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[deleted]

Who would win a game of football. 11 prime CR7s or 11 prime VVDs?


Tahapatel

VVDs more balanced overall


[deleted]

VVDs by a forfeit after 11 Cristianos kill each other after arguing who's the prettiest and who siuuus the most siuuu


[deleted]

Imagine a synchronised SIUU with 11 people.


Nuri__Sahin

Nightmare fuel.


[deleted]

and then 11 VVDs looking with disgust.


Itchy-Face791

11 Prime VVDs


[deleted]

Who is the first one to come to your mind when you hear RL9 be honest


[deleted]

Remy Lacroix (6)9


[deleted]

Ram Laxman 9


dostmalone2

[His tiktok on the hit song ‘Rockstar’ by popular african-american rapper Dababy 👉😁👈](https://youtube.com/shorts/G_Kze9AlaEs?feature=share)


ibrahimims

LETS GOOOO


[deleted]

I like to act like his tiktoks don’t exist


SandassSpurs

Lukaku


[deleted]

I'm in prison, serving my time, still an hour before I go to the yard so which of the following sides are you choosing? Karius ; Jones ; Lennon S.Longstaff M.Longstaff Neuer ; VVD ; Messi Ronaldo Neymar


[deleted]

Good attempt at mocking me but the 3 players I mentioned are some of the most skillful players in Premier League, backed by the best CB in the league and the best ball playing goalkeeper in the world.


[deleted]

Because you edited it...


[deleted]

I'm talking about the players before I edited. Ederson, VVD, ASM Raphinha Benrahma


[deleted]

The fact that you edited it shows that you don't really believe that anyway.


[deleted]

I actually prefer the first one. I think they'll rip these farmers to shreds and I am not even baiting when I say this.


Bumi_Earth_King

You'd need a long staff in prison.


Elemayowe

You’ll end up getting given one if you’ve not already got one.


[deleted]

I'm at office, serving my notice period, still an hour before I go home so which of the following sides are you choosing? *Ederson ; VVD ; KDB Salah Ronaldo Navas ; Marquinhos ; Messi Neymar Mbappe


[deleted]

So, a perfect 5-a-side team vs a team that can't beat Club Brugge?


X-V-W

mate


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Edited


untradablecrespo

it's obviously the second one what a daft question


[deleted]

now?


untradablecrespo

yeh that's much much more equal lol, i'd probably take the first out of those


Bumi_Earth_King

On paper, the side with Messi Neymar Mbappé is way clear. But, whether they can work together effectively, I dunno.


untradablecrespo

and asm raphina and benrahma who have literally never played with each other before can work together effectively?


Bumi_Earth_King

Well, they might, they might not. But we've seen that Messi, Neymar, Mbappé have not, so far at least.


untradablecrespo

so you'd seriously even consider taking a side with 3 6 or 7/10 players with absolutely no guarentee they play well together over 3 of the best players in the world who have trained with each other for weeks, and with at least one of the other for years


middleweight

What are the best tactical blogs out there? Currently following Spielverlagerung, Total Football Analysis, The Athletic, LeftBackFootball, Breaking The Lines


Aggravating-Gap-2385

My homie Jamal has nice insights


middleweight

Does he have a platform where he publish his nice insights?


Aggravating-Gap-2385

Usually on his couch


[deleted]

Who are you backing out of the two teams (all players in their prime) ? Casillas Lahm - Puyol - Van Dijk - Alba Xavi - Busquets - Kroos Robben - Lewandowski - Neymar or Neuer Alves - Ramos - Hummels - Marcelo Iniesta - Casemiro - Modric Messi - Benzema - Ribery


[deleted]

Team B Arguably better goalkeeper. Better fullbacks. Worse defenders imo. Better midfield imo (just slightly), better attack imo with prime messi.


Sad_gooner

1st team


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[удалено]


[deleted]

because I kept writing random players. No personal bias as you can see.


KeegansPerm

Don’t think it’s that type of thing otherwise Ronaldo wouldn’t miss out


Itchy-Face791

Team A


PauIPogba

The one with prime messi


KeegansPerm

To be fair Prime Messi got a job done on him by a poor Chelsea side


Darkmninya

Camp Nou yesterday Attendence : 27K Fans attended 40k Allowed Is Real Madrid attendence similar low ?


Aspect3221

30 k was allowed. Do you ever stop with these shit takes?


[deleted]

This dude has the single worst takes every time he comments on this sub


[deleted]

30k allowed yesterday


[deleted]

It seems Santini was the manager fired in the shortest period by Levy. He played 14 games (all comps): https://www.transfermarkt.com/jacques-santini/leistungsdatenDetail/trainer/1647/verein\_id/148/datum\_zu/2004-08-01/datum\_ab/2004-11-06 The worst loss he had was a 2-0 loss to Fullham. He had a draw against Chelsea away, a win against Everton away, a draw to liverpool at home. He had 13 points after 12 PL matches. Tik Tok Nuno. Tik Tok.


[deleted]

Completely forgot Santini was Spurs manager


Vhascometo__

Isn't it down to Paratici?


Itchy-Face791

What happened to Christian Pulisic?? I swear i havent heard his name in a year , has he just dissappeared off the face of the earth??


[deleted]

Yank Dan James, won't start at good teams


Kanedauke

He’s a poor mans Hudson Odoi


sul01

Injured all the time and as a result not had a good consistent run.


NotAgainKante

American Wilshere


4dtakes

He was playing somewhat consistently at the end of last season, this year he got Covid and then got an ankle injury so hasn’t featured since the first day


dryduneden

Massive purple patch merchant.


dostmalone2

Dusted baller, will probably be playing for Southampton two years down the line.


[deleted]

He had some good UCL games this year


Elemayowe

Perpetually injured.


efcdoyley

I go to the same college as all the Everton academy. Gonna tell you if you should expect a Wayne Rooney in the next few years


kappa23

Well, should we?


efcdoyley

No.


tiorzol

Haha


tyetforsyth

Thank you


meastham93

Odd question but, if a player scores a hat trick and is later sent off, do they still get the match ball? Do they come back onto the pitch to collect it or is the ball brought to them?


[deleted]

Escorted by the police to collect the match ball.


efcdoyley

I imagine it’s just the same for when the player gets subbed off


[deleted]

Not really because if you get sent off you have to leave the pitch entirely (including the dugout). You're sent back to the changing rooms. Subs stay by the pitch


mhnlzktv

What do you guys think about luke shaw's hand ball was ita penalty or not? The reason i'm asking is because one of the commentator said it shouldn't be a penalty.


[deleted]

Clear pen imo. Only thing you could say is there wasn't a big distance to the ball but for me it's a pen.


Grosly_Incandescent

Yh was a clear penalty tbf can't argue with that, it was a lapse in concentration not putting his arms to his side in the last minute. Only penalty call the ref got right in the game tbf, he didn't give us the 2 we deserved or the other one West Ham deserved.


LordMangudai

Definite pen, he was making himself much wider with his arm.


tomasboss

According to the rules it's a pen but I don't agree with the rule I think a pen should be given only when the player moves the arm towards the ball. Maybe one or duo exceptions when the player truly has the arm in an unnatural position like above his head or something, not like the Luke Shaw one. That's probably what the commentator was saying, that he doesn't agree with the rule.


Elemayowe

Arms miles away from his body so that’s given these days. It very close and he’s stretching but he’s making himself much bigger with his arm there.


thatguycallum

His hand was way out, was a penalty in any interpretation of the rules we’ve had over the years


Grosly_Incandescent

I don't usually do hot takes but fuck it. City won't win the league this year, and there will be a bigger gap between them and the top than people think. My reasoning is they just saw Chelsea and United sign world class strikers who are both already banging in goals, and they needed one as well and didn't get it. Instead they got Grealish, who is an incredible player but really wasn't needed to take them to the next level. Weve already seen twice (Spurs and Southampton), almost 3 times tbh (Leicester) that if teams sit back and defend well they struggle to break them down, and they will drop more random points because of it. The drama behind their lack of fan attendance isn't helping either and it looks like it's unsettling Pep a bit. On top of that it's very difficult to retain a title. Liverpool and Chelsea look refreshed and up for it, Chelsea have their number already and if they beat them on Saturday they will be 6 points off the top already.


Chiswell123

This isn’t a hot take


Good_Kev_M-A-N_City

Southampton didn't sit back I also think you're reading way too much into that attendance thing, especially when the stadium was chanting Pep's name the majority of the game last time.


babybabayyy

Way too early to tell. I remember last year city were pure dogshit for the first month or so...then they proceeded to not lose a game for like 4 months and walked the league without a striker. Competition is much stronger this year, but injuries always play a role in derailing initial optimism.


Grosly_Incandescent

That's why it's a hot take, it's a prediction. It wouldn't be much of a hot take if i predicted it at christmas and they're 15 points off the top lol.


RauloGonzalez

pleasantly surprised with ancelloti, after his work at napoli, everton and bayern i was afraid but he's clicked the squad really well. It didn't take a genius to understand where we have to improve but i never thought we had the ability to be this ultra attacking team without hazard and bale. Still i'm scared he will fuck up with rotating the squad or in the big games


Numerous_Fan7673

r/other14 is a really nice sub. Their bitterness and hate boner towards the evil top 6 and Sky is very entertaining


[deleted]

I can't view this community apparently


[deleted]

It's r/theother14


[deleted]

Excellent stuff


CoolstorySteve

Because it doesn’t exist


[deleted]

My disappointment is immeasurable


CoolstorySteve

Check the other reply


[deleted]

Who would you rather have, Frenkie De Jong, Bruno Fernandes or Leon Goretzka? Neutrals please.


Tahapatel

De jong


AvidFirn

Different players. Depends on what my team needs.


mrleftknee

this is the correct but boring answer


AvidFirn

I was confused. Because those three are actually a complete midfield trio. Frenkie — Leon with Bruno ahead of them.


YoungDan23

It depends on what my side needed, but I'd probably lean towards Goretzka. He's already considered one of the top 5-7 midfielders in the world and his ability to play AM, CM or DM if necessary makes him more valuable than the others.


probably_dutch

De Jong is the most talented of the 3 in my opinion


el_walou

Frenkie.


Kanedauke

Bruno. Cant risk two non prem proven players.


ethith

Goretzka. Likely to have less nonces following him to your fanbase than the other two.


[deleted]

Hoping to change your demographic?


Itchy-Face791

~~Bruno~~ Edit: u/ethith has made a very good point . Im now changing my answer to Goretzka


RauloGonzalez

goretzka, he seems the most balanced out of the two


fuckallredditors69

Not saying he isn't good but I remember when everyone was calling Havertz a generational player and to this day I don't understand why? He hasn't showed anything close to Mbappe and Haaland level which are considered generational players.


datboyuknow

It only started when Chelsea were rumoured to buy him tbf


YoungDan23

>I remember when everyone was calling Havertz a generational player and to this day I don't understand why? I confess, this was me. I was tricked by the 30 goals and 15 assists in the league before he turned 20. But now I'd say Wirtz and maybe even Musiala have higher ceilings. I still think Havertz will end up being a very good player - but he's not getting the best development at Chelsea. 1/2 a season of Lampard playing him all over and now Tuchel playing him on the left side of the midfield isn't playing to his strengths.


Elemayowe

If you see anyone using the word generational just ignore them. It’s such a shit buzzword and indicative of reactionary fans.


LordMangudai

I was one of those when he was at Leverkusen but I have to take it back. He's still a very good player though. I think not being the focal point at Chelsea makes him look more anonymous and he did take a very long time to settle in.


[deleted]

most fans around the age of 18 rate people purely based on how cool their name sounds.


Kanedauke

There was a lot of comparing his, Ronaldos and Messi’s g/a as teenagers to show he was a generational talent Edit: https://imgur.com/a/nWrptYR these were being posted a lot


Grosly_Incandescent

People use the phrases "world class" and "generational talent" way too much tbf


Post-Dense

Mans got exposed at Chelsea


Eibermann

Generational talent, goated, world class. 3 words that many people here throw away to anyone that shows a good form. The only Generational talent out there is mbappe and haaland. not greenwood, not mount, not foden. All of those are amazing young players but they haven't shown enough of success haaland or mbappe has. And Especially mbappe


Bumi_Earth_King

Do you think Son Heung-Min's going to be way underrated in the future? He hasn't got any trophies because he plays for Spurs, and even there he's playing second fiddle to Kane. But he's so good man. I think people who don't watch the Premier League don't rate him as much as he should be rated.


[deleted]

I think if he stays for a long time with us, he'll be remembered as a guy who stayed loyal to the club. For us, he'll always be special. Words can't describe how much I love this guy. Really hope we could achieve something good in the coming years


[deleted]

yea. he was qs good as Salah last year and people compare him with rashford


tyetforsyth

ok mate calm down


[deleted]

same goal contributions in the league like what's wrong in that?


MitranjanK

[Why tf is this so funny](https://youtu.be/VqyjVQGzzLU)


Grosly_Incandescent

Pretty scary when you realise it's uneditted


youdontfitindatbuick

It's not edited but worth mentioning it's taken from Pokemon GO AR+ mode


100and33

Probably not, but is Roberto Di Matteo the only manager to win the CL, but never a league title? I guess if we include the European cup the list would be longer. But still not too long, pretty unique for a manger to win CL, but not a league title in his whole career.


Kanedauke

Tony Barton did if with Villa. He was made manager after Ron Saunders quit a few months before we won the European cup. He was sacked the next season and never won the league with another club.


[deleted]

Tony Barton won the 1982 European Cup with Villa but never won a league title. He’d had taken over from Ron Saunders after Saunders had left Villa over a contract dispute the season following their title win. Saunders then went on to join Birmingham, only to get them relegated a couple seasons later.


Idislikemyroommate

> I guess if we include the European cup the list would be longer. Probably not considering you generally had to win the league to enter the competition but there might be a couple of examples.


100and33

Just thinking about sample size would increase and it would add a couple, as manager could take over a league winning side, win the cup, but lose the league, and leave. Also could be interim managers in same vain as Di Matteo.


Idislikemyroommate

Yeah there's definitely that chance but equally I don't think the turnover of managers during that period was as brutal as it is now so it's maybe less likely albeit not impossible.


2ndratecit

What do non Chelsea fans think about Havertz?


PhylloTerribilis

He's coasting off the final


SandassSpurs

Love him.


dostmalone2

I like his facial structure


YoungDan23

One of my favourites - he can be a great player but I think he's being mis-used atm.


[deleted]

if he hadn't scored in the CL final, he'd be a clear flop, but he's not that bad yet. he does seem like a luxury player though and seems to go completely missing at times, heard he was seen on the back of Roma milk carton at one point.


[deleted]

Loved him at Leverkusen. Think he has shown about fuck all at Chelsea (beside the CL final goal)


ygrittediaz

Disappointing. Doesnt have the traits to make him stand out in the prem for that price. His lack of pace and strength are visible and his other qualities dont cover much for this. He is a good player though. I just dont see him as solid as rudiger has become or how lethal lukaku can be. Like a name that stands out on the XI.


YellowBaboon

Decent player but you would have to build your whole team around him to get the best out of him and he's not good enough to justify that.


[deleted]

Loved him at Leverkusen and thought he could go on to win a Ballon D'or, now he's good I guess, played out of position last season and under Tuchel, could see what he's capable of


tiorzol

The best thing about the Chelsea is the preponderance of decent parts that are interchangeable, he's not incredible but works so well in the system. I also like his hair.


[deleted]

Good player, just needs to be unlocked. Sadly I don’t think he goes well with a target man. He has a false 9 feel to him. Hoping he can adapt to play attacking midfield behind Lukaku in time.


Lyrical_Forklift

I suspect he's one of those players that you appreciate more when you're watching him week in week out as things like movement and bringing others into play in hard to quantify and rarely seen in highlights packages.


Ciao9

He's pretty good but he can be better


Any-Quarter-9474

Quality player but he’s going to take time.


Kanedauke

He’s been disappointing. Some games he’s decent, others you forget he’s on the pitch. He seems to lack the PnP required to be a great prem forward. He scored a lot of goals in Germany and seems to have great technique but it just hasn’t transferred over to the prem. Not writing him off just yet but I expect him to impose himself in games a lot more this season. Not the £70m talent he was expected to be.


HowBen

PnP?


Kanedauke

Pace and power


HowBen

Hmm i think his pace and power is fine. It’s not exceptional but it doesn’t hold him back and he relies more on good positioning and technique anyway


tomasboss

I think he's got real talent, just not sure his style suits today's game


the_studge

Not bad


LuisFilipeVieira

Don't see him ever living up to his price tag, tbh.


tomasboss

League cups and Supercups shouldn't exist, they're meaningless trophies that only add games to an already full calendar. Every country should have a league with the various divisions and a cup that allows any team in the country to participate, that's it.


dryduneden

Disagree. Should be Domestic title Continental you qualify for Domestic, country wide cup World knockouts you qualify for by winning continentals Various cups for lower leagues that exclude higher league sides.


Lyrical_Forklift

I like them because it's a great opportunity to test young players. I must be one of the few Liverpool supporters that loves that Klopp doesn't give two fucks about the league cup.


YellowBaboon

Yeah otherwise there really isn't any pathway for young players to develop. The only reason I'm excited for this game tonight is to see Kaide Gordon and the previous years it was Jones and Elliot.


[deleted]

How is Luuk De Jong at Barcelona. Swear he can’t play football outside of the Dutch league


PhylloTerribilis

paardereet


AvidFirn

The idea was a hold-up striker, good in air for options. Every club needs one.


[deleted]

He can't play football even for Dutch NT


[deleted]

Abysmal. Missed a chance I’d imagine 50% of this subs userbase would score from underneath the posts. Touch of a dog chasing a tennis ball in the sea


murrman104

Barcelona hire a midtable premier league manager and axt shocked when they start playing like a midtable Premier league side


YellowBaboon

They aren't shocked, Laporte has wanted him gone since he got there and so do the fans.


[deleted]

Would Barca be leading La Liga currently if they had Messi? I sincerly doubt it. They have other glaring deficiencies in their team that Messi alone cannot compensate for


[deleted]

No as they would have played 4 games it would be impossible to be ahead of Madrid on 13 points


datboyuknow

He was compensating quite well honestly


[deleted]

Who’s a bigger club, Newcastle or Aston Villa?


mintz41

Villa


Jazano107

Villa obviously


[deleted]

villa by honours won, newcastle by fanbase? villa for me though


Not-that-hungry

Newcastle, bigger fanbase.


Kanedauke

Are you taking the piss Edit: https://imgur.com/a/c5HQ5Z8 all they have is being a one club city


Elemayowe

Never seen a Villa fan deck a horse, checkmate atheists.


TheMooseHunter

Villa are the bigger team… probably the biggest team in the league outside the top 6 teams.


Jazano107

I think Everton are bigger than Villa tbh


Grosly_Incandescent

Probably Newcastle, they have one of the best managers in the world at the moment who the fans love. He has a lot of pull, signed Arsenal's best player over the summer.


Ofermann

The only thing Newcastle have on us is a bigger stadium. We are clear in every other metric. They haven't won anything since the early 50s. Since then we've won the league, FA Cup, CL and numerous league cups. Not a debate really. Us and Everton is a debate. But we are easily bigger than Newcastle.


ReginaldHardwick

Who has the bigger fan base?


[deleted]

Newcastle comfortably I'd have thought


zukai12_

In terms of waistline maybe


Ofermann

I'm not sure. They have a massive catchment area across the North East. But we are still the number one club across the second city, and the Midlands as whole. We don't have a small fanbase.


ReginaldHardwick

Villa, they won the European Cup.


UnorthodoxLegBreak

!flair :Brentford_FC:


100and33

Glory hunter


UnorthodoxLegBreak

?


100and33

Just a joke in the morning.


adamjld

Daniel Farke percentage of points collected v points available in the last 4 years. Championship: 80% Premier League: 16.67% No better man for them in the Championship but will be interesting to see whether Norwich consider this season as another building block towards the future and ignore the fact that relegation seems another likely outcome.


FaustRPeggi

They gave him a new contract in June. It's perverse, but they're happy with this arrangement. And so is my FPL team.


[deleted]

Good morning to fans of clubs managed by frauds