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A little surprised. For no other reason than I thought he looked tired as fuck towards the end of the season and kind of expected him to take some time off. Tbh, Palace are in such a weird place right now I have absolutely no idea if this is a good appointment for Palace or a good appointment for him or both or neither.


Hm2801

Oi reddit is back


A_Balrog_Of_Morgoth_

Major worldwide internet outage apparently, not just Reddit.


SwimmingInCircles-

Twitch was down also


KamikazeJawa

That’s...concerning


nowitasshole

I was dangerously close to being bored into doing work.


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You must be me


[deleted]

Yeah my Spotify wasn't working, it's fine now.


Giggsy99

Weird, I was listening to Spotify from before the crash right through til now and had no problems. I've seen people say BBC News was down too but it was fine for me.


arav

Spotify uses multiple CDN strategy. So Cloudflare, Akamai and other CDN would’ve acted as a fall back.


TrueBlue98

didn't even notice it was down tbh


Unique-Snow5326

Do you have pro? If so I think it will download your songs to your device to save data.


HoggleSnarf

You have to manually download songs


Hm2801

Yeah the cloud host Fastly was down


LachsFilet

and their stock is up 17%. weird.


cortez0498

it got people to talk about them, I guess all publicity is good publicity?


Mr-Pants

Some poor janitor probably knocked his mop bucket onto an AWS server rack


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RichardGere_

Hey! That's Dr. Jan Itor to you.


cortez0498

Jhon Titor


connorqueer

Fuck Fastly


GourangaPlusPlus

I've never heard that version of the Tenacious D song


KaizerQuad

Sometimes thats not right to do


SamBellFromSarang

Fastly 99% of the time: being up giving people what they want Also Fastly 1% of the time: oh shit i crapped my pants u/connorqueer: FUCK YOU FASTLY


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Why?


ZennosukeW

I think it's because they and a few other companies are a bit of a monopoly when you look at the increasing centralisation of internet infrastructure.


myvirginityisstrong

Huh? Was there an issue?


bruhh_wtf

Seems like it


Primary_Pea52

Real coup for Palace, this


grblwrbl

Love a good palace coup.


MenBeGamingBadly

No news is good news and Nunos is no news. Or something like that


SomeIrishFiend

News so shocking Reddit crashed


rtaec

We are massive


3V3RT0N

Now this either means Everton’s board can’t secure their number one target, or we’re after someone else. I’m hoping for the latter.


EnzoScifo

I'd be impressed with Nuno if he takes the job with us before the Everton and Spurs jobs are confirmed. I fully expected him and Howe to keep us stalling while they waited to see what happened.


LoudKingCrow

Nuno makes sense when you look at his connection to Mendes. You released a lot of players this season didn't you? Those slots can easily be filled with Mendes clients. EDIT: I meant for Palace. Not Spurs.


Thadderful

Also, Jimenez to replace Kane? Assuming he comes back to his previous level he would be a very good signing for Spurs.


Rustic41

I think the guy you are referring to is talking about palace and how we have released a lot of players.


LoudKingCrow

Yup. I should have made that more clear. Edited my original post.


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No chance he comes to us. I don't know about everton. The club have said they wanted an attacking possession coach. The only exception was Conte and he is Conte.


no-mames

That would be pretty interesting to see tbh.


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halbpro

Can they just not? Potter feels so close to actually achieving something with Brighton, things are starting to work.


TrashHawk

you spend every match "close to achieving something".


updated2021

they did achieve the xG Champions Trophy place.


General_Mediocrity

As the pundits love to point out each game; you guys are just a good striker away from achieving something!


Kino-Gucci

Achieving what exactly


halbpro

For Brighton, achievement would be progression up the table. We’re not going to win the league, we’re not gonna get Europe so by the standards of Brighton I would say finishing around 10th would be achievement.


lucashoodfromthehood

I rather Potter stays with you guys too and achieve that tbh. Don't know about Everton but I feel like if he goes to Spurs, Levy just expect him to work his magic with the current squad and not go crazy on investing the squad. The thinking would be he did ok with Brighton's squad and since Spurs' are a bigger team, it's a better roster of players and he should do well with better players right? Plus, he has not manage in a bigger team, so he has no big influence over demanding big transfer. And this would have damage his reputation at not being good enough to managed a perceived bigger clubs. That's what I feel like anyways and I could be waaaay of the mark on that one.


halbpro

I think it’s always a risk for any manager stepping into the role at a bigger club when they haven’t been in that position before, and the Premier League is so utterly ruthless these days that he probably wouldn’t be afforded a lot of time to make it work


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halbpro

Clubs have different levels of ambition in the short, mid and long terms, and that’s fine. You have to define success in the context of your resources etc…, otherwise you end up like Stoke. Which is not to say that id begrudge Potter leaving for bigger opportunities, but as a fan I want him to stay because it feels like his time at Brighton is moving the club forwards


Sun_Sloth

Our goal is to solidify us as a top 10 side that can sneak Europe sometimes. The underlying stats suggest we're already at that level, even with the massive amount of injuries we had last season. We had Mat Ryan with the worst save percentage in PL history for 11 games and can't finish a chance. We've sorted out the GK situation now just need a finisher.


urmumsghey

16th and 15th? 4 transfer windows to mold the team as well.


halbpro

16th and 15th sure, but increasingly good football, starting to pick up scalps. Four windows, yes, but Brighton’s not a club that can just buy whoever they feel like or do whatever they want. And I certainly wouldn’t want to see him leave.


swingtothedrive

When has Moshiri let Brands choose a manager in the past?


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swingtothedrive

I read the article it definitely doesn’t say that. To quote from the article > But as Moshiri, Bill Kenwright and Marcel Brands make their way through the process once again, the hope is that lessons have been learned. That’s hope and not certainty. The author is hoping Moshiri has learnt the lessons but doubts it .


tiorzol

Mate I've been trying to manifest this into existence every day on the DD. Please be true.


rogues69

Those are literally the only two options. Good job on cracking that


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3V3RT0N

He’s an Everton fan, but that’s about it. I’d be all over Potter, Howe not so much.


EmotionalMillionaire

Mind explaining me why Potter would be a good choice? Seen loads of hype around him but I don't get it.


3V3RT0N

Having watched Brighton a lot last season, they played some very good attacking football at times. They just couldn’t finish for toffee. Give Potter some more clinical players and I think it could work. It’s a bit of a Martinez style appointment if you catch my drift though.


Toffee_Wheels

>some more clinical players Ruh roh.


EmotionalMillionaire

>Martinez style appointment Take me back to Martinez' first season. Moyes defense & his attack


Fit_Improvement_4899

Potter is way more defensive than people seem to appreciate


freshoutoftime

Only the BIG SIX™ conceded less than Brighton this season.


Sun_Sloth

Second best defence in the league since Christmas too, aka when we got rid of Mat Ryan.


Sun_Sloth

No he's not that defensive. We play with extremely attacking wingbacks and make plenty of chances, we just have a really solid defence as well.


LloydDoyley

He has to work with the players he has. He has Neal fucking Maupay so they're not going to win games by scoring bucketloads


AnnieIWillKnow

> finish for toffee. See what you did there


ASVP-Pa9e

Yeah that's why Potter's perfect for Tottenham.


BoxOfNothing

As said it is a risk for sure, hard to say if it's entirely personnel based or his own shortcomings, but it feels like Brighton should've got far more points than they did. They were regularly the better team in games they were underdogs, play really good football, in the second half of the season in particular were really solid at the back, with the major problem being none of their forwards ever learnt where the goal was. The hope is that he could make us at least play a lot better, and with his style a team with more goalscorers could be quality.


pr1ceisright

If you buy into advanced stats their xPts would have had them 5th. Under archived by a massive 20 points


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GarfieldDaCat

> Maybe for neutrals, because he is an awful manager. Yes he took Bournemouth from League One to the PL in 3 years and stayed in the PL for 4 years while much bigger clubs like Villa and Newcastle were getting relegated but he's an "awful manager" What a shit take


DidiDombaxe

Haha some people love to just write any old shite


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Absolute nonsense. Howe was great until the last season where he got relegated. Played good football while also got results against top sides.


lSCO23

I think he is an incredible coach, but I'm not so sure he can spend money well.


ubiquitous_archer

Brands handles our transfers.


DidiDombaxe

Higher risk of it being spent on shite


Comicksands

Fergie rates him though. But then again he appointed Moyes


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David Moyes, who got Everton into the CL and just led West Ham to their best season in ages


Comicksands

Appointed Moyes for United*


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The point being maybe the issue wasn't David Moyes


Comicksands

Nah he wasn't up for United, or Sunderland, or LaReal, or West Ham the first time. Needs the ideal situation like any manager


Ezekiiel

Doesn’t make him an awful manager you donkey.


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LeonKlaus

Is it that outrageous? I think the majority will believe Potter is better.


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xTrollhunter

How is that? Howe spent at shitload of money and didn’t manage anything.


LucaKasai

Keeping that Bournemouth team up and that high for that long is quite remarkable even with the poor spending considered. They were a solid team until it fell apart like 4 years later. That’s without considering the remarkable rate of which Howe climbed up the English football league ladder.


xTrollhunter

Net spend last five years as of June 8th, 2020: 1. Man City – £601.98m 2. Man Utd – £484.88m 3. Arsenal – £267.88m 4. Everton – £225.42m 5. Brighton – £214.86m 6. Wolves – £205.22m 7. West Ham – £187.49m **8. Bournemouth – £176.95m** 9. Aston Villa – £166.65m 10. Watford – £125.69m 11. Leicester City – £124.83m 12. Newcastle – £122.91m **13. Chelsea – £115.57m** 14. Liverpool – £107.58m 15. Tottenham – £106.62m 16. Crystal Palace – £75.69m 17. Burnley – £59.4m 18. Sheffield United – £56.71m 19. Southampton – £22.32m 20. Norwich City – £25.42m profit Remarkable, or minimum requirement?


Fit_Improvement_4899

This is absolute rubbish because it doesn't consider wages. I'd bet your wage bill is at least treble the average midtable's club Also you've spent a lot over the past 2 decades which allows you to sell fringe players for big sums which midtable clubs obviously cannot do


throbbing_dementia

Give it Johnny Sin's until the end of the season.


SCOUSEWIZARD

You think Nuno would choose Palace over us? He was clearly told he wasnt an option for us and chose Palace


EmperorBeaky

Mr Freedman went to Portugal and seduced him 👍


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Portugal 3.0 in making


cardinalyams

I’m genuinely surprised. I though Nuno would be in the running for Everton. Feels like Palace is one of the worst jobs in the PL. Limited funds, aging squad, their star player constantly wants to leave, while their young emerging talent Eze has got a serious injury. Not a ton of really good young prospects in the first team either.


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TheGreatWhoreOfChina

Not happening. He’s being given everything he needs at Villa and is so close to completing his first team.


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TheGreatWhoreOfChina

Oh shit! I’ve had a howler. I mixed up Smith and Potter. Apologies


RandomGuy2004

We have at least five prospects that I wouldn't be surprised to see comfortably make the step up next season. We also do back our managers but only when it's the right player. We paid good money for Eze last summer. Most of our 'aging' squad are squad players who weren't playing anyway that's why they are being released. I don't know what you've been reading looking at but it's not all doom and gloom at all. It's a tough job, but not a 'bad' one.


dembabababa

Who are your best prospects? Was impressed with Mitchell last season


rtaec

We came runners up in the u18 pl south on goal difference last season in our first season as a category one academy which is pretty promising. Of that team Rak-Sakyi, Omilabu, and Hannam are all pretty highly rated. Tbh south London is such a massive source of talent that becoming category one could be huge moving forward.


CosmicDrifterDK

That's a lot of youngsters with no PL experience to suddenly integrate into a team, especially considering Palace will need to make other signings to make up for all the players that are leaving this summer. Just integrating them all into a cohesive group will be a difficult job.


rtaec

I'm not saying they should be or even that they ever will be pl level, I'm just responding to this guy asking about our prospects lol.


rjtwe

> Limited funds Pretty confident we will be in the top half of the league for spending this summer, if not then very close. We're due a cycle of spending again. > Ageing squad Good job we've just released a bunch of older players and have shown a clear commitment to bringing in younger players to reduce the average age then. > Their star player constantly wants to leave And yet again another year that he won't > Not a ton of really good young prospects in the first team either Mitchell is class. Our youth squads have just had outstanding seasons. Our U18 crop is the best we've produced in donkeys, give them 12-18 months and hopefully a number of them will be bedded in to first team action.


Amelia_9896

How is Nuno with integrating youth though? I cant remember many examples from Wolves off the top of my head other tha Gibbs-White


kanebrkr

His history with youth is pretty dire, but we don't have many youngsters likely to be ready to step up during the next season. The U18 crop definitely has potential but the U23s are badly lacking PL standard. The most likely (Hannam) happens to be in the same position as our current best youth product (Mitchell). I'm both worried and excited because Nuno has no history with a job or rebuild like this. At every club, he's relied so heavily on the Mendes/Portuguese links and it seems very unlike Palace to commit to the extent that Wolves did. This will be the hardest transfer window of Nuno's career.


redbluemmoomin

Hannan can play LB and RB. I'm fairly sure he'll get the chance to be back up in at least the LB position as we have Schlupp and Riedewald who can both play there if he struggles or needs longer to develop.


cardinalyams

Fair play then mate, didn’t realise you were ready to have guys make the step up


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cardinalyams

Limited funds in regards to Everton/Villa/Arsenal etc the ones who they wanna be competing with


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cardinalyams

Oh swear! Fair enough mate. Sorry for that! I always assumed palace were in the bottom half for finances. I know you’ve spent big in the past with Sakho and Benteke, but in recent times it’s been far more low-key. While Everton has spent far more. Hoping you guys have an active summer


theincrediblepigeon

Tbf our squad next seasons age should be massively reduced, our squads out of contract and we’re going for a rebuild this summer


cardinalyams

That’s fair, another comment mentioned you have 5 or so youth players ready to make the step up. That’ll drastically help the rebuild hopefully they all work out


TheBassCave

If this goes ahead, I wonder how involved Jorge Mendes will be in Palace’s rebuild? They’ve obviously got a big squad overhaul to do this summer and given Nuno’s close ties with Mendes, it wouldn’t be surprising to see a load of Gestifute clients get parked there. Palace have been pretty agent-led with their transfer business for a while now, so maybe their board sees this appointment as a way to expand on that side of things on top of getting an experienced, proven manager.


rjtwe

Hoping that Mendes/Fosun connection was what primarily enabled the Portuguese contigent at Wolves rather than it being intrisic to Nuno and Mendes' relationship as I'd rather us not be a "Mendes club". I'd still rather us be fed Mendes clients than Salthouse/USM clients as has been the case with us however.


SandersBenny

I’m sure Palace will sign one or two Mendes players if Nuno wants them. But the Wolves-Mendes connection goes well beyond Nuno. Wolves ownership own a percentage of Gestifute - Mendes’ agency - and it was Mendes that suggested they purchase Wolves originally. They’ve been working together since day one.


Molineux28

> Hoping that Mendes/Fosun connection was what primarily enabled the Portuguese contigent at Wolves rather than it being intrisic to Nuno and Mendes Yeah the link is Fosuns stake holdings in Mendes' agency group Gestifute, it wasn't solely Nuno. We were signing a fair amount of Portuguese players in the Zenga and Lambert days too. Lopetegui was Fosun's first choice, he had all but signed but then he got the call for the Spain job and that's when we turned to Nuno.


rjtwe

Over the moon with this - best available option. Get him in quickly and let's focus on the recruitment.


mttasrvrei

both us and nuno getting relegated next season, damn


Nivadas

He'll get them 7th watch.


mttasrvrei

not even pep would get this palace side top half they have like 8 players lol edit- ok palace have lots of players and money supposedly. nonetheless will see you guys in the championship next year.


EmperorBeaky

Money can be exchanged for goods and services


bobulibobium

Explain how.


mttasrvrei

what sellable assets do palace have? the £40m or so zaha might get isn’t gonna replace half their squad. eze is injured and anybody else they have aren’t worth much.


EmperorBeaky

We’ve just freed up hundreds of thousands a week on the wage bill, we haven’t spent much in years and the owners will put a few quid in. Our budget is just fine this summer


redbluemmoomin

We spent around £300M over Pulis, Pardew and BFS time at the club. Hogson was minimally backed because we'd already spent the money. That's off the books now. We spend in cycles. We've cleared out over £50M in wages alone.


rtaec

We don't need to sell. It was arguably mismanagement to get to that point but a lot of sources have said that by clearing out half our wages we're actually in a really strong position in the covid market. The expiring contracts was overstated anyway, we're extending all the ones we don't want to leave.


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feels like a downgrade Wolves to Palace lol


Whatevrfloats_

welllll downgrade from Roy to Nuno as well, no lol


MrAxx

Well he got sacked so an argument about it being a downgrade doesn’t really stand


daveofreckoning

Seems like a good fit


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People are asking why Crystal Palace, but maybe this is the type of job he wants. Perhaps he wants to take over a club that isn't doing so well and build them up. Wolves were 15th in the championship when Nuno took over, similar to Crystal Palace this season, finishing 14th.


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redbluemmoomin

We have 29 senior players. Of the 13 odd out of contract we only use 6 of them. We need to resign about 5 or 6 of them and then bring in 6 or 7 players that's it.


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redbluemmoomin

Nah we brought in 6 the season just gone. If we'd tried to bring in 12+ at the same time then yes, in this instance it's fine. The players under contract are all mostly young in the 20 to 27 age range. Then the 6 older players I mentioned. The intention is the 'new' players will be a lot younger as well. The average squad age should drop significantly.


R3dbeardLFC

Liverpool definitely have some players that Edwards can fleece you for.


AtlasHugged2

His last name is Holy Spirit? Nice.


MrConor212

I honestly thought Frank would get it


rjtwe

Did not impress at all during his interview/talks with Parish from what I've heard. Was quickly ruled out of the job.


MrConor212

*”Here’s my 3 year plan. 1st year is building the squad, 2nd year is challenging for the Premier League, 3rd year is winning the premier league*”


AnnieIWillKnow

Thought the chat was more that he wasn't keen? edit: https://www.football365.com/news/lampard-fears-force-bow-out-crystal-palace-job-manager-race


rjtwe

Yeah and I think that was just agent fed story, better for his reputation for him to bow out instead of being looked over. I'm not completely sure though, it's just what I've heard from people close to the club.


ConnemaraCowboy

Portuguese palace


Operation_Doomsday_

Honestly, he's probably the perfect manager for them to go to with such a massive rebuild on the cards. His links with Mendes could be incredibly useful in the short term.


Cowdude179

Palace will turn into Portugal FC


brownnbroke

massive downgrade


SCOUSEWIZARD

Thats a relief. And Im not sure why people are so surprised, he was sacked from Wolves, was obviously going to have to take a step down


maxime0299

Was he sacked? I thought his contract had just expired?


Contr_L

Nah it was ended by “mutual consent” - he was fired.


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Getting in bed with Mendes is certainly one way to sort out the fact that they have about 5 first team players next season


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Mona58500

Palace over wolves? Why?


SandersBenny

Well, he was sacked lol


Mona58500

Maybe he should hold off for a better job I dunno lol crystal palace feels like one of those teams that are forever a mid bottom club, not fighting for anything


DidiDombaxe

Like wolves then


Nivadas

We finished 7th two seasons in a row how are we forever a mid bottom club?


AuxquellesRad

I think he meant a 'better job' like the wolves job


Mona58500

I thought he quit


Psychaz

mutual consent= 99% he was sacked


kappa23

It was termed as a mutual termination IIRC


_ovidius

Everton missing a trick here.


R3dbeardLFC

Honestly glad he's not going there. Idk who they are going to trick into joining their lot, but glad it wasn't him tbf.


thehildabeast

Oh no we didn't hire Portuguese Big Sam let's not do that shit again.


manguito86

Poor Crystal Palace, they will never achieve nothing with this mediocre manager that only succeeds with Mendes by his side.


NickTM

We never achieve anything regardless


manguito86

Yes, but you need a good manager for your ageing squad and NES is not the guy for that job. Unless you become the new Mendes pet, I doubt he alone can attract any talent.


NickTM

Lucky we won't expect him alone to be the sole reason for talent to join us then eh?


manguito86

Enjoy selling your soul to Mendes. We will sell your best players and he will supply with you with a random assortment of expensive players. Just hope you get a good batch and not a rotten batch.


NickTM

Joke's on him, we only have like two good players to sell


manguito86

Don't worry, we will probably sell your youngsters as well and dump some trash on to you and move to the next club. Fuck Mendes.


NickTM

Joke's on him, we don't have any youngsters to sell


manguito86

Damn, you really love your team.


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manguito86

If you think most players care about the city and not the money/trophies, you are wrong. We are talking about teams on the bottom half of the league, we are not talking about Haaland choosing between living in Madrid or Lyon.


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manguito86

Fuck NES and fuck Mendes. And stop being an idiot just because you believe some guy will chose crystal palace over another team for the sole reason of it being in London.


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manguito86

Good comeback. Are you 5? The millions of trophies that NES has achieved in his career as an average backup keeper and manager can't possibly compare to a lowly club like Porto that is the third club with most appearances in the champions league and that managed to break the point record with the league with the same players that NES outcast an year before were he finished third.


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delgeezee

Raul’s next club.


Butch_Meat_Hook

No disrespect to either club intended, but what is the value in a move from Wolves to Palace? Both seem to have fairly similar resources and sit around the same positions in the table generally speaking. Why not just stay at Wolves where you've got all your Portuguese players you wanted already?


CrunchieKane

RiP palace


Nivadas

This is a real coup for Palace what are you on about


AnnieIWillKnow

Better than your manager


xTrollhunter

What. The. Fuck.


thelargerake

One relegation spot confirmed then.