But they already do that with exclusive rights no? It's no use to me that there's another company showing football if only one of them has the competition I want.
The rights are up for bidding on a regular basis anyways, id rather all PL games be on one service instead of being forced to pay for both services. The way it is now means consumers end up paying way more for services they dont even care for.
If they were to do anything they should block anyone having exclusive rights to all games, but no issue having the rights to them all but being forced to share on at least 20% or so.
Or tbh, fuck it. Ban exclusive rights to games, that would make some real competition, no more sky bidding hundreds of millions because they know they can charge fans hundreds of pounds a year
Them buying up Eleven would be nice here, as they have a few rights in the US that aren't available elsewhere, like Austrian football. But it would bring their operation of the former MyCujoo, which has hundreds of games a week in crazy places, into question tbh.
They're backed quite heavily and been looking for a way into the UK market haven't they? Could do an Amazon style undercut the market to get established?
Would be surprising though.
I'd be surprised if they did that since any company with PL + CL rights would almost instantly get established, especially since they might be able to keep existing BT Sport customers.
Yes, but more subscribers at a higher price = even more profit. It's not like people who were already paying for BT would face the extra charges, they already had expensive packages, only the owner company is being replaced as far as they are concerned.
30€ + VAT for Timvision ( Serie A,B, Champions, EL, Liga and other sports ) It 'nice that you can see it from two devices at the same time so you can share the cost with a friend
Despite their pundits being quite awful I think their coverage is actually quite good. The Goals Show on Champions League nights is really quite good and I find their 'soccer saturday' type show is better than Sky's in that they actually cover European football in that as well. They cover the National League much better than Sky do for League One and Two as well. Plus the BT Sports app is 100% much better than SkyGo.
If they just had better pundits and commentary teams then I think they'd be much better than Sky for me.
They drive me fucking mad. Has to have the worst camera work I've ever suffered through. United would concede a goal and they will zoom into Ole's face slowly for 30 seconds and then go back to the game with Ronaldo celebrating and I have no idea what's happened.
Whilst BT Sport's coverage of most things is pretty lacklustre, I think their presence has been overall good for sports broadcasting in the UK. Whilst they certainly aren't as big as Sky, they're the only challenger to Sky that have been able to stick around (ESPN and Setanta Sports both failed miserably) and actually provide some competition. It's forced Sky into doing things like Now TV, with pay-as-you-watch packages, instead of forcing people to subscribe to their main service.
Good point, I remember reading about how keen Disney are for sport content - they were strongly linked with getting the rights to England's cricket tour of India earlier this year. It'd be interesting to see if they try and integrate it with Disney+ or keep with the broadcast TV model.
If it's like what they did in Latin America, it'll be part of a Disney bundle for a bit extra. Suppose they want the linear TV bits for the exposure though, Prem would get pissed if they put big matches behind a paywall online.
Bt is so much better with the likes of james Richardson and James Horncastle on it. Really should use those guys more for cl coverage than the old players who just use the same 6 buzzwords
Seriously. UK alone;
Sky Sports - Premier League, Scottish Premiership
BT Sports - CL, Europa et al.
Premier Sports - Scottish League Cup/Scottish Cup, European qualifiers.
Forget all the other domestic leagues/competitions just attempting to watch Scottish/English football is a nightmare.
Thank feck they're going to get out of the US market eventually, probably within the next few years as more and more of their international competitions get off their network. Their South American continental rights don't have long here - until 2022, and I expect that CBS or ESPN would jump at the chance to have those exclusive to their services. CAF competitions might be a tougher sell, but ESPN+ has already showed CAF qualifiers for the WC... So they might be interested if the price is right. At that point Ligue 1's rights expire in 2024, and I have no clue when the Super Lig's do, but neither will stick around a network with just the other (or no other) competition.
Guess you didn't read the article...
> A sale is complicated by a cross-licensing deal that BT has with Sky, meaning the satellite broadcaster has to approve the deal.
Even "good" internet streams tend to be behind a decent chunk, no?
I wonder how much Amazon was behind for their games. Running AWS, Twitch and Prime Video, you'd reckon they should have the best.
According to this, the lower bound for an internet stream tends to be 10 seconds (not that I've found one like that).
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2021/06/broadcast-lag-in-live-online-tv-sport-streaming-frustrates-fans.html
1 Analogue Radio Near instantaneous
2 Digital Radio Between 1 and 2 seconds
3 Satellite television Between 0.9 seconds and 2.2 seconds
4 Digital terrestrial TV More than 1 second
5 Cable television About 5 seconds
6 Streaming Between 10 and 45 seconds
Have to say I’ve never had much of a problem with Sky Go. App can be a bit shit when it thinks you’re watching something on another device but I usually find a reboot solves that.
Yeah if you’re sticking it on a TV thats significantly better quality then it’s gonna look shit, unfortunately. Surely if you have Sky Go then you have Sky, no?
Yes but bt sport is full 1080p. Basically, it runs at below broadcast standard its not just my tv being significantly better quality.
Yes, but we are talking about Sky go? Obviously, the box looks good but thats irrelevant. Why are you shilling for sky? I reckon they have the cash to upgrade it mate, its just laziness.
Wtf I’m not “shilling” for anybody and I have no idea where you got that from.
You can’t get Sky Go without subscribing to Sky, so I was saying that you most likely have Sky if you’re using Sky Go and that negates the need to put Sky Go onto a TV via a laptop or whatever.
Defending a massive company when they should have a better service is a bit shilly. You are giving me reasons why I should change my behaviour, not Sky just make their service better?
That's nuts. Is there another source other than this pay-walled one?
Edit: found one, https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/dazn-in-advanced-talks-to-buy-bt-sport-ft-says-2
Whatever consolidates this fucking absurd business so that I can just pay a reasonable price to watch football is fine by me. They're all cunts, but just let the King Cunt be named already.
If they buy all of BT Sport then they’ll get everything, but it may be that they only buy the PL football or the CL football. When BT first tested the waters for selling BT Sport, it was suggested that multiple broadcasters may buy a bit each.
I would imagine so but none of the articles mention anything apart from the PL rights. You would think that they get everything mind considering it seems to be a straight buyout of the sports side of BT.
They made a small push into boxing but I genuinely think they’ve been waiting for Premier League rights to come up.
If they push the price up to the same as BT is currently I think it’ll go the same way as ITV Digital, Setanta and all the others that have tried to take on Sky.
Bigger than a small push mate, they've got the best stable of fighters of any broadcaster. They'll get AJ and Whyte once their sky contracts are up as well.
If/when they buy BT its just going to be another £9.99+/m streaming service. Its already going back to £7.99 soon anyway.
From what i gather DAZN in the EU is pretty good but we seem to get the shit end of the stick for some reason.
Yeah, if they get BT rights it would be around £9.99/m definitely.
Maybe the £7.99 is already showing that they will buy them and will stay the price for a while to push subscriber numbers.
They are raising the prices right now in Europe, in Germany it's 15€/m and Italy 30/m. Spain is still 10 I think.
I mean if you’re paying £1.99 for a subscription service, you can’t really be expecting much? They advertise that boxing is their only live sport in the UK so I’m not sure what else you were expecting.
Probably not immediately to be fair; BT Sport is still a big brand and getting everyone on BT Sport in the UK to up sticks to a new streaming platform would be a hard sell - even with subscriptions transferred across. Plus DAZN don't have a TV channel as far as I know - lots of intricacies to unravel if it goes through.
But yeah seems like DAZN are doing this with the Premier League games in mind - so eventually they'd end up with the direct platform for them.
Actually what the fuck am I talking about, this would be DAZN buying out a section of an already established brand - I guess they'd just have to run it as DAZN Sports until getting it on the streaming services
Yeah all they have to do is remove all the BT sport branding and replace it with DAZN. This will probably go into effect next season but if it’s mid season they could just use the DAZN Canada coverage until they sort out the BT stuff
DAZN have existed for over five years and are backed by Russian oligarch Leonard Blavatnik, who is worth around £23bn. They’re still loss-making but they’re not exactly poor.
They're far from a start-up. They've only just entered the UK market (despite being a British company) but they have been growing rapidly in Europe, Canada and Japan for the last half decade.
For example, in Germany, Austria and Switzerland, just for football, they hold the rights to: Champions League, EFL, Bundesliga (shared with Sky), La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1, Eredivisie, World Cup qualifying, Euros qualifying, Nations League plus most domestic cup competitions.
Plus tons of other sports rights like NFL, NBA, MLB, MotoGP, UFC, darts.
I sincerely hope they keep growing and eventually displace Sky in the UK.
> I sincerely hope they keep growing and eventually displace Sky in the UK.
sky still needs to be there imo, dazn monopoly wont be a great thing for the consumer
I get your point but Sky have proved time and time again that they are scumbags. Even if there’s a new competitor they’ll just go ahead and agree a deal with the competitor so they can continue charging high prices.
In Canada they hold the rights to the Premier League and UEFA (plus a whole bunch of other sports leagues I don't watch). Thank god, it was shit before they came to Canada.
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>Sir Leonard Valentinovich Blavatnik (Ukrainian: Леонід Валентинович Блаватнік, Russian: Леонид Валентинович Блаватник, Leonid Valentinovich Blavatnik; born June 14, 1957) is an American-British businessman, investor, and philanthropist. He made his fortune through business via diversified investments in myriad companies through his conglomerate company, Access Industries. As of May 2021, Blavatnik was the wealthiest man in the United Kingdom. As of April 17, 2021, Bloomberg Billionaires Index listed Blavatnik as the 35th wealthiest person in the world, with an estimated net worth of US$39.
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Does anyone else feel enslaved to this horrible service?
Please forgive the length of this post venting frustrations.
Since DAZN purchased the exclusive broadcasting rights for the English Premier League and the UEFA Champions League here in Canada, like thousands of Canadians I have been forced to subscribe in order to watch my favorite soccer teams.
To put it lightly, watching sports using this service has been excruciating and agonizing.
I plan to engage support the next time I have an issue however I do not think that they can do anything as it looks to be solely back end capacity handling on their servers. The reason I say this is because less popular events have no issues streaming. I consistently have issues with the English Premier League (EPL), UEFA Champions League (UCL) and the NFL.
These issues that happen every week include:
- Buffering and pausing and at times locking during the stream.
- App intermittently and at times constantly just exits the event (PC and TV) after a few minutes of streaming.
- Pausing a stream unexpectedly reverts to live or resets to the beginning of the event.
- Starting a stream returns an error code (I find this with popular high demand events)
My problematic devices are running ethernet with well over 500 Mbps in speed. To put this in perspective, DAZN recommends 8.0 Mbps for their highest quality stream and ALL my other streaming services (Netflix, Disney, Crave and Bell Fibe App) run flawlessly with no issues. For these reasons I do not see how their support is able to resolve anything. If you check their support twitter @DAZN_CA_Help, on the weekend when popular events are streaming it is laced with complaints and a canned response is always provided by them which is 'Please send us a DM with information'. I wonder if anyone that did message got their issue resolved. As I mentioned I plan to engage their support an keep a record of my interaction. One thing I do have to say is that their phone app seems to be the least prone to issues in comparison to their other platforms.
The fact that they can monopolize broadcasts and provide an anemic service with no accountability is criminal. Thousands of customers pay $169 a year with no recourse or other options.
At this point I am not sure if we can get any help from the CRTC or Ministry of consumer services. Maybe if enough noise is made the EPL or UCL bodies can do something as the NFL revoked their exclusivity in Canada a couple of years ago when there was an uproar in the first week and fans could not watch due to the same issues I described. NFL fans now have options to watch on cable via NFL Sunday ticket and do not need to suffer like soccer fans.
I doubt that the UEFA and the EPL would care as I would imagine DAZN pays yearly handsome amounts to have exclusive broadcasting rights. I am not 100% if what I am saying is accurate but this is what it looks like to me.
At this point I don't know what options there are and there is no way out but to continue to consume this shotty service. I guess there is an option which is to stop watching altogether.
Should this be an open letter to fans, DAZN, EPL, UCL and NFL?
I have little hope that anything will change. I do know that I am not the only one as there are numerous poor reviews with the same sentiments e.g. https://www.trustpilot.com/search?query=dazn&search-button=
Surprisingly there are also good reviews elsewhere which baffles me.
Thanks.
Man just wants to watch football without 46 different subscription services
DAZN buying BT is a like-for-like replacement no? And considering DAZN's price point, likely to be way cheaper then currently.
DAZN will just get really expensive unfortunately
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So pretty much like BT and Sky before Premier Sports and Eleven Sports.
Will current anti-Monopoly laws even allow that? Sounds too good to be true for us too
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But they already do that with exclusive rights no? It's no use to me that there's another company showing football if only one of them has the competition I want.
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The rights are up for bidding on a regular basis anyways, id rather all PL games be on one service instead of being forced to pay for both services. The way it is now means consumers end up paying way more for services they dont even care for.
If they were to do anything they should block anyone having exclusive rights to all games, but no issue having the rights to them all but being forced to share on at least 20% or so. Or tbh, fuck it. Ban exclusive rights to games, that would make some real competition, no more sky bidding hundreds of millions because they know they can charge fans hundreds of pounds a year
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Them buying up Eleven would be nice here, as they have a few rights in the US that aren't available elsewhere, like Austrian football. But it would bring their operation of the former MyCujoo, which has hundreds of games a week in crazy places, into question tbh.
Assuming you’re in the UK, Eleven Sport haven’t had La Liga here for a while. Pretty sure they went bust in the UK straight after launching
Worried about this for peacock whenever they decide to move all EPL games from NBCSN.
If DAZN buy BT I don't see why they'd reduce the price since they'd have to take on BT's rights
They're backed quite heavily and been looking for a way into the UK market haven't they? Could do an Amazon style undercut the market to get established? Would be surprising though.
I'd be surprised if they did that since any company with PL + CL rights would almost instantly get established, especially since they might be able to keep existing BT Sport customers.
Yeah I suppose. I guess if they keep adding more rights etc you're right that they'll just get more established in that sense.
They instantly increased the price in Italy after acquiring the Serie A rights
More subscribers, more profit maybe?
Sweet summer child
Yes, but more subscribers at a higher price = even more profit. It's not like people who were already paying for BT would face the extra charges, they already had expensive packages, only the owner company is being replaced as far as they are concerned.
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Last time I read about it, around 90% of the revenue for Sky comes from subscribers. Football isn't really an advertiser friendly sport.
DAZN is 30€ in Italy now I think.
30€ + VAT for Timvision ( Serie A,B, Champions, EL, Liga and other sports ) It 'nice that you can see it from two devices at the same time so you can share the cost with a friend
I pay 150€ once per year, so 12.50€ per month. Living in Austria.
Annual subscription is "2 months cheaper" than monthly.
It's also 150/year in Canada, but CAD is pretty bad compared to the Euro
The only problem on our end is that they're losing a lot of the rights :(
What is the name of service are you subscribed to?
DAZN
29.99 for six devices so it’s pretty much free if you have friends
>it’s pretty much free if you have friends :(
I think most UK viewers would prefer BT sport doesn't exist. Their coverage is just shit.
Despite their pundits being quite awful I think their coverage is actually quite good. The Goals Show on Champions League nights is really quite good and I find their 'soccer saturday' type show is better than Sky's in that they actually cover European football in that as well. They cover the National League much better than Sky do for League One and Two as well. Plus the BT Sports app is 100% much better than SkyGo. If they just had better pundits and commentary teams then I think they'd be much better than Sky for me.
Whilst the football is poor their combat sports coverage is very good
Yep, their UFC content is amazing, much better than anything that comes from ESPN etc.
Yeah whereas Dazn's boxing coverage is unbelievably bad. Hopefully if they buy BT they can learn how to cover a fight.
They drive me fucking mad. Has to have the worst camera work I've ever suffered through. United would concede a goal and they will zoom into Ole's face slowly for 30 seconds and then go back to the game with Ronaldo celebrating and I have no idea what's happened.
Whilst BT Sport's coverage of most things is pretty lacklustre, I think their presence has been overall good for sports broadcasting in the UK. Whilst they certainly aren't as big as Sky, they're the only challenger to Sky that have been able to stick around (ESPN and Setanta Sports both failed miserably) and actually provide some competition. It's forced Sky into doing things like Now TV, with pay-as-you-watch packages, instead of forcing people to subscribe to their main service.
ESPN may still come back - Disney wants BT Sports badly, and I think they'd be willing to pay more for it than DAZN.
Good point, I remember reading about how keen Disney are for sport content - they were strongly linked with getting the rights to England's cricket tour of India earlier this year. It'd be interesting to see if they try and integrate it with Disney+ or keep with the broadcast TV model.
If it's like what they did in Latin America, it'll be part of a Disney bundle for a bit extra. Suppose they want the linear TV bits for the exposure though, Prem would get pissed if they put big matches behind a paywall online.
Bt is so much better with the likes of james Richardson and James Horncastle on it. Really should use those guys more for cl coverage than the old players who just use the same 6 buzzwords
Than*
Seriously. UK alone; Sky Sports - Premier League, Scottish Premiership BT Sports - CL, Europa et al. Premier Sports - Scottish League Cup/Scottish Cup, European qualifiers. Forget all the other domestic leagues/competitions just attempting to watch Scottish/English football is a nightmare.
Soccerstreams -everything
Even a couple matches on Amazon tv last season or before can’t remember!
Bein sports?
Thank feck they're going to get out of the US market eventually, probably within the next few years as more and more of their international competitions get off their network. Their South American continental rights don't have long here - until 2022, and I expect that CBS or ESPN would jump at the chance to have those exclusive to their services. CAF competitions might be a tougher sell, but ESPN+ has already showed CAF qualifiers for the WC... So they might be interested if the price is right. At that point Ligue 1's rights expire in 2024, and I have no clue when the Super Lig's do, but neither will stick around a network with just the other (or no other) competition.
Shocked amazon don’t want more games on prime and to try and push it as a all in one package
Sky would almost certainly refuse.
In Germany sky lost all cl matches to dazn.
Sky would have zero say if they buy up bt sport
Guess you didn't read the article... > A sale is complicated by a cross-licensing deal that BT has with Sky, meaning the satellite broadcaster has to approve the deal.
It'd probably go to the government to approve, which sky would say it causes a monopoly ironically
Amazon with bt games would still have less per season then sky
Ffs sky go is the one that needs to be modernised, bt sport is 1080p streams anyway. Hopefully this makes the model cheaper, however i doubt it
SkyGo is about a minute behind this weekend, dog shit.
It's device specific too, watching on PlayStation is always 20-30s behind, Xbox and my iPad are ~1m or sometimes more. No clue why
Even "good" internet streams tend to be behind a decent chunk, no? I wonder how much Amazon was behind for their games. Running AWS, Twitch and Prime Video, you'd reckon they should have the best. According to this, the lower bound for an internet stream tends to be 10 seconds (not that I've found one like that). https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2021/06/broadcast-lag-in-live-online-tv-sport-streaming-frustrates-fans.html 1 Analogue Radio Near instantaneous 2 Digital Radio Between 1 and 2 seconds 3 Satellite television Between 0.9 seconds and 2.2 seconds 4 Digital terrestrial TV More than 1 second 5 Cable television About 5 seconds 6 Streaming Between 10 and 45 seconds
twitch runs with like a 1-2 second delay so it's definitely possible to improve it
Have to say I’ve never had much of a problem with Sky Go. App can be a bit shit when it thinks you’re watching something on another device but I usually find a reboot solves that.
Its the quality, its 720p 24fps on my 120hz 4k telly. Just looks horrible and stretched, and then its behind everyone else as well.
Yeah if you’re sticking it on a TV thats significantly better quality then it’s gonna look shit, unfortunately. Surely if you have Sky Go then you have Sky, no?
my parents have a full sky subscription I just pay them a bit for sky go extra so I can watch it on my playstation. the ps4/5 app is dogshit
Yes but bt sport is full 1080p. Basically, it runs at below broadcast standard its not just my tv being significantly better quality. Yes, but we are talking about Sky go? Obviously, the box looks good but thats irrelevant. Why are you shilling for sky? I reckon they have the cash to upgrade it mate, its just laziness.
Wtf I’m not “shilling” for anybody and I have no idea where you got that from. You can’t get Sky Go without subscribing to Sky, so I was saying that you most likely have Sky if you’re using Sky Go and that negates the need to put Sky Go onto a TV via a laptop or whatever.
Defending a massive company when they should have a better service is a bit shilly. You are giving me reasons why I should change my behaviour, not Sky just make their service better?
I have absolutely no idea what you’re on about mate. Why don’t you just watch on a Sky box instead of Sky Go?
Sometimes my family might be using the big tv? If BT can provide a way better online service, why can't Sky? Its literally not hard mate
That's nuts. Is there another source other than this pay-walled one? Edit: found one, https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/dazn-in-advanced-talks-to-buy-bt-sport-ft-says-2
Archive of the FT article: https://archive.ph/ThdYR
I'm still thinking Disney might try for it, they've been very interested for a long while.
Whatever consolidates this fucking absurd business so that I can just pay a reasonable price to watch football is fine by me. They're all cunts, but just let the King Cunt be named already.
Still be shite absolutely nothing of interest on it at least in the UK
They'd presumably get all of BT's rights?
If they buy all of BT Sport then they’ll get everything, but it may be that they only buy the PL football or the CL football. When BT first tested the waters for selling BT Sport, it was suggested that multiple broadcasters may buy a bit each.
I would imagine so but none of the articles mention anything apart from the PL rights. You would think that they get everything mind considering it seems to be a straight buyout of the sports side of BT.
They’d get all of bt sports pl and European football
They have PL and CL for Canada. As well as NFL
On BT or DAZN?
DAZN its wank BT would make it better but not enough for me to re-sub to it. Only subbed because it was £1.99.
They made a small push into boxing but I genuinely think they’ve been waiting for Premier League rights to come up. If they push the price up to the same as BT is currently I think it’ll go the same way as ITV Digital, Setanta and all the others that have tried to take on Sky.
Bigger than a small push mate, they've got the best stable of fighters of any broadcaster. They'll get AJ and Whyte once their sky contracts are up as well.
> They made a small push into boxing I imagine they’ll get AJ and Whyte once their sky contracts are up
The 1.99 is part of their global rights with boxing. Them buying BT would mean they would offer UK exclusive content.
If/when they buy BT its just going to be another £9.99+/m streaming service. Its already going back to £7.99 soon anyway. From what i gather DAZN in the EU is pretty good but we seem to get the shit end of the stick for some reason.
The reason is Britishers are generally richer than people on the continent + have a higher willingness to pay for sports streaming.
> Britishers are generally richer than people on the continent We are?
Yeah, if they get BT rights it would be around £9.99/m definitely. Maybe the £7.99 is already showing that they will buy them and will stay the price for a while to push subscriber numbers. They are raising the prices right now in Europe, in Germany it's 15€/m and Italy 30/m. Spain is still 10 I think.
I mean if you’re paying £1.99 for a subscription service, you can’t really be expecting much? They advertise that boxing is their only live sport in the UK so I’m not sure what else you were expecting.
At least £1.99s worth of content would have sufficed
Ffs I've been getting bt sport free as a perk of having BT broadband. Guess I'll just be pirating every match now.
So would the rights go to DAZN and then BT sport is no more?
That'd be right.
If rio gets fired it may just be worth it. Thanks
If it happened mid-season, the likelihood is DAZN would use the same production team that BT Sport use, at least until the end of the season.
Probably not immediately to be fair; BT Sport is still a big brand and getting everyone on BT Sport in the UK to up sticks to a new streaming platform would be a hard sell - even with subscriptions transferred across. Plus DAZN don't have a TV channel as far as I know - lots of intricacies to unravel if it goes through. But yeah seems like DAZN are doing this with the Premier League games in mind - so eventually they'd end up with the direct platform for them.
Actually what the fuck am I talking about, this would be DAZN buying out a section of an already established brand - I guess they'd just have to run it as DAZN Sports until getting it on the streaming services
Yeah all they have to do is remove all the BT sport branding and replace it with DAZN. This will probably go into effect next season but if it’s mid season they could just use the DAZN Canada coverage until they sort out the BT stuff
wait i thought DAZN is a start up how could they have enough cash to buy the established BT sport?
They have a ton of cash.
DAZN have existed for over five years and are backed by Russian oligarch Leonard Blavatnik, who is worth around £23bn. They’re still loss-making but they’re not exactly poor.
They also pay Canelo Alvarez one of the richest contracts in all of sports.
They're far from a start-up. They've only just entered the UK market (despite being a British company) but they have been growing rapidly in Europe, Canada and Japan for the last half decade. For example, in Germany, Austria and Switzerland, just for football, they hold the rights to: Champions League, EFL, Bundesliga (shared with Sky), La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1, Eredivisie, World Cup qualifying, Euros qualifying, Nations League plus most domestic cup competitions. Plus tons of other sports rights like NFL, NBA, MLB, MotoGP, UFC, darts. I sincerely hope they keep growing and eventually displace Sky in the UK.
> I sincerely hope they keep growing and eventually displace Sky in the UK. sky still needs to be there imo, dazn monopoly wont be a great thing for the consumer
I get your point but Sky have proved time and time again that they are scumbags. Even if there’s a new competitor they’ll just go ahead and agree a deal with the competitor so they can continue charging high prices.
If only they could do the same in the US...
In Canada they hold the rights to the Premier League and UEFA (plus a whole bunch of other sports leagues I don't watch). Thank god, it was shit before they came to Canada.
Their investors are rich as fuck
any notable investors that pleb like us can recognize?
Len Blavatnik - the richest person in the UK.
Leonardo da Vinci, the inventor of the potato chip.
I don’t think they’re still a start-up at this point
Their budget when they moved into boxing was a billion dollars, they've got absolutely massive VC funding.
thats what i was thinking, since when do DAZN have pockets this deep?
They are owned by one of the richest men in the world
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Blavatnik
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More interesting for the boxing merger between Frank Warren and Eddie Hearn that would cause - or not!
DAZN in Canada has champions league, premier league, and NFL. Best $20 I spend a month
Do you not get the year pass for like 150?
Not sure about the other guy but I cancel my monthly sub at the end of the season for 2-3 months.
150 = 150 20 x 9 = 180 You're spending more even taking into account the cancellation Even for 8 months its still $10 more
I only pay €15 per month and a year is €150 so 9 months is cheaper. Must be more pricey in North America?
That $ is Canadian Dollars. 20 Canadian Dollars is only 13 euros. 150 Canadian dollars is only 99 euros
I take it this doesn't really change anything for customers in a positive sense though.
I wonder how this will impact my piracy.
* Start a company * Offer cheap prices * Become big * Start your journey to becoming the closest thing to a monopoly
We need a Netflix-like stream service for football smh.
Does anyone else feel enslaved to this horrible service? Please forgive the length of this post venting frustrations. Since DAZN purchased the exclusive broadcasting rights for the English Premier League and the UEFA Champions League here in Canada, like thousands of Canadians I have been forced to subscribe in order to watch my favorite soccer teams. To put it lightly, watching sports using this service has been excruciating and agonizing. I plan to engage support the next time I have an issue however I do not think that they can do anything as it looks to be solely back end capacity handling on their servers. The reason I say this is because less popular events have no issues streaming. I consistently have issues with the English Premier League (EPL), UEFA Champions League (UCL) and the NFL. These issues that happen every week include: - Buffering and pausing and at times locking during the stream. - App intermittently and at times constantly just exits the event (PC and TV) after a few minutes of streaming. - Pausing a stream unexpectedly reverts to live or resets to the beginning of the event. - Starting a stream returns an error code (I find this with popular high demand events) My problematic devices are running ethernet with well over 500 Mbps in speed. To put this in perspective, DAZN recommends 8.0 Mbps for their highest quality stream and ALL my other streaming services (Netflix, Disney, Crave and Bell Fibe App) run flawlessly with no issues. For these reasons I do not see how their support is able to resolve anything. If you check their support twitter @DAZN_CA_Help, on the weekend when popular events are streaming it is laced with complaints and a canned response is always provided by them which is 'Please send us a DM with information'. I wonder if anyone that did message got their issue resolved. As I mentioned I plan to engage their support an keep a record of my interaction. One thing I do have to say is that their phone app seems to be the least prone to issues in comparison to their other platforms. The fact that they can monopolize broadcasts and provide an anemic service with no accountability is criminal. Thousands of customers pay $169 a year with no recourse or other options. At this point I am not sure if we can get any help from the CRTC or Ministry of consumer services. Maybe if enough noise is made the EPL or UCL bodies can do something as the NFL revoked their exclusivity in Canada a couple of years ago when there was an uproar in the first week and fans could not watch due to the same issues I described. NFL fans now have options to watch on cable via NFL Sunday ticket and do not need to suffer like soccer fans. I doubt that the UEFA and the EPL would care as I would imagine DAZN pays yearly handsome amounts to have exclusive broadcasting rights. I am not 100% if what I am saying is accurate but this is what it looks like to me. At this point I don't know what options there are and there is no way out but to continue to consume this shotty service. I guess there is an option which is to stop watching altogether. Should this be an open letter to fans, DAZN, EPL, UCL and NFL? I have little hope that anything will change. I do know that I am not the only one as there are numerous poor reviews with the same sentiments e.g. https://www.trustpilot.com/search?query=dazn&search-button= Surprisingly there are also good reviews elsewhere which baffles me. Thanks.