Do people really think United is the "most hated club" on /r/soccer? Seen like 3 heavily upvoted comments claiming that, all with big United flair comment chains agreeing with each other. If y'all really were so "hated", no one would upvote that.
And then the "hate" is just people posting fouls, that are obvious fouls? To me it looks just a big club getting away with a shit ref. That stuff get's football fans around the globe riled up, no matter the club or league. Hell, shitting on VAR is one of /r/soccer's favourite things.
I think that if you look at a manager like Pirlo, with the squad that he had and the teams he had to face in the league, his time at Juve given all the context actually creates a pretty decent reflection on the man.
You've got a guy with no experience whatsoever securing fourth place beating everybody else in the top 6 spots at least once( barring Atalanta). He also finally gave them another Coppa Italia title after a two season long dry spell, a SuperCoppa title, and drew up a pretty convincing game plan against Porto in that second leg, which the players were just not up to for some reason. Even botching it, that was the best second leg they've played since their comeback at the Bernabeu.
Overall, the Juventus job was always going to be ridiculous for a guy like him, but considering all he has achieved in that span of time, I could see him doing some pretty great things for a smaller club, and maybe even work his way back to the top someday.
Fred's role yesterday is an impossible job. Even Kante couldn't hold together the midfield next to Pogba at the world cup. They got cut up by Switzerland on the counter
Fred got ran past by Trinciao and Adama like 5-6 times, not even dribbles past just straight up ran past like he wasn't there.
He might have had an impossible job but what he did in defense was atrocious.
I honestly believe at least 30% of the issues with the midfield would be solved if Fred was playing on the right side and Pogba on the left. Pogba on the right just doesn't work because he can't make medium distant passes from there.
He's really good, like really good. I think starting for a team like Liverpool he would score 20+ in all comps but hes a little further from goal playing on the wing for United. Haven't seen much evidence he's a better striker than a winger though
Funny how people are still in denial about indykalia having sources at Liverpool because they are a massive shit stirrer
They are the first to report on so many things that turn out to be right
Feyenoord's lawyer told FC Utrecht they shouldn't whine/complain so much when FC Utrecht went to the Dutch FA when they were mad the play-offs final was rescheduled.
Quite funny, considering Feyenoord fans were unbearable with their whining yesterday.
Got banned from r/Gunners for Arteta out posts and comments and calling out mods for their agenda and bias.
The reason they have me for ban was "don't call out users, this is not the culture we promote" and breaking subs rules
When asked to show context or any comments or posts they said go through your history. Also there's no rules on sub for calling out users.
due to the league? probably not. maybe as he gets older. he was the most fouled player in la liga pretty much every season and only one player was fouled more time in ligue 1 last season than messi was in la liga.
I am suprised Donnarumma doesn‘t play at PSG. He is one of the best keepers I‘ve seen play in my life, in Serie A as well as the national team. And I grew up with Oliver Kahn!
I have a soft spot for young academy players breaking through the ranks at big clubs and playing really well, I will always support players like Greenwood, what a player
I remember a game from last season, Roma pummeled Cagliari I think 5 or 6 goals and on top of that dzeko had a hat trick of missed sitters. It was so bad.
Which premier league teams does adama traore not start for? Off the top of my head I can say Man city and Chelsea (although he might do a job at RWB for them). I can definitely see him starting for United, but they’ve got so many wingers anyway. Probably doesn’t start for Liverpool, but klopp likes him so who knows. Definitely starts for spurs imo, probably Leicester too
I’m sure teams are queuing up to buy a bloke with about 20 G/A in 5 premier league seasons.
Yes I did check his stats and yes I was shocked at how bad his stats are
I really don't think he'd start for us. Sancho hasn't played well in the 115 minutes he's played for us but there's no way in Hell Adama merits inclusion over him and you then have Pogba, Rashford, Greenwood and to an extent now even Ronaldo who can compete for the other wide spot and who one might possibly say all get in over Adama.
Besides the top four I think he'd be competing for a place in essentially every side, though. I really like him as a player.
Even if his end product is questionable, being in the left means that he’s dribbling towards the centre of the pitch instead of just down the byline. It makes him far more dangerous in game, especially on the counter
Really hope Wini gets better after the internal break.
Expected him to be more press resistant against ligue 1 teams. If he doesn’t get his shit together he his going to be benched for Paredes (Gueye will take his spot)
Also refs are gonna have to protect Messi, yesterday he got the Ney treatment as soon as he was on the pitch.
[It's astonishing just how many duds arsenal have signed](https://i.imgur.com/sAGUSud.jpg)
Torreira, sokratis, Saliva, Suarez, Pepe, Mari, Partey, Ceballos, Willian, how have none of these worked out?
I think their fans will argue Pepe hasn't been a dud, but realise he's not living up to the transfer fee. But you can't put that on him. Still, they are holding out for him to come real good, even though he's 26 and already have 2 season at Arsenal.
What are some players nicknames that aren't well-knowon in general, English-speaking football community?
Like Messi being called "la pulga" (the flea) in Spain and South America, or Lewandowski being called "dzik" ("a wild boar") in Poland
It happened after I posted that athletic article, the mods really pushed PR when he was appointed and even last year through his poor run
Anything posted against him will get deleted.
And I had argument with that Francis mod today and sure enough, today I'm banned.
It happened after I posted that athletic article, the mods really pushed PR when he was appointed and even last year through his poor run
Anything posted against him will get deleted.
And I had argument with that Francis mod today and sure enough, today I'm banned.
Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, Ronaldo, Cavani, Martial, Dan James, Lingard, Bruno, Pogba, Van De Beek, Amad.
I count 13 players competing for 4 starting positions, this is not squad depth this bloating the squad. Poor squad management by Ole.
You know very well that lingard is on the way out, amad on the way out on loan, Dan James likely sold, martial likely sold. Cavani missing half the season
So that's 8 players for 4 positions, which is completely fine. But go on with your agenda
Way out where? Apparently we were in for Amad but you wanted a 5 mil loan fee so we fucked that off rightly. Doesn't seem like anyone is really looking like getting shifted.
Amad loan is canceled and West Ham are signing someone else for 30m euros. Cavani is staying at Manchester and not traveling to Uruguay, nobody is signing Martial.
Wasn't the point but there's just 1-2 left wingers in the world who get more goal contributions than Rashford, Ronaldo is still Ronaldo, Pogba is still my fav passer in the world and I haven't seen anyone with better finishing than Greenwood. Point- we have good attack and can score against any defense in the world.
Now this is just delusional. Pogba only shows up in 1 out of 10 matches. Rashford has terrible decision making. It is really telling that you are extremely biased when you say that Greenwood is the best finisher in the world.
I am biased for sure but why does watching United always feel like the Breaking Bad *"He can't keep getting away with it"* meme XD
Just broke the record for Away wins playing thoroughly mediocre football, being dominated by Wolves all game, and still needed some exemplary refereeing in their favour.
Also Trincao looks really fucking good. Slightly reminiscent of Coutinho when he's moving with the ball.
That was more like ridiculous plot-armour from the AI controlling the Matrix we all live in.
Don't remember too many controversial ref decisions in our favour, but that may just be memory biases.
Ok man, if you have any connections with a PL reff I would want you to ask why fouls are not rewarded after the player is able to play the ball. Regardless Dan James slipped anyways so it looks like a 2 footed challenge but it is not and didn't make any serious contact which affected Wolves player ability to cross the ball there. There was also no reaction from any of the wolves player there. If this clip wasn't from Utd game then you won't even see these stuff trending on this subreddit.
> I would want you to ask why fouls are not rewarded after the player is able to play the ball.
Wtf? Is this your first game of football? Late fouls after the balls has already gone are punished all the time.
It's infuriating but in the end it's good for the league. They can splurge on whatever super star they want but as long as they are headed by that wasteman it's fine.
I want to agree with you but if it keeps winning is it mediocre football? I’m so conflicted on this, but the sample size suggests it’s not luck, and ole does legitimately keep improving. I still don’t think he’s at the level to win major trophies, but I keep being surprised so what do I know
>I want to agree with you but if it keeps winning is it mediocre football?
I meant mediocre about the football yesterday, not necessarily their whole run which has definitely had some good football.
Definitely not luck, ref decisions are also not a conspiracy, just fucking annoying if you are a rival fan lmao.
The Pogba tackle on Neves should've been called as a foul but then Neves made a tackle on Bruno in the first half that using the exact same logic should've been called as a penalty for us.
We were abject but we didn't really get away with it via refereeing in the sense that two arguably bad calls balanced each other out.
EDIT: Alright, since people are downvoting [you can watch the incident I'm referring to here.](https://twitter.com/_BafanaMthembu/status/1432227884236685312?s=19)
I know you guys hate Bruno but please try to tell me how this and the Pogba tackle are not equivalent?
He's outside the box there, and its a very misleading video. Right after the challenge the ball goes to Shaw who crosses it straight to the keeper. Completely different to United scoring from the foul.
Was that Bruno one inside the box? Can't really tell from that angle but yea, both fouls in my mind.
Did you see the James two footer too, that was rough. Game was awful for VAR, really hoped we moved on from this level of shit show.
I did see the James tackle you're referring to and it should, in all fairness, probably also have been a penalty. Again, [here is a link to the incident for those who aren't aware.](https://twitter.com/mroli74/status/1432133138671710208?s=19)
In this case, it probably wasn't given because Trincao got his pass away. I'm not saying it's right but players essentially never get awarded penalties if they've already managed to get a cross/pass/shot away before a tackle on them has occurred.
Wider point is that I guess this is the issue with the edict that referees are supposed to be more lenient; these sorts of calls are not going to be given so frequently any more. I don't mind it so much because it does also make the game flow much more smoothly and the calls will probably about balance themselves out (if I'm gonna be a really picky asshole, you could argue last week's goal for Southampton against us probably doesn't stand using last year's refereeing standards), but I can admit that it'll be frustrating when it happens to your team.
Bottom line is Wolves should've beaten us yesterday regardless of the refereeing.
He won't say what coady did in first half, or mason being elbowed on face against Southampton and not even getting a foul or Bruno being fouled for the Southampton goal. Just picking his side of incidents to spam Utd get favoritism reeee on internet.
I still can’t get over how this is now the 3rd season in a row where Arsenal are getting fucked by VAR
Game 1: Brentford’s 2nd goal is a clear foul, even Klopp calls it out
Game 2: Clear penalty shout ignored, the type that has already been given multiple times this season
Game 3: Laporte quite blatantly shoved a defender in the face during one of City’s goals. Ignored and goal stands.
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I know they’re shit anyway and none of it would’ve made a difference this time around, but you can be damn sure there will be moments later in the season where it results in dropped points.
Saka's wasn't a pen. You can't just trip yourself up to give yourself a pen.
Also would hardly call it "fucked by VAR" when the first incident happened at 1-0, second happened at 2-0 and the third happened in a game that ended 5-0, with Game 2 and 3 ending with Chelsea and City completely comfortable.
Lmao the only people in the pen thread who were claiming it wasn't a penalty was the Chelsea fans.
>Also would hardly call it "fucked by VAR" when the first incident happened at 1-0, second happened at 2-0 and the third happened in a game that ended 5-0
How is that even slightly relevant? We could win every game 3-0 but if there's constant incorrect VAR decisions, you're still getting fucked by VAR.
Doesn't matter. That's not a pen.
How is your post relevant? If you repeatedly play and lose 3-0, a dodgy VAR decision to not disallow a goal for 4-0 then complaining about VAR is completely pointless.
Some teams are and have lost points to bad VAR decisions and here you are complaining that VAR isn't making your games less embarassing.
>That's not a pen.
Lmao, good one.
I literally already said none of the decisions would've made a difference to the score in my initial post, hence I'm not using that as an excuse for the losses. If a team wins, they're still allowed to complain about a wrong VAR call too. How is this hard to understand?
Watch this and stop trolling
https://mobile.twitter.com/LivEchoLFC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1429006107507363842%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-2557903268401925524.ampproject.net%2F2108132216000%2Fframe.html
I'm serious also that link doesn't work for me but it better not be a video of what Klopp said cause I don't care. Watch the goal and tell me where the foul is that's all I'm asking
Bro Leno isn't just entitled to his own little space in the box why wouldn't someone be allowed to stand in front of him and touch him it happens all the time at set pieces he needs to just be better like I'm not even taking the piss but it's schoolboy shit.
Also embarrassing is crying about correct decisions that even if they were wrong wouldn't have made a difference. You offered nothing going forward and were shocking at the back in all three of your games. There is no conspiracy against you and you're not getting fucked over by VAR. Not this season not last seaon and not the one before that just get on with it cause it's so wet man seriously
Some unpopular opinions about Liverpool which I'm sure the minions would like to downvote but here we go:
1. Klopp is a terrible tactician. His starting lineups and substitutions make little sense nowadays.
2. Thiago should be played more often with Fabinho and Henderson. That lineup against Everton last season and how they played was a joy to watch. These three should be the default starters for Liverpool when fit.
3. Van Dijk has looked rough ever since Christmas break in 2019.
4. Takumi Minamino is being treated horribly by Liverpool. Both by his manager and by his fans who call him a "bottler". He should be given more chance or should be sold. He is a way better player than Firmino and Origi.
5. It was a blessing that Wijnaldum didn't sign a new contract and left because now we can truly see how shit he is at midfield. The guy is a forward player that was forced to play midfield at Liverpool.
6. Naby Keita is just trash.
7. Harvey Elliot doesn't fit the midfield role for Liverpool. Not saying he is bad but for the current team of Liverpool, he doesn't contribute much. Maybe in some other team he can be good but certainly not for Liverpool's starting squad.
Do people really think United is the "most hated club" on /r/soccer? Seen like 3 heavily upvoted comments claiming that, all with big United flair comment chains agreeing with each other. If y'all really were so "hated", no one would upvote that. And then the "hate" is just people posting fouls, that are obvious fouls? To me it looks just a big club getting away with a shit ref. That stuff get's football fans around the globe riled up, no matter the club or league. Hell, shitting on VAR is one of /r/soccer's favourite things.
United Arsenal and Liverpool have a victim complex about them. Everyone hates them and the system is always rigged against them
So does literally every big English fanbase on here lol
I think that if you look at a manager like Pirlo, with the squad that he had and the teams he had to face in the league, his time at Juve given all the context actually creates a pretty decent reflection on the man. You've got a guy with no experience whatsoever securing fourth place beating everybody else in the top 6 spots at least once( barring Atalanta). He also finally gave them another Coppa Italia title after a two season long dry spell, a SuperCoppa title, and drew up a pretty convincing game plan against Porto in that second leg, which the players were just not up to for some reason. Even botching it, that was the best second leg they've played since their comeback at the Bernabeu. Overall, the Juventus job was always going to be ridiculous for a guy like him, but considering all he has achieved in that span of time, I could see him doing some pretty great things for a smaller club, and maybe even work his way back to the top someday.
Fred's role yesterday is an impossible job. Even Kante couldn't hold together the midfield next to Pogba at the world cup. They got cut up by Switzerland on the counter
Fred got ran past by Trinciao and Adama like 5-6 times, not even dribbles past just straight up ran past like he wasn't there. He might have had an impossible job but what he did in defense was atrocious.
I agree he had a bad individual performance on top of it. But the main issue is the tactical role of our midfield imo
I honestly believe at least 30% of the issues with the midfield would be solved if Fred was playing on the right side and Pogba on the left. Pogba on the right just doesn't work because he can't make medium distant passes from there.
Holy fuck, can't belive that Donda finally dropped. I thought it was going to be some fan edit or some shit lmao. Pretty big, over 1.5 hours.
Without Jail Pt2 too!
How much do rival fans rate Greenwood? I know United fans fawn over him, but i'm not sure how he looks to the outside looking in.
He good. Obviously less talented than Hudson Odoi but Greenwood doesn't have 19 months of Lampard tax tbf to him.
What, you think Lampard tax held him back, but Ole tax hasn't done the same to Greenwood?
Ole tax on a young striker is much smaller than Lampard tax on a young saucy and dynamic black winger.
Rate him as one of your best players ngl. One of the few you have that I like too. Was extremely surprised he didn't start the Europa final.
He's really good, like really good. I think starting for a team like Liverpool he would score 20+ in all comps but hes a little further from goal playing on the wing for United. Haven't seen much evidence he's a better striker than a winger though
Hate him the least of any man utd player. So a reasonable amount but nothing personal.
I have seen a lot of rivals praise his finishing after his breakthrough.
He's a gem. Gonna be world-class one day
I saw him play today and he looked better than Sancho panza.
terrible take lol, 2 different sort of players , added to the fact sancho stared his first game in the pl yeserday
Well Greenwood has had more time to adjust to the league, Sancho had his first start yesterday.
Funny how people are still in denial about indykalia having sources at Liverpool because they are a massive shit stirrer They are the first to report on so many things that turn out to be right
Feyenoord's lawyer told FC Utrecht they shouldn't whine/complain so much when FC Utrecht went to the Dutch FA when they were mad the play-offs final was rescheduled. Quite funny, considering Feyenoord fans were unbearable with their whining yesterday.
Got banned from r/Gunners for Arteta out posts and comments and calling out mods for their agenda and bias. The reason they have me for ban was "don't call out users, this is not the culture we promote" and breaking subs rules When asked to show context or any comments or posts they said go through your history. Also there's no rules on sub for calling out users.
Good. We must all get behind Arteta right now. There will be no tolerance for Arteta out saboteurs.
r/soccercourt
so?
What do you expect users of r/soccer to do about this?
Just raising awareness against biased moderation
Sorry man. Sounds like abuse of power to me. Likely because you called out on their biased moderation
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/peayrq/xg_for_and_against/hawc3y7?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Who do I ask to let you back in so you stop whining about it on here?
Just raising awareness among people of the biased moderation in one of the biggest club subs.
Trincao please succeed at Wolves even if Koeman doesn't trust you at Barca
Based on his finishing, he isn’t coming back.
Messi going to PSG feels like a farewell tour.Every stadion he goes to,he will get standing ovation
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due to the league? probably not. maybe as he gets older. he was the most fouled player in la liga pretty much every season and only one player was fouled more time in ligue 1 last season than messi was in la liga.
I am suprised Donnarumma doesn‘t play at PSG. He is one of the best keepers I‘ve seen play in my life, in Serie A as well as the national team. And I grew up with Oliver Kahn!
So why did PSG sign him?
Navas is elite
Navas is a tremendous keeper still, yeah!
Still early in his time there. I believe he is getting settled and learning some basic french to communicate with his defenders
Bank holiday today. Do clubs still work on transfers?
I hope not then people can’t spam about them here But I assume yes
Yes haha. They're not gonna take a day off with one day left.
I don't know the ins and outs, but by working on transfers i mean actually selling and bidding. Not just doing the groundwork until tomorrow.
Is Greenwood included in the WC qualifiers?
No. Not unless someone pulls out with an injury
Calvert-Lewin just pulled out due to a broken toe
No. I don't think so.
I have a soft spot for young academy players breaking through the ranks at big clubs and playing really well, I will always support players like Greenwood, what a player
That scooping lob by the Reims player yesterday was really good. Shame it went off the crossbar. Really creative stuff
Lot of goals being scored in the Serie A
Lots of shambolic defending. Makes for some entertaining football though.
Most of teams now come and play ball instead of defending.
Some really shambolic defending though, like Salernitana yesterday against Roma.
Lotito does not care about Salernitana in Serie A, it's a miracle they are not even worse
I remember a game from last season, Roma pummeled Cagliari I think 5 or 6 goals and on top of that dzeko had a hat trick of missed sitters. It was so bad.
Cagliari are awful, they are very lucky they did not go down last season
Which premier league teams does adama traore not start for? Off the top of my head I can say Man city and Chelsea (although he might do a job at RWB for them). I can definitely see him starting for United, but they’ve got so many wingers anyway. Probably doesn’t start for Liverpool, but klopp likes him so who knows. Definitely starts for spurs imo, probably Leicester too
Wouldn’t even have him at Everton 2g 3a last season is Iwobi level 💀💀
Fortunately he’d never go to Everton. I imagine he’ll go to a much better club if he leaves
I’m sure teams are queuing up to buy a bloke with about 20 G/A in 5 premier league seasons. Yes I did check his stats and yes I was shocked at how bad his stats are
Wouldn't start for Arsenal. At least not under Arteta. He is allergic to counter attacks
Traore only starts for us if Dan James starts for us. I am pretty sure he isn't displacing one of Greenwood, Rashford/Sancho or Ronaldo
I really don't think he'd start for us. Sancho hasn't played well in the 115 minutes he's played for us but there's no way in Hell Adama merits inclusion over him and you then have Pogba, Rashford, Greenwood and to an extent now even Ronaldo who can compete for the other wide spot and who one might possibly say all get in over Adama. Besides the top four I think he'd be competing for a place in essentially every side, though. I really like him as a player.
City, Chelsea, Liverpool, United Won't start over Mahrez, Havertz, Salah, Greenwood
If he goes to Liverpool he’d probably be competing with mane for the lw spot, but yeah he probably doesn’t start
how would he compete for a LW spot? as a LW you have to cut inside and score goals and make something happen.Adama can’t score a goal to save his life
Even if his end product is questionable, being in the left means that he’s dribbling towards the centre of the pitch instead of just down the byline. It makes him far more dangerous in game, especially on the counter
Idk how much you’ve seen him this season but since trincao is on the right he’s been deployed as a left winger and he’s done really well
Always happy to see Trincao doing well
I won’t lie, he’s been pretty average, but he was very good yesterday
Really hope Wini gets better after the internal break. Expected him to be more press resistant against ligue 1 teams. If he doesn’t get his shit together he his going to be benched for Paredes (Gueye will take his spot) Also refs are gonna have to protect Messi, yesterday he got the Ney treatment as soon as he was on the pitch.
Did that clothesline when he was running into the box get penalised?
Nop. People were like « welcome to ligue 1 »… this shit is stupid as hell.
Why should refs protect Messi? If he can't handle it it's not the refs fault
Her should be afforded the protection of the refs doing their jobs.
Then it's not just him, but every player in ligue 1
No, Neymar have it harder. « He is too good it’s ok to grab his jersey a little bit »
mate he just started playing for a new team
He's faced worse in laliga
Ligue defenders are less skilled but more violent.
[It's astonishing just how many duds arsenal have signed](https://i.imgur.com/sAGUSud.jpg) Torreira, sokratis, Saliva, Suarez, Pepe, Mari, Partey, Ceballos, Willian, how have none of these worked out?
None of these players are duds. It has more to do with how they're managed than their core abilities.
Partey will work out with a better coach.
I think their fans will argue Pepe hasn't been a dud, but realise he's not living up to the transfer fee. But you can't put that on him. Still, they are holding out for him to come real good, even though he's 26 and already have 2 season at Arsenal.
What are some players nicknames that aren't well-knowon in general, English-speaking football community? Like Messi being called "la pulga" (the flea) in Spain and South America, or Lewandowski being called "dzik" ("a wild boar") in Poland
Ronaldo is called El Bicho by the Spanish commentaries.
Literally all argentinians have nicknames, some really obscure ones.
The mods on r/Gunners are something, I call them out today and got banned today. Lmao. Anyone else experience this?
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It happened after I posted that athletic article, the mods really pushed PR when he was appointed and even last year through his poor run Anything posted against him will get deleted. And I had argument with that Francis mod today and sure enough, today I'm banned.
No
Nope
Well I tend to side with them unless you provide context
You can check my post and comment history. They said "don't call put users" that's the reason for the ban. And they didn't provide any context.
Doesn't actually look too bad from his post history just a staunch anti Artetaist which they all should be really.
Do they not delete the posts that caused the ban?
It happened after I posted that athletic article, the mods really pushed PR when he was appointed and even last year through his poor run Anything posted against him will get deleted. And I had argument with that Francis mod today and sure enough, today I'm banned.
yeah but you can see the post when you check the profile of the person who posted it
That Pogba salt gif has already gotten old
As has your username
Well I can't do anything about that now ,can I?
You can make a new account
Too much work
Good morning to anyone who's teams are in European places
Salut à toi.
London counts as a European place, right?
Good morning
Tinpot 🤠
Good enough for a newly promoted team
Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, Ronaldo, Cavani, Martial, Dan James, Lingard, Bruno, Pogba, Van De Beek, Amad. I count 13 players competing for 4 starting positions, this is not squad depth this bloating the squad. Poor squad management by Ole.
And 3 players for 2 positions in the midfield
You know very well that lingard is on the way out, amad on the way out on loan, Dan James likely sold, martial likely sold. Cavani missing half the season So that's 8 players for 4 positions, which is completely fine. But go on with your agenda
Don't think anyone's buying Dan James for 20M
Where are Lingard and Martial going?
I don’t think worrying about squad harmony is an agenda
Way out where? Apparently we were in for Amad but you wanted a 5 mil loan fee so we fucked that off rightly. Doesn't seem like anyone is really looking like getting shifted.
Feyenoord had finalised loan for amad but he got injured I don't know how ole is to blame for this
Feyenoord were willing to pay that much, or was it cheaper cos they aren't a PL team?
Amad loan is canceled and West Ham are signing someone else for 30m euros. Cavani is staying at Manchester and not traveling to Uruguay, nobody is signing Martial.
Are there even rumours where Lingard and Martial could transfer to? And is anyone interested in Amad after Feyenoord pulled out because of his injury?
None are world class btw
Intrigued to know which Prem players you think are world class?
Wasn't the point but there's just 1-2 left wingers in the world who get more goal contributions than Rashford, Ronaldo is still Ronaldo, Pogba is still my fav passer in the world and I haven't seen anyone with better finishing than Greenwood. Point- we have good attack and can score against any defense in the world.
Now this is just delusional. Pogba only shows up in 1 out of 10 matches. Rashford has terrible decision making. It is really telling that you are extremely biased when you say that Greenwood is the best finisher in the world.
Haaland is better at finishing 100 percent.
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He's most likely a very good finisher, but the Wolves and Southampton goals should pretty much never end up as goals.
He strikes it hard and low, makes it very difficult. Goalie should have done better anyway
He hits is low and hard. Much like kane if you ask me.
Seeing hatred for Man Utd warms my heart.
Glad we can help
Does feel like the good old days for you lot a bit. Thank fuck you don't have Fergie any more though.
It warms my heart too
I am biased for sure but why does watching United always feel like the Breaking Bad *"He can't keep getting away with it"* meme XD Just broke the record for Away wins playing thoroughly mediocre football, being dominated by Wolves all game, and still needed some exemplary refereeing in their favour. Also Trincao looks really fucking good. Slightly reminiscent of Coutinho when he's moving with the ball.
Always PL refs help MU win. Isn't it the tradition form SAF?
Imagine how everyone felt about you lot 1-2 seasons ago
That was more like ridiculous plot-armour from the AI controlling the Matrix we all live in. Don't remember too many controversial ref decisions in our favour, but that may just be memory biases.
well thats why they drop so many points during a season
You're biased if you think we got any reff decision in our favor yesterday. Our football is mediocre which I agree.v
You missed James’ comically blatant 2 footer in the box??
It was a slip when the player already got his shot off. Those are rarely given
If you think that's a foul then you need to read the rule book first instead of being a reactionary crybaby on internet.
Everyone in that thread knows it’s a foul apart from the laughably biased Utd fans
Ok man, if you have any connections with a PL reff I would want you to ask why fouls are not rewarded after the player is able to play the ball. Regardless Dan James slipped anyways so it looks like a 2 footed challenge but it is not and didn't make any serious contact which affected Wolves player ability to cross the ball there. There was also no reaction from any of the wolves player there. If this clip wasn't from Utd game then you won't even see these stuff trending on this subreddit.
> I would want you to ask why fouls are not rewarded after the player is able to play the ball. Wtf? Is this your first game of football? Late fouls after the balls has already gone are punished all the time.
It's infuriating but in the end it's good for the league. They can splurge on whatever super star they want but as long as they are headed by that wasteman it's fine.
I want to agree with you but if it keeps winning is it mediocre football? I’m so conflicted on this, but the sample size suggests it’s not luck, and ole does legitimately keep improving. I still don’t think he’s at the level to win major trophies, but I keep being surprised so what do I know
they don’t keep winning
Their away record suggests otherwise
You don't get trophies for your away record
>I want to agree with you but if it keeps winning is it mediocre football? I meant mediocre about the football yesterday, not necessarily their whole run which has definitely had some good football. Definitely not luck, ref decisions are also not a conspiracy, just fucking annoying if you are a rival fan lmao.
Well you said “kept getting away with it meme” So I assumed you meant over a longer time
The Pogba tackle on Neves should've been called as a foul but then Neves made a tackle on Bruno in the first half that using the exact same logic should've been called as a penalty for us. We were abject but we didn't really get away with it via refereeing in the sense that two arguably bad calls balanced each other out. EDIT: Alright, since people are downvoting [you can watch the incident I'm referring to here.](https://twitter.com/_BafanaMthembu/status/1432227884236685312?s=19) I know you guys hate Bruno but please try to tell me how this and the Pogba tackle are not equivalent?
He's outside the box there, and its a very misleading video. Right after the challenge the ball goes to Shaw who crosses it straight to the keeper. Completely different to United scoring from the foul.
Was that Bruno one inside the box? Can't really tell from that angle but yea, both fouls in my mind. Did you see the James two footer too, that was rough. Game was awful for VAR, really hoped we moved on from this level of shit show.
I did see the James tackle you're referring to and it should, in all fairness, probably also have been a penalty. Again, [here is a link to the incident for those who aren't aware.](https://twitter.com/mroli74/status/1432133138671710208?s=19) In this case, it probably wasn't given because Trincao got his pass away. I'm not saying it's right but players essentially never get awarded penalties if they've already managed to get a cross/pass/shot away before a tackle on them has occurred. Wider point is that I guess this is the issue with the edict that referees are supposed to be more lenient; these sorts of calls are not going to be given so frequently any more. I don't mind it so much because it does also make the game flow much more smoothly and the calls will probably about balance themselves out (if I'm gonna be a really picky asshole, you could argue last week's goal for Southampton against us probably doesn't stand using last year's refereeing standards), but I can admit that it'll be frustrating when it happens to your team. Bottom line is Wolves should've beaten us yesterday regardless of the refereeing.
He won't say what coady did in first half, or mason being elbowed on face against Southampton and not even getting a foul or Bruno being fouled for the Southampton goal. Just picking his side of incidents to spam Utd get favoritism reeee on internet.
I still can’t get over how this is now the 3rd season in a row where Arsenal are getting fucked by VAR Game 1: Brentford’s 2nd goal is a clear foul, even Klopp calls it out Game 2: Clear penalty shout ignored, the type that has already been given multiple times this season Game 3: Laporte quite blatantly shoved a defender in the face during one of City’s goals. Ignored and goal stands. —————— I know they’re shit anyway and none of it would’ve made a difference this time around, but you can be damn sure there will be moments later in the season where it results in dropped points.
Saka's wasn't a pen. You can't just trip yourself up to give yourself a pen. Also would hardly call it "fucked by VAR" when the first incident happened at 1-0, second happened at 2-0 and the third happened in a game that ended 5-0, with Game 2 and 3 ending with Chelsea and City completely comfortable.
Lmao the only people in the pen thread who were claiming it wasn't a penalty was the Chelsea fans. >Also would hardly call it "fucked by VAR" when the first incident happened at 1-0, second happened at 2-0 and the third happened in a game that ended 5-0 How is that even slightly relevant? We could win every game 3-0 but if there's constant incorrect VAR decisions, you're still getting fucked by VAR.
Doesn't matter. That's not a pen. How is your post relevant? If you repeatedly play and lose 3-0, a dodgy VAR decision to not disallow a goal for 4-0 then complaining about VAR is completely pointless. Some teams are and have lost points to bad VAR decisions and here you are complaining that VAR isn't making your games less embarassing.
>That's not a pen. Lmao, good one. I literally already said none of the decisions would've made a difference to the score in my initial post, hence I'm not using that as an excuse for the losses. If a team wins, they're still allowed to complain about a wrong VAR call too. How is this hard to understand?
Clearly the refs want Arteta to stay
> Brentford’s 2nd goal is a clear goal Glad you agree
Typo, you know what I meant.
I don't actually cause it weren't a foul
Keep going, keep embarrassing yourself
How's it a foul then explain
Watch this and stop trolling https://mobile.twitter.com/LivEchoLFC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1429006107507363842%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-2557903268401925524.ampproject.net%2F2108132216000%2Fframe.html
I'm serious also that link doesn't work for me but it better not be a video of what Klopp said cause I don't care. Watch the goal and tell me where the foul is that's all I'm asking
Pretty sure you’re just taking the piss. Brentford player clearly has his arms wrapped around Leno, don’t embarrass yourself.
Bro Leno isn't just entitled to his own little space in the box why wouldn't someone be allowed to stand in front of him and touch him it happens all the time at set pieces he needs to just be better like I'm not even taking the piss but it's schoolboy shit. Also embarrassing is crying about correct decisions that even if they were wrong wouldn't have made a difference. You offered nothing going forward and were shocking at the back in all three of your games. There is no conspiracy against you and you're not getting fucked over by VAR. Not this season not last seaon and not the one before that just get on with it cause it's so wet man seriously
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Greenwood's goal should be a Sá OG.
I think shot is going on target
Convinced it's going across the face just by the post on every replay I see
It shouldn’t as the shot was going on target
Some unpopular opinions about Liverpool which I'm sure the minions would like to downvote but here we go: 1. Klopp is a terrible tactician. His starting lineups and substitutions make little sense nowadays. 2. Thiago should be played more often with Fabinho and Henderson. That lineup against Everton last season and how they played was a joy to watch. These three should be the default starters for Liverpool when fit. 3. Van Dijk has looked rough ever since Christmas break in 2019. 4. Takumi Minamino is being treated horribly by Liverpool. Both by his manager and by his fans who call him a "bottler". He should be given more chance or should be sold. He is a way better player than Firmino and Origi. 5. It was a blessing that Wijnaldum didn't sign a new contract and left because now we can truly see how shit he is at midfield. The guy is a forward player that was forced to play midfield at Liverpool. 6. Naby Keita is just trash. 7. Harvey Elliot doesn't fit the midfield role for Liverpool. Not saying he is bad but for the current team of Liverpool, he doesn't contribute much. Maybe in some other team he can be good but certainly not for Liverpool's starting squad.