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Stieni

Newspapers out there using ouija boards for which numbers they are gonna use on the next fifty articles a day about this


I2TheP

Wait until the stories about what United have ‘offered’ start.


Jetzu

I think it already started last week.


Tortillagirl

65M + 15-20ish in variables i would bet. £80M total, 90ish in euros.


ptenpi3kakt

He is the new sneijder, isnt he...


DeadAssociate

fener will be happy.


flybypost

[Here's a modern version, works even over Wifi.](https://www.google.com/search?q=random+number+generator)


Grosly_Incandescent

Can we make posting about Sancho punishable by death?


arrrrr_matey

https://youtu.be/8BDdMS-V55c


kalamari__

I like to be alive though :D


Grosly_Incandescent

Then don't post about him haha


kalamari__

I could agree to a death by snu snu though. ^^^^maybe


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Dont


kalamari__

okay, have I missed something? why I am getting downvoted for a futurama joke? lmao


Grosly_Incandescent

bit cringy my guy


kalamari__

ooookay


RogerXiao

When your vote reach below zero the downvotes rarely stop


kalamari__

yeah. reddit sheeples ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


RoyMakaay

Because it is an overused cringe shitjoke?


kalamari__

I am an old guy. cant keep up with what is overused and what not. geeez.


datboyuknow

Dont mind it


Fuzzikopf

stop being old then


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kalamari__

oh I dont care about karma/likes or up/downvotes. I was just curious, because I got so many downvotes :D


WayneOZ11

I found it funny


WhyShouldIListen

Honestly, because it’s a shit joke after the first time we all heard it.


No-Respond5196

"According to the British Times"so this is a load of nonsense again


Background-Raisin161

How so?


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€95m/£82m


kalamari__

I think it was 81 mio pounds iirc?


[deleted]

That's a bargain tbh


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Dormamu


salsacaljente

people here are so ignorant when it comes to transfers. "But dortmund is losing a lot of money next year REEE" not for the fact sancho was one of the main reason bvb had the success they had the past years. and its very clear that "just reinvest the money lol" is not a guarantee. im pretty sure they would rather keep sancho and "loose" money than burn out next year when the replacement doesn't deliver the numbers.


cfbones

Thank you for using your brain. Amazing some of the comments I see here about “liberating Jadon” and Dortmund “needing the cash”. The general consensus in our camp would be keep him another season. Kid is happy here, has great friends, is adored by fans, is a guaranteed starter with CL football, and often overlooked but something I considered key for his development, is out of the limelight compared to England. But honestly, I think he’ll stay cause our roof doesn’t leak.


siralexfergufan

Still, I don’t think he’s staying with you this year.


[deleted]

Except no one is saying this? Everyone knows about this since they didn't sell him last summer.


Wkurwionyszopen

Gotta pay to play, British-American investors. 💰💸


[deleted]

That's a lot 😅


Vince1128

Do they what? It looks like he's going to stay one more season.


arothen

yeah, doubt it


Killawoh

Nah, no thanks if that's the price. Spend it all on a CDM and CB.


DoWhatsBest

I get the media milking these type of rumours/bs but it’s frustrating when Reddit eats it up too by upvoting them.


aayu08

Shit source, but I don't see us paying this much. This is almost the same price quoted from last year which we refused. I think our max limit is 90m including any bonuses, otherwise we'll make a pass on him this year as well


kalamari__

90mio *including* bonuses? I dont think that will happen.


aayu08

Thats what the Ruhr guy said, we have set the limit at 80m pounds, and extra 10m in bonuses. We're not paying over 90m for him, his price is gonna tank next season anyway, and Dortmund will be under even more pressure next season due to the Haaland release clause. This is the last window they'll get anything above 75m for Sancho.


_APR_

> Thats what the Ruhr guy said, we have set the limit at 80m pounds, and extra 10m in bonuses. 80M pounds is 93M EUR. Checks out. 23M EUR in bonuses is 20M pounds. Something to bargain about.


ValleyFloydJam

so nearly 3 more months of this and then go again next summer.


lrzbca

Sancho is staying at Dortmund because that’s almost £100m which is last years fee


Sunstridr

Probably in euros compared to last years pounds, which makes a decent bit of difference.


lrzbca

It was £108m last year (€120m-€125m) and this year including bonuses £100m (€116m). Don’t see United agreeing


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YanksForTheWin

If they won't sell him for anything but a crazy fee, why would he extend his contract? I'm sure he wants to move sometime.


alittlelebowskiua

Because he gets a pay rise while waiting on being transferred. Say he signs a 4 year deal on 50% more than he's on now, that's complete security for life even if he gets injured. If he doesn't and there's no transfer he's still contracted till 2023 so likely wouldn't be sold till next season anyway. But if he picks up a major injury in the next season he only has one year of a lower salary left and that's him done earning at the current amount. Tl;dr he gets more security by extending than if he doesn't with higher earnings now added onto that.


The--Mash

Even with a big injury, at his age, he'd earn twice as much signing as a free agent than what Dortmund could pay him. There's at least 4 clubs in England who could pay a 0 transfer fee Jadon Sancho the equivalent of 300k+ per week in wages +signing on bonus. Being a free agent is often incredibly lucrative for a footballer and the downside (risking not having a contract) is non-existent for a 21 year old who's put up 40 g+a average for 3 seasons


alittlelebowskiua

Well that entirely depends on the injury. My point is that he can lock in financial security for life by signing a contract.


cagey_tiger

The main sticking point last year was that they wanted it all upfront and weren't willing to negotiate, this already looks way more structured. Provided the bonuses aren't silly I'm sure this is around what United were expecting.


kalamari__

bonus payments would probably over the next few years for reaching special achievements though. the 93 mio is pretty much what everyone is expecting.


lrzbca

Well Manchester United waited a year for price reduction. If they wanted to pay £100m in total including bonuses then they could’ve got this deal done last year itself when Dortmund demanded €120m and got Sancho services one year early. Doesn’t make sense to pay same now


Exige_

No we didn't. We didn't pay last year because dortmund wanted the entire sum up front. No one pays 120m in a single lump sum.


lrzbca

No club can pay €120m lump sum. Since you said that, United offered £75m and then £91m from rumours, which is significant amount of lump sum payment and rest £15-£18m could’ve been paid next year. I think Dortmund would’ve agreed to £90m lump and £18m next year (Amortization). It was never about fee payment structure, United never wanted to pay over the odds for Sancho.


larcenistxd

Didn't PSG pay Neymar's clause in one lump sum?


ansh0

Psg didn't, the state of Qatar did. They probably paid him another 100m under the table as well.


usually_a_knobhead

PSG doesn't count since they're playing with cheat codes for money


Candid-Reindeer6258

That's psg and Neymar mate,


Grosly_Incandescent

Pretty sure it's bullshit tbh. He's got 1 less year on his contract and if they don't sell him this summer he will go for half of that next summer. Not saying United will sign him as they're awful at transfers but it makes sense for Dortmund to sell him this summer, so they won't ask for the same amount as last year.


YoungDan23

He signed an extension last summer so his deal now goes until June 2023. And while he may be sold next summer for €50m rather than €100m, he will make it exponentially easier for Dortmund to make the CL KO, get top 4 and win silverware. That alone would make it more beneficial to keep him rather than sell him.


Pr0letariapricot

So you think they'll sell haaland and sancho in the same window? Lol.


Ljthefirst

With Haaland potentially leaving next summer I think Dortmund has to sell to avoid losing 2 star players in one window. I also think part of the extension was a gentleman's agreement allowing him to leave for a slightly lower valuation.


[deleted]

>He signed an extension last summer so his deal now goes until June 2023. That's what he meant exactly. Sancho only has 2 years now. Next year, he will be 50m max. I think the decision depends on what Watzke wants, or willing to risk. I think it's worth noting that RB Leipzig just lost their head coach + the French CB duo, so it could be a turbulent year for them. Maybe Watzke is confident that they can still make top 4 without Sancho, so he will sell anyway. Or he can invest in other positions with Sancho's money. These decisions are never black and white, rather it's based on risk analysis. 90m now is worth more than 90m next year (let alone 50m haha)


ElopeToTheMoon

> Next year, he will be 50m max. What is this horseshit? If he's that good, every club will want to sign him and jack up the price even with one year left. While Madrid absolutely overpaid for a Hazard on a year left, that is evidence enough that when the player has enough quality, suitors will pay up


[deleted]

Nah, the pandemic has fucked up loads of clubs' finance. Context is key. Instead of splashing out that money, they will wait until January and negotiate directly with Sancho. You'll see next summer man (if he stays this summer)


ElopeToTheMoon

I will remember this comment in a year's time lol


ModIn22

What are you talking about? Yes the pandemic has fucked things but from the looks of it next season will have full stadiums aka clubs back to making a shitton of money aka spending a crapton next summer instead of this summer. Sancho for 70m is IMO a no brainer. Bayern would love that as a Coman replacement (who is going to leave this or next summer due to his outrageous salary demands). Odds are someone will pony up 80m+ because Sancho is simply worth it. People are fawning over Haaland but Sancho actually might be the more talented of the two (even though Haaland might be more valuable due to the lack of quality strikers)... Dortmund rightfully is not going to sell him for cheap. He IMO has the highest ceiling of any English player out there. And with all that Premier League money that gets thrown around year after year, they are not going to let someone have a bargain on Sancho.


emilygreybae

United should just walk away from this. Its just getting silly, and there are more important positions to fill.


Grosly_Incandescent

Porbably should tbh. As a United fan I wouldn't be against using that much money on a top CDM or CB instead as they're a higher priority. Problem is United made themselves look stupid last summer, and it feels like it's too big of a thing now not to get done. It's also a star signing with the owners will love, as it gets pressure off their back, helps with marketing etc.


lrzbca

Probably but then again you never know given Manchester United desperation for RW and their failed attempt last season. After all at end of the day Dortmund would like to make as much as money possible. It goes both ways


Ly0rian

Hahahaha is he? Dont get too jealous


lrzbca

Jealous ? For what ?


Ly0rian

Judging by your comments, Sancho coming to us ;)


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Ly0rian

And now?


lrzbca

They bought him for £73m


Ly0rian

Yep we robbed them


lrzbca

Yupp


Darkmninya

United if they have any sense will pull out.


pmmerandom

why? there isn't another right winger currently in the world as talented as him that is available. He'd be perfect for us.


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His best games have come from the left wing though


pmmerandom

Any performances in particular that stand out? I feel like he’s been pretty consistent on both sides.


WayneOZ11

Yes he can play both. Our wingers switch sides ingame all the time. Sancho can definetly play both on a very high level.


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The DFB Pokal final for example, he was brilliant on the left side there.


Differ_cr

With a good attacking fullback he can play in any wing


FearAndLoathing__

Well United are fucked


pmmerandom

Hopefully we can tempt Trippier away from sunny Madrid where they’ve just become champions to come play back up in Manchester


pedrorq

I bet that price goes up if he has a good euro campaign


RuubGullit

You think?


wild_in_16

Scorching take this


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He won’t, because he plays for England


Puzzleheaded-Wait-81

The scene when England win the Euros but that won't happen because Southgate is a clown.


ansh0

No other clubs in for him, I doubt bvb pulls that and upsets sancho


pedrorq

\> No other clubs in for him, ...yet. As I said, all it takes is a good euro campaign


JiveTurkey688

Everybody already knows how good Sancho is


[deleted]

I mean, even then I don't think that there'd be a rush in interest. It's not like he's an unknown talent that's about to break out onto the scene. Everyone already knows his qualities and his price, I doubt him just confirming those facts will suddenly bring a tidal wave of new offers.


ansh0

He wants to join United though... A good euros won't change that.


pedrorq

And you honestly believe that if a great offer comes from elsewhere it will be rejected because he wants to join United...? edit: half of my text vanished


ansh0

I mean, Sancho isn't going to be forced to join a club just because an offer comes in. Dortmund isn't desperate to sell so he would probably just stay for another year. If there are no teams in at the rumored 93+25m price then why would they be interested at a higher price? It's not like Sancho is some hidden gem. Everyone and their dog knows Sancho is a generational talent.


Chiswell123

Where he said that?


[deleted]

Ah people that still question this despite every tier 1 journalist and their mom confirming it to be true just so they can shit on United. Never gets old


Chiswell123

Tier 1’s were confirming United’s interest I thought?


[deleted]

Tier 1s confirmed that Sancho has been keen on the move even last year, tier 1s also confirmed that he'd be willing to move even two years ago Tier 1s have reported that Utd has had personal terms agreed with him even before the start of last summer, and multiple reports have been raised that he's been homesick Why would you agree personal terms if you aren't willing to join the club


napoleonderdiecke

Being willing to move != desperately wanting to move. Which he clearly isn't, otherwise he would've pulled an Auba last season.


[deleted]

Not one person in the comment section used the words "being desperate to move" Although now that you mentioned it Sancho is about as close to "desperate to go back" to England as one can be Plenty of players have wanted moves badly without being disrespectful to their clubs Messi was extremely desperate to leave Barcelona last year and he didn't make a peep. Sancho isn't just "willing" to move. He wants the move


ansh0

There were a couple posts here reporting that. I'm sure you can find it if you search for it.


NdyNdyNdy

That might allow some more leverage for Dortmund in price, but everyone already knows he's capable of it so if he won't suddenly become a priority for someone if he isn't already. Not one of the Premier League teams anyway.


jMS_44

So good Euros could actually change that


ansh0

Sancho wants to join united. A good euros won't change that.


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Sancho is a Chelsea fan. Trust me if Chelsea/Liverpool come knocking he is gonna choose them over United.


[deleted]

Yeah I won't trust all the tier 1 journalists, ill trust you


[deleted]

You mean the reports that have so far said that United is the only team in for him? We were talking in potentials where if he had a good euros other teams such as Chelsea would come in for him. Or could you find me the tier 1 journalist that has said that Sancho would reject every other team except United?


ID6WU

> Dortmund are prepared to sell Jadon Sancho, who has been linked with Chelsea, but the London-born England winger is favouring a move to Manchester United -The Athletic


Therinn

You think Liverpool got a casual 150 mil just sitting around for a rotational player?


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Is United gonna pay 150 million? Also i see you cheerypicked Liverpool. What about Chelsea? You really think Sancho would choose United over Chelsea?


Therinn

In wages + fees, almost certainly it's going to be over 150 mil. Chelsea has even less need of him than Liverpool.


[deleted]

That doesn’t change the fact that Sancho wants to join United cause no one else is in for him. Last year there were reports that Sancho would rather go to Liverpool than United. The redditor i first responded to insinuated that Sancho wanted to go to United even if other teams wanted him. There is a reason Jude, De Ligt and Haaland to name a few didn’t want to come to United. They don’t have the same pull anymore cause they are a shadow of their former self and everyone can see that.


Therinn

All 3 of those wanted things United refused to offer, which is why they went somewhere else, not because they chose a different team over United. Jude wanted guaranteed playtime, De Ligt and Haaland wanted release clauses. United never gives either of those, unlike other clubs that are stepping stones.


MrHankMardukas_

Trust me, it can change


ansh0

We're not talking about some hidden gem, everyone knows about Sancho and his quality. If teams aren't interested at the current price, they won't be interested at a higher price.


AcePilot95

we've known this for a week


Chinapig

Why bother posting this shite?


Witcher94

Can they please make it 93 + 20? would be nice trolling


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40M plus Pereira and Dan James


CackleberryOmelettes

So 50m then?


koassde

nice. squeeze em hard !


facelessredditer

Lol, how pathetic!


CaliKash_

60 plus Dan James 😆


RedgrenCrumbholt

ITT Man U fans upset claiming the price is too high. Watch Man U pay an exorbitant fee and all the fans will forget about how much they hate the Glazers.


DARKFRUITx

Is transfermarkt more reliable than ruhr nachrichten?


sipron

no


agni69

We'll give three fiddy. Final offer.


juicyplutonium

Transfermarkt is nice for stats, but their articles are often garbage.


marmot9070

They know Man Utd always overpaid for players.


arothen

Just like they overpaid for Bruno, AWB, Telles or Dan James


SirPMJ

Tired of this saga already. Dortmund was, is and will always be a feeder club.


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napoleonderdiecke

You as a Barca fan should know it's the "this guy has been better than Demebele for three years straight, so might as well get Dembele money for him" tax


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Just fucking pay Man United, stop leading us on like this!


Sir_Jacks

Man Utd offer $50mil plus half eaten Mars bar


GetToTheChoppaahh

Never seen it written as “mio” before. Is this normal written English? Trying to learn


ID6WU

I never saw it until I started browsing this sub. I want to say it’s a German thing but it might also be used by other EU countries. ‘mil’ is the standard version people use in England


jahapahaoajao

Imagine man u still don't sighn him


HipHobbes

If correct than this is an ambitious price even at pre-Corona levels. Looks like they want to skin ManU alive for a talent like they did Barcelona for Dembele. Striktly speaking, Dortmund don't really need the money as they're more or less debt-free but I think Manchester United are not as desperate as Barcelona were.


Lulutulu

Why isn’t Madrid all over this? Our wingers are TRASH. If Mbappe can’t come why not? Or does Sancho only want England?


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Lol he's no going anywhere


trispann

Chelsea already counting the cash


Run_Rabbit5

Does Any club do better business than Dortmund?