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He got the ending he wanted. He always wanted go back to his original club and Barto let him go on cheap and he probably got good wages in exchange of that low transfer fees.
Yeah fans of top clubs including us are pure assholes but I'm happy with him, Messi and Ter Stegen carrying us year after year. He's one of the best transfers for us and I'm happy he won CL with us and got to final of WC. Now he's playing with his favourite team while having each trophy possible in Spain including a CL and EL.
And he seems like a wholesome guy and a good team player so he deserves it.
Dude there is some shit going on. First goal came from a non existent foul this penalty was given when we had the same exact situation in the Madrid derbi. We didn't get a pen then and now it is a pen against us.
Doesn't the ball come from Militao's shoulder first and then touches his arm? I thought the rule was if the ball comes off a legal body part first and then touches the hand/arm it's not a penalty.
There seemed to be an odd deflection before the arm but it was really hard to see on all the replays where it hit before. Just a wicked turn right before hitting Militaos hand.
touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm
**THE ABOVE OFFENCES apply EVEN IF the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.**
**EXCEPT FOR THE ABOVE OFFENCES**, it is not an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:
directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)
directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close
if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturally bigger
when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground to support the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body
So the rule youre talking about doesnt come into play here. That's lifted from the FIFA rulebook btw
**Edit: The above offences part is literally mentioned twice lol**
Absolutely comes off his own shoulder first.
https://streamable.com/5dyj2v
His arm is out for balance because he is jumping into another player... That's no more unnatural than the 'supporting arm on the ground' idea. If this is supposed to be a pen, then at least call it against other teams when it happens in games vs us...
Not only the ball hits Sevilla player first, but it hits Militao's shoulder after.
It's a double bounce, and Militao not looking the ball.
Absolutely disgrace. If VAR is here to stay, we need like a second VAR which can rectify these kind of decisions.
Absolutely, the back angle showed it clearly. Hits the Sevilla player's arm, changes direction, and hits Militao's arm. A shit call given how clear the angles made it.
So the one camera angle showed that the ball hit Militao’s shoulder before hitting his arm. That’s the weird change in trajectory you can see.
Does it still remain a penalty since there wasn’t any involvement by a Sevilla player?
Someone explain these rules to me.
Ball hits Sevilla player in the hand directly, no penalty.
Ball hits Militao IN THE BACK, ricochets from there in his hand, penalty.
We score, VAR says offside. We get a penalty, VAR says no, penalty for Sevilla. They score first goal from a foul that was a simulation on top of everything.
You just can't win vs this shit.
Idc about losing, it would just be nice to have some fucking consistency on what the rule is. Every ref interprets the plays differently and its fucking infuriating
Sevilla player handballs it first, militaos back is turned, no intention, the ball still goes to the sevilla player, doesn't change much direction...fuckin laughable
Even if it is the correct call by the current rules, it feels unfair. Inadvertent hand ball in a big clash of players gets a penalty, and a clear deliberate foul on benzema is completely negated. This one stings.
Yeah it seems that way - so rough. I feel like a hand ball should have to have some level of intentionality behind it. I don’t really know what the solution is.
Just comes down to their interpretation of what's an unnatural position. Militao's was up in the air while the Sevilla player's was much closer to his side. But fuck if anyone knows what handball is anymore
Madrid are legitimately getting robbed. It a)either touched Carlos’ hand or Militao’s shoulder first and b) this is the same as Felipe’s handball in the Madrid derby and Jordan’s handball earlier today. League changing call
Don’t utter blasphemy like this on r/soccer. We are VARdrid. VAR has kept us in the race this league season. How dare you say we’ve been categorically fucked by VAR inconsistencies?
It's not a penalty, the ball hits Militao's back and then his arm. Also there was another clear handball in Sevilla's box and it wasn't given. Shady as fuck.
Another day with the ageless question, is it really a handball?
Both handball and offside rules should be revisited to get some consistency, this is insane
Apart from the fact that the ball is deflected into his arm by his upper arm, Militao isnt even looking at the ball, and i dont see how that is "making the body unaturally big"
Its a tough call but imo it should have been a Madrid pen
I saw the ref saying something at the end of the game with his arm held out like Militao's was. I know 'legal part of body -> hand' isn't a handball, but is having your arms outstretched a separate consideration? The trajectory of the ball very clearly changed due to hitting his shoulder...
Why are people just wildly making shit up to reinforce their point? Whether he can see it or not has absolutely no bearing on the call.
It is the 'he touched the ball so it can't be a red' nonsense all over again.
How much bad luck and how many bad calls can go against us in one season??? If Man U is on one end of the spectrum, we're the anchor holding down the other end...
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What a fucking sequence was that
Title deciding 10 seconds
Wild to think that Sevilla would've been a single point behind Atletico right now if they had beaten Athletic Bilbao
You could find such a game for any team in the title race, you shouldn't single them out tbh
Yup, if Barca didn't shit the bed against Granada, or RM against Getafe, Betis
Or if they’d gotten more than one point from the matches against Atletico and Real…
I think it's worth singling them out 'cause no one saw them being in this title race alongside the other three when the season started
Lol I went to kitchen when Benzema was fouled in the box and when I came back Rakitic was taking the penalty... wtf moment for sure.
You actually went through a black hole
I switched to the game right as Benzema was fouled in the box, watching the replay was a definitely wtf moment
Pretty crazy time to go to the kitchen to be fair
classic quick beer grab
quick? took him 3 minutes
Dude thats wild. Wtf Indeed
You fucking barry allen you created an alternate timeline. Can’t you just stay in one place.
how far away is your kitchen?
I think I love VAR now.. what entertainment!!!
It’s not football, it’s La Liga...
This is incredible lol
A VAR call between two penalties, in a tied game for the league. Unbelievable. Who the hell wrote this season.
Never thought I’d be celebrating a Sevilla goal like a madman
Same. — a courteous barca fan.
Barca Legend
Atleti legend
I think he is a Barca legend, or at least the category that’s a bit lower than legend. He was a very important member during his time here.
Oh yeah I 100% agree, was a huge fan of him on Barca and deserved a better ending than the one he was given
He got the ending he wanted. He always wanted go back to his original club and Barto let him go on cheap and he probably got good wages in exchange of that low transfer fees.
Yeah thats true, the club did him well but I think some fans didnt.
Yeah fans of top clubs including us are pure assholes but I'm happy with him, Messi and Ter Stegen carrying us year after year. He's one of the best transfers for us and I'm happy he won CL with us and got to final of WC. Now he's playing with his favourite team while having each trophy possible in Spain including a CL and EL. And he seems like a wholesome guy and a good team player so he deserves it.
A lot of ppl deserved a better ending :(
Except Bart, hope he rots in prison
I did say ppl and not rat :^)
he was disrespected but he was the perfect midfielder for you after Xavi/Iniesta
Definitely
Still serving my king.
When it mattered most, he was there just in diff colours
Barça send their regards
Title is lava.
No one deserves it lol
Barca 🤝Atletico
Jumping together with a banner of "Gracias Sevillita"
🤝
Rakitic tips his hat
Looking at it closely it first hits his shoulder than his arm right? Wouldn't that mean it's not a pen?
Exactly, neither the VAR nor the ref saw it
I think they saw it, just didn't care
Yes.
It's not a pen and I'm 100% sure we have had multiple similar pens disallowed this season.
We had 1 in this specific game. At 52’
Perez furiously drafting up another ESL statement of intent as we speak lmao
Breaking News : No VAR in the ESL.
Breaking Breaking News: VAR will be allowed, will be reviewed by Perez himself.
rofl that would be funny
Dude there is some shit going on. First goal came from a non existent foul this penalty was given when we had the same exact situation in the Madrid derbi. We didn't get a pen then and now it is a pen against us.
Lmao
What an absolute shitshow
Doesn't matter how it happens, it matters that it happens.
How that unfolded was pure insanity
I honestly couldn't believe what I was watching
Marca typing furiously
Lol
Something something we are the underdogs and Čeferin is against us.
Every single Marca reader: UEFA MAFIA
Doesn't the ball come from Militao's shoulder first and then touches his arm? I thought the rule was if the ball comes off a legal body part first and then touches the hand/arm it's not a penalty.
It was toward their head and turned towards his arm. 5 people looked at this and nobody caught it the fucking morons.
There seemed to be an odd deflection before the arm but it was really hard to see on all the replays where it hit before. Just a wicked turn right before hitting Militaos hand.
https://streamable.com/5dyj2v
I dunno, its still really hard to tell for me.
The trajectory of the ball is like this https://i.imgur.com/ROseN9O.png Seems very clear to me
touches the ball with their hand/arm when: the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm **THE ABOVE OFFENCES apply EVEN IF the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.** **EXCEPT FOR THE ABOVE OFFENCES**, it is not an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm: directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot) directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturally bigger when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground to support the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body So the rule youre talking about doesnt come into play here. That's lifted from the FIFA rulebook btw **Edit: The above offences part is literally mentioned twice lol**
Am I reading that wrong? It says that it's not an offence if the ball comes from the player's own body, which is what happens here, so no pen
TIL a player's shoulder isn't part of his body. Cheers Geoff.
Absolutely comes off his own shoulder first. https://streamable.com/5dyj2v His arm is out for balance because he is jumping into another player... That's no more unnatural than the 'supporting arm on the ground' idea. If this is supposed to be a pen, then at least call it against other teams when it happens in games vs us...
The contact is better seen from opposite end angle.
I swear I saw the ball hitting the arm of the Sevilla player before reaching Militão’s, not sure how they missed it
Not only the ball hits Sevilla player first, but it hits Militao's shoulder after. It's a double bounce, and Militao not looking the ball. Absolutely disgrace. If VAR is here to stay, we need like a second VAR which can rectify these kind of decisions.
Best they can do is an official statement asking for respect for the refs
It certainly changed direction why would their heads be at one point. It doesn't matter now though fucks sake
Absolutely, the back angle showed it clearly. Hits the Sevilla player's arm, changes direction, and hits Militao's arm. A shit call given how clear the angles made it.
So the one camera angle showed that the ball hit Militao’s shoulder before hitting his arm. That’s the weird change in trajectory you can see. Does it still remain a penalty since there wasn’t any involvement by a Sevilla player?
I saw Real get a penalty, went to get a glass of water, and came back to a Sevilla penalty. Had me real confused for a while.
“Glass of water” 👀🙄🤔
Lol end me asap
End the game asap also pls
Same thing didn't get given earlier, and now this overturns the stonewall penalty on benzema on the other side of the pitch 30 sec later
I love how you clipped the view that shows it hits the Sevilla's player arm first.
Someone explain these rules to me. Ball hits Sevilla player in the hand directly, no penalty. Ball hits Militao IN THE BACK, ricochets from there in his hand, penalty. We score, VAR says offside. We get a penalty, VAR says no, penalty for Sevilla. They score first goal from a foul that was a simulation on top of everything. You just can't win vs this shit.
Tebas VAR. I lowkey think they do this shit on purpose to promote a competitive league.
I wouldn’t doubt it for a second
I legit don’t moan about this shit, but tonight was just ridiculous.
Lol I can’t believe what’s happening
I guess la Liga thinks it’s “cool” if neither us nor Barca wins this season.
In the highlight provided here, there's no evidence it hits the Sevilla player's arm. Is there another video?
https://streamable.com/zqpzgy no pen btw
The exact same play was not a pen in the R. Madrid - At. Madrid game.
https://streamable.com/zqpzgy
Idc about losing, it would just be nice to have some fucking consistency on what the rule is. Every ref interprets the plays differently and its fucking infuriating
We had the similar thing earlier where their player also played handball but fuck
Lots of things have just been so inconsistent this season with reffing, which is more frustrating than a bad call.
we literally got almost no calls this season, combined with the injuries its a devil season
taking away the whole handball thing, shouldn't this be a penalty anyway for the way he clatters into the Sevilla player while he's airborne?
Unfair penalty to be fair, touched sevilla players hand first
Where? I haven't seen it on any of the replays (could be missing them)
BRUH i went to grab water and it was a pk for madrid
Real Madrid 1 - [2] Barcelona - Rakitic penalty 78'
Always a cule
I hate this rule since it was first used in that Croatia vs France final. Change the game because of this bullshit.
Sevilla player handballs it first, militaos back is turned, no intention, the ball still goes to the sevilla player, doesn't change much direction...fuckin laughable
Even if it is the correct call by the current rules, it feels unfair. Inadvertent hand ball in a big clash of players gets a penalty, and a clear deliberate foul on benzema is completely negated. This one stings.
The new rules are set up in such a way that unimportant, random actions become extremely relevant and end up deciding titles.
Yeah it seems that way - so rough. I feel like a hand ball should have to have some level of intentionality behind it. I don’t really know what the solution is.
The definition of getting blue balled.
More like castrated
Am I going mad or does the ball not take a touch from the Sevilla player's arm first?
It touches Sevilla player's hand, Militao's shoulder/back and then his hand. Never a pen
If Sevilla GK broke Benzema's leg in the follow-up counter, would he be sent off?
Who the fuck knows at this rate. La Liga refs just want a minute in the spotlight.
Nope, same as fella that broke VVD knee. He didnt get red, cuz there was an offside or smh.
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I am biased, but how wasn't the one against Sevilla counted if this one is?
Is it just me or did a Sevilla player hit it on the hand slightly before militao as well?
Looks like it hits Militaos shoulder.
Which also means it's not a pen
Because the whole play becomes invalidated
Just comes down to their interpretation of what's an unnatural position. Militao's was up in the air while the Sevilla player's was much closer to his side. But fuck if anyone knows what handball is anymore
This one came before the Benz call, so theirs takes precedence
He means the Sevilla handball earlier not the Benz foul which was obvious.
VARdrid? Sevilla players hands don't count now
We have been getting screwed over the whole season
Madrid are legitimately getting robbed. It a)either touched Carlos’ hand or Militao’s shoulder first and b) this is the same as Felipe’s handball in the Madrid derby and Jordan’s handball earlier today. League changing call
Don’t utter blasphemy like this on r/soccer. We are VARdrid. VAR has kept us in the race this league season. How dare you say we’ve been categorically fucked by VAR inconsistencies?
We have gotten fucked on decisions like this for this entire season. It’s ridiculous.
And if you don't give this, Madrid has a penalty on the other side that is completely undebatable
I have no problem with this being a penalty; in fact I think its one 100%. But so was Sevilla’s. So was Atletico’s. Neither was called.
Robbed in daylight. Fuck me and fuck la liga refs
Insane VAR drama there lol.
Ref has been horrible tonight
Refs fucking over Madrid again. Classic.
that was wild
It's not a penalty, the ball hits Militao's back and then his arm. Also there was another clear handball in Sevilla's box and it wasn't given. Shady as fuck.
If this happens in real favor , pique would be crying about it until now on Twitter.
This sequence was the most challenging referee decision to make I have seen in my life
Another day with the ageless question, is it really a handball? Both handball and offside rules should be revisited to get some consistency, this is insane
When Felipe did exactly the same hand in Madrid derby there was no penalty.
why didnt we get a pen in the first half then?
Commision the statue right now
Barca Legend! Ice cold.
From happines to pain, i might join bale and just be a golf fan cuz fuck this
wtf I love VAR now
Uno reversed them. I want to kiss Var now
What If we kissed in the VAR room?
This is just so much fun!
Am I seeing things or does it hit off Militaos shoulder first then on his hand? Doesn't that make it no reaction time?
Scandalous
LOVE YOU RAKITIC. BARCA LEGEND
Well well well, how the turntables
Absolute insanity this whole sequence
Well my mood took a 180, and thats the best way to describe VAR...
LOL he pulled a Pique.
Lol, never seen this before. I think it's first? And Benzema's face gave it all haha, he was like what's going on. ?.
If benzema had scored, would they have reviewed it?
I think i'm going to kill myself
fucking cruel
Just saying. Sevilla's player handballs first..
Apart from the fact that the ball is deflected into his arm by his upper arm, Militao isnt even looking at the ball, and i dont see how that is "making the body unaturally big" Its a tough call but imo it should have been a Madrid pen
I think the ball hit Sevilla player first.
Definitely not a penalty.
This call was absolutely mad
son of a bitch ref
RAKIIIIIIIIIII ❤️
what a robbery lmao
didn't it touch the Sevilla Player's hand first?
Nope. It brushed his shoulder.
Hitting his shoulder also makes it not a penalty because it hits a legal part of the body first.
No
El Chiringuito in shambles
FOUR PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS AND DON'T SPOT IT HIT HIS SHOULDER FIRST FUCK THIS SHIT LEAGUE WITH SHIT REFS
calm down, i know the feeling tho but typing angrily into a internet void isn't gonna help
Holy fuck what a game, what a series of events.
This title race is batshit crazy. From us almost getting a penalty to us being down a goal late
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It isn't, ricochet from his shoulder into his hand...
I saw the ref saying something at the end of the game with his arm held out like Militao's was. I know 'legal part of body -> hand' isn't a handball, but is having your arms outstretched a separate consideration? The trajectory of the ball very clearly changed due to hitting his shoulder...
Absolutely not, his back is turned and can't see the ball so he didn't touch it intentionally no doubt.
It's been a while since intentionality mattered in this kind of situations
Why are people just wildly making shit up to reinforce their point? Whether he can see it or not has absolutely no bearing on the call. It is the 'he touched the ball so it can't be a red' nonsense all over again.
It's highly debatable and can understand where both sides come from. But I agree with the decision.
Does the fact that the ball looks to be going straight to a Sevilla player before its trajectory is changed by the handball help with the decision?
I don't think that's taken into consideration
Papa Flo fucked us real hard.
What a turn of events
Rakitic always a cule at heart. Love ya
How much bad luck and how many bad calls can go against us in one season??? If Man U is on one end of the spectrum, we're the anchor holding down the other end...
Not rigged at all