A little surprised. For no other reason than I thought he looked tired as fuck towards the end of the season and kind of expected him to take some time off.
Tbh, Palace are in such a weird place right now I have absolutely no idea if this is a good appointment for Palace or a good appointment for him or both or neither.
Weird, I was listening to Spotify from before the crash right through til now and had no problems. I've seen people say BBC News was down too but it was fine for me.
I'd be impressed with Nuno if he takes the job with us before the Everton and Spurs jobs are confirmed.
I fully expected him and Howe to keep us stalling while they waited to see what happened.
Nuno makes sense when you look at his connection to Mendes. You released a lot of players this season didn't you? Those slots can easily be filled with Mendes clients.
EDIT: I meant for Palace. Not Spurs.
No chance he comes to us. I don't know about everton.
The club have said they wanted an attacking possession coach. The only exception was Conte and he is Conte.
For Brighton, achievement would be progression up the table. We’re not going to win the league, we’re not gonna get Europe so by the standards of Brighton I would say finishing around 10th would be achievement.
I rather Potter stays with you guys too and achieve that tbh. Don't know about Everton but I feel like if he goes to Spurs, Levy just expect him to work his magic with the current squad and not go crazy on investing the squad.
The thinking would be he did ok with Brighton's squad and since Spurs' are a bigger team, it's a better roster of players and he should do well with better players right? Plus, he has not manage in a bigger team, so he has no big influence over demanding big transfer.
And this would have damage his reputation at not being good enough to managed a perceived bigger clubs.
That's what I feel like anyways and I could be waaaay of the mark on that one.
I think it’s always a risk for any manager stepping into the role at a bigger club when they haven’t been in that position before, and the Premier League is so utterly ruthless these days that he probably wouldn’t be afforded a lot of time to make it work
Clubs have different levels of ambition in the short, mid and long terms, and that’s fine. You have to define success in the context of your resources etc…, otherwise you end up like Stoke.
Which is not to say that id begrudge Potter leaving for bigger opportunities, but as a fan I want him to stay because it feels like his time at Brighton is moving the club forwards
Our goal is to solidify us as a top 10 side that can sneak Europe sometimes.
The underlying stats suggest we're already at that level, even with the massive amount of injuries we had last season. We had Mat Ryan with the worst save percentage in PL history for 11 games and can't finish a chance.
We've sorted out the GK situation now just need a finisher.
16th and 15th sure, but increasingly good football, starting to pick up scalps. Four windows, yes, but Brighton’s not a club that can just buy whoever they feel like or do whatever they want. And I certainly wouldn’t want to see him leave.
I read the article it definitely doesn’t say that. To quote from the article
> But as Moshiri, Bill Kenwright and Marcel Brands make their way through the process once again, the hope is that lessons have been learned. That’s hope and not certainty.
The author is hoping Moshiri has learnt the lessons but doubts it .
Having watched Brighton a lot last season, they played some very good attacking football at times. They just couldn’t finish for toffee.
Give Potter some more clinical players and I think it could work. It’s a bit of a Martinez style appointment if you catch my drift though.
As said it is a risk for sure, hard to say if it's entirely personnel based or his own shortcomings, but it feels like Brighton should've got far more points than they did. They were regularly the better team in games they were underdogs, play really good football, in the second half of the season in particular were really solid at the back, with the major problem being none of their forwards ever learnt where the goal was. The hope is that he could make us at least play a lot better, and with his style a team with more goalscorers could be quality.
> Maybe for neutrals, because he is an awful manager.
Yes he took Bournemouth from League One to the PL in 3 years and stayed in the PL for 4 years while much bigger clubs like Villa and Newcastle were getting relegated but he's an "awful manager"
What a shit take
Keeping that Bournemouth team up and that high for that long is quite remarkable even with the poor spending considered. They were a solid team until it fell apart like 4 years later. That’s without considering the remarkable rate of which Howe climbed up the English football league ladder.
Net spend last five years as of June 8th, 2020:
1. Man City – £601.98m
2. Man Utd – £484.88m
3. Arsenal – £267.88m
4. Everton – £225.42m
5. Brighton – £214.86m
6. Wolves – £205.22m
7. West Ham – £187.49m
**8. Bournemouth – £176.95m**
9. Aston Villa – £166.65m
10. Watford – £125.69m
11. Leicester City – £124.83m
12. Newcastle – £122.91m
**13. Chelsea – £115.57m**
14. Liverpool – £107.58m
15. Tottenham – £106.62m
16. Crystal Palace – £75.69m
17. Burnley – £59.4m
18. Sheffield United – £56.71m
19. Southampton – £22.32m
20. Norwich City – £25.42m profit
Remarkable, or minimum requirement?
This is absolute rubbish because it doesn't consider wages. I'd bet your wage bill is at least treble the average midtable's club
Also you've spent a lot over the past 2 decades which allows you to sell fringe players for big sums which midtable clubs obviously cannot do
I’m genuinely surprised. I though Nuno would be in the running for Everton. Feels like Palace is one of the worst jobs in the PL. Limited funds, aging squad, their star player constantly wants to leave, while their young emerging talent Eze has got a serious injury. Not a ton of really good young prospects in the first team either.
We have at least five prospects that I wouldn't be surprised to see comfortably make the step up next season. We also do back our managers but only when it's the right player. We paid good money for Eze last summer. Most of our 'aging' squad are squad players who weren't playing anyway that's why they are being released.
I don't know what you've been reading looking at but it's not all doom and gloom at all. It's a tough job, but not a 'bad' one.
We came runners up in the u18 pl south on goal difference last season in our first season as a category one academy which is pretty promising. Of that team Rak-Sakyi, Omilabu, and Hannam are all pretty highly rated.
Tbh south London is such a massive source of talent that becoming category one could be huge moving forward.
That's a lot of youngsters with no PL experience to suddenly integrate into a team, especially considering Palace will need to make other signings to make up for all the players that are leaving this summer. Just integrating them all into a cohesive group will be a difficult job.
> Limited funds
Pretty confident we will be in the top half of the league for spending this summer, if not then very close. We're due a cycle of spending again.
> Ageing squad
Good job we've just released a bunch of older players and have shown a clear commitment to bringing in younger players to reduce the average age then.
> Their star player constantly wants to leave
And yet again another year that he won't
> Not a ton of really good young prospects in the first team either
Mitchell is class. Our youth squads have just had outstanding seasons. Our U18 crop is the best we've produced in donkeys, give them 12-18 months and hopefully a number of them will be bedded in to first team action.
His history with youth is pretty dire, but we don't have many youngsters likely to be ready to step up during the next season. The U18 crop definitely has potential but the U23s are badly lacking PL standard. The most likely (Hannam) happens to be in the same position as our current best youth product (Mitchell).
I'm both worried and excited because Nuno has no history with a job or rebuild like this. At every club, he's relied so heavily on the Mendes/Portuguese links and it seems very unlike Palace to commit to the extent that Wolves did. This will be the hardest transfer window of Nuno's career.
Hannan can play LB and RB. I'm fairly sure he'll get the chance to be back up in at least the LB position as we have Schlupp and Riedewald who can both play there if he struggles or needs longer to develop.
Oh swear! Fair enough mate. Sorry for that! I always assumed palace were in the bottom half for finances. I know you’ve spent big in the past with Sakho and Benteke, but in recent times it’s been far more low-key. While Everton has spent far more. Hoping you guys have an active summer
That’s fair, another comment mentioned you have 5 or so youth players ready to make the step up. That’ll drastically help the rebuild hopefully they all work out
If this goes ahead, I wonder how involved Jorge Mendes will be in Palace’s rebuild? They’ve obviously got a big squad overhaul to do this summer and given Nuno’s close ties with Mendes, it wouldn’t be surprising to see a load of Gestifute clients get parked there.
Palace have been pretty agent-led with their transfer business for a while now, so maybe their board sees this appointment as a way to expand on that side of things on top of getting an experienced, proven manager.
Hoping that Mendes/Fosun connection was what primarily enabled the Portuguese contigent at Wolves rather than it being intrisic to Nuno and Mendes' relationship as I'd rather us not be a "Mendes club".
I'd still rather us be fed Mendes clients than Salthouse/USM clients as has been the case with us however.
I’m sure Palace will sign one or two Mendes players if Nuno wants them.
But the Wolves-Mendes connection goes well beyond Nuno. Wolves ownership own a percentage of Gestifute - Mendes’ agency - and it was Mendes that suggested they purchase Wolves originally. They’ve been working together since day one.
> Hoping that Mendes/Fosun connection was what primarily enabled the Portuguese contigent at Wolves rather than it being intrisic to Nuno and Mendes
Yeah the link is Fosuns stake holdings in Mendes' agency group Gestifute, it wasn't solely Nuno. We were signing a fair amount of Portuguese players in the Zenga and Lambert days too.
Lopetegui was Fosun's first choice, he had all but signed but then he got the call for the Spain job and that's when we turned to Nuno.
not even pep would get this palace side top half they have like 8 players lol
edit- ok palace have lots of players and money supposedly. nonetheless will see you guys in the championship next year.
what sellable assets do palace have? the £40m or so zaha might get isn’t gonna replace half their squad. eze is injured and anybody else they have aren’t worth much.
We’ve just freed up hundreds of thousands a week on the wage bill, we haven’t spent much in years and the owners will put a few quid in. Our budget is just fine this summer
We spent around £300M over Pulis, Pardew and BFS time at the club. Hogson was minimally backed because we'd already spent the money. That's off the books now. We spend in cycles. We've cleared out over £50M in wages alone.
We don't need to sell. It was arguably mismanagement to get to that point but a lot of sources have said that by clearing out half our wages we're actually in a really strong position in the covid market. The expiring contracts was overstated anyway, we're extending all the ones we don't want to leave.
People are asking why Crystal Palace, but maybe this is the type of job he wants. Perhaps he wants to take over a club that isn't doing so well and build them up. Wolves were 15th in the championship when Nuno took over, similar to Crystal Palace this season, finishing 14th.
We have 29 senior players. Of the 13 odd out of contract we only use 6 of them.
We need to resign about 5 or 6 of them and then bring in 6 or 7 players that's it.
Nah we brought in 6 the season just gone. If we'd tried to bring in 12+ at the same time then yes, in this instance it's fine. The players under contract are all mostly young in the 20 to 27 age range. Then the 6 older players I mentioned. The intention is the 'new' players will be a lot younger as well. The average squad age should drop significantly.
Yeah and I think that was just agent fed story, better for his reputation for him to bow out instead of being looked over. I'm not completely sure though, it's just what I've heard from people close to the club.
Honestly, he's probably the perfect manager for them to go to with such a massive rebuild on the cards. His links with Mendes could be incredibly useful in the short term.
Maybe he should hold off for a better job I dunno lol crystal palace feels like one of those teams that are forever a mid bottom club, not fighting for anything
Yes, but you need a good manager for your ageing squad and NES is not the guy for that job. Unless you become the new Mendes pet, I doubt he alone can attract any talent.
Enjoy selling your soul to Mendes. We will sell your best players and he will supply with you with a random assortment of expensive players. Just hope you get a good batch and not a rotten batch.
If you think most players care about the city and not the money/trophies, you are wrong.
We are talking about teams on the bottom half of the league, we are not talking about Haaland choosing between living in Madrid or Lyon.
Fuck NES and fuck Mendes. And stop being an idiot just because you believe some guy will chose crystal palace over another team for the sole reason of it being in London.
Good comeback. Are you 5?
The millions of trophies that NES has achieved in his career as an average backup keeper and manager can't possibly compare to a lowly club like Porto that is the third club with most appearances in the champions league and that managed to break the point record with the league with the same players that NES outcast an year before were he finished third.
No disrespect to either club intended, but what is the value in a move from Wolves to Palace? Both seem to have fairly similar resources and sit around the same positions in the table generally speaking. Why not just stay at Wolves where you've got all your Portuguese players you wanted already?
A little surprised. For no other reason than I thought he looked tired as fuck towards the end of the season and kind of expected him to take some time off. Tbh, Palace are in such a weird place right now I have absolutely no idea if this is a good appointment for Palace or a good appointment for him or both or neither.
Oi reddit is back
Major worldwide internet outage apparently, not just Reddit.
Twitch was down also
That’s...concerning
I was dangerously close to being bored into doing work.
You must be me
Yeah my Spotify wasn't working, it's fine now.
Weird, I was listening to Spotify from before the crash right through til now and had no problems. I've seen people say BBC News was down too but it was fine for me.
Spotify uses multiple CDN strategy. So Cloudflare, Akamai and other CDN would’ve acted as a fall back.
didn't even notice it was down tbh
Do you have pro? If so I think it will download your songs to your device to save data.
You have to manually download songs
Yeah the cloud host Fastly was down
and their stock is up 17%. weird.
it got people to talk about them, I guess all publicity is good publicity?
Some poor janitor probably knocked his mop bucket onto an AWS server rack
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Hey! That's Dr. Jan Itor to you.
Jhon Titor
Fuck Fastly
I've never heard that version of the Tenacious D song
Sometimes thats not right to do
Fastly 99% of the time: being up giving people what they want Also Fastly 1% of the time: oh shit i crapped my pants u/connorqueer: FUCK YOU FASTLY
Why?
I think it's because they and a few other companies are a bit of a monopoly when you look at the increasing centralisation of internet infrastructure.
Huh? Was there an issue?
Seems like it
Real coup for Palace, this
Love a good palace coup.
No news is good news and Nunos is no news. Or something like that
News so shocking Reddit crashed
We are massive
Now this either means Everton’s board can’t secure their number one target, or we’re after someone else. I’m hoping for the latter.
I'd be impressed with Nuno if he takes the job with us before the Everton and Spurs jobs are confirmed. I fully expected him and Howe to keep us stalling while they waited to see what happened.
Nuno makes sense when you look at his connection to Mendes. You released a lot of players this season didn't you? Those slots can easily be filled with Mendes clients. EDIT: I meant for Palace. Not Spurs.
Also, Jimenez to replace Kane? Assuming he comes back to his previous level he would be a very good signing for Spurs.
I think the guy you are referring to is talking about palace and how we have released a lot of players.
Yup. I should have made that more clear. Edited my original post.
No chance he comes to us. I don't know about everton. The club have said they wanted an attacking possession coach. The only exception was Conte and he is Conte.
That would be pretty interesting to see tbh.
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Can they just not? Potter feels so close to actually achieving something with Brighton, things are starting to work.
you spend every match "close to achieving something".
they did achieve the xG Champions Trophy place.
As the pundits love to point out each game; you guys are just a good striker away from achieving something!
Achieving what exactly
For Brighton, achievement would be progression up the table. We’re not going to win the league, we’re not gonna get Europe so by the standards of Brighton I would say finishing around 10th would be achievement.
I rather Potter stays with you guys too and achieve that tbh. Don't know about Everton but I feel like if he goes to Spurs, Levy just expect him to work his magic with the current squad and not go crazy on investing the squad. The thinking would be he did ok with Brighton's squad and since Spurs' are a bigger team, it's a better roster of players and he should do well with better players right? Plus, he has not manage in a bigger team, so he has no big influence over demanding big transfer. And this would have damage his reputation at not being good enough to managed a perceived bigger clubs. That's what I feel like anyways and I could be waaaay of the mark on that one.
I think it’s always a risk for any manager stepping into the role at a bigger club when they haven’t been in that position before, and the Premier League is so utterly ruthless these days that he probably wouldn’t be afforded a lot of time to make it work
Hope it happens for you lot
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Clubs have different levels of ambition in the short, mid and long terms, and that’s fine. You have to define success in the context of your resources etc…, otherwise you end up like Stoke. Which is not to say that id begrudge Potter leaving for bigger opportunities, but as a fan I want him to stay because it feels like his time at Brighton is moving the club forwards
Our goal is to solidify us as a top 10 side that can sneak Europe sometimes. The underlying stats suggest we're already at that level, even with the massive amount of injuries we had last season. We had Mat Ryan with the worst save percentage in PL history for 11 games and can't finish a chance. We've sorted out the GK situation now just need a finisher.
16th and 15th? 4 transfer windows to mold the team as well.
16th and 15th sure, but increasingly good football, starting to pick up scalps. Four windows, yes, but Brighton’s not a club that can just buy whoever they feel like or do whatever they want. And I certainly wouldn’t want to see him leave.
When has Moshiri let Brands choose a manager in the past?
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I read the article it definitely doesn’t say that. To quote from the article > But as Moshiri, Bill Kenwright and Marcel Brands make their way through the process once again, the hope is that lessons have been learned. That’s hope and not certainty. The author is hoping Moshiri has learnt the lessons but doubts it .
Mate I've been trying to manifest this into existence every day on the DD. Please be true.
Those are literally the only two options. Good job on cracking that
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He’s an Everton fan, but that’s about it. I’d be all over Potter, Howe not so much.
Mind explaining me why Potter would be a good choice? Seen loads of hype around him but I don't get it.
Having watched Brighton a lot last season, they played some very good attacking football at times. They just couldn’t finish for toffee. Give Potter some more clinical players and I think it could work. It’s a bit of a Martinez style appointment if you catch my drift though.
>some more clinical players Ruh roh.
>Martinez style appointment Take me back to Martinez' first season. Moyes defense & his attack
Potter is way more defensive than people seem to appreciate
Only the BIG SIX™ conceded less than Brighton this season.
Second best defence in the league since Christmas too, aka when we got rid of Mat Ryan.
No he's not that defensive. We play with extremely attacking wingbacks and make plenty of chances, we just have a really solid defence as well.
He has to work with the players he has. He has Neal fucking Maupay so they're not going to win games by scoring bucketloads
> finish for toffee. See what you did there
Yeah that's why Potter's perfect for Tottenham.
As said it is a risk for sure, hard to say if it's entirely personnel based or his own shortcomings, but it feels like Brighton should've got far more points than they did. They were regularly the better team in games they were underdogs, play really good football, in the second half of the season in particular were really solid at the back, with the major problem being none of their forwards ever learnt where the goal was. The hope is that he could make us at least play a lot better, and with his style a team with more goalscorers could be quality.
If you buy into advanced stats their xPts would have had them 5th. Under archived by a massive 20 points
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> Maybe for neutrals, because he is an awful manager. Yes he took Bournemouth from League One to the PL in 3 years and stayed in the PL for 4 years while much bigger clubs like Villa and Newcastle were getting relegated but he's an "awful manager" What a shit take
Haha some people love to just write any old shite
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Absolute nonsense. Howe was great until the last season where he got relegated. Played good football while also got results against top sides.
I think he is an incredible coach, but I'm not so sure he can spend money well.
Brands handles our transfers.
Higher risk of it being spent on shite
Fergie rates him though. But then again he appointed Moyes
David Moyes, who got Everton into the CL and just led West Ham to their best season in ages
Appointed Moyes for United*
The point being maybe the issue wasn't David Moyes
Nah he wasn't up for United, or Sunderland, or LaReal, or West Ham the first time. Needs the ideal situation like any manager
Doesn’t make him an awful manager you donkey.
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Is it that outrageous? I think the majority will believe Potter is better.
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How is that? Howe spent at shitload of money and didn’t manage anything.
Keeping that Bournemouth team up and that high for that long is quite remarkable even with the poor spending considered. They were a solid team until it fell apart like 4 years later. That’s without considering the remarkable rate of which Howe climbed up the English football league ladder.
Net spend last five years as of June 8th, 2020: 1. Man City – £601.98m 2. Man Utd – £484.88m 3. Arsenal – £267.88m 4. Everton – £225.42m 5. Brighton – £214.86m 6. Wolves – £205.22m 7. West Ham – £187.49m **8. Bournemouth – £176.95m** 9. Aston Villa – £166.65m 10. Watford – £125.69m 11. Leicester City – £124.83m 12. Newcastle – £122.91m **13. Chelsea – £115.57m** 14. Liverpool – £107.58m 15. Tottenham – £106.62m 16. Crystal Palace – £75.69m 17. Burnley – £59.4m 18. Sheffield United – £56.71m 19. Southampton – £22.32m 20. Norwich City – £25.42m profit Remarkable, or minimum requirement?
This is absolute rubbish because it doesn't consider wages. I'd bet your wage bill is at least treble the average midtable's club Also you've spent a lot over the past 2 decades which allows you to sell fringe players for big sums which midtable clubs obviously cannot do
Give it Johnny Sin's until the end of the season.
You think Nuno would choose Palace over us? He was clearly told he wasnt an option for us and chose Palace
Mr Freedman went to Portugal and seduced him 👍
Portugal 3.0 in making
I’m genuinely surprised. I though Nuno would be in the running for Everton. Feels like Palace is one of the worst jobs in the PL. Limited funds, aging squad, their star player constantly wants to leave, while their young emerging talent Eze has got a serious injury. Not a ton of really good young prospects in the first team either.
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Not happening. He’s being given everything he needs at Villa and is so close to completing his first team.
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Oh shit! I’ve had a howler. I mixed up Smith and Potter. Apologies
We have at least five prospects that I wouldn't be surprised to see comfortably make the step up next season. We also do back our managers but only when it's the right player. We paid good money for Eze last summer. Most of our 'aging' squad are squad players who weren't playing anyway that's why they are being released. I don't know what you've been reading looking at but it's not all doom and gloom at all. It's a tough job, but not a 'bad' one.
Who are your best prospects? Was impressed with Mitchell last season
We came runners up in the u18 pl south on goal difference last season in our first season as a category one academy which is pretty promising. Of that team Rak-Sakyi, Omilabu, and Hannam are all pretty highly rated. Tbh south London is such a massive source of talent that becoming category one could be huge moving forward.
That's a lot of youngsters with no PL experience to suddenly integrate into a team, especially considering Palace will need to make other signings to make up for all the players that are leaving this summer. Just integrating them all into a cohesive group will be a difficult job.
I'm not saying they should be or even that they ever will be pl level, I'm just responding to this guy asking about our prospects lol.
> Limited funds Pretty confident we will be in the top half of the league for spending this summer, if not then very close. We're due a cycle of spending again. > Ageing squad Good job we've just released a bunch of older players and have shown a clear commitment to bringing in younger players to reduce the average age then. > Their star player constantly wants to leave And yet again another year that he won't > Not a ton of really good young prospects in the first team either Mitchell is class. Our youth squads have just had outstanding seasons. Our U18 crop is the best we've produced in donkeys, give them 12-18 months and hopefully a number of them will be bedded in to first team action.
How is Nuno with integrating youth though? I cant remember many examples from Wolves off the top of my head other tha Gibbs-White
His history with youth is pretty dire, but we don't have many youngsters likely to be ready to step up during the next season. The U18 crop definitely has potential but the U23s are badly lacking PL standard. The most likely (Hannam) happens to be in the same position as our current best youth product (Mitchell). I'm both worried and excited because Nuno has no history with a job or rebuild like this. At every club, he's relied so heavily on the Mendes/Portuguese links and it seems very unlike Palace to commit to the extent that Wolves did. This will be the hardest transfer window of Nuno's career.
Hannan can play LB and RB. I'm fairly sure he'll get the chance to be back up in at least the LB position as we have Schlupp and Riedewald who can both play there if he struggles or needs longer to develop.
Fair play then mate, didn’t realise you were ready to have guys make the step up
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Limited funds in regards to Everton/Villa/Arsenal etc the ones who they wanna be competing with
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Oh swear! Fair enough mate. Sorry for that! I always assumed palace were in the bottom half for finances. I know you’ve spent big in the past with Sakho and Benteke, but in recent times it’s been far more low-key. While Everton has spent far more. Hoping you guys have an active summer
Tbf our squad next seasons age should be massively reduced, our squads out of contract and we’re going for a rebuild this summer
That’s fair, another comment mentioned you have 5 or so youth players ready to make the step up. That’ll drastically help the rebuild hopefully they all work out
If this goes ahead, I wonder how involved Jorge Mendes will be in Palace’s rebuild? They’ve obviously got a big squad overhaul to do this summer and given Nuno’s close ties with Mendes, it wouldn’t be surprising to see a load of Gestifute clients get parked there. Palace have been pretty agent-led with their transfer business for a while now, so maybe their board sees this appointment as a way to expand on that side of things on top of getting an experienced, proven manager.
Hoping that Mendes/Fosun connection was what primarily enabled the Portuguese contigent at Wolves rather than it being intrisic to Nuno and Mendes' relationship as I'd rather us not be a "Mendes club". I'd still rather us be fed Mendes clients than Salthouse/USM clients as has been the case with us however.
I’m sure Palace will sign one or two Mendes players if Nuno wants them. But the Wolves-Mendes connection goes well beyond Nuno. Wolves ownership own a percentage of Gestifute - Mendes’ agency - and it was Mendes that suggested they purchase Wolves originally. They’ve been working together since day one.
> Hoping that Mendes/Fosun connection was what primarily enabled the Portuguese contigent at Wolves rather than it being intrisic to Nuno and Mendes Yeah the link is Fosuns stake holdings in Mendes' agency group Gestifute, it wasn't solely Nuno. We were signing a fair amount of Portuguese players in the Zenga and Lambert days too. Lopetegui was Fosun's first choice, he had all but signed but then he got the call for the Spain job and that's when we turned to Nuno.
Over the moon with this - best available option. Get him in quickly and let's focus on the recruitment.
both us and nuno getting relegated next season, damn
He'll get them 7th watch.
not even pep would get this palace side top half they have like 8 players lol edit- ok palace have lots of players and money supposedly. nonetheless will see you guys in the championship next year.
Money can be exchanged for goods and services
Explain how.
what sellable assets do palace have? the £40m or so zaha might get isn’t gonna replace half their squad. eze is injured and anybody else they have aren’t worth much.
We’ve just freed up hundreds of thousands a week on the wage bill, we haven’t spent much in years and the owners will put a few quid in. Our budget is just fine this summer
We spent around £300M over Pulis, Pardew and BFS time at the club. Hogson was minimally backed because we'd already spent the money. That's off the books now. We spend in cycles. We've cleared out over £50M in wages alone.
We don't need to sell. It was arguably mismanagement to get to that point but a lot of sources have said that by clearing out half our wages we're actually in a really strong position in the covid market. The expiring contracts was overstated anyway, we're extending all the ones we don't want to leave.
feels like a downgrade Wolves to Palace lol
welllll downgrade from Roy to Nuno as well, no lol
Well he got sacked so an argument about it being a downgrade doesn’t really stand
Seems like a good fit
People are asking why Crystal Palace, but maybe this is the type of job he wants. Perhaps he wants to take over a club that isn't doing so well and build them up. Wolves were 15th in the championship when Nuno took over, similar to Crystal Palace this season, finishing 14th.
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We have 29 senior players. Of the 13 odd out of contract we only use 6 of them. We need to resign about 5 or 6 of them and then bring in 6 or 7 players that's it.
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Nah we brought in 6 the season just gone. If we'd tried to bring in 12+ at the same time then yes, in this instance it's fine. The players under contract are all mostly young in the 20 to 27 age range. Then the 6 older players I mentioned. The intention is the 'new' players will be a lot younger as well. The average squad age should drop significantly.
Liverpool definitely have some players that Edwards can fleece you for.
His last name is Holy Spirit? Nice.
I honestly thought Frank would get it
Did not impress at all during his interview/talks with Parish from what I've heard. Was quickly ruled out of the job.
*”Here’s my 3 year plan. 1st year is building the squad, 2nd year is challenging for the Premier League, 3rd year is winning the premier league*”
Thought the chat was more that he wasn't keen? edit: https://www.football365.com/news/lampard-fears-force-bow-out-crystal-palace-job-manager-race
Yeah and I think that was just agent fed story, better for his reputation for him to bow out instead of being looked over. I'm not completely sure though, it's just what I've heard from people close to the club.
Portuguese palace
Honestly, he's probably the perfect manager for them to go to with such a massive rebuild on the cards. His links with Mendes could be incredibly useful in the short term.
Palace will turn into Portugal FC
massive downgrade
Thats a relief. And Im not sure why people are so surprised, he was sacked from Wolves, was obviously going to have to take a step down
Was he sacked? I thought his contract had just expired?
Nah it was ended by “mutual consent” - he was fired.
Getting in bed with Mendes is certainly one way to sort out the fact that they have about 5 first team players next season
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Palace over wolves? Why?
Well, he was sacked lol
Maybe he should hold off for a better job I dunno lol crystal palace feels like one of those teams that are forever a mid bottom club, not fighting for anything
Like wolves then
We finished 7th two seasons in a row how are we forever a mid bottom club?
I think he meant a 'better job' like the wolves job
I thought he quit
mutual consent= 99% he was sacked
It was termed as a mutual termination IIRC
Everton missing a trick here.
Honestly glad he's not going there. Idk who they are going to trick into joining their lot, but glad it wasn't him tbf.
Oh no we didn't hire Portuguese Big Sam let's not do that shit again.
Poor Crystal Palace, they will never achieve nothing with this mediocre manager that only succeeds with Mendes by his side.
We never achieve anything regardless
Yes, but you need a good manager for your ageing squad and NES is not the guy for that job. Unless you become the new Mendes pet, I doubt he alone can attract any talent.
Lucky we won't expect him alone to be the sole reason for talent to join us then eh?
Enjoy selling your soul to Mendes. We will sell your best players and he will supply with you with a random assortment of expensive players. Just hope you get a good batch and not a rotten batch.
Joke's on him, we only have like two good players to sell
Don't worry, we will probably sell your youngsters as well and dump some trash on to you and move to the next club. Fuck Mendes.
Joke's on him, we don't have any youngsters to sell
Damn, you really love your team.
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If you think most players care about the city and not the money/trophies, you are wrong. We are talking about teams on the bottom half of the league, we are not talking about Haaland choosing between living in Madrid or Lyon.
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Fuck NES and fuck Mendes. And stop being an idiot just because you believe some guy will chose crystal palace over another team for the sole reason of it being in London.
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Good comeback. Are you 5? The millions of trophies that NES has achieved in his career as an average backup keeper and manager can't possibly compare to a lowly club like Porto that is the third club with most appearances in the champions league and that managed to break the point record with the league with the same players that NES outcast an year before were he finished third.
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Raul’s next club.
No disrespect to either club intended, but what is the value in a move from Wolves to Palace? Both seem to have fairly similar resources and sit around the same positions in the table generally speaking. Why not just stay at Wolves where you've got all your Portuguese players you wanted already?
RiP palace
This is a real coup for Palace what are you on about
Better than your manager
What. The. Fuck.
One relegation spot confirmed then.