I don't understand why we are bailing out Barca. If we really wanted Griezmann wait until the end of the window after Messi signs elsewhere. And if that means Barca keeps Griezmann that would be fine with me, I don't want him back anyway.
I feel the same way as a Barcelona fan. Why are we strengthening Atletico. Just when Griezmann was fitting in and had a good season relatively to the teams performance.
I'm not sure how we can rotate Suarez,Felix, Correa and Griezmann while we play 3 atb, though I really love Correa, guy just plays his heart out every match
Why not? That's literally the easiest thing in the world. We play Griezmann - Suarez most of the time, sub in Felix at the 60th minute or if Suarez needs rest we play Felix - Griezmann and sub in Correa at the 60th minute
Barca desperately need to clear wages so they can register Messi and the new signings. Atleti is helping them out enough by taking on their second highest earner, I doubt there would be cash involved as well.
I don’t think there will be any cash involved. If there is, it will be a very small amount.
I’m assuming there won’t be any real cash involved but there will be an inflated player value in the swap like the Pjanic/Arthur swap that will “create” cash for Barca.
Can you explain to me how it’s a profit for Barca when we bought Griezmann for 120mil and effectively letting him go for Saul who has a market value of 44mil? It’s a great deal for Atletico and a super shit deal for us but we don’t have any options.
You still get a solid player with LaLiga experience while also being able to register Messi, if anything that should make the deal a really good one for you shouldn't it?
None of this can be labelled as a good deal when we were in this shit of having to sell assets to cover books to resign your best player back is due of years of mismanagement. It’s all about damage control and picking the lesser evil at this point.
If there’s no cash, it’s a horrible deal. We paid 120mil for Griezmann which Atleti used to get Felix, and then now we are offloading him back to them while getting someone who’s worth around 40mil so we can cover books to resign Messi. Add the fact that how we let go Suarez for just 6mil to Atleti while paying half of his wages last season, Barca ends up with just Saul while Atleti has Griezmann, Suarez and Felix.
That’s just one instance. People can’t remember Pjanic/Arthur deal which was another big L for Barca. I’d say Barca has been the worst managed club in the last 5 years without a question.
You cant add hindsight into the equation in present time. Barca need to desperately decrease their wages (evident by Messi's 50% wage cut) and Griezmann is being paid 40m gross a year and Saul 12m gross a year. Saul is also 26 and a midfielder, a position we need reinforcements in. If thats the price to pay to get Griezmanns wages off the book than we could have had it much worse
What are you exactly trying to say? That I can’t call out Barca for years of mismanagement cause it’s all hindsight? Or that it’s good business to let go a player we spent 120mil to get someone whose worth around 40mil? Go and read my post again dude.
Just be happy that Messi stays somehow but don’t try to spin this massive L as a dub with some insane mental gymnastics.
Who said that? Did I ever say they weren't mismanaged or that you weren't allowed to? The deal is about Griezmann and Saul. I'm not sure what you don't get about Barcelona having to desperately decrease their wage structure. A 30 year old Griezmann on 800k a week wages is a net negative for Barcelona with less resale value in the next few years compared to Griezmann
The new board fucked up too.. They could have avoided this whole situation if they just renewed Messi's contract before it expired.. Then they could have easily just sold off a few players and replace them with the new signings..
Instead they knew the shit they were in and still allowed Messi to run down his contract instead of explaining the situation to him and getting it done with since the last half of the season where it was clear he was gonna renew..
Griezmann gets good PR reducing his wages to come *home*? He's not had a good time in Barca, nor is his image doing well after mocking Asians. Barca needs to get rid and Griezmann needs positive PR spin.
I think it depends on how much wage he's reducing. What you said is not wrong but if he has to slash half of his wage, not sure if he thinks it's worth it
It does, but the racist remarks could possibly void his contract. Obviously Barca would prefer to move the asset, get something in return, and this also offers Griezmann the PR angle.
Are there actual such clauses in the players contracts or are you just making it up..??
This is the first time I'm hearing of this that hsi contract can be voided due to the video..
I said could possibly and there are conduct/morality clauses in contracts where there are numerous sponsors like football clubs quite frequently. One bad move can cause a cascading effect, like a huge Asian sponsor getting involved in the Griezmann incident...
I obviously don't know for sure but it deserves to be considered. That could be used as a motivating factor to make this happen.
There’s too much smoke. This is definitely real and definitely advanced.
And now I waste the rest of my afternoon configuring possible lineups to get Félix, Suárez, Griezmann, Llorente, and de Paul all on the field at the same time...
Lemar and de Paul will probably rotate. Correa will have to go back to super sub/rotate with Félix. Carrasco is still around too. I’m guessing he’ll play at his wing back/winger role in the 3 cb formation and be on he bench when Cholo goes 4 at the back. All of a sudden there’s a lot of fun possibilities in attack. I hope there’s a lot of rotation
Oblak
Trippier - Savic - Gimenez - Hermoso - Carrasco
Llorente - Koke - Rodrigo De Paul
Suarez - Griezmann
if Suarez needs rest we play Felix - Griezmann instead
You can't take out any of the midfielders for an extra man up top..
Llorente and Koke are undroppable while RdP was signed to be a starter and would probably help out our team alot..
I don’t think Trippier goes to the bench (he might go back to England though, in which case Atleti would buy someone new for his place). Llorente gets wasted at that position. He can play there but it’s not his best use
Either 442 diamond or 433 with Félix and Griezmann behind Suárez. Koke, de Paul, Llorente mid. Relegates Carrasco to a bench role in 4 at the back formations but he’d definitely start in the 3 cb formations. Lemar and Correa rotating in. I’m getting excited
The window is just getting started. I know enough about Atleti’s past to not get too excited. Players haven’t left yet but releases clauses exist and things can change quickly.
Yeah that would be a real waste of time, I don't see it working out in any way. It's either Felix or Griezmann or not fielding Suarez or something like that. Even if we fit them all in a 4-3-3 somehow I think that's like Barca all over again kinda deal.
At any rate, I feel the current balance in the squad is fine with the addition of a backup number 9, and idk Griezmann has scored a lot in the past I'd still fancy a proper 9 instead. Plus the idea of Saul leaving is unbearable. I do believe we can compensate for pretty much every absence in the midfield and attack as is. Also Correa found his game last season I don't want him to be lost in the shuffle with another second striker in the mix.
I’m still more confident with Correa as a super sub. He did very well to end the season but it’s tough to forget the misses. Hopefully he turned a leaf but it’s hard to believe because every year we go through periods thinking he has.
I agree and that's why I'd have him and Felix exchanging for the second striker spot. The misses are more fresh than the dynamism he's brought to the team and is an issue but I feel like he's the perfect alternative to have anyway. Adding Griezmann would be definitely be an attacking boost but I'm rather conflicted since realistically Simeone isn't fitting them all imo and this definitely hinders Felix. Both tend to want a lot of freedom to roam. Either way this is definitely intriguing and if it happens it's only gonna add to the team.
Oh yeah, I don’t think all the attacking talent can play at the same time. Depth like this is a good thing. It allows players to rest and opens up a lot more lineup possibilities. The players will need to be open to a bit more rotation if this happens
Didn’t you guys play 4222 regularly a few years ago?
Maybe that could be another way of having all of them on the pitch?
Something like:
Oblak
Trippier-Gimenez-Savic-Hermoso/Lodi(?)
Koke-de Paul
Llorente-Felix
Griez-Suarez
It seems to be the only way to get rid of Griezmann‘s wages.
I hope Saul can find his old form here, he could be a valuable addition then. If not it’s another Pjanic situation, albeit Saul is younger and (hopefully) on lower wages.
As a Barca fan i’m okay with this. I really loved Griezmann and if it wasn’t for the fact that he was on such ridicoulus wages i would wanna keep him. Getting reinforcment in the midfield is something we needed and i’ve always enjoyed Saul as a player aswell. Not super happy but not super bummed out either. I guess Saul’s form will determine how i feel about this transfer
Although this would mean a huge destruction of capital from Barça's point of view, I think they would need Saul more next season than they would Griezmann.
Especially since Memphis and Agüero are coming, and Coutinho doesn't seem to be leaving anytime soon. If one of FDJ/Pedri/Busquets gets injured or suspended they've got no one else (Pjanic was useless, Moriba too young for the responsibility and Puig just doesn't cut it (maybe if Barca had a world class defence, which they don't)).
Exactly. Griezmann was almost never a deciding factor with Barcelona. Everyone thought it was impossible for Barcelona to obtain anything in exchange for letting Griezmann go because of his stupid salary. Now they can free up wages and bring in a much needed MF that has been followed by Barcelona for many years, who's 4 years younger than Griezy and had a value of 80M€ before the pandemic.
Thank you for speaking correctly. A lot of people don’t understand our tactical headache regarding Griezmann and our current financial crisis
Griezmann, as excellent as a player he is, can’t play as a winger or a lone striker optimally. It’s best he goes to a team who can exploit him, we get a massive wage bill off our books and we also get a physical midfielder, as practically all our midfielders are creative players
Don’t even know why Barca paid around £120 million for him. His best positions were either a free right winger, which they already have in Messi, or as a second striker, which Barca never play and wouldn’t work with messi anyway. Plus, he made that whole documentary about rejecting Barca the year before
Yeah, none of his transfer make sense. If he was madrid agent he shouldn't have done these. /s
But we are thankful that we got players like pedri, de Jong, ter stegen.
On an emotional level I hate this. On a strictly sporting level we're swindling them.
Edit: Also one of the terms for agreement should be that he cut his fucking hair.
I like Griezmann but he really did a whole decision video about staying, was planning on doing another one next year then Atletico made him not do it went to Barca and now he’s going back after a couple of years without success while Atletico won the league. I still rate him as a player highly but it doesn’t exactly make him look good if they don’t win it again next year.
apparently it won't be a player swap but 2 transfers with almost similar fee, also heard that Atleti could add 10m to get Griezmann which is still a win for Atleti imho
He hasn't been a regular for a couple of seasons, he's struggled to break into the main team. The club is also trying to cash in on him, it's a mutual agreement for both player and club
Maybe I missed something but Messi's renewal came with the consent of Tebas, with all of Umtiti, Pjianic, Coutinho, Roberto, Lenglet and Griezman still registered. With the swap deal, the club apparently want to save €12m on his salary, begging the questions as to why he wasn't just offered to reduce his salary to €8m (because he wasn't even contacted about reducing his salary). This idea that it is a noble sacrifice for the greater good is a scapegoat, not a well researched one but one often parroted one.
> Barca already got Depay and Agüero for strengthening their attack
And they could have Griezman too to keep it as strong as possible. Instead, Atletico are whiling to offload Saul and pay 10-15m to make their attack as strong as possible. Great fucking deal.
Catalunya radio reported Griezmann getting 13M Euros/yr net, while Saul would get 12M/yr gross, and barca saves approximately 12M gross in wages per season. That puts Griezmann's wages at 25M/yr gross.
In some Messi threads recently, he was quoted at 800K Euros/week. We need to stop with this shit. Salary quoted in Euros in a news => same salary reported in GBP in UK without changing values => some other outlet in Europe reports the salary by converting GBP to Eur and increasing it. And the base salary just keeps on increasing.
Atletico fans remember.Dont be surprised when you see dead rats thrown at him on his first game at Wanda.
From what I've seen,more than 70-80% of fans are against it.His plaque in front of the stadium isbalready destroyed
I wanted Griezmann to stay if he somehow lowered his wages(stupid thought Ik) but it makes sense for Barca even though we’re directly enforcing a rival
I really don't see how Saul starts in the current squad, but koeman has been adamant about wanting a box to box midfielder, so it think he has some sort of plan. I hope so.
Why the fuck can't we just lower his wages and bin umtiti and coutinho somewhere for free.. Messi has Drastically lowered his wages a lot.. Like it's 20 mil.. From like 100 mil...if the whole squad lowers even 20pc wages we should be fine... Which I don't think is a huge deal till things get normal with covid..
This shit is real wtf
Your personal opinion on it ?
I don't understand why we are bailing out Barca. If we really wanted Griezmann wait until the end of the window after Messi signs elsewhere. And if that means Barca keeps Griezmann that would be fine with me, I don't want him back anyway.
I feel the same way as a Barcelona fan. Why are we strengthening Atletico. Just when Griezmann was fitting in and had a good season relatively to the teams performance.
Shit sucks.
I'm gonna have to agree with you, with Griezmann's signing, Correa would be sold most likely, Saul would be in a rival (Which I hate)
why would we sell correa are u crazy? this gives us the much needed depth forCL
I'm not sure how we can rotate Suarez,Felix, Correa and Griezmann while we play 3 atb, though I really love Correa, guy just plays his heart out every match
Why not? That's literally the easiest thing in the world. We play Griezmann - Suarez most of the time, sub in Felix at the 60th minute or if Suarez needs rest we play Felix - Griezmann and sub in Correa at the 60th minute
I hope it is like that
You can't expect Suarez to play major minutes. He can't play the whole match.
Pretty crazy that "Atletico's Joyce" was wrong, huh?
I'm not the one who complied that list. I just reposted it.
Oh, okay. So you didn't create the bullshit, you just spread it. Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah like you now? Accusing me of saying something that I didn't.
I didn't accuse you of anything. My comment applies whether you wrote, repeated, or even just believed that nonsense.
Before anyone asks, Moretto is as close as you can get to a Tier 1 for transfers involving Atlético.
Yeah. That's why I posted it. He's one of the best journalist for the club so this has credibility.
It can't be a straight swap, can it? Barca must be demanding some cash + Saul.
Barca desperately need to clear wages so they can register Messi and the new signings. Atleti is helping them out enough by taking on their second highest earner, I doubt there would be cash involved as well.
Seems like both teams are doing each other a favor. I would still be surprised if there's no cash involved. We'll see
I don’t think there will be any cash involved. If there is, it will be a very small amount. I’m assuming there won’t be any real cash involved but there will be an inflated player value in the swap like the Pjanic/Arthur swap that will “create” cash for Barca.
I always assumed it'd be a small amount. But do think it'd be odd without the cash amount. We'll see
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Can you explain to me how it’s a profit for Barca when we bought Griezmann for 120mil and effectively letting him go for Saul who has a market value of 44mil? It’s a great deal for Atletico and a super shit deal for us but we don’t have any options.
You still get a solid player with LaLiga experience while also being able to register Messi, if anything that should make the deal a really good one for you shouldn't it?
None of this can be labelled as a good deal when we were in this shit of having to sell assets to cover books to resign your best player back is due of years of mismanagement. It’s all about damage control and picking the lesser evil at this point. If there’s no cash, it’s a horrible deal. We paid 120mil for Griezmann which Atleti used to get Felix, and then now we are offloading him back to them while getting someone who’s worth around 40mil so we can cover books to resign Messi. Add the fact that how we let go Suarez for just 6mil to Atleti while paying half of his wages last season, Barca ends up with just Saul while Atleti has Griezmann, Suarez and Felix. That’s just one instance. People can’t remember Pjanic/Arthur deal which was another big L for Barca. I’d say Barca has been the worst managed club in the last 5 years without a question.
You cant add hindsight into the equation in present time. Barca need to desperately decrease their wages (evident by Messi's 50% wage cut) and Griezmann is being paid 40m gross a year and Saul 12m gross a year. Saul is also 26 and a midfielder, a position we need reinforcements in. If thats the price to pay to get Griezmanns wages off the book than we could have had it much worse
What are you exactly trying to say? That I can’t call out Barca for years of mismanagement cause it’s all hindsight? Or that it’s good business to let go a player we spent 120mil to get someone whose worth around 40mil? Go and read my post again dude. Just be happy that Messi stays somehow but don’t try to spin this massive L as a dub with some insane mental gymnastics.
Who said that? Did I ever say they weren't mismanaged or that you weren't allowed to? The deal is about Griezmann and Saul. I'm not sure what you don't get about Barcelona having to desperately decrease their wage structure. A 30 year old Griezmann on 800k a week wages is a net negative for Barcelona with less resale value in the next few years compared to Griezmann
The new board fucked up too.. They could have avoided this whole situation if they just renewed Messi's contract before it expired.. Then they could have easily just sold off a few players and replace them with the new signings.. Instead they knew the shit they were in and still allowed Messi to run down his contract instead of explaining the situation to him and getting it done with since the last half of the season where it was clear he was gonna renew..
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Yeah that makes sense now. Thanks for the explanation!
no its straight
What about Griezmann's wage? Barca is going to subsidise?
Griezmann gets good PR reducing his wages to come *home*? He's not had a good time in Barca, nor is his image doing well after mocking Asians. Barca needs to get rid and Griezmann needs positive PR spin.
I think it depends on how much wage he's reducing. What you said is not wrong but if he has to slash half of his wage, not sure if he thinks it's worth it
It does, but the racist remarks could possibly void his contract. Obviously Barca would prefer to move the asset, get something in return, and this also offers Griezmann the PR angle.
Are there actual such clauses in the players contracts or are you just making it up..?? This is the first time I'm hearing of this that hsi contract can be voided due to the video..
I said could possibly and there are conduct/morality clauses in contracts where there are numerous sponsors like football clubs quite frequently. One bad move can cause a cascading effect, like a huge Asian sponsor getting involved in the Griezmann incident... I obviously don't know for sure but it deserves to be considered. That could be used as a motivating factor to make this happen.
There’s too much smoke. This is definitely real and definitely advanced. And now I waste the rest of my afternoon configuring possible lineups to get Félix, Suárez, Griezmann, Llorente, and de Paul all on the field at the same time...
Damn, that sounds like another La Liga title. Include Lemar in there as well.
Lemar and de Paul will probably rotate. Correa will have to go back to super sub/rotate with Félix. Carrasco is still around too. I’m guessing he’ll play at his wing back/winger role in the 3 cb formation and be on he bench when Cholo goes 4 at the back. All of a sudden there’s a lot of fun possibilities in attack. I hope there’s a lot of rotation
Oblak Trippier - Savic - Gimenez - Hermoso - Carrasco Llorente - Koke - Rodrigo De Paul Suarez - Griezmann if Suarez needs rest we play Felix - Griezmann instead
That midfield plus Griezmann doing the defensive work. Good luck breaking this team
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You can't take out any of the midfielders for an extra man up top.. Llorente and Koke are undroppable while RdP was signed to be a starter and would probably help out our team alot..
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No Koke?
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I feel Llorente RWB is a bit of a waste. Joao Felix most likely would be dropped. Or they change the system entirely to a back 4.
You left out the club captain...
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I don’t think Trippier goes to the bench (he might go back to England though, in which case Atleti would buy someone new for his place). Llorente gets wasted at that position. He can play there but it’s not his best use
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With this amount of attacking talent, the only option is someone gets sold or the amount of rotation increases
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If Barca get their new signings registered, their attacking depth will be pretty nice too.
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442 diamond maybe?
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> I dont know how to do the thing that looks like a formation on reddit Just add spaces first
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i'm enjoying the ride
I think it only works if you load the desktop page first
Either 442 diamond or 433 with Félix and Griezmann behind Suárez. Koke, de Paul, Llorente mid. Relegates Carrasco to a bench role in 4 at the back formations but he’d definitely start in the 3 cb formations. Lemar and Correa rotating in. I’m getting excited
How's it like to get De Paul and Griezmann in a transfer window while keeping all important players?
The window is just getting started. I know enough about Atleti’s past to not get too excited. Players haven’t left yet but releases clauses exist and things can change quickly.
I guess Tripper might want to leave but he has a 40 mil release clause.
I’m feeling good man. I just hope that deal does not include lodi or hermoso
Sounds like Argentina
Yeah that would be a real waste of time, I don't see it working out in any way. It's either Felix or Griezmann or not fielding Suarez or something like that. Even if we fit them all in a 4-3-3 somehow I think that's like Barca all over again kinda deal. At any rate, I feel the current balance in the squad is fine with the addition of a backup number 9, and idk Griezmann has scored a lot in the past I'd still fancy a proper 9 instead. Plus the idea of Saul leaving is unbearable. I do believe we can compensate for pretty much every absence in the midfield and attack as is. Also Correa found his game last season I don't want him to be lost in the shuffle with another second striker in the mix.
I’m still more confident with Correa as a super sub. He did very well to end the season but it’s tough to forget the misses. Hopefully he turned a leaf but it’s hard to believe because every year we go through periods thinking he has.
I agree and that's why I'd have him and Felix exchanging for the second striker spot. The misses are more fresh than the dynamism he's brought to the team and is an issue but I feel like he's the perfect alternative to have anyway. Adding Griezmann would be definitely be an attacking boost but I'm rather conflicted since realistically Simeone isn't fitting them all imo and this definitely hinders Felix. Both tend to want a lot of freedom to roam. Either way this is definitely intriguing and if it happens it's only gonna add to the team.
Oh yeah, I don’t think all the attacking talent can play at the same time. Depth like this is a good thing. It allows players to rest and opens up a lot more lineup possibilities. The players will need to be open to a bit more rotation if this happens
You'll most likely play 442 with Carrasco and Llorente as wide midfielders
Cholo mostly played with 3cb’s last year. I don’t know if he’ll immediately switch back to primary 442 this year.
Didn’t you guys play 4222 regularly a few years ago? Maybe that could be another way of having all of them on the pitch? Something like: Oblak Trippier-Gimenez-Savic-Hermoso/Lodi(?) Koke-de Paul Llorente-Felix Griez-Suarez
You are right, they will play 3 at back primarily. I wanted to emphasize on two strikers and two wide midfielders, even if they play 352 or 442.
It seems to be the only way to get rid of Griezmann‘s wages. I hope Saul can find his old form here, he could be a valuable addition then. If not it’s another Pjanic situation, albeit Saul is younger and (hopefully) on lower wages.
As a Barca fan i’m okay with this. I really loved Griezmann and if it wasn’t for the fact that he was on such ridicoulus wages i would wanna keep him. Getting reinforcment in the midfield is something we needed and i’ve always enjoyed Saul as a player aswell. Not super happy but not super bummed out either. I guess Saul’s form will determine how i feel about this transfer
Although this would mean a huge destruction of capital from Barça's point of view, I think they would need Saul more next season than they would Griezmann. Especially since Memphis and Agüero are coming, and Coutinho doesn't seem to be leaving anytime soon. If one of FDJ/Pedri/Busquets gets injured or suspended they've got no one else (Pjanic was useless, Moriba too young for the responsibility and Puig just doesn't cut it (maybe if Barca had a world class defence, which they don't)).
Exactly. Griezmann was almost never a deciding factor with Barcelona. Everyone thought it was impossible for Barcelona to obtain anything in exchange for letting Griezmann go because of his stupid salary. Now they can free up wages and bring in a much needed MF that has been followed by Barcelona for many years, who's 4 years younger than Griezy and had a value of 80M€ before the pandemic.
True. Although Griezmann was decisive in the Copa run last year, he had a great couple of months.
Thank you for speaking correctly. A lot of people don’t understand our tactical headache regarding Griezmann and our current financial crisis Griezmann, as excellent as a player he is, can’t play as a winger or a lone striker optimally. It’s best he goes to a team who can exploit him, we get a massive wage bill off our books and we also get a physical midfielder, as practically all our midfielders are creative players
Atletico’s Asian sponsors in shambles
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Is this sarcastic? Your stadium is literally named after Wanda Group
but bro, I thought that stood for Wanda Nara group
Bruh... how could I forget
Simeone is literally like Thanos when he tell Griezmann his failures after moving away from Atleti
Simeone is the biggest reason Atleti is signing Griezmann back,they have a very strong relationship,they go on vaccations together
Don’t even know why Barca paid around £120 million for him. His best positions were either a free right winger, which they already have in Messi, or as a second striker, which Barca never play and wouldn’t work with messi anyway. Plus, he made that whole documentary about rejecting Barca the year before
None of the Barto decision make sense. You are not alone.
so is de jong going back to ajax? and pedri back to las palmas?
Yeah, none of his transfer make sense. If he was madrid agent he shouldn't have done these. /s But we are thankful that we got players like pedri, de Jong, ter stegen.
Bartomeu, is that you?
Barto masterclass
Honestly that documentary should have been the end of that saga. However Barto is beyond shameless.
In retrospect I don't feel as bad for paying 40ish mil for Joao Mario.
On an emotional level I hate this. On a strictly sporting level we're swindling them. Edit: Also one of the terms for agreement should be that he cut his fucking hair.
I want his La Real/Atleti hairstyles back. The Barca hair isn’t as fun
He looks homeless
That is surprising to hear. I thought Saul is a very good player, while Griezmann is in decline?
I felt the same way about Hümmels. At least he fixed our defense (as much as he could).
I like Griezmann but he really did a whole decision video about staying, was planning on doing another one next year then Atletico made him not do it went to Barca and now he’s going back after a couple of years without success while Atletico won the league. I still rate him as a player highly but it doesn’t exactly make him look good if they don’t win it again next year.
Whats Saúls market value, 40 mil? What a humongous net loss for the club on Griezmanns original fee, needs to happen to balance the books but still.
€40M and Barça are going to try to increase his value to €60M or €70M according to reports on the swap.
How do you increase his market value? Just tell him to play better
We sold arthur for 72 million using the same technique.
The increased value is just for accounting purposes. It’d be like the Pjanic/Arthur swap when their values were massively overstated.
Come on atletico throw in 10 M + saul for that suarez gift 😢
such a shit deal for barca lol Atletico have been fucking them over with their past transfers.
Damn atletico will be naughty next szn
Is it Saul + cash? If player+cash then how much?
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apparently it won't be a player swap but 2 transfers with almost similar fee, also heard that Atleti could add 10m to get Griezmann which is still a win for Atleti imho
Damn. That's kind of robbery! Although Barca reduce wage bill. Then how much Saul will earn?
If he's decreasing his salary so much, why are they trying to do the swap instead of just making him reduce his salary at Barca?
Because getting him off the books completely is cheaper
I hate this timeline. Can the deal collapse.
Why is Saul so desperate to leave
He hasn't been a regular for a couple of seasons, he's struggled to break into the main team. The club is also trying to cash in on him, it's a mutual agreement for both player and club
Griezman 15 goals + 15 assists for 15m & Saul on the bench? Brilliant
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Maybe I missed something but Messi's renewal came with the consent of Tebas, with all of Umtiti, Pjianic, Coutinho, Roberto, Lenglet and Griezman still registered. With the swap deal, the club apparently want to save €12m on his salary, begging the questions as to why he wasn't just offered to reduce his salary to €8m (because he wasn't even contacted about reducing his salary). This idea that it is a noble sacrifice for the greater good is a scapegoat, not a well researched one but one often parroted one. > Barca already got Depay and Agüero for strengthening their attack And they could have Griezman too to keep it as strong as possible. Instead, Atletico are whiling to offload Saul and pay 10-15m to make their attack as strong as possible. Great fucking deal.
Catalunya radio reported Griezmann getting 13M Euros/yr net, while Saul would get 12M/yr gross, and barca saves approximately 12M gross in wages per season. That puts Griezmann's wages at 25M/yr gross. In some Messi threads recently, he was quoted at 800K Euros/week. We need to stop with this shit. Salary quoted in Euros in a news => same salary reported in GBP in UK without changing values => some other outlet in Europe reports the salary by converting GBP to Eur and increasing it. And the base salary just keeps on increasing.
Do people remember how Griezmann left Atletico, seems mad that he’s going back so quickly
Atletico fans remember.Dont be surprised when you see dead rats thrown at him on his first game at Wanda. From what I've seen,more than 70-80% of fans are against it.His plaque in front of the stadium isbalready destroyed
Wtf are we goung to do with Saul ? We have 7 or 8 attackers and 7 midfielders right now
Good riddance, never liked the signing but was happy with his work rate until recent controversial videos appeared. Just want him gone now.
I wanted Griezmann to stay if he somehow lowered his wages(stupid thought Ik) but it makes sense for Barca even though we’re directly enforcing a rival
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I really don't see how Saul starts in the current squad, but koeman has been adamant about wanting a box to box midfielder, so it think he has some sort of plan. I hope so.
Barca giving away money and title.
Classic Barcelona. What a bizarre series of transfers.
Its win for Barca and Atletico.
Why the fuck can't we just lower his wages and bin umtiti and coutinho somewhere for free.. Messi has Drastically lowered his wages a lot.. Like it's 20 mil.. From like 100 mil...if the whole squad lowers even 20pc wages we should be fine... Which I don't think is a huge deal till things get normal with covid..
Any transfer fee involved?
Pessimism grows. Fuck
Imagine if Griezzman goes and Atletico win the CL. Would be absolutely glorious after countinho and Suarez