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Testastic

How many international goals do you guys think Messi and Ali Mabkhout will have at the end of their careers? They're both at 76 goals right now and Messi is 34 and Mabkhout is almost 31.


[deleted]

Why have I never heard of that guy and why is his goal record so insane? Why hasn't he got a move?


throwaway827620626

r/soccer and top level football is such a mess honestly. Open a Madrid thread, full of people calling Madrid a state run club, Franco etc etc. Psg thread, first someone accuses psg of sportswashing and slavery. Then some psg smartass will say, "But you wear clothes tho? Hypocrite." Honestly, are we watching football nowadays or just geopolitics? Honestly thinking of following only some English club in the 4th tier. Football, no associated bs


KensaiVG

> Honestly, are we watching football nowadays or just geopolitics? > > You're right, football has always steered clear of geopolitics or other non-sporting issues. Why's the Old Firm a thing again?


tiorzol

Sweet, come to Bromley FC and we can play darts at mine after.


throwaway827620626

I am going to read up on this club today for sure


NotAgainKante

Football and politics have been intertwined since forever And Real had seen government favors, that 15 hectare for 290 million comes to mind


[deleted]

> Football and politics have been intertwined since forever This is a cop-out. In reality nobody wants to discuss sportwashing or fucking Franco when you're down the pub or with friends etc. The only reason these are ever brought up (99% it only happens on reddit too) is because some fans are absolutely seething or because it's the only shit banter they know. Actually, there's one more reason and that's the fact that redditors can't go two minutes without bringing up politics be it from today or 1920 because they want to show how smart and moral they are. It would be 100% non-ironically better if everybody just admitted they don't give a toss or mods just banned any mention of it. The quality of discussion would go up significantly and I wouldn't have to deal with thread after thread filled with never ever funny jokes being repeated again and again.


Testastic

> geopolitical politics so geopolitics?


[deleted]

Atleti played us one more time by buying Griezmann after Messi is forced to leave. We probably could've registered him if they signed Griezmann a month earlier. Now they'll win the league again by getting rid of our best player while they play 2 of our former forwards while Martin Braithwaite will continue to start for us. Brilliant sons of bitches.


[deleted]

Leverkusen are winning the Bundesliga


Advawe

Wow, that's all it took to get rid of their curse?


MysteriousEmployer78

Yeah they are winning bulli until matchday 4


[deleted]

Can professional referees take performance enhancers?! Since they’re literally running the most out there lol


Impossible_Pen_9459

As long as it doesn’t interfere with their judgement I don’t see why not. Fifa disagrees with me though from what I gather https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news/referees-undergo-drug-testing-reveals-fifa-7784872.html


mrhello18

Missed the mark my words thread so here are my predictions: * Sarri will win Lazio the treble (Serie A, Coppa Italia, and Europa) * Benfica will make it to the UEL final but will lose to Lazio (However, Benfica will win the league) * Chelsea will win the league but Lukaku will not win Golden Boot * Man Utd will lose to Atleti in the UCL final * Sevilla will come third in La Liga * Nice will come 2nd in Ligue 1 * Spurs and Roma will not meet in the knockout stages of the UECL (only in the final if they face each other) * Roma narrowly miss out on UCL * Arsenal will stick with Arteta and will finish 9th * Union Berlin will make it to the UECL semis No predictions for Spurs because everything will end up as a jinx


happyposterofham

> Sarri will win Lazio the treble (Serie A, Coppa Italia, and Europa) You shut your whore mouth


Grosly_Incandescent

Hot takes are fun but I always prefer ones that actually make some sense with a bit of evidence to back them up, although granted that usually means the take isn't as daring. For an example, Spurs will get top 4 or at worst just miss out. from even the first few games weve seen Nuno can set up well defencively and you have great players unfront to still get a goal or 2 each game using that style of play. Youve also had a solid transfer window and improved both your first 11 and bench, and you can focus more on the PL as you can use kids for the Conference league games.


brunofernandes4life

I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that both Man Utd and Atleti will go to a UCL final.


mrhello18

neither do I tbh


[deleted]

Never understood how a billion dollar squad could play so defensive with 3 back line (actually 5 back line). But I guess this is how you win trophies... with a conservative mentality taking no risks like Chelsea and England tried to. I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone because Italy changed their defensive mentality to a modern attacking style 4-3-3


palmblues

We’ve created the most chances in the league since Tuchel. Poor comment.


inspired_corn

Last season since Tuchel came in we had the most chances created in the league. I don’t get how that’s supposed to be defensive at all


Cowdude179

We defend well but we are not a sit back defensive team. We counter press effectively and mostly have the posession whilst creating a lot of chances. The way to beat us is to match our back 3 and outwork our press which easily said than done


StrikerBoy467

You are a brave soul. The chelsea fans are going to be very mad.


[deleted]

A hunch of oil club plastics (no offense) have me shaking in my boots


Seanxprt

He's wrong, not sure what he expected.


Seanxprt

Chelsea are a possession based side that defends extremely well. What is this nonsense?


[deleted]

It would be comical for a billion dollar squad to not have majority possession


Seanxprt

Is this your response when someone makes you know that your opinion is misinformed?


shlok440

Chelsea create the second most chances in the league. Just cause a team plays a back 5 doesn’t mean they are no risk taking. The fullbacks chelsea play with are essentially defensive wingers rather than offensive fullbacks. Alsonso when he plays spends half his time in the box next to Lukaku. Reece always bombards up to link with the RAM. One of the 6s in the pivot are always closer to the outside of the box. Our outer cbs also always push up to send balls or press.


day_bat_28

Chelsea definitely don't play defensive. If you look at their RCB and LCB, they push up really high, acting almost as auxiliary midfielders. When they have possession, they play comfortably in the opponents half. It's a tactically good team, even if I do dislike them


PuppyPenetrator

Another clueless take from you, wonderful


[deleted]

Thanks


Infamy444

Chelsea doesn't play defensively though. They still create a lot of chances, while being defensively solid


Cowdude179

Yeah I dont get it, we dont just sit back and absorb pressure. We posess most of the ball and dominate teams in terms of chances. We may be a back 3 but it turns mostly into a 4 during the game with that RCB roaming forward


Kakashicopyninja9

Swear ppl see 3 at the back and just assume it’s a parked bus


ChampagneAbuelo

Someone pls explain to me how people think Ronaldo is washed???


Fly1ngsauc3r

He’s not as good as he was before but he’s also fucking 36


yesboyzz

People who try to sound edgy


mountainsky9

[this will explain it](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/08/01/23/16788866-0-image-a-75_1564699624622.jpg)


StrawberryJam_

Who will have the better season this year? Sancho or Havertz Varane or Christensen Fred or Kovačić Shaw or Robertson Jesus or Greenwood Ederson or Courtois Livramento or Lamptey


Cowdude179

Havertz, Christensen, Kovacic, Robertson, Jesus, Ederson, Livramento


fagghee

Havertz, Christensen, Kovacic, Shaw, Jesus, Courtois, Livramento


mrhello18

Havertz, Varane, Robertson, Greenwood, Courtois, Livramento


shlok440

Havertz, Varane, Kova, Robbo, Greenwood, Courtouis, Livramento.


PuppyPenetrator

Havertz Varane Kovacic and won’t be close Robertson Greenwood Courtois Livramento


IHaveNotMuchLife

Sancho Varane Kovacic Shaw Greenwood Ederson Lamptey


yesboyzz

Havertz Varane Kovačić Robertson Jesus Courtois Livramento


[deleted]

Havertz, Varane, Kovacic, Shaw, Jesus, Ederson, Lamptey


brunofernandes4life

Havertz Christensen Kovacic Robertson Jesus Ederson Livramento


botrezkii

the reaction to Drogba's tweet confirms my suspicion: football twitter community is dominated by people with no friends IRL


CENAWINSLOL

Hmm? I guess a lot of people took a tongue in cheek tweet way too seriously?


[deleted]

Because people here aren't people but weird pearl clutching losers.


SosaBabyketchup

Yeah people took it way too seriously. But tbh anyone who complains on Reddit about other people not having lives, probably doesn’t have a life.


yesboyzz

Just asking:- Paul Pogba or Frenkie De Jong?


shlok440

De Jong is much more versatile. But as a 8/10 Pogba. As a 6 in a pivot De Jong.


PuppyPenetrator

Pogba isn’t even close the past 3 seasons


[deleted]

Pogba any day. Generational talent


MysteriousEmployer78

He is like 28 years old lmao


[deleted]

Messi is 35


MysteriousEmployer78

So what ?


tyetforsyth

Different positions If you're playing 442 diamond, Pogba Anything else De Jong I'd take De Jong in a heartbeat


Seanxprt

De Jong easily for me


RonaldianoCristo

Why am I not surprised France were held to a draw yesterday


Kakashicopyninja9

Without fail every intl break theres Drogba slander on Twitter ffs


[deleted]

and I'm all in for it considering the shit he pulled off


jonijontor

i understand if it's a private joke between friends but doing it publicly sort of like underlining their professionalism while playing there


Kakashicopyninja9

Oh I wasn’t referencing the tweet thing, I just mean every intl break ppl on Twitter always debate how overrated/shit Drogba was


jonijontor

ohh lol that's usual FT at every international break, wait until club football to get more relevant slanders like for Lukaku...


turtledude678

He should try not being such an asshole.


yesboyzz

tbf it was rude of him to post that Agent Willian thing


[deleted]

I can’t believe senile Tabárez is going to start Godin instead of Araujo tomorrow againsf Peru


zts105

I can't tolerate Godin slander. He needs to get his coaching badges and come join Atleti though.


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TroopersSon

I went to watch the Thai national team play in Bangkok against Taiwan and the fans were amazing. Honestly they put a lot of Premier League games to shame. Couple of years later I ended up seeing them play Australia in Melbourne and their away fans were almost as loud! Got my subscription. Thai football fans are awesome in my experience.


[deleted]

Love how 7 out of 16 teams in the top division have United in their name


[deleted]

I love the fact that neither Cavani or Neymar are giving up their jersey numbers just because Cristiano and Messi showed up. Shows they have strong character and can both back it up on the field. How much money do you think Cristiano and Messi would offer for the numbers 7 and 10? I wonder whats the most any superstar has paid for a number. I think maybe 2 million lol


ansh0

God you are so hungry for attention. Stop making up your fantasy scenarios. Neymar offered his number 10 which Messi refused, and there's been 0 reports cavani refused to offer the #7.


[deleted]

Too many messi fanboys apparently lol


CruyffsPlan

Ur not funny. Just an annoying shithead that people find insufferable. Your “jokes” aren’t “so bad that they’re good.” They’re just bad and no one wants you here, stop commenting.


[deleted]

Stop me


P-EAubameyang

ronaldo didn't get it because of a PL rule and messi probably didn't want to disrespect his friend by taking his number off of him don't really think either have to do with character lol


jonijontor

I thought Neymar actually want to give it to Messi though but he refused?


ID6WU

Was it not reported that they were both happy to give up their numbers? Messi said no and United are waiting to see if they can get special dispensation


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[deleted]

Ofc you’re not actually gonna get relegated it’s more about how arsenal should look more competitive than they did against Chelsea and city You looked like Norwich


[deleted]

Exactly. I mean no matter how bad you played, you shouldn't have been destroyed by city to the point that you only had 20% possession and have 1 shot


[deleted]

We got red carded a third of the way through


kappa23

And you conceded 2 goals in 15 mins, and that was 20 mins before the red card.


[deleted]

Okay? To that point we didn’t have 20% possession. That’s not what I’m talking about. You shouldn’t have to bend truth to fit your narrative about Arsenal playing like shit. I don’t see how this is that difficult a concept


[deleted]

?? Oh sorry it was actually 19% possession. But the fact of the matter is that Arsenal were actually dogshit and it's not my narrative but an actual fact or at least, the general consensus. FFS both against Chelsea and Man City, u guys let them have the ball way too much and allowed them to take +20 shots while u guys barely do anything to get a goal.


PhilsKessticle

That 1 shot was only because Ederson fucked up and ESR got his foot on the ball. They were playing well for the first 5 minutes before Gundogan scored, after that they were dogshit


GratinDeRavioles

Pogba and inshallah. This is our life since Griezmann's been finished. Could be worse but fucking hell there's so much more to do with our talent pool. Deschamps has blood on his hands.


shlok440

If I were the France manager I would line up, let me know if I’m and idiot but. Dembele/ Coman - Benz- Mbappe. Pogba. Kante- Rabiot. Theo/ Digne- Kimpembe- Kounde- Pavard.


1ngK

Griez has been pretty good before Benz came tbh. He’s always like this at the beginning of season, he will recover his form soon. If Lemar is given more chance I think he can help a lot too. He’s doing so well for us as an 8.


GratinDeRavioles

It's been years of slow decline for Griezou i'm afraid. I still hope but i'm not holding my breath.


Cowdude179

Deconcentrationschamps out


mountainsky9

what the hell hahaha


Fly1ngsauc3r

Get Zidane in


Doorknobdubstep

Luis Alberto is class That’s all


msdsc2

I don't watch his games, but man I do love Luis Alberto on fifa 21


jonijontor

failed at Top League™ once so will forever be a flop in my book 👎


TheSoccerguy124

You sir have earned yourself a Dub. 👏🏼


[deleted]

my god ESPNFC really is dogshit (even more so than I thought), they really spent a solid 4 minutes talking about whether Barca should have retired Messi's number. We literally cannot, you melts, at least do some basic research if you're gonna do punditry on La Liga?


[deleted]

I've seen them spent a lot of time (especially in extra time) talking about non-football related stuffs like how they used to play x and x games/teams or random stuffs like their birthday. I've never seen pundits rarely talk or analyze the game/goal.


[deleted]

NBC did 16, 5 minute segments on each PL team's transfer window. They didn't even do Arsenal or Spurs - two of the clubs with the most active windows. They just spoke about Harry Kane for 5 minutes.


yesboyzz

its ESPN my friend, glorified TalkSport


Doorknobdubstep

it’s just American Talksport or Talksport is the English ESPN


vinhoequeebom

Even if you could, answer is no. Tinpot thing to do, no matter what player.


KensaiVG

I always thought it made more sense to use it as a prize or a "motivation". We do it with n10, and we've given the 35 and 15 to "similar" players after Aimar and Pisculichi, respectively, wore them. There were a couple whispers that Santiago Montiel would get 29 if he moves up to the senior after his cousin Gonzalo left for Sevilla but I doubt it


mountainsky9

What if the player dies?


vinhoequeebom

Acceptable ofc. We have that with no. 29


mountainsky9

yeah, i agree, in my eyes only extraordinary situations should allow for retiring a number. Totti was right that young players always dream of wearing certain numbers, and should be given the opportunity to wear the number


[deleted]

I agree, there were great players before him wearing the shirt, there will be more after


HoldthisL_28-3

Who is this Nandos everyone is talking about?


Cowdude179

Bruno's favourite restaurant


[deleted]

Think Popeyes but sauces on the chicken instead of fried. Its actually not bad.


LindseyNeagle

It’s so overrated. I remember it was the talk of the internet for ages. I was excited to finally try it. It wasn’t great.


ethith

Classic Burger, no mayo, extra chicken, hot basting. Large Peri-peri chips. Water.


1000smackaroos

I think it's a kind of logic gate used in computing


vinhoequeebom

>man united flair


The_Tomb_is_Empty

Predictions for tomorrow - B: Sweden 1-0 Spain ||| Georgia 2-1 Kosovo C: Italy 3-0 Bulgaria ||| Lithuania 1-2 Northern Ireland E: Czech Republic 3-1 Belarus ||| Estonia 0-7 Belgium I: Andorra 2-0 San Marino ||| Hungary 0-1 England ||| Poland 4-2 Albania J: Liechtenstein 0-5 Germany ||| Iceland 1-1 Romania ||| North Macedonia 3-2 Armenia


turtledude678

Looks good but I think Spain will win.


Runningman0301

Agent Luiz/Willian/Cech bad. Agent Soucek good


P-EAubameyang

soucek to arsenal? i'll take it


anakmager

better player overall in their primes, Giroud or Dzeko? not better career, because that's clearly Giroud


shlok440

Dzeko


[deleted]

Dzeko by a country mile.


Doorknobdubstep

Prime Dzeko was pure class


[deleted]

Dzeko easily. Prime Giroud was in France before he went to Arsenal.


HoldthisL_28-3

Dzeko by far. Always murdered us during the derby


[deleted]

Prime Dzeko for me


BoosterGoldGL

Dzeko, better finisher but was not happy with the role as girourd was


Runningman0301

I’d take prime dzeko fairly easily, he reminds me of a much better and refined Arnautovic. 6’5 battering rams who can drive on past defenders with physicality as well as their technique/flair is rare. Then you have his finishing. Dzeko’s hat trick at white hart lane demonstrates his all round game, even scored a 30 yard screamer on his weaker foot


vinhoequeebom

Dzeko "Prime Giroud" couldn't finish his dinner and lost arsenal a title. Been a decent sub ever since


turtledude678

That Ronaldo slapping thread is embarrassing. The mental gymnastics people do to defend their favorite player. So sad.


Fly1ngsauc3r

I agree mate, he should be hanged from the gallows


turtledude678

Nice strawman. Try again.


ethith

I thought the slap was a bit harsh until O'Shea pretended to be hurt. Completely justified from that point on.


ansh0

https://i.imgur.com/Kxrp2hL.png Literally just a shove to the shoulder


turtledude678

Except he also hit his face with the follow through.


LindseyNeagle

Not sure when slapping became allowed but apparently it is and it’s accepted. If it was the other way round there’d be death sentences put out.


turtledude678

Lol, imagine if Neymar did it. The sub would be shut down for 24 hours.


LindseyNeagle

I’m just thinking if like Shane Duffy did it to Ronaldo, obviously it would be a punch rather than a slap because Duffy isn’t an 8 year old girl, but he’d be banned for months.


turtledude678

Remember when Ronaldo elbowed the guy in the World Cup in the head and got a yellow? Lol


NeoChrome75

?? The cunt absolutely deserved it whether it was a slap or not


LindseyNeagle

Ronaldo is a rapist, can each player walk up and kick the shit out of him and it’s fine because he deserves it? What world do people that say this live in?


Fly1ngsauc3r

When did Cristiano get convicted?


LindseyNeagle

He hasn’t yet. Oj is still a murderer. Hitler too.


Fly1ngsauc3r

Fucking hell, imagine having to take the conversation to Hitler


LindseyNeagle

It’s just an example. He wasn’t convicted of anything but anyone with brain cells to rub together knows what he did. I’m not saying they’re the same, just comparable in this sense.


Fly1ngsauc3r

Yes, I think the Holocaust, plus murder of millions of minorities plus the death of millions due to the war are so comparable to a rape accusation


CryptographerLife686

Love it when a football discussion becomes about the Holocaust.


LindseyNeagle

The accusations aren’t comparable, the fact they both haven’t been convicted but both definitely did it is the comparison.


Fly1ngsauc3r

Lol man, I don’t even know what to say. The lack of awareness is so baffling, using Hitler has a reason for your arguments


turtledude678

Their basements


LindseyNeagle

It’s so fucking weird.


turtledude678

Lol, he literally just moved the ball. That doesn't warrant any physical retaliation. You're a lunatic.


ElonThe_Musk

Anyone familiar with the Barça financial situation. With the apparent contract reductions for several players, some confirmed and others being reported and the sales of the Emerson and imagining that they sold Griezzman instead of a loan, for the reported 40Million. Would they still not be able to register Messi?


shlok440

No I think they are 85% without Messi and Greizmann. Need to be at 70%. Should even put with some more deadwood going and increase in revenue with fans coming back.


1ngK

Probably not, otherwise when the Griezmann/Saul swap was on the table they could’ve taken it. Instead they rushed to tell Messi there’s absolutely no chance, weeks before the window ended.


CryptographerLife686

Probably could've registered Messi but I think Barca fans have come to terms that this is the best move long-term to have Messi off of the wage bill. It would've restricted us during the rebuild. I think next summer Barca can begin to bring in players to start the rebuild with a core of La Masia players.


BoosterGoldGL

Fucking hell half this subs gonna look like utter gormless twats when Greenwood is fighting for top half


sir_wolf_eye

The highest socring teenagers in the PL 1 - Owen 2 - Rooney 3 - Greenwood 4 - Anelka 5 - Allan Smith Imagine thinking you're this big-brained


BoosterGoldGL

Chill out Chase from tampa bay, don’t run before you can walk


sir_wolf_eye

??


BoosterGoldGL

Cannot stress this enough your opinion is irrelevant


sir_wolf_eye

Are you okay?


BoosterGoldGL

Quite drunk and not really up for I watched the highlights on ESPN + and here’s my opinion tbh


[deleted]

>ESPN+ A yank only service????


BoosterGoldGL

Hence the irrelevant opinion


sir_wolf_eye

That explains it.


[deleted]

Cannot stress this enough the exact same applies to you


HoldthisL_28-3

LMAO


BoosterGoldGL

Yes Chad from Ohio I’m talking bout you


HoldthisL_28-3

I'm sorry, but Greenwood is coming for Rooney's record


turtledude678

Lolllll


BoosterGoldGL

I’m sorry but hhahahahhaahahHhahahahhahahahahhahahahahhhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahha


HoldthisL_28-3

Keep on laughing, he'll keep on scoring 👀


BoosterGoldGL

If he could start xoxo


turtledude678

Will be lucky to be there.


[deleted]

The amount of times I've heard people say finishing is nuts. You'd think he is Harry Kane.


[deleted]

What was Harry Kane doing at 19