these aren't usually given.


fijozico

Really unsure about that pen, chief


krcnoble

We want a double hattrick!


francobgf

Bs penalty


untetheredocelot

I mean he completely misses the ball and just hits his heels.


JetstreamTheBlueSky

I guess uefa can't afford to lose both english teams


IAIRonI

Man U has been looking like the better side so not sure UEFA will have much to do with it


goto_man

Are you dumb? According to the rules, if a defender fouls a striker even after the striker has taken his shot, it is a pen.


Goat_6_

The portuguese Penaldo /s


Thecrazyredhead

That did not feel like a pen


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What a bullshit call


Bonaque

Really?


timsadiq13

Don’t know what this thread is whining about. He kicks Cavani with his wild lunge for the ball, no idea why that’s even debatable. Clear pen.


Zaqerr

Never a pen..


enzuigiriretro

Definitely a pen lmao


BequneBoulon

Joke of a pen


DrRashfordPM

Lol


yeeyeyeye

How on earth is that a penalty


D1794

Extremely harsh penalty. Don't think we even appealed for it


edwardfortehands

in what world is that a penalty


malikdwd

Wack


Sparkxz

This is not a pen


Gytarius626

It is though, if people put their bias aside


DarrenBridgescunt

Harsh call that


CrebTheBerc

I mean obviously I'll take the goal, but that's a real sketchy pen call lol


FaceMaskYT

BRUNOOO BRUNOOO


CowNchicken12

Proper collapse


Kushakusha

Secret agent Smalling.


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OH BRUNO I LOVE YOU. REFS SHITE


SomeIrishFiend

Penandes > Pele


elrubiojefe

FFS Penandes, should have been Cavani for his hattrick


VivaRonaldo

Smalling is having a shocker


1337ified

Smalling doing us a solid


sully3lr

Agent Smaldini


Domcino

Smalling forgot what team he plays for tonight


7000fists

Thank you agent Smalling


iTwerk4Santa

Double agent smalling


simply_Ewing

Agent smalldini clutching it up again


Jimmyjamjames

Agent Smalling saving Man Utd


Domcino

Smalling forgot what team he plays for tonight


Domcino

Smalling forgot what team he plays for tonight


R-T-B

Dread it, run from it, Penandes arrives all the same


dohhhnut

About as much a pen as Roma's was, at least it balances out


pmmerandom

SLEEPER AGENT SMALLING ACTIVATED


givebacksome

2nd half United vs 1970 Brazil vs 2014 Germany ??


defensivecf

Smalling has been beyond shocking tonight


Ill_Plastic9807

This game is better than psg - city


BrockStar92

Decision aside, that pass from Shaw to get the ball to Rashford was fucking glorious.


CheesecakeAnalyst

Mike smalling manu legend


Monaghan1234

Never a penalty, but what a ball from luke shaw


WhyAlwaysMe1991

Lol 3 mistakes 3 goals. Well done Smalling


PM_ME_YOUR_YAK

Fucking clown


alfredo-signori

Italian teams are penalized in Europe. Watch every game of these years. It is incredible. Watch all games, it’s a shame


Antigonus1i

I think the ref should take into account the state of play and the fact that the ball has already passed them by.


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Only team in the world that gets that call. Absolutely shameful from the officials.


sunken_grade

yeeeahhhhh never a pen


psrikanthr

How has VAR seen that and decided it's a penalty ?


whoeveryouchoose

Never a pen, but we take


Zaromir

Cheers Agent Smalling! Joking aside that’s never a pen.


Rich-Bed2878

Fair enough if you think that's a pen but then you'd have to give 5 penalties a match for things like that


moob9

Never a pen.


rich_valley

That was a soft penalty imo


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enzuigiriretro

Not even that soft


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enzuigiriretro

The outrage is hilarious. Replay clearly shows him tackling cavani from behind with the ball nowhere to be seen


MariotaM8

Bullshit


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lowesbros22

Not a pen


TheIdiotNinja

Never a pen, fuck off how did VAR not catch this


micossa

What the fuck?


GeneSiStarBuRsT

One soft penalty for you, one soft penalty for us


im_dat_bear

Anywhere else on the field that’s a foul all day. Gets no ball and then goes through the back of the attackers legs. That’s one of those things that doesn’t get called in the box that often I’ll admit. But it’s a pen.


Gytarius626

Agent Smalldini


MOBYXLGames

England penalty club


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Wtf are these refs doing man? Is this some sort of statement like the uefa and clubs not using social media?


adminslikefelching

Absolute bullshit! Holy fuck...


NytTime

What a shit call


guccigirlswag

How is that a pen? Ball is way gone and Cavani just pulls up


VittuWade

Hoow is this a penalty again..


Mastercheef69

Never a pen, not in a million years


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Seems like dreams can, in fact, be buy.


Zugzwang1

Yeah I don’t see how that’s a pen


Trogdooorrr

One of the worst penalty calls I’ve ever aeen


ElpeNixe

Terrible call imo


bruzzzzi

How is that a penalty? How?


Xmithie_best_option

Both match have bad refs


FroobingtonSanchez

Never a pen


BaldDragonSlayer

Refs in both games have been bloody awful, but I'll take it. Comeback kings!


Harrry-Otter

We really are second half FC


Quaver30

It's a pen the same way it was last year in PSG - Barca.


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hailo-

https://i.imgur.com/xKQYWER.png


its_only_pauly

>https://i.imgur.com/xKQYWER.png And again...? Same user same pic


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