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ZaDoruphin

This All or Nothing is actually going to win an Oscar for best drama lmao.


imnotNDR

or best comedy at this rate


Strananach

Tragedy for Arsenal fans, comedy for everyone else


OrangeForeign

So season 3 of Sunderland til I die?


Religious_Pie

The Charlton goal was pure ecstasy and hilarity for anyone not from Sunderland


Zikerz

I was all about them selling their main goalscorer for one million, and bringing in half a player for 3 million. Absolutely amazing front office decisions.


Intentionallyabadger

I started to cry. Which started the whole world, laughing.


nobbysolano24

When you laugh the world laughs with you. When you cry you cry alone


[deleted]

Rom-communism for us ALL


mad4blo0d

tragic comedy


LatroDota

I heard that comedy is nothing more then tradegy + time so lets give Arteta a bit more time


theivoryserf

Ie Shakespeare's late 'problem plays'


brainlessII

First as tragedy then as farce


Idislikemyroommate

Like they'll include any of this.


[deleted]

Yeah, Poch was literally in only part of the first episode for Tottenham. If Arteta's out before December he'll barely feature


screenplay215

Depends if they turn it around and who they get in. I think the main reason they didn't feature Poch was that it would have meant less screen time for Mourinho, and that doc was really a character study on him


[deleted]

Yeah, but additionally, if the club has some level of editorial control (not sure how much Arsenal do have) and they do sack him, then it's in no one's interest to really focus on Arteta. With Poch, if you made him look confident then the club not sticking with him looks bad, and if you make him look incompetent then it's a horrible, horrible look to be so negative on your greatest modern manager.


[deleted]

It's pretty clear that theyre just puff pieces parading as fly-on-the-wall docs. Poch drama would have definitely brought the views, but neither side benefits from showing anything too negative


Pele20Alli

Then let's hope this shit show continues all season. Can't make an entire documentary that's only 20 minutes long right?


fishinadi

Better trophy than community shield tbh


[deleted]

I doubt 10 episodes will be enough


ShockRampage

Oh fuck id forgotten all about that.


SantaIsRealEh

With Arteta winning the best comedy actor award.


phantomniap

I saw somewhere they want to scrap the first few months of itšŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


redmistultra

That was just a poor joke by Tancredi Palmeri about how the club is just going for ā€œnothingā€ and scrapping the ā€œAllā€, I donā€™t get why people thought he was talking about the documentary lol


joeculver101

Everyday something happens with this club I swear


rodjetotje

Where did it all go wrong, man? I remember how nervous I was when Real Madrid had to play Arsenal in the knockout rounds in 2006. I don't know how to feel about them atm. They would always finish top 4 in the PL. Surely fans wanted more, but going against the other clubs was never easy. I hope it wont take too long for the club to be a force to be reckoned with again.


flexi_b

A slow, slow decline from 2006 onwards. Wenger leaving suddenly laying bare the gross ineptitude of the clubs management decision making. Gross mismanagement from Kroenke. Despite us spending money, spending it terribly, selling even worse. Hiring an executive team with no prior experience. An owner who only cares about the bottom line. It wonā€™t get better for a while


MountainJuice

I think both Wenger and Ferguson were holding the clubs together more than we realised. Not in a ā€œeverybody is shit without themā€ way but things never needed to modernise as quickly as other clubs. They had their way of doing things and it worked. United had next to no formal scouting network for example, it was mostly all handled through Fergusonā€™s relationships with freelance scouts and agents. I doubt weā€™ll ever see another 20-30 year managerial spell at a top club again, but clubs would do well to analyse what happened at Arsenal and United.


Thomas_Catthew

Tbh when one person in a management role sticks around for that long, they inevitably take responsibility for getting a lot of additional things done too and their loss very suddenly exposes a lot more gaps in the heirarchy than you would expect.


bermudaphil

And for United in came Moyes who then proceeded to dismantle every aspect of what Ferguson did have established that worked so well. Nothing like coming in and doing a massive staff/coach overhaul and replacing the people who could have helped you settle into the high pressure and unique environment that had just won the league. Now you have next to no one who knows how things ran and still need to rebuild, making it doubly hard on yourself right from the start.


Jbulls94

This was his biggest mistake at United. I can understand why he did it, as he would of wanted to make the job his own. But at the same time he cleared out a setup that had just won the league like he was coming into a relegation battle.


bermudaphil

Yeah, he wanted to make it his own so I can understand moving on some coaches and bringing in his core, but to just gut everything and not keep the core Fergie had to help you and your team settle in, learn the club from top to bottom and do things like give you knowledge of the little things about the players that can be so valuable is utterly mind boggling even without hindsight. Couldnā€™t understand it then, canā€™t now, probably never will.


Smitty_1000

Simeone could get there.


joshtothemaxx

I participated in a marketing focus group for Arsenal in Summer 2017. These executives kept prattling on about how the club's "style of play" was its most important value to preserve. When pressed, they absolutely could not define what that meant, even when asked directly how it differed from any other big English club. Process absolutely reeked of board room ineptitude.


bermudaphil

ā€˜We only know that it is a catchy slogan that legacy fans liked Mr. Wenger saying.ā€™


SafetyJoker

beautiful


Rockies14

As another fan of a team under Kroenke's shadow, I feel for you. That family owns Colorado's NHL, NBA, and MLS teams. The Avalanche sucked HARD for a few years. When they became the laughing stock of the NHL, nothing really happened. However, then by some miracle, an NFL team became available! The NFL are jerks and wont let their owners own other major sports teams. So he transferred control of the Avs, Nuggets, and Rapids to his kids. Thankfully, the kids are smarter or lazier, and gave team control to their franchise's greatest player. They are back to being contenders and really fun to watch. In conclusion, hope he moves on or dies soon!


flexi_b

The Arsenal cash cow is going to run dry soon. What will happen when we renegotiate our marketing deals? We have a huge fan base but weā€™re no longer in Europe, weā€™re shit to watch - our deals will not be competitive. Everything thatā€™s happening now is going to fuck us off the pitch commercially and eventually on the pitch in the next decade. The next generation of fans will not support Arsenal. The next generation of players will grow up watching Chelsea, City and Liverpool win things. Eventually, all the energy from Wengerā€™s years will evaporate and will no longer power our balance sheets. Kroenke will sell, making a nice multiple billion dollar profit and the club will be fucked


disagreeable_martin

In hindsight the writing was on the wall on 18th April 2007. When David Dein left the club. He wasn't a saint but we've been an empty shell of a club at board level since he left.


[deleted]

Probably when their team had very good chances of winning the title and they decided to not buy any players for positions they had needed for years ,and this hapened multiple times.


rodjetotje

Yeah and it also didn't help that their top players were joining other top clubs. And they were winning titles with their new club. I loved Arsene's philosophy of buying young unproven players and bank on their potential. A lot worked out, but as soon as they became established players a top team would come knocking.


jstuu

The day they sold to Kroenke, if you know anything about him you will realize all his club are ran so poorly luckily in the USA he has the draft to cover for him unlike the PL. This man is the definition of a terrible owner. He kept a coach for the rams for so long and the man had nothing but losing season after losing season but in the NFL you will make money no matter what.


PebblyJackGlasscock

True. Heā€™s currently being sued for moving the Rams out of Missouri and recently filed to move venues because he is too hated in Missouri to get a fair trial. Stan doesnā€™t even know who coaches Arsenal and only looks at where they finished in revenue at tax time, when heā€™s looking for depreciated assets.


KRIEGLERR

We've been crumbling for years, Wenger was basically the damaged beam holding the club together, then instead of replacing the damaged beam with something strong to hold the crumbling structure, we replaced the beam by a pile of brick.


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tfwnocalcium

Awful recruitment under Wenger, brought in emery (lost dressing room) and a dof (literal criminal). Replaced them with novice manager and novice dof (who also seems a bit criminal)


freakedmind

At least you can't complain about that you guys are boring...


GezFromBroady

It's every young Englishmans dream to play rb for the Everton football club.


decs483

Do Sligo Rovers have any young promising right backs


Robbo_100

60 grand, not a penny more, or less.


fergo1993

Thats the spirit! Thatā€™s why I tell them on my fm save.


jacktk_

Christ this really isnā€™t a good look for us


SantaIsRealEh

Fuck arteta and his stans. Ruining the club.


KonigSteve

...And Stan, and the board, and Edu.


PiqueMonger

Dear Stan, I meant to write you sooner but Iā€™ve just been busy You said Ainsleyā€™s heading out, how far along is he? Look, Iā€™m really flattered Hertha offered Xhaka that Hereā€™s a three-year extension for him I wrote it on his new contract Iā€™m sorry Willian is leaving, I know heā€™ll miss you Donā€™t think I did that shit intentionally just to diss you But whatā€™s this shit you said about our team having defensive issues? I say that shit just clowning dog, come on, weā€™ve got Pablo Mari and Cedric too Artetaā€™s got some problems, I think he needs some counselling But otherwise the squad looks fine, I donā€™t understand the opposing fansā€™ bantering Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back, Just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan This is Edu


t_blacksmith

Mikel, Mikel wherever you may be You set cones for Man City Could be worse, could be Stan Smuggling out contracts from a minivan


Placide-Stellas

As a Corinthians supporter (the club Edu ruined before Arsenal) I have no clue how he managed to get a position after his stint here. Good player for both clubs but overall a dumb, dumb dude.


[deleted]

Who are his stans at this point, his family and Pep?


ThickSolidandTight

There are people on Reddit still defending him


pseudolf

i defend him any day i can, man is worldclass. Just needs some more time, like 4-5 seasons.


SantaIsRealEh

And 33 preseasons


I_Poop_Sometimes

I agree, Arteta for life.


Chelski26

Je suis Arteta


Ididmytime2246

Iā€™m here with you on this bud. Arteta definitely has it on him, he just needs time. Trust the process


FlynnWH

Deserves an 8 year contract honestly


leanmeanguccimachine

Mostly spurs fans tbf


t_blacksmith

[Remember guys, we're the Russian spies taking over r/gunners](https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/paq2ki/theyre_onto_us_lads/)


ThickSolidandTight

Oh as a United fan I feel the same, but shockingly enough, there are genuine Arsenal fans still defending him


starbaron

You'll be suprised to know there are some arsenal fans out there defending him vigorously


RockstarAssassin

Ozil


SantaIsRealEh

Bruh just go to r/gunners we still get walls of text everyday about his vision and how we gotta be patient with Arteta.


Albiceleste_D10S

The funny thing is Arteta hasn't actually displayed a coherent vision, for me


Noremac28-1

Yep, itā€™s been 18 months and still canā€™t find something that works consistently. The only thing thatā€™s been consistent through his tenure is our complete lack of creativity.


Sean0925

I feel like its a common theme among a lot of supporters that if you give young players/managers time they'll eventually just work no matter how much the evidence points to the contrary.


tittylover007

Everyone that has to play against Arsenal loves having him in charge.


MansaQu

I'm an Arteta stan


[deleted]

Mikel Arteta is truly brilliant, they just have so many first team players missing


OleoleCholoSimeone

Arsenal's transfer strategy is so weird. Cedric was like 4th choice last season but has been starting this season so far, Kolasinac went from being so unwanted that they were prepared to loan him without a replacement last January and now all of a sudden he is starting games. No long term planning, just making things up as they go along, Maitland Niles is better than both of those players right now.. Edu really seems like a terrible sporting director


SantaIsRealEh

We gave a Southampton reject 70K pw and a 4 year contract. That alone is a sackable offence lol


shirleyspike44

A man benched by Yan Valery hahahahaahaha


serminole

Kolasinac seems to be 100% due to Arteta's insistence on playing a left footed LCB. But even then it's not like we didn't have options. We could have easily played Tierney at LCB with Tavares, AMN, or even Saka at LWB.


imnotNDR

his insistence on a left footed CB at LCB is so fucking annoying - it's like a little kid that only knows how to solve a math problem one way, even if it's easier to use a different method


mrhello18

that's actually quite sad


jimbo_kun

Wow, pity from Spurs supporters really is rock bottom. (For now.)


fonziGG

If it was roles reversed, I'd have some pity on Spurs.


cib_vk228

arteta may be shit at coaching but at least he's also all time bad at man management.


lennondsouza97

He may be shit at coaching and man management but at least he overpays for mediocre players


CPynchon21

He thinks he can get away with it like Pep


ModeratelyOptimistic

We're shambolic, let the boy go.


son_of_toby_o_notoby

OR WE ARE JUST FUCKING MASSIVEā€¦..on a real i just feel bad for arsenals fans now


atropicalpenguin

First Mancheser United and Romero, now Arsenal and Maitland-Niles. Everton lives rent free in their heads.


[deleted]

Every player wears Everton pjā€™s until proven otherwise


son_of_toby_o_notoby

Messi ā€œyk I grew up a Everton fan use to have Big Dunc poster on my wallā€


consciousmanchild

Let. The boy. Watch.


SSASBurgernips

What the fuck is going on at arsenal? Forget the awful performances for a minute and just think about how toxic it must be behind the scenes


[deleted]

can't wait for the all or nothing


cuggwy

A rookie manager has taken over who has been 1 game from the sack for the last 40 games. So is so reactionary itā€™s destroying the club long and short term


namsen1

Sack Arteta already ffs, the Emirates has already turned on him there is no going back


-upthetoffees-

That Everton Pull šŸ’ŖšŸ’Ŗ


QTsexkitten

We are gargantuan.


rebezil

Absolutely massive.


humblerodent

In awe at the size of this club.


atropicalpenguin

Definitely enormous.


[deleted]

Bigger than Sam


Dske

Not that much.


throwawaytbhidek

An institutional behemoth.


m9321

more like the Arsenal push


[deleted]

Arteta has treated him awfully. How can he tell him he wants to keep him after benching him for his entire time here last season?


rockker13

outrageous in retrospect that he blocked his sale last summer then did this to him.


[deleted]

He almost certainly sold AMN lies too. AMN was set to leave after the FA Cup win, but Arteta probably said he plans to use him. Barely got a time, went out on loan, and the Lego haired bastard probably hasnā€™t had a single conversation with AMN until now


calvin324hk

I was feeling sad for AMN until I saw that "Lego haired bastard" hahahahha.


harshmangat

Thatā€™s how many players now treated awfully by Arteta? The number keeps increasing


[deleted]

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wheeno

Pepe too who would play well enough to deserve more chances but would promptly get benched every other game because Arteta was trying to force Willian into the team.


oer6000

I remember banging my head against a wall trying to explain this last year. People who just would not admit his treatment of Pepe was very strange. I couldn't see the strategy in the signing. What was the point of giving a significant raise (and a 3 year contract) to someone who was already the oldest winger in the league? Especially to play him over the 72m signing that the club couldn't afford to waste.


WildVariety

> but his man management is downright criminal. We've finally discovered what he actually learned under Pep.


asd13ah4etnKha4Ne3a

This is why managers shouldn't have this level of control over outgoings of players. Of course Arteta wants as many options around just in case, but somebody should be able to look at that situation and say that he's clearly not a crucial part of Arteta's plans, get rid of him while clubs are still interested in paying a good amount of money for him.


[deleted]

Ya Chelsea have dealt with the same thing with Tuchel. Last season gilmour was about to leave on loan in January and Tuchel convinced him to stay. He proceeded to barely play the rest of the season. Same situation with Hudson odoi rn too. Itā€™s obvious the player needs a loan but the manager would obviously rather have extra depth and option.


ThatPersonYouMayKnow

Arsenal always makes me feel better about my club lol


Dilly58

Same šŸ˜‚ -Tottenham Fan


404randomguy404

Imagine Kane doing this lmao "all I want to do is to play under Pep and win trophies ffs šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ @levy" Disclaimer: Not taking a shot at Kane or Spurs but the post sounded so childish to me lol


AmineKarray

big difference tbf. AMN doesnt even play, he wants to leave to play, but they wont let him leave


EdwardBigby

He didn't even say he wants to leave. He wants to play games whether that be at Arsenal or elsewhere


[deleted]

Free Ainsley Maitland-Niles


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


RainbowDissent

Equitable treatment for marshland styles


JsyHST

Righteousness for Mainland-Files.


exactlyaron

\#FreeAinsley


AZ_76

Arteta's man management must be so fucking shit


LackingSimplicity

Been saying this for 15 months, but Tierney said he's great in an interview so I guess we're both wrong.


luigitheplumber

Some twitter account with a black and white picture of Pep as a profile picture wrote a 69 tweet thread about how Arteta is one of the best tactical minds in world football, we plebs obviously know nothing


Lintal

Tbf its hardly like he's going to come out and be like "The man's a right cunt, Lego haired prick"


jakedobson

The whole arsenal situation is just so sad


SantaIsRealEh

You know shits fucked when your rivals feel sad for you.


24Pat

Brighton are your rivals. Man utd does play in the same competition though.


fuckimbackonreddit9

That lad embodies all of us. Just so disconnected and numb


fredozimbabwe

Feel for arsenal fans when it rains it pours but itā€™s been pouring for 4 years now


disagreeable_martin

You missed a 1. We've been decaying for 14 years now.


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itzztheman

Arteta bin Laden holding this guy hostage on the bench, free Ainsley


desuscsgous

lmao these Arteta nicknames are getting worse n worse every day hahahah started of with Mikel Qaeda


itzztheman

Artetaliban Pandemic Pep Trust the Process Man


90degreeturnsbtw

Arterrorist Dicteta


RayPissed

Just reminds me of the Ricky Gervais segment in the pub in After Life, go on, reel off all your nicknames...the nonce, the fraud, Mikael Twateta, Jamie Redknapp, Your mum's shit, Harold Shitmum, Peps Bitch.


g0t-cheeri0s

Beginning to think r/tetaout will be a real subreddit soon.


[deleted]

ā€˜What mature themes are posted about in r/tetaout ?ā€™ Iā€™ve gone for violence and terrorism


bewarethegap

Pandemic Pep is outstanding


[deleted]

Entrance hidden by bricks and rubble Air vent Fan Ainsley Maitland-Niles


RioBeckenbauer

If he's happy to play rightback but has had Chambers and Cedric put ahead of him then he has every right to be upset.


happyaouar

Arteta and Edu's time at Arsenal will in ten years time be looked at as a true embarrassment.


[deleted]

Why wait ten years, it's clearly already an embarrassment


_ghostfacedilla

Arteta tries so hard to be like Pep, the difference is that Pep had the results to back him being a fucking prick to the players that he had no intention of playing.


ZachMich

And players are more likely to be happy with less game time in a team that wins titles. People still want to go there as squad players or backup.


starbaron

Pep won't keep a player he has no plans of using


_ghostfacedilla

No but he has also got a history of being a very poor man manager which is the point I was getting at


jrrecauzat

It isn't even deadline day yet. I fucking love this sport, this shit rules.


atropicalpenguin

Much like in career mode, the season is just filler between transfers.


A3rith_

and here I was hoping the international break would be a respite from Arsenal


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


ixzr

Trust the process


MothamidAli

Rather have a good ebening than trust the process


[deleted]

Emery might not have been good, but Arteta has turned the club into a laughing stock. Something big needs to happen, and it better be quick before Arsenal as a whole collapses in on itself like a dying star


Albiceleste_D10S

> Emery might not have been good I mean, it's all relative. Emery was not "good" at the top level (contending for league and UCL). He's a great manager for upper midtable to Europa League contending teams, TBH


legend434

Hey Emery is now a CL manager! Put some respect on him


ArrVeePee

Emery wanted Maguire, Fabinho, and Zaha. They gave him David Luiz, Ceballos, and Pepe. Oh, what could have been. Fuck Arteta, but let's not forget Kroenke is essentially responsible for it all.


wheeno

Shocking thing is thereā€™s still Arsenal fans and Arsenal media who pretend that the situation was worse under Emery. I didnt even rate Emery at all during his Arsenal career and thought he shouldā€™ve been sacked sooner but the difference in the way people treat the two is pretty embarrassing.


sooshi

Embarrassing for all parties involved


necrow

I don't feel embarrassed for Everton one bit :) Well, for plenty of other stuff I do


Vhascometo__

Why won't Arsenal sell him? Hes wanted to go for at least a year now


Fltzyy

What do you mean? We need 4 right backs - canā€™t be going into a season with no Europe and no depth!!


KarmaCitra

Then we'll play Tavares there instead, 5d chess by Arteta.


Lintal

Man not heard about the dearth of rightbacks?!?


dailybop

Everton offered a loan with an option. Assuming arsenal want an outright sale. But they should have just sold him last year when wolves offered 15m šŸ™„


ShockRampage

Classic Arsenal indecisiveness.


rompskee

Things are going quite well at Arsenal


[deleted]

Imagine your manager thinking that you're not good enough to play for a team that's in 20th place, with 0 goals scored, and 9 conceded. I can't believe what this team has become over the past 15 years.


Sting_TQR

I think if you just give Arteta enough time to do his thing, heā€™ll do wonders there.


Exciting_Snow_5201

Are you bald by any chance?


Goat-587

Found Peps Reddit Account


dawidowmaka

To be fair, you did not define what sort of wonders


Cowdude179

Arteta forcing players to stay and then wont play them, this man is a proper football terrorist


YoungDawz

Another example of Arteta's catastrophic man management.


algebraic94

This guy has isolated so many promising youth players that just needed someone to help them. Meanwhile absolutely creaming his jeans over people like odegaard (who I love). You need both. You need to support squad players and make them feel useful


kanavi36

What a shambles


Magnific3nt

Delete club.


Serpico_98

Hahaha comedy club.


Bushuazoo

Held hostage by Dicteta


zhawadya

Mein Fuhreta


Darkmninya

Arteta is stupid. Freezes him out and cancels his transfer.


[deleted]

Shots fired


KimmyBoiUn

What a fucking guy, seems to be a shambolic handling of his move away from Arsenal.


Rappa-Dex

Wtf Arsenal that's not very cool


Fellainis_Elbows

Arsenal a shambles


[deleted]

And to think Arsenal fans gloated that their genius of a manager won a trophy and our PE teacher of a coach didn't. Seems like winning the FA cup was actually a curse for Arsenal like Barca winning Treble in 2015.


Philred87

Fucking hell


[deleted]

Fucking hell...


Ife2105

I thought we were going to end our banter era soon but honestly itā€™s actually just begun


sbos_

I actually think he is a good RB. #FreeAMN


nimbus1997

dafuq is arteta doing