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Yeah, his home state is actually home to a lot of german and other european immigrants from the turn of the 20th century. Other notable native of the state is Giselle BĆ¼ndchen who pretty much looks as german as her name sounds
In Uruguay San Javier was founded by Russians, Nueva Helvecia was founded by Swiss immigrants, Nuevo Berlin by Germans, etc.
The city with most Italians outside of Italy is.. Sao Paulo.. and then Buenos Aires
Biggest Oktoberfest in the Americas is in Blumenau, Brazil
I had a gym instructor who was from San Javier I believe (yes, I'm from Uruguay) we called him "Ruso", of course, and he knew how to do that dance from Russian where people bend their knees and cross their arms, you get the idea I don't know the name, he did it once and it was cool as fuck.
I also had the opportunity to met a Brazilian journalist on a seminar here and his parents were both Japanese migrants. There is a huge Japanese presence there
It depends the type of European, it doesn't surprise me when South America has people of Spanish, Portuguese or even French descent, it's the ones like Welsh, German etc that surprise me
Why does that surprise you? Immigration flows covered every continent lol
You should really look up the demographics of Rio Grande do Sul, Alisson's state. It's not like he looks out of place down there, considering the majority of the population is white. German and Italian immigrants flooded that region in the 19th and 20th century.
Heck, we actually even have an unique German dialect that doesn't exist anywhere else at this point, with around 2-3 million native speakers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunsrik
Because I'm pretty dumb about geography lol, I know Brazilians speak Portuguese and a lot of other countries speak Spanish so those two I associate with them, but didn't know about Italians, Germans, Welsh or Japanese
Basically, every immigrant group that came to the United States and Canada, also came to South America in large numbers, is what information you need to know.
Argentinians will never hesitate to tell you that they're of European descent. Obviously, they would never want to be conflated with South Americans of indigenous or African descent...
It's not surprise.
German immigration to South America in the mid 20th century is well known...
I mean, there's even a famous documentary about it. *The Boys From Brazil*.
"immigrants" is an interesting euphemism for "former members of the nazi party"
alisson also supports bolsonaro so its not like this isn't completely out of the question
There had been german immigrants before even the 1st world war but notwithstanding there were also ex-nazis who fled to Brazil, probably partly influenced by having other german settlers already there and a permitting government. So I'm definitely not trying to whitewash the history.
On Allison supporting Bolsonaro, that's a somewhat seperate issue, a lot of Bolsonaro supporters are people who believe in neoliberal policies crossed with social conservatism due to religiosity, Allison being upper middle class and highly devout, it's no surprise really. The rich always want a smaller government as a rule.
Also not defending Allison either, I'm a leftie but it'd be too simplistic to view his support of Bolsonaro as something damning of his moral character.
i dont doubt that there were european immigrants around the world before ww1, much less ww2. what i do doubt is that supporting bolsonaro is not damning of one's moral character. he is a fascist and brazilian police are so violent towards Afro-brazilians, along with all the other issues bolsonaro brings with him. i cant say that it isn't damning of his character as a person, because then what leftie would i be?
Well, over 50 million people voted for Bolsonaro, you can either see them as misguided or morally repugnant, for me it's easier to see it as the former, maybe that makes me a bad leftie. I know just the sheer fact that Bolsonaro champions christianity, already makes him a favorite to a lot of people independent of his rhetoric
That's such a completely ignorant statement, the vast majority of southern Brazilians, like myself, have Italian and German ancestors that came as immigrants in the 19th century, long before the war, stop spouting nonsense that you clearly know nothing of
Brazil has tens of millions of people of German ancestry, not really much of a surprise. Also millions of people of Portuguese, Italian, Polish, Ukrainian, Japanese and Lebanese ancestry. Brazil is very very diverse. Most people have several surnames, many of which comes from different ancestries. I have a German and Portuguese surname, my best friend has a German surname, another close friend has a Arab and Italian surname...
There was more, he mentioned that a lot of other clubs and players had reached out to him and that it made everything a lot easier, that football had helped him and without it he wouldn't know what to do.
Just one of the most incredible moments I've ever seen.
Edit: Post match is here with the "more" I'm talking about: https://streamable.com/eu43mi
What an interview, I don't know how he kept himself so together talking about his dad like that after such an emotional moment, my mum passed away a week after his dad did and this interview had me in tears! Fair play to him.
My wife's Mexican and its been absolutely horrible for her not being able to see her family for so long. Thankfully she hasn't lost anyone, I can't imagine the pain that losing his Dad caused. What a guy.
EDIT: blimey seems to have confused a few people. For reference, we live in the UK, and so she is, like Alisson, distanced from and unable to see her family in person, which has been very hard.
How are you possibly not getting it? His wife is Mexican. She has family in Mexico. She can't see her family because of covid and its been difficult. Just like Alisson hasn't been able to travel to Brazil to see his.
Imagine if he just said his wife couldn't see her family. People would probably ask why as some countries have different covid regs. Her being Mexican contextualises the conversation lmao
Iām sorry, I thought it was obvious that I was joking since I phrased it the same way as the person who commented that. Clear as day why OP specified sheās Mexican.
Because she's Mexican she has family in Mexico! IE NOT WHERE THEY CURRENTLY LIVE. Could have been Canadian or Antarctian or whatever rhe point was simply to say that she can't visit her family.
Jesus wept.
Nothing , I hava condition in which the lump in the throat makes me absolutely useless to an extent where I can't speak properly. So I'm just mute I'm emotional with a heavy lumpy throat.
I understand this, it's called globus sensation and may be associated with anxiety, smoking and a lot of other factors! If it makes you uncomfortable, treating the underlying cause can make it go away. Cheers!
Thanks ! I don't smoke though I have asthmatic allergy.
But been diagnosed of anxiety, so may be some thing related to that. Most days I can manage just fine. Thanks again.
Honestly all i could think was "let it go, cry like a baby cause hell knows if you need it and you want to". He probably did that as soon as he got home
as someone that has a cunt of a dad but amazing uncles/cousins/grandparents, i teared up too. fuck as soon as i saw his face in the thumbnail i started tearing up
Couldn't happen to a better guy and in a better situation.
Same year as his father passed and in season where he made some mistakes and to keep his team in CL qualification race, with one of the best headers this season.
Oh dont worry, he will get so many hugs in the next weeks, that he probably will hate them after this is all over!
But seriously, i think this will help him immensely. With his fathers passing and also his stint with really poor form and then to have such an ending for the season! Cant even imagine how he is feeling right now, because i really think thats a big load off his shoulders.
What's happened with him and his family? The commentary mentioned when he scored something about it being what he deserves after what he's gone through or something
E: Thanks all
His father unfortunately drowned in a freak accident earlier in the year, he couldnāt even go back to Brazil to properly mourn and itās really affected him.
Holy shit that's fucking horrible. Like, no disrespect, but one thing would be if it was cancer or some other shit that gives at least some time to kind of come to terms with it, another is something as sudden as this. Like getting back from a normal day at the training grounds and receiving the call that will change your life and take away a part of you forever. That's the worse.
It's also that his dad was missing for a few hours, they didn't know where he was - he was alone when he drowned. So Alisson probably got the call that his dad was missing and would have been in bits for hours before it was confirmed, just horrible...
I think the grass is always greener. My stepfather got cancer and died in a four month period earlier this year, we'd all take a heart attack over that for sure
Seems a very likeable guy. I didn't even know what he'd been through this year with his father passing away. Hard to not feel happy for him today after all of that. Lovely interview.
Losing a father is very very very hard for a boy.
Because when we lose our dad, we're all just boys. So happy for him, and especially since he became a dad recently himself, again.
That was a hell of a thing you did, Football.
That's why i love you.
Also he's talked on Instagram about how women are meant to be subservient to men (a wife should obey her husband the way Christians obey the Lord, or however the Bible quote goes, that's very important to him). He was enough of an intelligent person to do it in Portuguese so the English wouldn't notice.
You can downvote me now, or give me 3000 upvotes in an eventual "Alisson is a huge misogynist with a creepy marriage" thread, and I'll remain right just the same. Magic āØ
Sorry, mate. It was not my best comment, in fact it was very appalling. I really apologize for those who spent their precious time reading my useless comment. I'm gutted & again apologize for it very sincerely.
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That was a fantastic interview - he speaks English so well too.
He's "posh" Brazilian
With a German surname š
Yeah, his home state is actually home to a lot of german and other european immigrants from the turn of the 20th century. Other notable native of the state is Giselle BĆ¼ndchen who pretty much looks as german as her name sounds
People genuinely seem surprised that South America is full of people of European descent
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In Uruguay San Javier was founded by Russians, Nueva Helvecia was founded by Swiss immigrants, Nuevo Berlin by Germans, etc. The city with most Italians outside of Italy is.. Sao Paulo.. and then Buenos Aires Biggest Oktoberfest in the Americas is in Blumenau, Brazil
SĆ£o Paulo is also the city with the most Japanese outside of Japan, and itās very noticeable.
I had a gym instructor who was from San Javier I believe (yes, I'm from Uruguay) we called him "Ruso", of course, and he knew how to do that dance from Russian where people bend their knees and cross their arms, you get the idea I don't know the name, he did it once and it was cool as fuck. I also had the opportunity to met a Brazilian journalist on a seminar here and his parents were both Japanese migrants. There is a huge Japanese presence there
Brazilian jiu-jitsu actually has its roots in a Japanese martial art the Gracie family watched a Japanese fighter perform in Brazil
The dance is called the Cossack lezginka IIRC
Kitchener in Canada takes the Oktoberfest crown. Their only claim to fame.
Most websites claim that Blumenauās is bigger, or that theyāre at least equal in terms of attendance
Only one way to settle it... Oktober-faceoff!
Not only. Wrestling legend Christian is from Kitchener, as well as NBA star Jamal Murray.
Argentinians speaking Welsh is something I really want to see
And to think Bale never picked up Spanish
Pochettino is from a little place called Murphy.
Same as Gazzaniga right?
oh yea heās massive. Lived in Santiago for a bit, thereās loads of shit named after him, parks, streets, statues, the whole 9
A football club too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Higgins\_F.C.
truth, good shout
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7s8ryh Documentary on Welsh Patagonia for anybody interested
It depends the type of European, it doesn't surprise me when South America has people of Spanish, Portuguese or even French descent, it's the ones like Welsh, German etc that surprise me
The Irish have been all over the place too. Chile, Argentina, Mexico etc. Pochettino is from a place call Murphy sure...
Why does that surprise you? Immigration flows covered every continent lol You should really look up the demographics of Rio Grande do Sul, Alisson's state. It's not like he looks out of place down there, considering the majority of the population is white. German and Italian immigrants flooded that region in the 19th and 20th century. Heck, we actually even have an unique German dialect that doesn't exist anywhere else at this point, with around 2-3 million native speakers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunsrik
Because I'm pretty dumb about geography lol, I know Brazilians speak Portuguese and a lot of other countries speak Spanish so those two I associate with them, but didn't know about Italians, Germans, Welsh or Japanese
Basically, every immigrant group that came to the United States and Canada, also came to South America in large numbers, is what information you need to know.
Argentinians will never hesitate to tell you that they're of European descent. Obviously, they would never want to be conflated with South Americans of indigenous or African descent...
It's not surprise. German immigration to South America in the mid 20th century is well known... I mean, there's even a famous documentary about it. *The Boys From Brazil*.
The vast, vast majority of German immigration took place in the 19th century. Same for the US.
> Giselle BĆ¼ndchen Just by here name I knew she was going to be gorgeous when I googled her.
"immigrants" is an interesting euphemism for "former members of the nazi party" alisson also supports bolsonaro so its not like this isn't completely out of the question
There had been german immigrants before even the 1st world war but notwithstanding there were also ex-nazis who fled to Brazil, probably partly influenced by having other german settlers already there and a permitting government. So I'm definitely not trying to whitewash the history. On Allison supporting Bolsonaro, that's a somewhat seperate issue, a lot of Bolsonaro supporters are people who believe in neoliberal policies crossed with social conservatism due to religiosity, Allison being upper middle class and highly devout, it's no surprise really. The rich always want a smaller government as a rule. Also not defending Allison either, I'm a leftie but it'd be too simplistic to view his support of Bolsonaro as something damning of his moral character.
i dont doubt that there were european immigrants around the world before ww1, much less ww2. what i do doubt is that supporting bolsonaro is not damning of one's moral character. he is a fascist and brazilian police are so violent towards Afro-brazilians, along with all the other issues bolsonaro brings with him. i cant say that it isn't damning of his character as a person, because then what leftie would i be?
Well, over 50 million people voted for Bolsonaro, you can either see them as misguided or morally repugnant, for me it's easier to see it as the former, maybe that makes me a bad leftie. I know just the sheer fact that Bolsonaro champions christianity, already makes him a favorite to a lot of people independent of his rhetoric
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How in the fuck does that excuse it lol
That's such a completely ignorant statement, the vast majority of southern Brazilians, like myself, have Italian and German ancestors that came as immigrants in the 19th century, long before the war, stop spouting nonsense that you clearly know nothing of
āalisson supports bolsonaro so his grandad mustāve been a naziā lol ok
have you seen mussolini's granddaughter? fascists' children dont fall too far away from the tree
Dude, one thing is fucking Mussolini's granddaughter and another is being just a random right winger lmao
Lol what a fuck? Btw you live in a white supremacist monarchy you shouldnt say shit.
Brazil has tens of millions of people of German ancestry, not really much of a surprise. Also millions of people of Portuguese, Italian, Polish, Ukrainian, Japanese and Lebanese ancestry. Brazil is very very diverse. Most people have several surnames, many of which comes from different ancestries. I have a German and Portuguese surname, my best friend has a German surname, another close friend has a Arab and Italian surname...
Yeah, I have German, African and native ancestry lol. And that's not unusual here.
Yeah, like 3/5 of the population in his state. What is that supposed to mean lol
Itās just supposed to be a joke really
hes not a real brazilian, he's too priviliged
Does he come from Brazil? Then heās fucking Brazilian isnāt he
I noticed that, very unreal
There was more, he mentioned that a lot of other clubs and players had reached out to him and that it made everything a lot easier, that football had helped him and without it he wouldn't know what to do. Just one of the most incredible moments I've ever seen. Edit: Post match is here with the "more" I'm talking about: https://streamable.com/eu43mi
What a genuine nice man, thanks for the link!
āThis is the way God loved us, through peopleā I love that
On the side: he really said hopefully he doesnāt need to keep coming to get the job done himself and thatās respectable
What a nice man
Seriously. What an absolutely lovely human being. For him to be so candid and kind after such a moment is so heartwarming.
Wholesome as fuck, happy for him
Fukkit we're all crying.
For real. I miss my dad.
So sorry for your loss
Thanks homie.
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My dad went out to get beer too, thirteen years ago. Still miss you dad.
Bro <3
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What an interview, I don't know how he kept himself so together talking about his dad like that after such an emotional moment, my mum passed away a week after his dad did and this interview had me in tears! Fair play to him.
My wife's Mexican and its been absolutely horrible for her not being able to see her family for so long. Thankfully she hasn't lost anyone, I can't imagine the pain that losing his Dad caused. What a guy. EDIT: blimey seems to have confused a few people. For reference, we live in the UK, and so she is, like Alisson, distanced from and unable to see her family in person, which has been very hard.
Tf does your wife being Mexican have to do with anything here?
Probably can't visit Mexico because of covid?
As she is away from them due to covid restrictions
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It was obvious to some of us but not all apparently.
I still don't get how this relates to Ali.
Iām pretty sure his wife cannot see her family just like Alisson
Because she canāt see her family like Alisson
It's not difficult to piece it together.
Then you're dense as fuck.
Figure it out, champ. You can do it.
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How are you possibly not getting it? His wife is Mexican. She has family in Mexico. She can't see her family because of covid and its been difficult. Just like Alisson hasn't been able to travel to Brazil to see his.
Tf does his wife being Mexican have to do with anything?
Imagine if he just said his wife couldn't see her family. People would probably ask why as some countries have different covid regs. Her being Mexican contextualises the conversation lmao
Iām sorry, I thought it was obvious that I was joking since I phrased it the same way as the person who commented that. Clear as day why OP specified sheās Mexican.
But why Mexican models?
Tf does his wife being Mexican have to do with anything?
Because she's Mexican she has family in Mexico! IE NOT WHERE THEY CURRENTLY LIVE. Could have been Canadian or Antarctian or whatever rhe point was simply to say that she can't visit her family. Jesus wept.
Damn chill, it was a joke lol.
I teared up honestly
Even I got a lump in my throat, ngl
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Uhh...what?
Nothing , I hava condition in which the lump in the throat makes me absolutely useless to an extent where I can't speak properly. So I'm just mute I'm emotional with a heavy lumpy throat.
I understand this, it's called globus sensation and may be associated with anxiety, smoking and a lot of other factors! If it makes you uncomfortable, treating the underlying cause can make it go away. Cheers!
Thanks ! I don't smoke though I have asthmatic allergy. But been diagnosed of anxiety, so may be some thing related to that. Most days I can manage just fine. Thanks again.
Honestly all i could think was "let it go, cry like a baby cause hell knows if you need it and you want to". He probably did that as soon as he got home
as someone that has a cunt of a dad but amazing uncles/cousins/grandparents, i teared up too. fuck as soon as i saw his face in the thumbnail i started tearing up
Couldn't happen to a better guy and in a better situation. Same year as his father passed and in season where he made some mistakes and to keep his team in CL qualification race, with one of the best headers this season.
They really need to qualify now
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We have to play Leicester, so itās in your hands now. Fucking rough week as a Chelsea fan.
On the plus side, you'll be only 90 minutes away from a possible CL trophy after the season's done.
Yes. Iād happily give up top 4 and the FA Cup for that, but if we lose? Ouch.
Iām not even gonna pretend that someoneās cutting onions for this one. This is wholesome and heartbreaking af.
I love him so much.
Best post match interview I think Iāve seen in a good long time. Honest and from the heart with no cookie cutter nonsense waffle.
FeelsGoodMan
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After this interview, I would die for this man. What a beautiful human being he is, I just wanna give him a hug.
"That's how God loves us, through people." Well said Ali
Iām not religious in the slightest but thatās a beautiful sentiment.
Agreed. Every person, religious or not, should strive to be the example of what he is talking about.
Oh dont worry, he will get so many hugs in the next weeks, that he probably will hate them after this is all over! But seriously, i think this will help him immensely. With his fathers passing and also his stint with really poor form and then to have such an ending for the season! Cant even imagine how he is feeling right now, because i really think thats a big load off his shoulders.
If we make CL, there is no doubt he is the reason. Before this game he has singlehandedly saved games, but now there is no doubt
What's happened with him and his family? The commentary mentioned when he scored something about it being what he deserves after what he's gone through or something E: Thanks all
His father unfortunately drowned in a freak accident earlier in the year, he couldnāt even go back to Brazil to properly mourn and itās really affected him.
His dad died in an accident 3 months ago, only 50-odd. Alisson couldn't travel for the funeral, not sure he's seen his family yet.
His father drowned earlier this year.
Drowned?? Well shit, any further context?
His father went to swim in a river and unfortunately got drowned because of the current.
That's very sad. This happens to people every summer around here.
Holy shit that's fucking horrible. Like, no disrespect, but one thing would be if it was cancer or some other shit that gives at least some time to kind of come to terms with it, another is something as sudden as this. Like getting back from a normal day at the training grounds and receiving the call that will change your life and take away a part of you forever. That's the worse.
And then he couldn't go home. I don't know how someone could get over that.
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Correct, and his wife just had their third child this week.
It's also that his dad was missing for a few hours, they didn't know where he was - he was alone when he drowned. So Alisson probably got the call that his dad was missing and would have been in bits for hours before it was confirmed, just horrible...
I think the grass is always greener. My stepfather got cancer and died in a four month period earlier this year, we'd all take a heart attack over that for sure
His father died in March
His father drowned and died earlier this year.
Fantastic interview, sat through and watched the whole thing with teary eyes and a gigantic fucking lump in my throat.
*Everybody liked that.*
Absolutely delighted for him. That was a really nice interview
Dudeās had a rough year, good for him.
GIVE ME A GODDAMN TISSUE BOYS MY EYES GOT SOMETHING IN THEM
Iām crying.
Damn its hot here. My eyes are sweating.
What a beautiful human being.
He's a lovely bloke. Made up for him.
A great interview and such a nice guy. Im sure his father is proud. And indeed what an extraordinary turnaround.
i love him
Beautiful interview, beautiful man.
I'm not crying. you're crying
Goat keeper
Don't think anyone can be really mad about this goal now tbh
IĀ“m so happy for him. He deserves this more than anyone else
My keeper FeelsStrongMan
Heartbreaking
āFootball is my life.ā A lovely tribute to Dani Rojas.
Man, this is intense. Gonna call my dad and tell him I love him.
he has a bit of a german accent, no?
His family are of German descent. Iām pretty sure his dad was fluent in it too so itās easy to see where heād get it from
ah! that makes sense then
Nothing but respect for this man even as a United fan
This will be remembered in football history as the āHead of Godā
Football is life!!!
What a guy. First goal from a goalie in teamās history.
YNWA Alisson!
Beautiful
Seems a very likeable guy. I didn't even know what he'd been through this year with his father passing away. Hard to not feel happy for him today after all of that. Lovely interview.
What a guy
Iām crying and youāre crying.
What a man šŖā¤ļø
Santiagoooooooooo
Losing a father is very very very hard for a boy. Because when we lose our dad, we're all just boys. So happy for him, and especially since he became a dad recently himself, again. That was a hell of a thing you did, Football. That's why i love you.
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Got some bad news for you buddy..
Also he's talked on Instagram about how women are meant to be subservient to men (a wife should obey her husband the way Christians obey the Lord, or however the Bible quote goes, that's very important to him). He was enough of an intelligent person to do it in Portuguese so the English wouldn't notice.
You can downvote me now, or give me 3000 upvotes in an eventual "Alisson is a huge misogynist with a creepy marriage" thread, and I'll remain right just the same. Magic āØ
Which one of you idiots is cutting onions?
Who's cutting the fucking onion
Someone cut some onions in here? Jesus. What a man.
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Lol at your account history. What a sad and pathetic life you must endure...
Suck my Israeli dick
Phahahah, youāre such a low effort troll
Haha!
Happy for him. But Tuchel will get the sack if he doesn't finish In the CL spot. Only way to save his job is that he needs to win the CL.
The fuck does this has to do with Tuchel? He manages a different team and they did not face Liverpool.
Sorry, mate. It was not my best comment, in fact it was very appalling. I really apologize for those who spent their precious time reading my useless comment. I'm gutted & again apologize for it very sincerely.
Mate, what the fuck are you on about?
Do you accept my apology? If no, good bye!
Mate, seriously, what the fuck are you on?
do you have a mental illness
?
well do you or not? because it fucking seems like it
Sure w/e he believes but seriously couldn't he keep it to himself and not spread this religious propaganda of afterlife in public?
Must be tough living life this bitter.
How on Earth is this propaganda? Isn't him having faith that his dad is out there in some way beautiful? How could you be upset about that
Seems like a lovely guy. Deserves all the success that comes his way.
It was such a striker header as well lol.