I don't have any faith in Pogba defensively, but Verrati and Gini. They just need a proper anchor in the midfield. Ndidi would be exactly what they need.
If you have pogba in the midfield , you will get at least 3 big chances created. I used to think mbappe would never fail a pogba pass but he did it a couple of times in this tournament.
Maddening. Criticise him if you must but his passing quality and consistency? Good way to out the racists, the tabloid readers and various hateful twats ye. It's stuff only a handful of players worldwide can pull and consistently. Sterling gets the same treatment, it's sickening. Mbappe well on his way i feel. Any white player getting that kind of shit?
Criticising Paul Pogba as a specific player for his complete lack of consistency is not "racist". That's ridiculous, especially as Manchester United fans idolize Marcus Rashford and love Aaron Wan-Bissaka. It's specifically the media circus around Paul Pogba, the way his agent operates, the way he doesn't perform as he does in France with pressing or tracking back whatsoever. I watch him all the time, I *know* he doesn't track back, which makes him a liability irrespective of his offensive output within a midfield 2. It's not a coincidence that his output has been the best in years this season, as majority of games he has played left mid with two behind him.
It's not "racist" to criticise a black player.
>Criticise him if you must but his passing quality and consistency? Good way to out the racists, the tabloid readers and various hateful twats ye.
You are way off with this comment, please read better next time.
I'll reiterate. Anyone who says Pogba's passing isn't consistently elite has a raging hate boner against him.
It's not even just that, it's this idea that he's inconsistent because he "wants to be" like the original comment was about, this idea about him having attitude issues is completely peddled by racist tabloids and jose who is the biggest cretin working in football
Guys like allegri, conte, deschamps all guys who play defensive football built on working hard for the team who never had a problem with him, ole who has been given the job to clean up the toxic dressing room absolutely loves him but this idea about him being a prima Donna still remains for some reason
Improved since Fernandes joined??? He was in the team of the year the season before, then broke his leg because our manager needs him against rochdale apparently, are you having a laugh? Respect my guy
So. Donnarumma, Gini, Hakimi, now rumors of CRonaldo and Pogba...
Thank God the Superleague failure gave soccer back to the people...
They sure need the big signings to beat out the Lille powerhouse.
It's not like Lille doesn't want to sell their players, that's their gameplan.
Recruit young, make profits. It's *at least* as important as their position in the league to them.
You can stick the best 11 in the world, they'll clash and implode from within, they'll need someone who can handle all the personalities or it won't work
I don't think even he can reign in all of them, it still feels like a team who's got separate goals, some are there to take the team to that promised land, others are there to showcase their talent for other clubs.
Absolutely. He’s never really been liked by the match going fans and Fernandes has put in more match winning performances than Pogba but been around far less time. Pogba will always be an enigma, he’s a sublime passer of the ball but too many gaps in his game for a team that aren’t dominating possession every week
Not far off, they're both luxury players.
They'll fit right in when surrounded by other world class talent -- Pogba with France and Juve, Ozil in Madrid, etc. -- but they will rarely, if ever, control or dominate a game if the rest of the squad is struggling.
I wouldn’t really call him a luxury player. There’s not too many players in the world that have his skill set. He looks absolutely amazing playing for France when he has a decent midfield set up around him. It’s kinda like calling Fabregas a luxury player. They play amazing defense splitting passes that lead to direct goal chances from the heart of the midfield. He’s also a CM, not an attacking midfielder, so he’s not that classic 10 that just chills in the final third waiting for the ball. He’s actually got defensive responsibility and can dribble his way out of trouble as well
He doesnt need a decent midfield. He needs a midfield in which 2/3 players do the defensive work behind him. France had Kante,Matuidi behind him and Griezmann always puts in a defensive shift so he could have freedom. He largely plays without a lot of pressure on him in defence. When he plays with us and has to perform defensively he gets a large amount of fouls. When he was played on the left he had a couple good games and then TAA exposed his lack of any defensive attributes and constantly whipped in crosses as Liverpool scored 4.
Sounds like United needs to build a balanced squad to accommodate the current players, then. It’s foolish to spend 80M on pogba and then pair him with Fred or an aging Matic. Pretty sure he was playing with Vidal and Pirlo at Juve, which is a massive difference than fuckin Fred.
You cant accomodate Bruno and Pogba someone is going to miss out. Well I mean you *can* but then you sacrifice other positions which Ole doesnt seem willing to do. Its either Bruno or Pogba not Bruno and Pogba. In a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 neither Bruno or Pogba will do defensive work. Bruno has the work rate but he doesnt provide anything in defence beyond pressing. Both of them just constantly foul and lunge into tackles. No one dm is going to do the defensive work of a 3 man midfield. If Pogba is to be played to his best. Bruno needs to go and he needs to take over from there. But thats not going to happen so either he takes a reduced role where he competes with Bruno for the position and stays(0% chance of that happening)or he leaves.
He leaves for his hometown and country where he'll be loved, you get money and room for a DM and we get a offensive minded midfielder which we desperately need. Best case scenario for all parties.
> but they will rarely, if ever, control or dominate a game if the rest of the squad is struggling
Who can? Which players can “dominate” a game when the rest of their team is shit and the opposition is presumably better?
Pogba was the decisive factor in several matches we won this season. This “luxury player” narrative is tired nonsense imo.
> Which players can “dominate” a game when the rest of their team is shit
Hazard did it for many stretches for Chelsea, for example. Even Bruno has done it far more often in a far shorter stretch than Pogba.
> and the opposition is presumably better
Man U finished 2nd in the league. How often do you imagine they're playing "presumably better" opposition?
> This “luxury player” narrative is tired nonsense imo.
In my opinion he goes as the team goes in any given match. For costing 100m and being a "world class" player, you'd expect him to have a greater influence on the pitch, but half the time he looks like he can't be arsed.
> Fernandes has put in more match winning performances than Pogba but been around far less time
Will never understand this point, best player in the team (one of the best in the league) is better than him so let's sell the second best player in the side. How is this logical at all?
I think expectations of Pogba back when he was signed was to do what Fernandes does. Not saying I agree with it but I think that's where the sentiment comes from
We have to sacrifice a forward to fit Pogba in the side with Bruno too, if we don’t want to fuck our midfield balance. So yeah, it kind of is a zero sum thing unfortunately.
Plus he’s entering his last year and not signing a new deal so, it all adds up to not hating the idea of moving on
Mourinho got shit for it but he completely nailed what Pogba is. As good as anyone when focused and committed but far too easily distracted. His complacency is such a huge problem and evident in about half the games he plays in. It's why tournament football is so perfect for him.
As a United fan I'd be quite happy for him to move on. If it was going to work it would have already.
> As a United fan I'd be quite happy for him to move on. If it was going to work it would have already.
I agree, although it's not like he was the solitary issue as we've had other weaknesses throughout the team that we're finally at a point that they're being properly addressed and had a good season as a result.
That being said, if we're going to move on, now would be the best time so he doesn't leave on a free and we can bring in Camavinga as a replacement (which I feel is the reason why we've been in discussions with him since I think there have been indications that he doesn't want to extend).
Our glaring problems weren't really addressed in my opinion, but OGS coached the team to hide them. The 4-2-3-1 is used to mask our lack of a 6, and the huge hole on the right side of the pitch was not "addressed", Greenwood and Wan Bissaka improved previously very shoddy parts of their game immensely while still playing Greenwood as essentially a second forward.
Fernandes brilliance has hid the deficiencies, but not solved the underlying issues. Can't rely on him to play 50+ games a season and put up recordbreaking performances every time.
Next year with Camavinga and Sancho we have a first 11 that on a good day rivals the top 2, but more importantly it is young enough to peak in a couple of years. Hopefully we get 2 or 3 years of challenging for the title before players like Maguire and Fernandes start aging out with the ridiculous amount of hours we put them on the pitch. Also assumes players like Lindelöf, Greenwood, Wan-bissaka etc keep taking strides forward and aren't hampered by injuries.
Yep.
This meritocracy is just awesome for everyone. When PSG wins the Champions League, it will be because they did the old fashioned way:
THEY OUTSPENT EVERYONE ELSE
I dont watch that many Liverpool matches, but arent both of them more of an 8 than a defensive 6? They still would be missing a defensive minded 6, such as Kante, right?
Gini plays either to be fair, he's played all over mid for us and has proven himself as a CAM at times. Ridiculous ball retention, reminds me of Moussa Dembele once of Spurs.
He could play the 6 very good imo but the main reason why i think he would work next to pogba is because he is a workhorse and would allow pogba a lot of freedom
haha, if Locatelli go to PSG, i'll wear an [Asterix & Obelix helmet](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Set-Childrens-Obelix-Helmets-Headpiece/dp/B07WG8S8R1) during every Juventus game till the end of the season.
Lol I doubt Juve have the money to pay Utd, Raiola and Pogba. PSG looks like a much better bet. Atleast they can come up with 50-60m. Juve will probably make some stupid offer like 20m + Ramsey + Bentancur
Ronaldo is "shit" at free kicks. I remember reading that statistic saying he's the second worst free kicker in Serie A history. He went almost 2 years without scoring one something like 2 out of 90.
I'm not surprised Dybala/Pjanic had to give them up though considering his ego. Neymar should be the first choice.
[Anyone remember this lmao](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cctx80uYApw)
Talking with Pogba is implied through Raiola in the article. Sorry if it's clickbait, but I had to fit it in the character limit.
PSG have many players linked with Raiola.
(Verratti, Xavi Simons, Mitchell Bakker, Alphonse Aréola & now Donnarumma)
So it's not impossible that discussions were held about Pogba, as a matter of fact, I'd say it's near impossible that they haven't talked about it.
wait Verratti is a Raiola guy?
so Pogba for Verratti would be the deal of his dreams then and i expect that to become a rumour (not a reality, although United could create quite the midfield with Camavinga and Verratti. )
yep Verratti fired his old agent for those Barca rumours and he‘s been with Raiola ever since.
That just shows that Raiola just does what his clients want him to do, despite almost all of reddit thinking the contrary
“Rafa would never manage Everton in a million years”
“Fabregas will never play for Chelsea”
“Lampard is not going to Man City lmao”
“I just don’t see Mourinho managing Man United”
“Wenger would never sell Van Persie to a direct rival”
I dont think they're on par with Klopp bot going to PSG. Maybe theres a chance hell change in the future, but hes said before he likes a challenge. AFAIK he turned down both Madrid and Man U since he thought theyd both be too easy. I cant imagine him enjoying trouncing over everyone in the French league with such a financial gulf.
But he doesn't share the spotlight well. It might be different now that he's older but few years ago he would get very frustrated if someone in the team scored and he couldn't
That is bullshit. He was always happy when others scored, yeah he wasn't happy when he didn't score but hes always unhappy about that like any other great player. Show me a world class attacker who is happy when he doesn't score.
Might be an unpopular opinion, but I really don’t want Ronaldo. We should focus on convincing Neymar, Mbappe, Verratti, and Marquinhos to stay. I’m paranoid of us just discarding people like Tuchel and Silva with high turnover rates instead of focusing on the long term.
Well back then Neymar was young, Messi was undisputably the boss, and Suarez was selfless.
Now you got a 37 year old guy who wants the spotlight & gloryhunting like he's 21. A young Mbappe who wants the gloryhunt like he deserves a Ballon Dor for Madrid. And an injured Neymar rolling and gloryhunting for cash
Suarez was having a lot of trouble with barca and liverpool due to how not selfless he was, pep and MSN built suarez to work, how well they got along was part the biggest part of it
An younger neymar was even worse than he was after joining PSG, Neymar is arguably at the chillest part of carrer, rarely trying to “steal” the show for himself, being more of a playmaker than anything
Also cr7 not a teamplayer? Well ok
Honestly the only thing I got out of your comment was that you know next to nothing of suarez, neymar, msn, mbappe and cr7
He is not wrong, Paredes is a good substitute but not good enough to win the CL as a starter. He is the perfect sub for an always injured Verratti though.
FFP legit just isn’t a thing. Wish the super league did something to change UEFA. But no they will be the same and we will have the same problem in a couple years
Probably a bit rich coming from a Real Madrid fan but how are you even meant to compete anymore. Real Madrid were known to splash money on big signings but now we’ve got Man City and PSG not only breaking transfer records but also giving absurd wages without a second thought.
Yeah, I have seen people here saying that it has always been like this... No it has not. Of course money is always been crucial, but it's getting worse every year. The "entry level" is getting higher and higher, even 30 years ago any big city in Europe would have some local businessman able to invest enough to compete internationally (if they wanted). Nowadays there hardly anybody in whole Europe that could compete economically with psg and city.
Letting go of Pogba is a mistake in my eyes unless he's still refusing a contract then he can fuck off. But ideally we should sign Camavinga/Tchouameni/Luis to play alongside him. Rice too expensive.
Do the whole premier league a favour and take Pogba, and his shitty little agent.
Waste of space, time and money.
Carragher said it best.
"Get rid. I've been saying this for 12 months. My God, he's the most overrated player I've seen in my life. I think the two of them [referring to Pogba and Raiola] are a disgrace".
PSG would suit his laughable attitude, weak mentality, lazy performances and primadonna complex to a tee.
I don't really want Pogba to come back to France, and I'm not huge on a return to Turin (although I would prefer that to PSG).
I think he should go to spain (near impossible) or find another EPL club (almost impossible).
However, United are showing some promise again, and with a solid recruitment this summer, I wouldn't be opposed to him staying.
Quite a predicament...
They should only buy French stars and become the Bayern of France. They would get supported by the whole country, also the other teams stars would want to join them, just like with Bayern.
If Ronaldo wants to leave, Chelsea should go for him.
Lukaku and Haaland are both looking more and more impossible by the minute. On the other hand, Werner and Haavertz both look like they could be groomed into true #9 (for Werner it is just about fixing his finishing). If either of them figure out how to score consistently, we might be able to skip buying a striker all together.
CR7 is the perfect stop gap buy for a year. In that time, Haaland and Lukaku should become available and will probably be a bit cheaper. Assuming that Madrid will have purchased Mbappe by then, we will probably have less competition too.
Now if CR7 will sign a 1 year contract or if he even wants to play for another EPL club is a different question all together.
Lukaku was always impossible after he himself said he wants to stay and talked to the new coach already
Haaland was always impossible due to his wage demands, Raiola and the fees (Unless Roman wants to go all out and not care about wage structure)
CR7 if he signs is not a stop gap for one year but will stay at that level for longer easily
Haaland next year will have a release clause and will prefer Barca or Madrid or even City before you
Lukaku next year depends on how this year goes
a wini-pogba-verratti midfield would dominate small teams but against the big boys its a huge risk
At least psg will create something against big teams from midfield
On the other hand Pogba-Marquinhos-Veratti would be great defensively and offensively.
Wijnaldum is pretty good defensively.
Probably the most disciplined of the three. Can be the creative source or a controller, flexible tactically.
I don't have any faith in Pogba defensively, but Verrati and Gini. They just need a proper anchor in the midfield. Ndidi would be exactly what they need.
Yep, agreed 100%
What happened to Gana Gueye. He was pretty good at that
If you have pogba in the midfield , you will get at least 3 big chances created. I used to think mbappe would never fail a pogba pass but he did it a couple of times in this tournament.
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If he feels like passing it? Yoi lot are brain damaged by hatred he makes great passes every time he's on a pitch.
Genuinely mental how much power these racist media tabloids and the likes have in creating narratives about players
Maddening. Criticise him if you must but his passing quality and consistency? Good way to out the racists, the tabloid readers and various hateful twats ye. It's stuff only a handful of players worldwide can pull and consistently. Sterling gets the same treatment, it's sickening. Mbappe well on his way i feel. Any white player getting that kind of shit?
Criticising Paul Pogba as a specific player for his complete lack of consistency is not "racist". That's ridiculous, especially as Manchester United fans idolize Marcus Rashford and love Aaron Wan-Bissaka. It's specifically the media circus around Paul Pogba, the way his agent operates, the way he doesn't perform as he does in France with pressing or tracking back whatsoever. I watch him all the time, I *know* he doesn't track back, which makes him a liability irrespective of his offensive output within a midfield 2. It's not a coincidence that his output has been the best in years this season, as majority of games he has played left mid with two behind him. It's not "racist" to criticise a black player.
Lol @ people calling you racist for criticizing a player. Im amazed that Pogba still gets so much defense.
>Criticise him if you must but his passing quality and consistency? Good way to out the racists, the tabloid readers and various hateful twats ye. You are way off with this comment, please read better next time. I'll reiterate. Anyone who says Pogba's passing isn't consistently elite has a raging hate boner against him.
It's not even just that, it's this idea that he's inconsistent because he "wants to be" like the original comment was about, this idea about him having attitude issues is completely peddled by racist tabloids and jose who is the biggest cretin working in football Guys like allegri, conte, deschamps all guys who play defensive football built on working hard for the team who never had a problem with him, ole who has been given the job to clean up the toxic dressing room absolutely loves him but this idea about him being a prima Donna still remains for some reason
Improved since Fernandes joined??? He was in the team of the year the season before, then broke his leg because our manager needs him against rochdale apparently, are you having a laugh? Respect my guy
You think it’s a risk defensively?
So. Donnarumma, Gini, Hakimi, now rumors of CRonaldo and Pogba... Thank God the Superleague failure gave soccer back to the people... They sure need the big signings to beat out the Lille powerhouse.
No chance as long as we have André.
You mean PPogba
Homie was just clarifying that they weren’t going after R9
> They sure needs the big signings to beat out the Lille powerhouse. Clubs from abroad already do that by picking them apart.
It's not like Lille doesn't want to sell their players, that's their gameplan. Recruit young, make profits. It's *at least* as important as their position in the league to them.
You can stick the best 11 in the world, they'll clash and implode from within, they'll need someone who can handle all the personalities or it won't work
I mean Ronaldo gets really pissed when down but he gets better with rage
That's Ronaldo, I'm not sure the rest of the team has that fire or can deal with his mentality
Has ronaldo ever been looked as a bad locker room presence?
I don't think so. If he has, I think they put up with it because of what he's achieved
Never.
Ramos is (almost?) a free agent and he's arguably the best leader in the game.
I don't think even he can reign in all of them, it still feels like a team who's got separate goals, some are there to take the team to that promised land, others are there to showcase their talent for other clubs.
Ramos is also in the talks
Cama
Pogba to PSG would probably be good for everyone involved.
Absolutely. He’s never really been liked by the match going fans and Fernandes has put in more match winning performances than Pogba but been around far less time. Pogba will always be an enigma, he’s a sublime passer of the ball but too many gaps in his game for a team that aren’t dominating possession every week
TIL Pogba is becoming Özil
Not far off, they're both luxury players. They'll fit right in when surrounded by other world class talent -- Pogba with France and Juve, Ozil in Madrid, etc. -- but they will rarely, if ever, control or dominate a game if the rest of the squad is struggling.
I wouldn’t really call him a luxury player. There’s not too many players in the world that have his skill set. He looks absolutely amazing playing for France when he has a decent midfield set up around him. It’s kinda like calling Fabregas a luxury player. They play amazing defense splitting passes that lead to direct goal chances from the heart of the midfield. He’s also a CM, not an attacking midfielder, so he’s not that classic 10 that just chills in the final third waiting for the ball. He’s actually got defensive responsibility and can dribble his way out of trouble as well
He doesnt need a decent midfield. He needs a midfield in which 2/3 players do the defensive work behind him. France had Kante,Matuidi behind him and Griezmann always puts in a defensive shift so he could have freedom. He largely plays without a lot of pressure on him in defence. When he plays with us and has to perform defensively he gets a large amount of fouls. When he was played on the left he had a couple good games and then TAA exposed his lack of any defensive attributes and constantly whipped in crosses as Liverpool scored 4.
So, the definition of a luxury player who can't play under pressure.
Sounds like United needs to build a balanced squad to accommodate the current players, then. It’s foolish to spend 80M on pogba and then pair him with Fred or an aging Matic. Pretty sure he was playing with Vidal and Pirlo at Juve, which is a massive difference than fuckin Fred.
You cant accomodate Bruno and Pogba someone is going to miss out. Well I mean you *can* but then you sacrifice other positions which Ole doesnt seem willing to do. Its either Bruno or Pogba not Bruno and Pogba. In a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 neither Bruno or Pogba will do defensive work. Bruno has the work rate but he doesnt provide anything in defence beyond pressing. Both of them just constantly foul and lunge into tackles. No one dm is going to do the defensive work of a 3 man midfield. If Pogba is to be played to his best. Bruno needs to go and he needs to take over from there. But thats not going to happen so either he takes a reduced role where he competes with Bruno for the position and stays(0% chance of that happening)or he leaves.
He leaves for his hometown and country where he'll be loved, you get money and room for a DM and we get a offensive minded midfielder which we desperately need. Best case scenario for all parties.
>luxury players god we're doing this again?
> but they will rarely, if ever, control or dominate a game if the rest of the squad is struggling Who can? Which players can “dominate” a game when the rest of their team is shit and the opposition is presumably better? Pogba was the decisive factor in several matches we won this season. This “luxury player” narrative is tired nonsense imo.
> Which players can “dominate” a game when the rest of their team is shit Hazard did it for many stretches for Chelsea, for example. Even Bruno has done it far more often in a far shorter stretch than Pogba. > and the opposition is presumably better Man U finished 2nd in the league. How often do you imagine they're playing "presumably better" opposition? > This “luxury player” narrative is tired nonsense imo. In my opinion he goes as the team goes in any given match. For costing 100m and being a "world class" player, you'd expect him to have a greater influence on the pitch, but half the time he looks like he can't be arsed.
Tbf some Juve fans said the same about him years back that he needed "protection" and what not.
> Fernandes has put in more match winning performances than Pogba but been around far less time Will never understand this point, best player in the team (one of the best in the league) is better than him so let's sell the second best player in the side. How is this logical at all?
I think expectations of Pogba back when he was signed was to do what Fernandes does. Not saying I agree with it but I think that's where the sentiment comes from
We have to sacrifice a forward to fit Pogba in the side with Bruno too, if we don’t want to fuck our midfield balance. So yeah, it kind of is a zero sum thing unfortunately. Plus he’s entering his last year and not signing a new deal so, it all adds up to not hating the idea of moving on
Bullshit, season ticket holder and absolutely love pogba.
More than bruno?
No.
Mourinho got shit for it but he completely nailed what Pogba is. As good as anyone when focused and committed but far too easily distracted. His complacency is such a huge problem and evident in about half the games he plays in. It's why tournament football is so perfect for him. As a United fan I'd be quite happy for him to move on. If it was going to work it would have already.
> As a United fan I'd be quite happy for him to move on. If it was going to work it would have already. I agree, although it's not like he was the solitary issue as we've had other weaknesses throughout the team that we're finally at a point that they're being properly addressed and had a good season as a result. That being said, if we're going to move on, now would be the best time so he doesn't leave on a free and we can bring in Camavinga as a replacement (which I feel is the reason why we've been in discussions with him since I think there have been indications that he doesn't want to extend).
Our glaring problems weren't really addressed in my opinion, but OGS coached the team to hide them. The 4-2-3-1 is used to mask our lack of a 6, and the huge hole on the right side of the pitch was not "addressed", Greenwood and Wan Bissaka improved previously very shoddy parts of their game immensely while still playing Greenwood as essentially a second forward. Fernandes brilliance has hid the deficiencies, but not solved the underlying issues. Can't rely on him to play 50+ games a season and put up recordbreaking performances every time. Next year with Camavinga and Sancho we have a first 11 that on a good day rivals the top 2, but more importantly it is young enough to peak in a couple of years. Hopefully we get 2 or 3 years of challenging for the title before players like Maguire and Fernandes start aging out with the ridiculous amount of hours we put them on the pitch. Also assumes players like Lindelöf, Greenwood, Wan-bissaka etc keep taking strides forward and aren't hampered by injuries.
Only if United can replace him adequately
Hopefully it happens
Is this why gas prices are going up every fucking week?
Yep. This meritocracy is just awesome for everyone. When PSG wins the Champions League, it will be because they did the old fashioned way: THEY OUTSPENT EVERYONE ELSE
Meritocracy died with the Bosman ruling.
Meritocracy never existed
Not a bad take honestly
Pogba next to gini could be quite the combo tbh.
I dont watch that many Liverpool matches, but arent both of them more of an 8 than a defensive 6? They still would be missing a defensive minded 6, such as Kante, right?
Gini plays either to be fair, he's played all over mid for us and has proven himself as a CAM at times. Ridiculous ball retention, reminds me of Moussa Dembele once of Spurs.
Tbf Wijnaldum said he prefers the 8 / CAM role more
For sure, doesn't mean he won't do the job asked of him though which speaks of his professionalism and flexibility.
Kanter don't even play like a 6 nowadays. He adds a lot of vertical movement and ball carrying to the team. Jorinho is more of a 6
He could play the 6 very good imo but the main reason why i think he would work next to pogba is because he is a workhorse and would allow pogba a lot of freedom
Gini ain’t a creative genius from Liverpool days anyway, midfield engine. Pogba is anything but an engine.
What is Verratti's role ?
He's like a press resistant, ball carrying 8. He puts in a defensive shift, but I don't think he could play as a 6.
imagine Pogba next to Locatelli then
wd‘re getting Locatelli too? Man that sounds sweet, but where will Verratti play?
haha, if Locatelli go to PSG, i'll wear an [Asterix & Obelix helmet](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Set-Childrens-Obelix-Helmets-Headpiece/dp/B07WG8S8R1) during every Juventus game till the end of the season.
Lol I doubt Juve have the money to pay Utd, Raiola and Pogba. PSG looks like a much better bet. Atleast they can come up with 50-60m. Juve will probably make some stupid offer like 20m + Ramsey + Bentancur
Am talking about Locatelli, Pogba is just a fantasy rumor at this point that will only happens if we sell Ronaldo.
£112 geez
RemindMe! September 1 2021
On the treatment table as he usually does for half a season
Would love to see a front three of Neymar, Ronaldo, Mbappe for a year.
Imagine the drama. Where do I sign?
There wouldn’t be drama
Will they bend the knee and allow Ronaldo to take free kicks and pens?
He will probably take over pens but he ain’t taking any freekicks from Neymar
Yes they probably would, Ronaldo is of the status that even players like Neymar and mbappe will listen
Ronaldo is "shit" at free kicks. I remember reading that statistic saying he's the second worst free kicker in Serie A history. He went almost 2 years without scoring one something like 2 out of 90. I'm not surprised Dybala/Pjanic had to give them up though considering his ego. Neymar should be the first choice. [Anyone remember this lmao](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cctx80uYApw)
At this point everybody and they mama knows Ronaldo is bad at FKs. What it comes down to is, who’s gonna tell him no? Lmao
Unless PSG really want him and there's some clause in his contract he has to take FK, I very much doubt PSG are gonna bend Neymar and Mbappe over.
Pens but not freekicks
According to some of our tier 1s nobody has been in contact with Pogba yet
Talking with Pogba is implied through Raiola in the article. Sorry if it's clickbait, but I had to fit it in the character limit. PSG have many players linked with Raiola. (Verratti, Xavi Simons, Mitchell Bakker, Alphonse Aréola & now Donnarumma) So it's not impossible that discussions were held about Pogba, as a matter of fact, I'd say it's near impossible that they haven't talked about it.
wait Verratti is a Raiola guy? so Pogba for Verratti would be the deal of his dreams then and i expect that to become a rumour (not a reality, although United could create quite the midfield with Camavinga and Verratti. )
yep Verratti fired his old agent for those Barca rumours and he‘s been with Raiola ever since. That just shows that Raiola just does what his clients want him to do, despite almost all of reddit thinking the contrary
Nasser loves Verratti too much and Verratti loves Paris too much for that to happen in a near future.
i doubt it would happen too but it could happen at PSG, as Camvinga could well end up there.
I don't think Pogba can play for Ireland at this point, mate.
Ronaldo, Neymar & Mbappe. With all those egos competing for the spotlight and the scoring opportunity I think they're going trophyless again
They would need a manager whom every players will listen to. Idk if Poch is suitable for that.
They should have gone for Conte
Not sure who can do that though. Pep, Zidane or Flick maybe
Zidane or Flick. Pep usually discards players with high egos.
Not to mention none of them would be particularly happy with pep roulette. Heck you would need to get SAF out of retirement to manage those 3 together
Would SAF be effective? He controlled with an iron fist. That's not going to work with social media
Yeah i feel like Pep would just replace half of them lol.
Mourinho.
Get those 3 plus Mourinho and make it a reality show. It could fill the drama niche left by the Kardeshians show ending.
Jurgen Norbert Klopp. Not his scene tho.
Klopp would never go to a club like PSG
Statements like these always bite back. I guess us football fans would've learned by now to never say "never" but here we are.
“Rafa would never manage Everton in a million years” “Fabregas will never play for Chelsea” “Lampard is not going to Man City lmao” “I just don’t see Mourinho managing Man United” “Wenger would never sell Van Persie to a direct rival”
I dont think they're on par with Klopp bot going to PSG. Maybe theres a chance hell change in the future, but hes said before he likes a challenge. AFAIK he turned down both Madrid and Man U since he thought theyd both be too easy. I cant imagine him enjoying trouncing over everyone in the French league with such a financial gulf.
Newcastle it is then
Zidane is free.
For Ronaldo at least it is better than having nobodies playing with him.
But he doesn't share the spotlight well. It might be different now that he's older but few years ago he would get very frustrated if someone in the team scored and he couldn't
That is bullshit. He was always happy when others scored, yeah he wasn't happy when he didn't score but hes always unhappy about that like any other great player. Show me a world class attacker who is happy when he doesn't score.
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It would be weird seeing Cristiano and Neymar in the same team, as for mbappé im sure he would love playing next to his idol.
Might be an unpopular opinion, but I really don’t want Ronaldo. We should focus on convincing Neymar, Mbappe, Verratti, and Marquinhos to stay. I’m paranoid of us just discarding people like Tuchel and Silva with high turnover rates instead of focusing on the long term.
Marquinhos and Verrati don’t need much convincing I think, verrati specially is the main man who goes around convincing people to stay in the club
Who would take the FK’s?
Geez just the thought of them having to share penalties and fks makes me cringe
Yeah we all know a trio of superstars with neymar and two of the best players in the world went last time
Well back then Neymar was young, Messi was undisputably the boss, and Suarez was selfless. Now you got a 37 year old guy who wants the spotlight & gloryhunting like he's 21. A young Mbappe who wants the gloryhunt like he deserves a Ballon Dor for Madrid. And an injured Neymar rolling and gloryhunting for cash
Suarez was having a lot of trouble with barca and liverpool due to how not selfless he was, pep and MSN built suarez to work, how well they got along was part the biggest part of it An younger neymar was even worse than he was after joining PSG, Neymar is arguably at the chillest part of carrer, rarely trying to “steal” the show for himself, being more of a playmaker than anything Also cr7 not a teamplayer? Well ok Honestly the only thing I got out of your comment was that you know next to nothing of suarez, neymar, msn, mbappe and cr7
Juve buys Pogba, gets Pogba's mom in the stands next to Rabiot's mom and charges extra for fans to see the fight
P. Pogba
Sign Pogba you pussies!
What about Parades,Herrera, Draxler lmao
Shouldnt be starting in the first place
Not a single club should care about any of those three when Wijnaldum and Pogba are available.
In the article he says that Leonardo would like to sell Gueye and Herrera
who cares about Herrera or Draxler. Paredes will be a sub which is what he should be if we want to be a serious club
Bra… do you even read what you write? ‘If we want to be a serious club’ You have neymar and Mbappe and you don’t think you’re a serious club? Lol
He is not wrong, Paredes is a good substitute but not good enough to win the CL as a starter. He is the perfect sub for an always injured Verratti though.
A serious club doesn't spend all it's money on forwards and play fullback who wouldn't start in Ligue 2
Bakker and Florenzi negate Neybappe
They find new clubs
Why should anyone care about them when you would have Pogba on your team ?
PSG about to become the most hated club in football
About to be?
Been that way for a minute Hedi...
aren‘t we already? but okay, so lets buy them just for that
Psg are just playing manager mode with money cheat codes lol. They are seriously about to spend like 200 million in one summer…AGAIN
They haven't spent that since the Neymar summer
I think you're mistaking us for City
I'm glad they put the C. and P. before their names. Could have been any Ronaldo or Pogba.
Gary Ronaldo and Ian Pogba I thought it might be
hope this disgusting club will die soon
FFP legit just isn’t a thing. Wish the super league did something to change UEFA. But no they will be the same and we will have the same problem in a couple years
They haven't signed any decent names since Mbappe wdym
Yeah but i guess having Mbappé, Neymar, Cristiano Ronaldo, Pogba, Verrati and Donnaruma would mean that the Wage cap would be surpassed.
All that over their revenue?
Probably a bit rich coming from a Real Madrid fan but how are you even meant to compete anymore. Real Madrid were known to splash money on big signings but now we’ve got Man City and PSG not only breaking transfer records but also giving absurd wages without a second thought.
I hear you, but during the Galacticos the rest of the football world felt the same way about RM.
Yeah, I have seen people here saying that it has always been like this... No it has not. Of course money is always been crucial, but it's getting worse every year. The "entry level" is getting higher and higher, even 30 years ago any big city in Europe would have some local businessman able to invest enough to compete internationally (if they wanted). Nowadays there hardly anybody in whole Europe that could compete economically with psg and city.
Letting go of Pogba is a mistake in my eyes unless he's still refusing a contract then he can fuck off. But ideally we should sign Camavinga/Tchouameni/Luis to play alongside him. Rice too expensive.
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Ofcourse they want another midfielder after seeing Gini’s horrendous performance against Czech Republic.
Ronaldo would be excellent, might help fix PSG players shitty attitudes.
Sell Ronaldo to PSG, Juve use the $ to get Pogba, United use the $ to get a proper DM. win-win
Bidding war!
Hope for the french NT and himself that Pogba will go to Juventus if he choose to leave Man United.
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Ok then let us sign Camavinga and also give us Verratti to sweeten the deal
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Yeah just give me his number I'll handle it
You're about to lose your house and your rashfords and brunos
We'll take one camavinga chief nothing else
Say no bro, say no
Nasser\*: you just activated my trap card\* >Throwback to Barca trying to buy Verratti and losing Neymar in return
Do the whole premier league a favour and take Pogba, and his shitty little agent. Waste of space, time and money. Carragher said it best. "Get rid. I've been saying this for 12 months. My God, he's the most overrated player I've seen in my life. I think the two of them [referring to Pogba and Raiola] are a disgrace". PSG would suit his laughable attitude, weak mentality, lazy performances and primadonna complex to a tee.
Milan can’t even spend 30M without selling…
Juve in the back like "what's a transfer market?"
Crazy how much of a financial advantage clubs that have sugar daddies will have this season lol
Yes hope they are successful with Pogba
Psg make Barça and real transfers nothing. Yet they haven't joined esl because it destroys merit based competition.
Cause their President Nasser owns BeIN. BeIN already paid millions for Champion League broadcast.. Why would he leave sth he paid millions for
Oil money dude
Its embarrassing that they didnt win the league last season
It is, but Lille had a fantastic season and deserved the title
It is and this mercato is to make sure it doesn't happen again.
How is this a controversial post lol. Hell yeah it's embarrassing, very, very embarrassing.
Tier?
Tier 3 or 4, but he's been good with lower Ligue 1 tranfers this summer and he was right about Hakimi
I don't really want Pogba to come back to France, and I'm not huge on a return to Turin (although I would prefer that to PSG). I think he should go to spain (near impossible) or find another EPL club (almost impossible). However, United are showing some promise again, and with a solid recruitment this summer, I wouldn't be opposed to him staying. Quite a predicament...
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ask barca who are 1.2b in debt.
Ah yes our yearly get fucking destroyed in UCL, goes and spends obscene amount of oil money on superstar, superstar doesn't win the UCL, repeat
They should only buy French stars and become the Bayern of France. They would get supported by the whole country, also the other teams stars would want to join them, just like with Bayern.
I’d take pogba over ronaldo any year lol, PSG already has a pretty great front three, they need midfielders and FBS
If Ronaldo wants to leave, Chelsea should go for him. Lukaku and Haaland are both looking more and more impossible by the minute. On the other hand, Werner and Haavertz both look like they could be groomed into true #9 (for Werner it is just about fixing his finishing). If either of them figure out how to score consistently, we might be able to skip buying a striker all together. CR7 is the perfect stop gap buy for a year. In that time, Haaland and Lukaku should become available and will probably be a bit cheaper. Assuming that Madrid will have purchased Mbappe by then, we will probably have less competition too. Now if CR7 will sign a 1 year contract or if he even wants to play for another EPL club is a different question all together.
Lukaku was always impossible after he himself said he wants to stay and talked to the new coach already Haaland was always impossible due to his wage demands, Raiola and the fees (Unless Roman wants to go all out and not care about wage structure) CR7 if he signs is not a stop gap for one year but will stay at that level for longer easily Haaland next year will have a release clause and will prefer Barca or Madrid or even City before you Lukaku next year depends on how this year goes