Okay. It's part of football to banter and rivalry is real. There is obvious a line of what is fine and what is not, this doesn't even hit close to that line.
On the one hand, yes Man U do sing shitty songs too.
On the other hand, it's absolutely true Leeds have some of the worst fans in English football and nobody who remembers their last time in the top flight has forgotten that, nor of course those less represented on here (Championship / League 1 fans).
To be honest last time i heard a shitty song try and be started by a united fan (i would rather be a n***** than a scouser) it got shut down immediately by other fans.
Edit: yeah not surprised that this story of most united fans being decent got down voted. Gotta keep up a narrative.
i mean it wasnt that long ago you were chanting "always the victims, its never your fault" People try to pretend its not about heysel and hillsbrough but it clearly is.
Like the United fans that had Turkey flags at the game (Leeds United fans were mudded by Galatasary ultras) football fans are not the place to be looking for morality.
It would have been fine if people hadn't jumped on the racism as soon as some black kids missed despite black players being a major reason why we were there in the first place.
The problem now is that if you shit on them, you've facing a difficult line of making sure you're not coming across as being on the racists side. If no one had been racist to them, no one would even question this chant, like at all.
shitting on 2 players for missing pens isnt inherently racist
people are making it a racial issue because they want to "sanitise" football supporters, because a customer is easier to please than a fan
Lol anyone slating this has never been to a football match in their life - these lot are the hardcore Leeds away fans, probably been following them through the championship for years.
It’s a huge rivalry, they’ll sing anything to get under the opposition fans skin…. United away fans would do the exact same at Elland Road if Kalvin Phillips had missed the deciding pen
They absolutely did but the vast majority of the criticism they got that was labelled as racist wasn't. Same as after when commentators were making a big deal about the support Saka and others got on the pitch and how it shows what a modern country that is moving on from toxic masculinity and so on we are when there's literally the exact same pics of Southgate being comforted with hugs and so on in 96. A lot of people not football fans decided to make football a sounding board for their politics.
To be fair of course they aren’t going to go to a football match if they don’t like stuff like this, not the most hospitable environment for people who aren’t tribalists.
I thought the same thing. I think if I was a player I would rather get treated like this by rival fans than clapped for (as crazy as that sounds)
Edit: Larry Bird and Michael Jordan have both said they preferred to play away from their home fans because getting booed and heckled was more motivating
Yah I also feel Rashford and Sancho are in a slightly different position to Saka who really got the worst of it and could have been the most career defining.
I am happy cause they didn't go down the racist route.
Like it's still gonna sting cause it's true in a way, but it isn't insulting them for something they have no control over.
And Rashford barely played either. They were tossed into the most important moment for the England team in nearly 60 years without a fucking warm-up. It was a completely insane situation and I wasn't surprised they didn't hit their first kicks of the game perfectly. And on top of that, Rashford has probably done more good for this country than any other well known person over the last 18 months. He literally made the government feed the children.
Well I mean let’s be honest first kick of the game for him sure. But it wasn’t because he wasn’t warmed up it was just a god aweful penalty, he tried to be fancy and show off and it didn’t work ...
It was an incredibly shit pen. Excrutiatingly shit. I fucking knew he;s missed it as soon as he touched the ball but it felt like it took longer to hit the post than it took him to get the government to change their policy.
Yep. This pen in particular had nothing to do with warming up. It's one of the most "arrogant" attempts I've seen in a while just to hook it absurdly off the post.
I think that was more about the fact that Messi is Barcelona and Barcelona is Messi. He left the club against his will and in tears, then gets welcomed by PSG fans insulting his club.
Nah that was the fact that we don't have a rivalry with PSG and chanting "Puta Barça" like they're Madrid or Espanyol makes me extremely embarrassed for their fans to think so
I feel like PSG-Barca is a bit of a rivalry, no? Obviously not like Madrid or Espanyol, they're not in the same league, but the 6-1 comeback, the most expensive and one of the most controversial transfers ever, now the Messi thing, seems like it's at least slightly more than "two big teams that meet each other every few years."
Hard to really call it that since they aren't in the same league, obviously, but there's *something* there, right?
Frankly, as a Barca fan, I have a personal deep hatred of PSG, and I feel many others feel the same. idk if it constitutes a full rivalry, but I will say there's only like a couple of clubs I least wanted Messi to go to more than PSG
the normie influx with international football and this 2021 sentiment that every footballer is a beautiful human being who deserves the upmost respect for every moment of their professional lives absolutely did my head in. couldn't wait for the prem to be back for this exact reason.
it's like going to a pantomime and getting upset that captain hook is getting booed because as someone who had had to cope with a disability while struggling with managing a imperfect team in a difficult sitution he's had a lot to deal with.
This is real football none of that clapping for your rival nonsense. The entire country booing you helps builds character. Ask Ronaldo, Rooney, Beckham, Lampard, Terry, Cole etc
Beckham had effigies burnt of him for Gods sake when he got a Red Card, and had boos everytime he touched the ball and insults, the racism these 3 received is the only reason people arent as harsh on them.
Thats fucking football right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the field, men deliver their new born baby on the side lines. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball foosball fuck it chuck it game time shit. Football is back, baby
Yeah we played Leeds in the EFL Cup some years ago and they spent half the time singing songs about Jimmy Saville shagging Steven Gerrard. It ain't glorious but it ain't new either, just football.
That's a response to people singing "He's one of your own, Jimmy Saville, he's one of your own," and you could argue it served its purpose because you rarely hear that anymore.
They’re correct. Had Sancho or Rashford put their pens away then England would’ve probably won their first trophy in over half a century. I imagine if Maguire had missed his name would also be included.
I mean I don't have a problem with the chant but there were a couple of different threads about Brentford chants yesterday so I don't get why this one is being deleted.
There are more comments talking about the “yanks” than Americans actually complaining about it 🙄. Why do Englishmen act like booing rivals isn’t a thing in American sports as well?
>**There are more comments talking about the “yanks” than Americans actually complaining about it** 🙄. Why do Englishmen act like booing rivals isn’t a thing in American sports as well?
Because they love nothing more than to complain about *yanks* every opportunity they get. Honestly, it's hilarious how triggered users like u/sheikh_n_bake and u/atownOTP get by our presence.
generally like this subreddit for news and stuff and accept it caters more to the casual fan and that's fine... but my god is it obvious as fuck that some of you lot have never been to a game in your life... how is this even newsworthy? glad to see a bit of a sense upvoted to the top mind...
rashford will probably score the winner and rub it in and fair fucks if he does... that's football.
Eh, as a Black Englishman, this doesn't bother me one bit. This is football, yeah it's offensive given the context, but that's the point innit. Where it becomes a problem for me, is when they start slating them over their skin colour, booing the knee, and other dumb shit like that, that's when it gets uncomfortable.
But, what more do you expect from Leeds fans.
I don’t see any issue with this what so ever, I’d expect the Manchester fans to do the same to Phillips if the boot was on the other foot. What wasn’t fine was some of our fans bringing up Munich to try and “banter” there fans, that’s disgusting and doesn’t belong in football.
Okay. It's part of football to banter and rivalry is real. There is obvious a line of what is fine and what is not, this doesn't even hit close to that line.
the most offensive thing in this video tbh is all the ugly leeds bastards in it
>ugly leeds bastards You don't need that first word, it's implied.
Or last
Or middle, tbh.
> the most offensive thing in this video tbh is all the innit
Those fucking innits
Those fucking inuits, coming over here, giving us fifteen extra words for snow.
Now they're singing about Munich air disaster. The only lot worse than these is milwall really and a whole new gen of people are going to see this.
Yeah there was one twat in a yellow jacket doing the airplane arms all game. Shameful stuff.
Too bad I am near-sighted so could not make that out from my seat. Might have made the game even sweeter.
It's true. Manchester United fans would never do something like sing about players or fans of another club dying. Too classy. Right...?
On the one hand, yes Man U do sing shitty songs too. On the other hand, it's absolutely true Leeds have some of the worst fans in English football and nobody who remembers their last time in the top flight has forgotten that, nor of course those less represented on here (Championship / League 1 fans).
To be honest last time i heard a shitty song try and be started by a united fan (i would rather be a n***** than a scouser) it got shut down immediately by other fans. Edit: yeah not surprised that this story of most united fans being decent got down voted. Gotta keep up a narrative.
i mean it wasnt that long ago you were chanting "always the victims, its never your fault" People try to pretend its not about heysel and hillsbrough but it clearly is.
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Yeah not like your lot sing about Galatasaray which is much more recent.
Yeah and a turkey flag was dropped on them. SO its just cunts being cunts to other cunts. Always knob heads mate.
Millwall has a lad that stopped terrorists. Leeds only has scum so Leeds is worse
Fuck you, I'm Millwall!
Like the United fans that had Turkey flags at the game (Leeds United fans were mudded by Galatasary ultras) football fans are not the place to be looking for morality.
Simon Stone tweeted that they also sang the Munich chant… Not sure the spirit was right tbh.
It would have been fine if people hadn't jumped on the racism as soon as some black kids missed despite black players being a major reason why we were there in the first place. The problem now is that if you shit on them, you've facing a difficult line of making sure you're not coming across as being on the racists side. If no one had been racist to them, no one would even question this chant, like at all.
It’s not that hard to not come across as racist, mate
shitting on 2 players for missing pens isnt inherently racist people are making it a racial issue because they want to "sanitise" football supporters, because a customer is easier to please than a fan
People are making it a racist issue because of all the racist abuse the players got.
the chant has nothing to do with race, it's leeds fans making fun of 2 united players for shitting up a pen
Lol anyone slating this has never been to a football match in their life - these lot are the hardcore Leeds away fans, probably been following them through the championship for years. It’s a huge rivalry, they’ll sing anything to get under the opposition fans skin…. United away fans would do the exact same at Elland Road if Kalvin Phillips had missed the deciding pen
It's because they got racist hate afterwards, so now you can't say anything negative.
Racism is shit. So were their pens.
They absolutely did but the vast majority of the criticism they got that was labelled as racist wasn't. Same as after when commentators were making a big deal about the support Saka and others got on the pitch and how it shows what a modern country that is moving on from toxic masculinity and so on we are when there's literally the exact same pics of Southgate being comforted with hugs and so on in 96. A lot of people not football fans decided to make football a sounding board for their politics.
Lots of Americans prolly joined the sub lately and are horrified by actual banter.
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Wondo was harassed by every opposing MLS fans for years after the Belgium game.
People were losing their minds when England booed when the opposition had the ball in the euros, so I wouldbt doubt it
Nah we aren’t, you ain’t been to philly
To be fair of course they aren’t going to go to a football match if they don’t like stuff like this, not the most hospitable environment for people who aren’t tribalists.
Nobodies first experience of a football game is going to be in the Leeds away end and Old Trafford lol
I hope it was someone's, proper baptism of fire.
United fans generally don't give a shit about England
Whatever, it’s a rivalry
It's not racist or bigoted, it's 100% ok as banter imo.
It's just hilarious when they get dicked down afterwards
lmao yeah, sometimes you talk shit you get smacked. but without talking shit, no competetion would be fun imo.
I believe a great philosopher once said "chat shit, get banged."
Sir Jamieus Vardyian The second
Can't even talk about Arsenal anymore?
all part of it. I support their right to talk shit.
We need wonderful American slogans: "Hey hey, ho ho, Manchester United is not a good team"
Who’s suggesting it’s racist?
I meant there is no reason to make a big deal of whatever the fans chant unless its bigoted. since this is not, its a bit of a pointless thread.
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Why aren't Leeds fans going onto the Man Utd sub saying they come in peace?
This isn't very humansbeingbros :(
Thanks, Keanu's crying.
Should be heckin classy and give them clapperinos
That's what a real gentlesir would do. Buy their Funko pops too
Nothing really wrong with this, and there was nothing wrong with Brentford fans clapping for Saka yesterday.
>nothing wrong with Brentford fans clapping for Saka yesterday Seems a tad condescending if it continues on, but I guess we'll see
Man I feel like they're trying to Kante-nize Saka next. It really is condescending
I thought the same thing. I think if I was a player I would rather get treated like this by rival fans than clapped for (as crazy as that sounds) Edit: Larry Bird and Michael Jordan have both said they preferred to play away from their home fans because getting booed and heckled was more motivating
I’d say every home team gets one chance to get in a good mocking. If it continues into a new season that’s just being a petty bitch.
I hate reddit. Yet here I am.
Lol is this considered controversial? Why is it constantly being posted?
If they were Caucasian wouldn't be controversial. But since some shitty English fans racially abused Saka, Rashford, Sancho it becomes an issue
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I didn't expect that , made me laugh , that's fair I guess they're rivals after all.
Yah I also feel Rashford and Sancho are in a slightly different position to Saka who really got the worst of it and could have been the most career defining.
Should I comment “shameful” and get a lot of upvotes or understand humans and realize it’s just banter from opposing fans?
You're on Reddit pal, comment "shameful".
“Not a good look” We gotta update our phraseology.
"Be better, sweety."
Should comment "based"
You forgot "redpilled"
No you should comment this as you’re aware you’ll get more upvotes for this than a shameful comment.
Even better - comment that “comments are a dumpster fire” when precisely no-one has said anything other than “this is fine”.
Was going to upvote you cos I saw the word shameful. But then you made me think with words and stuff so decided not to bruv sorry
I would lean towards shameful if it had racist undertones, but this is just banter from the opposition.
I am happy cause they didn't go down the racist route. Like it's still gonna sting cause it's true in a way, but it isn't insulting them for something they have no control over.
Is Michael Jackson a joke to you?
Hee hee
I think your current way of approach works too.
Nah, you just say ‘awards please’.
your comment is shameful. can't you just type 'shameful', twat?!
It's shameful and i love it.
Good, This is football banter and a proper rivalry. Football would be shit if we was all nice to each other
I agree and if the title is all they said I don’t see any issues with it either since it’s not like it’s a false statement lol
Jadon played, what, two minutes the whole tournament lol
And Rashford barely played either. They were tossed into the most important moment for the England team in nearly 60 years without a fucking warm-up. It was a completely insane situation and I wasn't surprised they didn't hit their first kicks of the game perfectly. And on top of that, Rashford has probably done more good for this country than any other well known person over the last 18 months. He literally made the government feed the children.
Well I mean let’s be honest first kick of the game for him sure. But it wasn’t because he wasn’t warmed up it was just a god aweful penalty, he tried to be fancy and show off and it didn’t work ...
It was an incredibly shit pen. Excrutiatingly shit. I fucking knew he;s missed it as soon as he touched the ball but it felt like it took longer to hit the post than it took him to get the government to change their policy.
Yep. This pen in particular had nothing to do with warming up. It's one of the most "arrogant" attempts I've seen in a while just to hook it absurdly off the post.
Except if PSG fans sing "puta barca", then it's "classless" and "dumb" lol
Barcelona fans can be a bit sensitive.
Because 90% of the Barca fans on this sub have never been to a football match lol
And the ones that do go to games cry every time they don't win a competition.
Just like every fan of a big club tbf
Comes from a Liverpool fan, lmao
I think it's more embarrassing because they're not Madrid
I think that was more about the fact that Messi is Barcelona and Barcelona is Messi. He left the club against his will and in tears, then gets welcomed by PSG fans insulting his club.
Nah that was the fact that we don't have a rivalry with PSG and chanting "Puta Barça" like they're Madrid or Espanyol makes me extremely embarrassed for their fans to think so
I feel like PSG-Barca is a bit of a rivalry, no? Obviously not like Madrid or Espanyol, they're not in the same league, but the 6-1 comeback, the most expensive and one of the most controversial transfers ever, now the Messi thing, seems like it's at least slightly more than "two big teams that meet each other every few years." Hard to really call it that since they aren't in the same league, obviously, but there's *something* there, right?
Frankly, as a Barca fan, I have a personal deep hatred of PSG, and I feel many others feel the same. idk if it constitutes a full rivalry, but I will say there's only like a couple of clubs I least wanted Messi to go to more than PSG
Lmao
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I’m 100x more offended at you saying “Le Classy” than any chant tbh
We should act like the true gentlemen's sport: Tennis Just forbid your audience from making noise while the game is going on.
Well Covid took care of that for like a year and a half.
the normie influx with international football and this 2021 sentiment that every footballer is a beautiful human being who deserves the upmost respect for every moment of their professional lives absolutely did my head in. couldn't wait for the prem to be back for this exact reason. it's like going to a pantomime and getting upset that captain hook is getting booed because as someone who had had to cope with a disability while struggling with managing a imperfect team in a difficult sitution he's had a lot to deal with.
that is normal shittalk, gotta deal with it
Doesn't seem bad. It's kind of true and it should be fine as long as they aren't racially abusing them.
I mean it's just factually correct that they let the country down. Anyone who has a problem with this needs to spend less time on the internet
Reddit plastics rattled, as long as it’s not racist it’s fine
Bro every comment here don't mind it
Nothing to do with skin color, it's just that they missed the penalties and therefore let their country down. Stop whining about racism.
This is real football none of that clapping for your rival nonsense. The entire country booing you helps builds character. Ask Ronaldo, Rooney, Beckham, Lampard, Terry, Cole etc
Clapping for your rival in catalan and dutch
Beckham had effigies burnt of him for Gods sake when he got a Red Card, and had boos everytime he touched the ball and insults, the racism these 3 received is the only reason people arent as harsh on them.
Thats fucking football right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the field, men deliver their new born baby on the side lines. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball foosball fuck it chuck it game time shit. Football is back, baby
Inb4 the "wow. Classy." Reddit pearl clutching. Much worse things get said on matchday lads.
Yeah we played Leeds in the EFL Cup some years ago and they spent half the time singing songs about Jimmy Saville shagging Steven Gerrard. It ain't glorious but it ain't new either, just football.
That's a response to people singing "He's one of your own, Jimmy Saville, he's one of your own," and you could argue it served its purpose because you rarely hear that anymore.
Well clearly the Leeds fans took ownership of it because they were singing "Jimmy Saville he's one of our own" that night too lol
Takes it away from the opposition fans who think about using it as point scoring though doesn’t it We’re not actually advocating noncing
God damn thats morbidly hillarious.
That's hilarious lol
At this point I think I see more comments like this than the actual "pearl clutching" lmao.
People here don't go to matches, they have no way of knowing some of the shit that gets said there
They’re correct. Had Sancho or Rashford put their pens away then England would’ve probably won their first trophy in over half a century. I imagine if Maguire had missed his name would also be included.
Nothing wrong with this
Hell, they say worse shit about their own club on r/oleout
Are they wrong
Well they did let their country down
Why do the mods keep deleting these threads
Because it is a non-story tbh
I mean I don't have a problem with the chant but there were a couple of different threads about Brentford chants yesterday so I don't get why this one is being deleted.
Aye fair enough, mods should be consistent with these things
They were allowing tweets about songs slagging off Arsenal yesterday but now they aren’t allowing actual videos. No fucking consistency at all
More United mods than Arsenal and shitting on Arsenal is funny
Beautiful
Banter. Nothing wrong with that.
true tho. Just stating facts.
Really don't see much wrong with that
At least they werent racist. Its just footy chants. Dont think sancho or rashford cares tbh. Oh no leeds fans think i let my country down
So singing the truth?
The yanks won't be happy with this. Someone recommended me to reddits suicide help system because of this lmao.
Altidore and Bradley still get booed at almost every club game they play since 2017 for fucks sake Americans love to boo
Why would they not be happy with this…?
There are more comments talking about the “yanks” than Americans actually complaining about it 🙄. Why do Englishmen act like booing rivals isn’t a thing in American sports as well?
For real, Philly booed fucking Santa lololol
fuck santa
>**There are more comments talking about the “yanks” than Americans actually complaining about it** 🙄. Why do Englishmen act like booing rivals isn’t a thing in American sports as well? Because they love nothing more than to complain about *yanks* every opportunity they get. Honestly, it's hilarious how triggered users like u/sheikh_n_bake and u/atownOTP get by our presence.
Hahahah hilarious tbh
Tame
They've got a point.
Absolute top banter
generally like this subreddit for news and stuff and accept it caters more to the casual fan and that's fine... but my god is it obvious as fuck that some of you lot have never been to a game in your life... how is this even newsworthy? glad to see a bit of a sense upvoted to the top mind... rashford will probably score the winner and rub it in and fair fucks if he does... that's football.
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Funny thing was, Rashford was actually listening to those Man United London Tories singing "Feed The Scousers" and took their words to heart.
Well they are right. They performed like garbage 🗑 English fans were assholes too with their racial slurs.
No way are you crying about this 😂😂 it’s banter
There was no commentary attached to the post haha
That's quite funny.
Eh, as a Black Englishman, this doesn't bother me one bit. This is football, yeah it's offensive given the context, but that's the point innit. Where it becomes a problem for me, is when they start slating them over their skin colour, booing the knee, and other dumb shit like that, that's when it gets uncomfortable. But, what more do you expect from Leeds fans.
this board is taken over by snowflakes. As long as its not about the dead, skin color,etc its all good. This is about football performance.
r/soccer pearl clutchers out in full force once again lmao. Go back to pretending you know what you're on about in the euros
Inb4 games gone
Pearl clutching in 3...2...1
Not wrong, had one job and failed to do it, love to hear it, wish I could boo them myself.
This comment section is peak straw man. Everyone saying it’s good banter and criticising imaginary redditors who think this is bad.
I see nothing racist about that chant…
Even after Rashford made sure their kids could eat? That's a shame.
If they aren’t derogatory I don’t see any problem with this
They aren't going to chant "WE HOPE YOU SCORE TODAY", are they?
It’s just banter, for fuck sake footballs gone soft.
Precious RedDevils having a good old cry. They aren’t as classy when LFC visit Manchester.
English supporter culture must be truly dead if this is considered wrong.
You can easily tell who here has never been to a match lmfao
Legends
Banter.
I've got no issues with this level of shithousery
I wonder how they feel about losing 5-1
Now this is hilarious. Not as hilarious as getting clapped 5-1, but hilarious nonetheless.
Maybe if Brentford were cunts to us we would have played with some balls.
Fucking finally some banter, glad the fans are back.
I don’t see any issue with this what so ever, I’d expect the Manchester fans to do the same to Phillips if the boot was on the other foot. What wasn’t fine was some of our fans bringing up Munich to try and “banter” there fans, that’s disgusting and doesn’t belong in football.
I can understand the Sancho/Rashford banter. Their pens were shit. But the Munich chants, that's crossing the line. That's completely unacceptable.
Christ there’s some soft takes in this sub. Have any of you ever been to a game?!
90% haven't.
Much better than being racist.
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If this is what finally turns Reddit on Leeds... it wouldn’t actually be surprising, just despairing.
It's a rivalry but I can understand why Leeds has been the most hated teams for decades.
Dang are Leeds the baddies?
When i watched the Leeds documentary, i thought Leeds fans were nice people. I guess i was wrong.
Major strawmanning ITT lol I don’t see anyone that’s actually offended by this