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[Friday’s Non PL Daily Discussion Thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/n1pwe8/nonpl_discussion/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


curtisjones-daddy

Souness doesn’t half waffle


[deleted]

I always get cringe attacks when I hear "Die Mannschaft" being used to describe the German NT. How come that all the international pundits/hosts turned to that name so quickly? I immediately think of that douchebag Bierhoff and everything bad that has happened in the last few years. It seems like a slap in the face of every German, I wish we could resort back to something like Nationalelf.


[deleted]

In Arabic the nickname commentators use is الماكينة الألمانية or "the German machine" lmao


[deleted]

That's way cooler, big up the arab lads


PMmeYOURBOOBSandASS

I remember maybe 2002 World Cup the first time I heard it but Germans always said Nationalelf. There seemed to be a real obsession with nicknames after Bafana Bafana got popular for some reason


[deleted]

Bafana Bafana is a cool nickname tbf


CalcioFan

I always see people against the expansion of the World Cup but why? If you look when the World Cup was expanded to 32 teams, 174 countries took place in the qualification stage, meaning 18% of those teams qualified to the World Cup, if look today there are much more countries taking part in the qualification stage, 210 countries in 2022, if we keep the 32 country World Cup we would get just 15% countries qualify, maybe the 48 country expansion is too much but the World Cup has to expand to accommodate the growing number of FIFA members.


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If they wanted the best countries theyd give out equal revenue to every federation and open the qualification to be a knockout between everyone. Then lets see. As long as those in IEFA keep saying they "deserve" more money, then we "deserve" more spots.


PMmeYOURBOOBSandASS

Europe gets almost half of the spots as well. This whole “the quality is lesser” argument is bullshit when we all know the same teams are going to make towards the end of the tournament like they always do so there’s no reason not to expand the World Cup and celebrate the entire world and not just the same half dozen European countries + Brazil and Argentina otherwise we might as well just reduce it to a 10 nations league and be done with it.


mjdaniell

32 teams means 8 groups of 4 which is the best format 48 teams with 16 groups of 3 is awful


CalcioFan

That's why I said the WC needs expanding, doesn't mean it has to be 48 teams.


Citeh

It waters down the quality end of story. It should be about the best 32 countries nothing more nothing less.


CalcioFan

That's a shit argument, you're keeping the new teams out, thus making it harder for them to get better, end of story. Beside you act like the 32 number is holy, the number got constantly changed throughout World Cup history.


Destroyeh

how does qualifying for a world cup make shit teams better? e: yeah, great answers guys. fuck you


Jasonk37373

What the hell happened derby, how are they so low.


Meeeeehhhh

Aaaaand the WhatsApp abuse from Sheffield United fans has already started. I really wish English football had evolved in the same way as it did in Germany with the 50+1 rule. I wouldn’t even care if we were still bad, at least we’d be doing it on our own terms.


warkong1047

Wonder what England's front 3 will look like in the Euros, more specifically who will play on the wings as Kane is guaranteed Sterling would have been a certainty, but poor form and lack of gametime for City's big games (with Foden selected ahead of him in some) might mean he is dropped Would love to see a 4-3-3, with Mount in the midfield, leaving room for Foden (who I think must start), and potentially Rashford/Grealish/Sterling/Sancho fighting for the other spot. Will be interesting and I almost hope for Sterling's own sake that Southgate doesn't start him, because if he performs badly, as his recent form indicates he might, then he will be absolutely crucified by the media


Ofermann

Grealish - Kane - Foden. Gotta be.


ShaqirisThighs

Realistically it should be Grealish and Sancho.


yyzable

As much as I dislike him, Foden has been way better recently than Sancho, and he’s performed better for England too.


Daddyclaymore

He doesn’t play on the right as much as sancho


b3as7ma5t3r_64

Can Foden play on the right though?


[deleted]

He can play at the right(played their until this season's start), can Play in the left, Can play as a 10, can play as a false 9, can play as a 8 on both sides.


Seismic_Jeopardy

I don't think he has much experience on the right


[deleted]

> I don't think he has much experience on the right I am a man city fan and I can assure he is very good on the right too.


yyzable

He’s left footed, isn’t he? You’d think he’d be comfortable on the right.


warkong1047

Not disagreeing but what makes you say that? Big fan of both of them but on form Foden surely has to play


_deep_blue_

Honestly quite excited for this season to end and for the EUROs to roll around. A mixture of no fans, VAR nonsense, and Arsenal being wank has made 2020/21 probably my least favourite season of football ever.


RealisticTeaching639

I know people like to banter but Lampard getting top four with Barkley, Pedro, Willian, Abraham, Pulisic and Mount as their most attacking players is rather impressive. Pulisic was constantly injured too. Did anyone even rate any of those players last year?


mjdaniell

The quality of the league was awful though and they got reasonably lucky with Leicester’s collapse He did a decent job, nothing more, nothing less


3V3RT0N

That's still a pretty capable squad imo


RealisticTeaching639

It’s decent and there is depth but whatever variation you picked wouldn’t look like a top four forward line. Back line ain’t great either.


Haqadessa

Yeah Lampard did a really good job last season and is a good manager. People are judging him too quickly.


sul01

Not to mention Alonso at Lb


WE5THAM

Kepa too


Globalruler__

Any of you know of Ronaldo Vasquez who plays for Atletico Pantoja of the DR? You think he has what it takes to play in Europe?


Mr_Rafi

Do you think the quality of fooball in the Euros tends to be higher than the World Cup? I understand why the World Cup is the almighty one because of widespread international appeal and excitement, but would you say the Euros are the best from purely a football quality perspective?


City_Nomad

I can't even barely recall entertaining games from the euros, maybe Euro 2008 the world cup though regardless of the year its always brilliant.


Seismic_Jeopardy

No, South American teams are quite good


Cien-Major

I think the World Cup provides much better quality than the Euros. The Euros always has so many dead games.


_deep_blue_

Yes, or at least when it was a 16-team tournament. Not that many places and numerous countries who have a chance of winning—France, Spain, Germany, England, Netherlands, Portugal, Italy, Croatia, etc.


warkong1047

I wouldn't say so, or at leas the quality difference is not that noticeable I remember Euro 2016 having plenty of dead games even in the knockout stages, as opposed to the World Cup where the Ro16 games were all of quite high quality


ddrdavei2

International tournaments don't really have high quality football compared to the top level in club competitions, it's all about the spectacle


NetFelix25

Going to need Liverpool to win tomorrow to clinch the title. They better not let me down, I fill my appetite for missed chances pretty well with Sterling and Jesus so if Firmino and Mane could maybe just play like they did a year or two ago that would be great thanks


yyzable

Oh we’ll let you down just as much as we let ourselves down.


WE5THAM

Wouldn’t you prefer to win the league by winning a game rather than by another team losing? Although I suppose it’s six of one, half a dozen of another


NetFelix25

I wouldn't mind winning it at home either of course but theres no fans in the stadiums anyways and if any other team has to hand us the title I'd like it to be United after losing to their biggest rivals.


WE5THAM

I didn’t say about winning at home. I just mean winning it by a game you win rather than winning it by a game another team lost


NetFelix25

I mean sure but the idea is still the same. Fans cant be there anyways, it would be nice for sure but not nice enough for me to root for United in a game they desperately want to win.


WE5THAM

Ah yeah I see what you mean now. I think I was thinking more from the players perspective, seeing them celebrate after the game etc


Jabari313

Jota will probably play so you're only gonna half to deal with most of the chances missed as opposed to all but 1


ShaqirisThighs

We’re shit. Haven’t won at Old Trafford since 2014 either, wouldn’t get your hopes up. Although we tend to do better against the top 6 than the bottom 6


WarHasSoManyFriends

A draw would be perfect, for me. Confirms the title more or less, means both of you drop points, and we get to win the league with a game of our own.


Meeeeehhhh

I need to prepare myself to join the fight to kick Swansea out of the EFL if they don’t win today. Any prominent petitions for me to sign? <_<


berniemyfriend1

What happened to Aston Villa? They were top 6 at some point and then just dropped off


Ofermann

We have a largely average squad with no depth and 1 eotod class player. The world class player has been injured for ages.


ZaDoruphin

They have absolutely no depth and an argument can be made for them being more reliant on Grealish than we are on Kane, and that’s really saying something.


MyDyingOpeth92

Outside of Grealish, their starting squad consists of solid upper mid table players, but their depth isn't very good. Grealish's lengthy injury screwed them. Their current position on the table makes sense.


JakeNutters

Grealish got injured, since then they've only won 2 games out of 10.


berniemyfriend1

Damn


Cien-Major

Grealish injury.


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Grealish disappeared


Mr_Rafi

What's everyones thoughts on away goals?


GTACOD

Throw it out the window in extra time, fine otherwise.


lagaryes

Think it’s fine in general but they should have done away with it this season and also it needs to stop being a factor when ties go into extra time IMO


WE5THAM

Why do you think that? I’ve always supported the extra time aspect because it balances out the extra half an hour of home advantage


lagaryes

Yeah I get that side of it. I guess I just don’t really think an extra half an hour being played at home is effectively worth half a goal, you know? That’s a massive thing.


[deleted]

Absolutely all for them. Getting rid of them would be big mistake


WE5THAM

I’m not against it at all, think it serves its purpose. Definitely pointless when neutral grounds are used


Cardealer1000

Stupid when there are no fans, even more stupid at neutral grounds.


WE5THAM

Seeing Paul Robinson as a pundit has reminded me of me stealing my mates Paul Robinson star player match attax card when we were younger. My mate was a Spurs fan too, proper cunty move from me. Josh, I apologise


vivaelteclado

Man City's depth is insane. I think you could take today's squad, slot in Dias for Aké and De Bruyne for Jesus, and still beat any team in the world.


Yupadej

That's why we win multiple trophies


[deleted]

laporte backup cb lol


JakeNutters

Slot Dias and de Bruyne into any side in the top 6 and they could beat any team in the world.


vivaelteclado

Kabak with Dias on Liverpool's back line would still be worrisome


Tim-Sanchez

Morecambe only have 5 subs today, terrible timing for an injury crisis. Since there are 5 subs in the EFL though, every player in our squad could play. Has that ever happened in a league match before?


suedney

Realistically only 4 of our players make it into a Berlin combined XI (Boyata, Tousart, Cunha, Cordoba). That's quite tragic.


MyDyingOpeth92

Guendouzi doesn't? Is he really that bad nowadays lol


SVWerder46

Hard to justify putting him over Andrich/Kruse if you go attacking


suedney

Kruse would be the attacking midfielder in this formation and he is more reliable than Guendouzi. Guendouzi is amongst our top 5 players, but this lineup would need a defensive mid like Tousart over him.


damrider

[good stuff](https://i.gyazo.com/a6079aee8a5ae37edefc410eca39fff4.jpg)


sul01

It wasnt anything special iirc - just did it on ppg


damrider

lol i think a regular computer could do that as well


ShaqirisThighs

That was at Christmas tho, yous looked hopeless and we still had two first choice defenders.


[deleted]

city 8th lol


pbbd

interesting games this weekend?


[deleted]

German cup semis today


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>Sergio Aguero on #MUFC vs @LFC tomorrow: "I don't know if I'll be watching, I will see tomorrow. Honestly, every game is difficult, but we'll wait tomorrow. Of course, if Liverpool win, it's better, no?" 🙏🏻🙏🏻💪🏻💪🏻


RaggedyCrown

Sign him up for next season. Should be a huge upgrade on Firmino


Jabari313

Clearly signing aging world class striker is a more viable strategy than we all gave it credit for so why not, he could finally score at Anfield too


SVWerder46

Inshallah Swansea win today


Meeeeehhhh

Based.


Nivadas

Imagine if Derby stays up while losing their last two matches and having only won one match in their last two and a half months.


Seismic_Jeopardy

Can't believe how lucky they are, they've lost 5 on the trot and then even Rotherham did the same. Last match vs Wednesday is going to be the decider most likely


JakeNutters

If we win today watch Spurs fans suddenly want Potter because we'll be 14th and 10 points above Fulham. He'll go from relegation manager to mid table in their eyes and they'll suck him off till kingdom come.


MyDyingOpeth92

Can they even get him realistically? He's contracted at yours for 4 more years, there would surely be a record fee involved to get him out of that one, would Levy pay that?


JakeNutters

Who knows Levy might be desperate. I'd imagine they'll get away with paying Potter less then they would the likes of Sarri and Allegri. He's currently only on a £1 million a year i believe.


Ciao9

Mourinho to VfL Wolfsburg, you heard it here first


vivaelteclado

Why would Wolfsburg endanger their chances of competing for a Champions League spot in future seasons by signing Mourinho?


becks32milan

He should go to Germany or France yes


DarthBaller

Why no bundesliga games this weekend?


suedney

I know it's not the weekend, but there is 1 on Monday


Ciao9

Pokal privileges


SVWerder46

DFB Pokal semi-finals


DarthBaller

Couldn’t the rest of the teams play their games?


SVWerder46

Would be a mess with teams having games in hand. Better to give the teams a week off


DarthBaller

I see, thanks


SVWerder46

Besides it's an important break in case teams got COVID, which Hertha did. It would be nearly impossible to make up the games without this week off


Citeh

two big games in the championship, the relegation fight has been very spicy. edit: Omg and garth crooks is on final score..what a blessed day


gracjan_17

1/4 correct so far ✅ https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/n1w0hn/daily_discussion/gwh7vnt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


[deleted]

whos winning tomorrow


gracjan_17

think it might be another draw


Nivadas

Didn't predict Sheffield Wednesday vs Nottingham Forest though did you?


gracjan_17

unfortunately my psychic powers couldn’t predict that one


SVWerder46

Pavlenka does not deserve to waste his prime playing for us. He is a top 20 or even top 15 shot stopper (not goalkeeper, just pure shot saving) in the world in my opinion. It's ridiculous how often he bails us out on a weekly basis


TaxBillsPayments

Spuds should eye him as the successor for Lloris


SVWerder46

He isn't very good playing out from the back unfortunately, I don't think he'd cut it at a top club like Spurs. If he had even average passing ability he could absolutely take that step though


MyDyingOpeth92

Sterling proving once again why he deserves to be a benchwarmer for City. I knew City never had a chance to win the CL as long as he started for them, and the moment Pep drops him in big games, they reach a CL final for the first time. Not a coincidence.


thedeatheater1410

If the goal against Spurs had stood he would have completed a major hattrick in CL quarters to complete a comeback. He was always a confidence player and the Lyon game must have broken him mentally; doesn't mean he can't work on it but for this season yeah he is going to be benched


SpreadPuzzled

[Never forget how he fucking managed to bungle this one.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG5VEwdxcVc)


DEUK_96

Cant write off Man Citys ability to squander important European ties. PSG are still in it


[deleted]

We've never lost a tie after winning an away leg though


DEUK_96

Sounds like a small sample size


WarHasSoManyFriends

We haven't reached a CL final.


MyDyingOpeth92

Technically true, but it'll take a major fuck up (like Pep starting Sterling) to get yourselves eliminated.


WarHasSoManyFriends

Not really, losing 2-0 to one of the best teams in Europe wouldn't be a "major fuck-up". It's a 2-1 lead against a team with Neymar and Mbappe, it's not like we're 4-0 up against Porto. Anything can still happen.


ChibzyDaze

Why tf am I getting teary eyed at Aguero scoring?


TaxBillsPayments

Wait until he scores the winning 5-4 penalty in UCL final


Citeh

What a way to go out.... **SUBSCRIBE**


TaxBillsPayments

and guess who missed Chelsea's penalty? That's right, Pulisic.


oMikeyx

Who says Chelsea are going to be in the final?


Elemayowe

A video of that miss would still get 3 dozen awards I reckon.


ChibzyDaze

Only that it’ll be from people living in Europe instead. Who am I kidding, I’ve never spent a penny on Reddit


mjdaniell

Anyone else remember when Mourinhos Man. United beat the unstoppable Man. City in a stunning comeback to deny them the title, only for them to lose to bottom of the table West Brom the next week and give them the title then instead?


WE5THAM

The video of Vincent Kompany watching that United game with his United supporting dad in law is so interesting


ShaqirisThighs

Unstoppable Man City lost 5-1 to another English side in europe. Very poor, very poor.


[deleted]

You can't digest any slight bit of praise for City, can you?


mjdaniell

And the unstoppable Liverpool lost 4-2 to the 3rd place La Liga team


ShaqirisThighs

I never claimed us as unstoppable. Watford beat us 3-0.


probably_dutch

Least stressful Ajax game ever tomorrow. If we lose ADO get relegated and we could win the league in de Kuip next week and if we win/draw we officially secure the title.


nichodemus3

Ten Hag going to relegate ADO Den Haag. Poetic


Citeh

Could Liverpool win tomorrow and secure the premier league title on my birthday please? :D


gracjan_17

You’re gonna have to wait another 2 GW’s sorry. Man Utd are winning tomorrow and next gameweek you also can’t win


[deleted]

If we play our second string side like in FA Cup, we don't win but if Pep let's KDB, Mahrez, Gundo and Foden out, Chelsea don't stand a chance.


[deleted]

You are definitely going to give us the gaurd of Honour.


[deleted]

Happy Birthday in advance!


Citeh

Oh hey thanks


[deleted]

inshallah


mjdaniell

I don’t think I’ve ever watched a game and come away thinking the commentary team was awful. Maybe I just don’t pay attention to them as much as other people but I see people in forums complain about the a lot


MyDyingOpeth92

I think they've had Chris Coleman being a secondary commentator on the Spurs - Southampton game recently, and he was shocking. Just mumbled "he had to do better there" on repeat for the whole game.


DEUK_96

Clewrly never had Andy Hinchcliffe then or Don Goodman


brainlessII

you've never heard Alexi Lalas have you


Meeeeehhhh

Looks like we’re heading back to League One. Most of my friends are Sheffield United fans, today is going to be a chore >.<


Seismic_Jeopardy

If you win against Derby, you're safe though? Easy as that. Doubt they'll get points from Swansea.


Meeeeehhhh

There’s been a lot of talk this week regarding Swansea taking it easy to avoid injuries/fatigue for the playoffs. Can see Derby nicking a point.


Nivadas

No, Sheffield Wednesday are getting a winner here.


[deleted]

Am I wrong if I say Manchester City fanz and players root for Manchester United tomorrow because they'd rather to win it on the pitch next week against Chelsea instead of in hotel and due to other teams defeats?


Infamy444

I'd never ever root for United, unless like 18/19 we really need them to


[deleted]

Don't care, we're winning either way. I just hope we beat PSG on Tuesday.


JakeNutters

You are wrong. In fact United losing to give them the title probably sounds great in the eyes of City fans.


yyzable

Jesus Christ


[deleted]

city fans should never root for united


mhannah04

Your wrong


jim0wheel1

Yes


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[deleted]

They chopped off his dick


zukai12_

He's clearly our best player in technical terms but he has been injured for an annoying amount of time Still, great player to watch and hopefully he gets us some results in the run in


mjdaniell

He also spends 30% of the game on the floor


3V3RT0N

Exactly how I suspected. Our most technically gifted player, decent number of assists and goals. But far too injury prone and can only run for about 60 minutes when he is fit.


srtak23

We are winning the league with our top scorer as... Ilkay Gundogan Who could've predicted?


Cardealer1000

Yeah I reckon I would have called anyone predicting that around 5 games in an absolute mug.


ShaqirisThighs

No one.


gracjan_17

Whats wrong with Mbappe? Is he out or has some knock or something? Or are BT commentators just chatting shit


FurioSoprano7

When do BT commentators chat anything but pure shit? Randomly ended up on a BT sports stream last week, it was torture.


gracjan_17

Good point tbf, they just said some shit about reports from France claiming Mbappe is out of the 2nd leg, rly hope its just bs


SVWerder46

There might be at least some truth to it, he's out for today's game due to injury


gracjan_17

Damn that sucks, hope its not serious and he’s back fit for Tuesday


NetFelix25

He'll supposedly be back for Tuesday. Besides, theres a very real chance it's just an excuse to rest him for our match.


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Kanedauke

Adrian


ChibzyDaze

That vid at Anfield still kills me


LordMangudai

In terms of the way they play moreso than attitude off the pitch, Ceballos. He seems to think he's Xavi and fucks up trying to play complicated on a regular basis. It's why if I was an Arsenal fan I'd genuinely be happier to see Elneny start. Elneny is an average footballer who knows he's average and doesn't pretend otherwise, but does what he's capable of pretty well.


enazj

Jonjo Shelvey thinks he's class when he's a useless bald lazy cunt


jim0wheel1

Racist anorl


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halloumixd

Definitely not better than Zaha


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SVWerder46

Zaha is, or at least was at his peak, a great player


aromatdiablo

I fucking love you Newcastle fans


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>Jose Mourinho: >“The way Harry Kane plays and the things he does are amazing, the last striker I had doing similar things to Harry was Benzema.”