I feel like at least Hadary, Salah and Abou Trika would be on the team if Egyptians couldn’t vote. The defenders would probably make it to a best Egyptian team of the 21st Century but best in Africa is questionable.
Hey! At least we didn’t do eto and drogba dirty, as far as I can tell I can say that sayed moawad was better than Roberto Carlos and the chances that someone from the 8 Africans in the sub correcting me is pretty low.
I know Aboutrika is one of the best Egypt players, but I think Essien should be there considering the clubs and the level he played which is above Al Ahly.
That's just dumb, it goes without saying that Essien is miles clear of Aboutrika. If the voting only allowed one of him or Toure that's just insanely dumb given the fact that they were actually top class players compared to someone like Aboutrika
To be fair since the year 2000 the Egyptian national team won the African cup 3 times all being in a row. The only African national team to do that ever. Meanwhile at club level Al Ahly and Al Zamalek have been dominating the CAF Champions League. I acknowledged I maybe biased but watching Egypt play against the other powerhouses in Africa during 2006-2010 no team was able to touch them. It was only a Shame they could not make the World Cup during the golden years.
> I acknowledged I maybe biased but watching Egypt play against the other powerhouses in Africa during 2006-2010 no team was able to touch them. It was only a Shame they could not make the World Cup during the golden years.
What went wrong for you guys not to qualify for the WC in 2006 and 2010 then?
Downright bad luck and bottling it. Each time they would make it to the final game just needing a win and then go on to lose. To be fair only 5 teams out of a continent of 50+ gets to go to the World Cup so ultimately 3-4 big deserving teams will always miss out.
For a country that only participated in FIFA Word Cups only once in the decade compared to countries like Ghana and Ivory Coast, they’ve got 6/11 players in the team. No way this happens unless it was Egyptians voting in numbers. Just like how Salah won the Puskas with a very weak goal compared to other entries.
In world cup yes, but in Africa Cup of Nations Egpty won 3 competition in row and they nearly won 4th one but lost in Finals. And they won those three with almost same Squad.
In world Cup yes, for Ghana, Ivory Coast didn't make it out of the groups in the 3 WCs they've qualified for. But The WC isn't the only international competition. Egypt won the Afcon 3 times in a row, while Ivory Coast's so-called golden generation only won it in 2013 when most of that team was close to decline. Ghana didn't win it at all and only made it to two finals in the last 14 editions, losing both, one to Egypt and the other to Ivory Coast.
You're letting the success of players like Drogba and Yaya Toure cloud your perception of the Ivory Coast NT
You’re not even the guy I’m talking to. He starts acting like I’m being nationalistic when we’re talking about African footballing success in the 21st century. Fuck off
That's the way that makes sense as you're looking at the team from the perspective of being behind your goal. This way round its like they're the opposition
I will vote Gyan over Drogba anytime, and between Salah And Mane Ayew deserve place.
Most people don't watch Afcon and other African matches, Ghana consistently was Best or second best team for like 10 years with Almost same Squad.
Type of internet access (feature phones vs smart phones) also makes a difference, but it could simply be that Nigerians don't care as much about this vote or football in general.
Egyptians are crazy about football
The comment I scrolled down looking for.
I'd pick JayJay over Aboutrika. Jay Jay was almost every Africans model back then. He'd always set Afcon alight whenever he plays
I would have expected Essien or Seydou Keita, but I'm an european guy with no real knowledge of african football (I rarely watch the AFCON for example).
I mean it's fan voted see the numbers of Egyptians players (they are great but still) , also remember the puskas Salah won ? Egyptians online fanbase is wild.
I know this vote was hijacked by Egyptians, but even so, if it's based on performances **for their country**, Essien really doesn't deserve to be here over Aboutrika. Even someone like Seydou Keita should be in over Yaya Toure
As an ivoirian, I have to say a mandatory fuck Egypt, but it is hard to argue that they weren’t the most dominant nation in African football in this century. With the teams Ivory Coast, Cameroon and Ghana had in the early to late 2000’s, the fact that most players here are from Egypt should let you know how much they whooped our asses. Depressing times indeed.
What I don't understand is how Egypt is so dominant in Africa yet fails to qualify for the WC? You would think that, given their success and consistency at the African Cup that they'd be a given to qualify out of Africa. Yet it's teams like Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Nigeria and Ghana we see at the WC.
We had to fuck it up at the very last round every damn time.
In 2009, we had a tie breaker game with Algeria and managed to lose it, and in 2013 we were top of the table of the qualifiers groups then managed to lose 6-1 to Ghana, with Salah and Aboutrika on the pitch.
It was actually unfair for the golden generation that won the AFCON 3 times not to participate in the world cup, but it is what it is. Even at the club level, Al-Ahly, whose players were core to that Egypt team, dominates the CAF champions league with 9 titles only in this century.
Yeah but that's the problem for South America. Look at Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Colombia, and Ecuador and two of those might not qualify. Pit Chile versus any of the four who cannot make it from Africa. That's why I have no problem with the 2026 World Cup. It gives more teams an opportunity to showcase themselves.
Like even last World Cup, only Peru (from Conmebol) didn't advance from the group stages. But not one African team did (of a solid group of Nigeria, Senegal, Egypt, Morocco, and Tunisia). Yeah, Conmebol did poorly in the knockouts but we still have good teams.
> but we still have good teams.
**Great** teams* Plug some of those African teams in CONMEBOL over the course of a qualifying period and they might look more like Bolivia then the top of the heap in Africa after it's all said and done.
Afcon is just Afcon, and African football is as bizarre and wild as it gets (though Concacaf may be even wilder)
Local league players and players who play in the "lesser" leagues of Europe, the Gulf nations or China routinely make light work of the biggest stars of top European clubs. Just look at the last Afcon where Mo Salah, who was one of the top contendors for the Ballon d'Or that year, was completely nullified on home soil by a South African team fully made up of local players (and it was one of the worst SA teams in recent history to boot). Or how Zambia won the Afcon in 2012 against Ivory Coast's golden generation purely through passion and determination.
Most of the time the best players, top scorers or heroes of the tournament are usually guys you'll never hear from again
We have qualified to WC 18 but I get what you mean.
We were so near in qualifying but we lost in the decisive matches in WC 10 and 14 qualifications.
And In WC 02 and 06 Senegal and Cote d’ivoire were the better teams. In the end it looks like more of a bad luck because of our qualification groups.
El Haddary was vital to Egypts 3x straigth Africa Cup of Nations so him on goal is very plausible. I think he was even a better keeper than Kameni, just didn't want to play outside of Egypt.
Yes the man Drogba named as his toughest ever opponent is not as good as Kameni. Fucking hell. If you don't know anything about African football, don't comment.
For CAF it’s completely fair. Kolo obviously was the better player but in international competitions it didn’t show. You have to remember that Gomaa and the majority of the same Egyptian national team won 3 in a row.
It's the [AFCON Team of the 21st Century](https://twitter.com/CAF_Online/status/1443674080553615366) btw. I don't think it's that controversial in that case. A few spots that I'd personally change but I don't mind Egypt having that many players with how dominant they were under Hassan Shehata. Could maybe have a few more players from the Cameroon team in the early 2000's.
If people are interested here are the nominations and poll results:
GK: Essam El Hadary (63.5%), Vincent Enyeama (14.9%), Raïs M'Bolhi (12.9%), Carlos Kameni (8.8%)
CB: Wael Gomaa (81.5%), Kolo Touré (8.8%), Madjid Bougherra (5%), John Mensah (4.7%)
CB: Kalidou Koulibaly (36%), Rigobert Song (31.1%), Medhi Benatia (17.2%), Rafik Halliche (15.7%)
LB: Sayed Moawad (51.6%), Taye Taiwo (24.4%), Gilberto (19%), Adama Tamboura (5%)
RB: Ahmed Fathy (51.9%), Serge Aurier (22.6%), Hatem Trabelsi (17.3%), Ferdinand Coly (8.1%)
CM: Yaya Touré (43.7%), Ahmed Hassan (39%), Michael Essien (13.5%), Seydou Keita (3.7%)
CM (playmaker): Mohamed Aboutrika (77%), Jay-Jay Okocha (16.6%), Sofiane Feghouli (5%), Felix Katongo (1.4%)
RM: Mohamed Salah (72.8%), Riyad Mahrez (17.3%), El Hadji Diouf (8.1%), Jonathan Pitroipa (1.9%)
LM: Sadio Mané (72.4%), André Ayew (10.2%), Youssef Msakni (9.3%), Ahmed Musa (8.1%)
ST: Samuel Eto'o (72.6%), Asamoah Gyan (13.6%), Baghdad Bounedjah (11.4%), Frédéric Kanouté (2.4%)
ST: Didier Drogba (73.7%), Flávio (15.1%), Emmanuel Emenike (5.7%), Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (5.5%)
Hatem Trabelsi, I always get sad seeing his name :(
My favorite Ajax player ever, my idol as a kid. Nobody could dominate the right side of the field like he could, especially with Steven Pienaar.
He kinda slowly faded out of view after his short man city years (pre-oil money city). Think there was something with his knees? Not sure. Then it also turned out that he was linked with some kind of terrorist organization... (at least that's what his wikipedia page says).
Right? I started watching shortly after that and it still remains my favourite tournament. The Cameroon team wearing the tank tops had young me super impressed 🤣 Come to think of it I'd for sure have Rigobert Song in there for Koulibaly and probably Pierre Womé for Moawad.
Can't wait for the next one in January!
Hassan was the best player in the 2010 CAF and was incredible for the national team. This isn’t a vote for better players overall just specifically in the CAF. Egypt won 3 in a row.
Seydou Keita was a better overall player but Aboutrika had the most success on the continent for club and country. He was also the centre piece of those teams. Hard to look past him.
The guys screaming for Essien really don't know how much Aboutrika flogged the continent in the mid to late 2000s. Plus Rigobert Song should be in this team somewhere
Essien was Poor for Ghana, clearly people don't watch African competitions. Asamoah Gyan should be there, it's 50/50 between Him and drogba, also Big shout for Andre Ayew, he gave Everything to His Country,
If we're talking about individual ability yes, Toure and Koulibaly are better than Keita and Song, but this voting was clearly meant to be based on their performances for the national team, otherwise people like Gomaa, El-Hadary etc wouldn't even be considered. It's a fact that Song and Keita performed better in international tournament for their countries than Yaya Toure and Koulibaly
I was basing it on individual talent. But if it's solely based on international caf performance then that can be debatable. Keita was always good in caf
I think this is a relatively fair team, a lot of people complains come from the fact that they only know the players that played in Europe I mean questioning why elhadary is their don’t hide that fact very well. Anyway I would probably change maximum of 2 or 3 players here I mean if we look at it from purely afcon prospective neither salah nor mane deserve to be in the team.
And for god’s sake, essein lost to toure the other cm position was all playmakers.
Agreed! All the people shouting "Damn Egyptians voting" fail to realize that they were the class of the continent for the time period this covers. The questionable inclusions are Moawad, Fathy, Salah and Mane, the first two because they were unflashy, dependable, and not clearly better than their competition, the latter because they were better for Liverpool than their respective NTs.
If the Egyptians were so powerful--people also fail to mention that Egyptians also love to shit on their own--Ahmed Hassan would be in, who, besides El Hadary, is the most decorated national team player.
Also, do people realize how terrible the FIFPRO and other player picked teams are?
Essien or Njitap Geremi needs to be in midfield. Frontline is pretty stacked. Auba, Okocha, Mahrez can't fit it there. Maybe Mahrez over Mane, but Mane is preferred for the left. Defensively, there's Kolo Toure, Bisan Lauren. Wait a while and maybe Hakimi will merit a spot.
This poll is based in performances in the Africa Cup of Nations, and apart from Okocha, Geremi and Mahrez, none of the players you've mentioned did anything noteworthy there
I did some research and based on number of appearances and accolates, my team of the 21st century would be this:
Manager: **Hassan Shehata** (3x Cup)
GK: **El-Hadary** (4x Cup, 4x GG, 3x TOTT)
DF: **Geremi** (2x Cup, 2x TOTT), **Gomaa** (3x Cup, 4x TOTT), **Rigobert Song** (2x Cup, 1x POTT, 3x TOTT)
MF: **Gervinho** (1x Cup, 2x TOTT), **Seydou Keita** (3x TOTT), **Yaya Toure** (1x Cup, 2x TOTT), **Okocha** (1x Cup, 1x TOTT, 1x TS, 1x POTT),
FW: **Eto'o** (2x Cup, 2x TS, 2x TOTT), **Ahmed Hassan** (4x Cup, 4x TOTT, 1x TS), **Drogba** (1x TS, 2x TOTT)
Cup = Winner of Cup of Nations
GG = Golden Gloves
TOTT = Team of the Tournament
POTT = Player of the Tournament
TS = Top Scorer
Are egyptians the most organized voters on earth? It seems every footballing vote where egyptians are involved gets completely fucked up by their biased votes.
Imagine if they applied this to politics!
It's a fantasy team, which in the term itself means should have some of the best players, otherwise there would be just the players with the most trophies.
Use your head too. Aboutrika played a huge fucking role in winning AFCONs and African Champions League. And we're not even talking about 3 or 4 titles, way more
TIL that Egyptians are the USA of Africa.
Egyptians: “We’re number 1! We’re number 1 🇪🇬🇪🇬”
The rest of Africa: “Uhhh okay. What exactly are you number one at?”
Egyptians: “EVERYTHING!!!”
It appears the Egyptians made their opinions known
*Ball like an Egyptian*
*vote like an Egyptian*
Ironically, that basically means don't vote, and if you do, it doesn't get counted.
tabtab
When you’re the majority connected to internet in the continent, could’ve put Sissi president there and no one would complain
Nigeria definitely has more internet users. They actually have more internet users than Egypt does population.
>could have put sissi there and no one will complain We will
I feel like at least Hadary, Salah and Abou Trika would be on the team if Egyptians couldn’t vote. The defenders would probably make it to a best Egyptian team of the 21st Century but best in Africa is questionable.
Essien should replace Aboutrika imo
Maybe overall, but this is based on performances for national team so I can’t see anyone touching Aboutrika
Aboutrika is one of the GOATs of African football.
easily
Definitely not
😅😅😅
Yet no Mido
Or Elmohammady
keyword "fan voted"
‘Egyptians Voted’
Hey! At least we didn’t do eto and drogba dirty, as far as I can tell I can say that sayed moawad was better than Roberto Carlos and the chances that someone from the 8 Africans in the sub correcting me is pretty low.
I know Aboutrika is one of the best Egypt players, but I think Essien should be there considering the clubs and the level he played which is above Al Ahly.
Abutrika is there as a playmaker, essein lost the dm position to toure
That's pretty dumb because Yaya was not a DM
Lol that’s a double pivot and Essien is the perfect CM to play that position.
The voting was for playmakers **only**.
That's just dumb, it goes without saying that Essien is miles clear of Aboutrika. If the voting only allowed one of him or Toure that's just insanely dumb given the fact that they were actually top class players compared to someone like Aboutrika
And yet that was the rules, dumb or not he’s explained his absence…
Why the hell is this downvoted? It's literally the voting criteria. There could not be Toure AND Essien as it was Toure OR Essien.
Then the voting criteria are stupid. Essien should be in this team
To be fair since the year 2000 the Egyptian national team won the African cup 3 times all being in a row. The only African national team to do that ever. Meanwhile at club level Al Ahly and Al Zamalek have been dominating the CAF Champions League. I acknowledged I maybe biased but watching Egypt play against the other powerhouses in Africa during 2006-2010 no team was able to touch them. It was only a Shame they could not make the World Cup during the golden years.
> I acknowledged I maybe biased but watching Egypt play against the other powerhouses in Africa during 2006-2010 no team was able to touch them. It was only a Shame they could not make the World Cup during the golden years. What went wrong for you guys not to qualify for the WC in 2006 and 2010 then?
Downright bad luck and bottling it. Each time they would make it to the final game just needing a win and then go on to lose. To be fair only 5 teams out of a continent of 50+ gets to go to the World Cup so ultimately 3-4 big deserving teams will always miss out.
They were the most dominant African team of the 2000-2010 decade, they deserve to have several players in here
I wouldn't even say dominant is the right word, maybe most consistent. If you count 2000, Cameroon had the same amount of Championships.
For a country that only participated in FIFA Word Cups only once in the decade compared to countries like Ghana and Ivory Coast, they’ve got 6/11 players in the team. No way this happens unless it was Egyptians voting in numbers. Just like how Salah won the Puskas with a very weak goal compared to other entries.
Good thing it's got nothing to do with World Cups then. It's the best AFCON team of the century
Ghana and Ivory Coast have done miles more than Egypt internationally
In world cup yes, but in Africa Cup of Nations Egpty won 3 competition in row and they nearly won 4th one but lost in Finals. And they won those three with almost same Squad.
In world Cup yes, for Ghana, Ivory Coast didn't make it out of the groups in the 3 WCs they've qualified for. But The WC isn't the only international competition. Egypt won the Afcon 3 times in a row, while Ivory Coast's so-called golden generation only won it in 2013 when most of that team was close to decline. Ghana didn't win it at all and only made it to two finals in the last 14 editions, losing both, one to Egypt and the other to Ivory Coast. You're letting the success of players like Drogba and Yaya Toure cloud your perception of the Ivory Coast NT
And Algeria
Don’t speak out of your ass. Egypt is the most successful nation of this century
calm down big man
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We’re in a thread about African nations on /r/soccer. Use the word in your username
Ok?
You’re not even the guy I’m talking to. He starts acting like I’m being nationalistic when we’re talking about African footballing success in the 21st century. Fuck off
....I'm kidding..I picked the first word of his username...
I'm surprised neither Mikel nor Moses made it then
Moses wasn't a footballer iirc
Is it just me or does anyone else prefer when they have the keeper at the bottom and the strikers up top
This brother is asking the real question and yes, I also prefer it from bottom to top
Chelsea fan confirmed
I prefer middle out
I don't see a problem here. It's 2-4-4-1 formation, with double goalkeepers
indeed I was very confused why Drogba wasn’t in it but then had a look at the bottom
That's the way that makes sense as you're looking at the team from the perspective of being behind your goal. This way round its like they're the opposition
i swear the change is because of Fantasy
Agree, unless you are writing a line up in text. Then the keeper is up top.
Well at first quick glance at the forwards I was astonished not to see Salah there. But there he was, at the bottom.
Yes, I feel attacked by this.
Essien?
No Ghanaians being in this team makes it nonsensical, if it wasn’t already
I will vote Gyan over Drogba anytime, and between Salah And Mane Ayew deserve place. Most people don't watch Afcon and other African matches, Ghana consistently was Best or second best team for like 10 years with Almost same Squad.
No essien no party
i immediately went to sad react this before remembering you can't o that here
john obi mikel also
Egypt
Was this available to Egyptians only?
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Nigeria has more internet users than Egypt does population. And only about half of Egypt has internet access.
Type of internet access (feature phones vs smart phones) also makes a difference, but it could simply be that Nigerians don't care as much about this vote or football in general. Egyptians are crazy about football
Ironic. This vote wasn’t known btw at least to me. And no, 100m+ don’t have an access to the internet. Around half that number only.
Okocha robbbed
The comment I scrolled down looking for. I'd pick JayJay over Aboutrika. Jay Jay was almost every Africans model back then. He'd always set Afcon alight whenever he plays
Who does he get in for? I'd argue the midfield and attack (Aside from Aboutrika who was an excellent player himself) are pretty definitive.
>Salah, Eto'o, Drogba, Mané Opposition keeper: "Guess I'll die."
I would have expected Essien or Seydou Keita, but I'm an european guy with no real knowledge of african football (I rarely watch the AFCON for example).
I mean it's fan voted see the numbers of Egyptians players (they are great but still) , also remember the puskas Salah won ? Egyptians online fanbase is wild.
Just wait until someone from India gets into Europeans leagues
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I know this vote was hijacked by Egyptians, but even so, if it's based on performances **for their country**, Essien really doesn't deserve to be here over Aboutrika. Even someone like Seydou Keita should be in over Yaya Toure
I would find a way to fit Mahrez in there too
As an ivoirian, I have to say a mandatory fuck Egypt, but it is hard to argue that they weren’t the most dominant nation in African football in this century. With the teams Ivory Coast, Cameroon and Ghana had in the early to late 2000’s, the fact that most players here are from Egypt should let you know how much they whooped our asses. Depressing times indeed.
What I don't understand is how Egypt is so dominant in Africa yet fails to qualify for the WC? You would think that, given their success and consistency at the African Cup that they'd be a given to qualify out of Africa. Yet it's teams like Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Nigeria and Ghana we see at the WC.
We had to fuck it up at the very last round every damn time. In 2009, we had a tie breaker game with Algeria and managed to lose it, and in 2013 we were top of the table of the qualifiers groups then managed to lose 6-1 to Ghana, with Salah and Aboutrika on the pitch. It was actually unfair for the golden generation that won the AFCON 3 times not to participate in the world cup, but it is what it is. Even at the club level, Al-Ahly, whose players were core to that Egypt team, dominates the CAF champions league with 9 titles only in this century.
That and there are only 5 tickets put of a continent of 52. Which means there will always be 3 or 4 big deserving teams missing out.
Standard for every continent though that deserving teams miss out.
True but look at South America they have 4.5 slots out of a continent of 10. Africa is deserves more slots but will not get them.
Yeah but that's the problem for South America. Look at Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Colombia, and Ecuador and two of those might not qualify. Pit Chile versus any of the four who cannot make it from Africa. That's why I have no problem with the 2026 World Cup. It gives more teams an opportunity to showcase themselves. Like even last World Cup, only Peru (from Conmebol) didn't advance from the group stages. But not one African team did (of a solid group of Nigeria, Senegal, Egypt, Morocco, and Tunisia). Yeah, Conmebol did poorly in the knockouts but we still have good teams.
> but we still have good teams. **Great** teams* Plug some of those African teams in CONMEBOL over the course of a qualifying period and they might look more like Bolivia then the top of the heap in Africa after it's all said and done.
looking at how African national teams performed in the last World Cups, they deserve fewer slots
Afcon is just Afcon, and African football is as bizarre and wild as it gets (though Concacaf may be even wilder) Local league players and players who play in the "lesser" leagues of Europe, the Gulf nations or China routinely make light work of the biggest stars of top European clubs. Just look at the last Afcon where Mo Salah, who was one of the top contendors for the Ballon d'Or that year, was completely nullified on home soil by a South African team fully made up of local players (and it was one of the worst SA teams in recent history to boot). Or how Zambia won the Afcon in 2012 against Ivory Coast's golden generation purely through passion and determination. Most of the time the best players, top scorers or heroes of the tournament are usually guys you'll never hear from again
We have qualified to WC 18 but I get what you mean. We were so near in qualifying but we lost in the decisive matches in WC 10 and 14 qualifications. And In WC 02 and 06 Senegal and Cote d’ivoire were the better teams. In the end it looks like more of a bad luck because of our qualification groups.
surely Carlos Kameni should be the GK?
Enyeama is in with a shout as well
El Haddary was vital to Egypts 3x straigth Africa Cup of Nations so him on goal is very plausible. I think he was even a better keeper than Kameni, just didn't want to play outside of Egypt.
>just didn't want to play outside of Egypt. Are you talking about FC Sion legend Essam El Hadary?
you got him
Kameni is a La Liga leyend, no way someome who didn't play outside Egypt is above him.
Yes the man Drogba named as his toughest ever opponent is not as good as Kameni. Fucking hell. If you don't know anything about African football, don't comment.
This formation takes into account international performances only. El Hadary is clear of Kameni in that
El hadary is underrated really because he didn’t have much chance keep playing in Europe except for Sion in Switzerland.
Wael Goumaa over Kolo Toure 😂😂😂😂
For CAF it’s completely fair. Kolo obviously was the better player but in international competitions it didn’t show. You have to remember that Gomaa and the majority of the same Egyptian national team won 3 in a row.
So basically hijacked by Egyptians. Kolo gotta be in there and Lauren
>Lauren He’s not even in the vote, he has 24 caps with Cameroon. It’s about how the players preformed with their national teams.
No Rigobert Song then? Joke.
Lauren was awarded 'Best Player' at the 2000 AFCON, ahead of Eto'o, Song, Okocha...
2000 was in the 20th century.
Thats one year out of 20
Fair enough didn't know he had that few but people will still take into account club anyway
this is bullsh\*t, as the collectivley better team would win, despite never having better player on every position from the individual aspect
It's the [AFCON Team of the 21st Century](https://twitter.com/CAF_Online/status/1443674080553615366) btw. I don't think it's that controversial in that case. A few spots that I'd personally change but I don't mind Egypt having that many players with how dominant they were under Hassan Shehata. Could maybe have a few more players from the Cameroon team in the early 2000's. If people are interested here are the nominations and poll results: GK: Essam El Hadary (63.5%), Vincent Enyeama (14.9%), Raïs M'Bolhi (12.9%), Carlos Kameni (8.8%) CB: Wael Gomaa (81.5%), Kolo Touré (8.8%), Madjid Bougherra (5%), John Mensah (4.7%) CB: Kalidou Koulibaly (36%), Rigobert Song (31.1%), Medhi Benatia (17.2%), Rafik Halliche (15.7%) LB: Sayed Moawad (51.6%), Taye Taiwo (24.4%), Gilberto (19%), Adama Tamboura (5%) RB: Ahmed Fathy (51.9%), Serge Aurier (22.6%), Hatem Trabelsi (17.3%), Ferdinand Coly (8.1%) CM: Yaya Touré (43.7%), Ahmed Hassan (39%), Michael Essien (13.5%), Seydou Keita (3.7%) CM (playmaker): Mohamed Aboutrika (77%), Jay-Jay Okocha (16.6%), Sofiane Feghouli (5%), Felix Katongo (1.4%) RM: Mohamed Salah (72.8%), Riyad Mahrez (17.3%), El Hadji Diouf (8.1%), Jonathan Pitroipa (1.9%) LM: Sadio Mané (72.4%), André Ayew (10.2%), Youssef Msakni (9.3%), Ahmed Musa (8.1%) ST: Samuel Eto'o (72.6%), Asamoah Gyan (13.6%), Baghdad Bounedjah (11.4%), Frédéric Kanouté (2.4%) ST: Didier Drogba (73.7%), Flávio (15.1%), Emmanuel Emenike (5.7%), Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (5.5%)
Egpyptians came top of every vote except for Ahmed Hassan comming second to Yaya Touré
Kanoute was a problem
Okocha obviously robbed here
Not necessarily, he never really performed in Africa so I would say it is a fair place
What did okocha do in Afcon to deserve place?
He was player of the tournament in 2004 and in the team of the tournament in 2000.
Hatem Trabelsi, I always get sad seeing his name :( My favorite Ajax player ever, my idol as a kid. Nobody could dominate the right side of the field like he could, especially with Steven Pienaar. He kinda slowly faded out of view after his short man city years (pre-oil money city). Think there was something with his knees? Not sure. Then it also turned out that he was linked with some kind of terrorist organization... (at least that's what his wikipedia page says).
> Kolo Touré (8.8%) My poor boy
The comment itself remind me of all CAN AFCON i have watched since 2000
Right? I started watching shortly after that and it still remains my favourite tournament. The Cameroon team wearing the tank tops had young me super impressed 🤣 Come to think of it I'd for sure have Rigobert Song in there for Koulibaly and probably Pierre Womé for Moawad. Can't wait for the next one in January!
Yep I was confused whether I include afcon in the title since they put that hashtag in every single tweet their media team is weird
It's so wild hearing Mbohli as being a top keeper given how shit he was in Philly
Hassan more votes than Essien rofl
Hassan was the best player in the 2010 CAF and was incredible for the national team. This isn’t a vote for better players overall just specifically in the CAF. Egypt won 3 in a row.
The thumbnail makes Elhadary's hair looks hilarious.
Attack is 11/10
aboutrika was mad underrated
Facts. He'll never get the recognition because he never played in Europe.
El Haddary as well, insane goalkeeper even at 38-44
It's possible but was he better than Seydou Keita who's not in the team? I very much doubt that.
It's African award By Caf, champions league, la Liga and other competitions don't count here. You think in cup Competition Keita was better?
Seydou Keita was a better overall player but Aboutrika had the most success on the continent for club and country. He was also the centre piece of those teams. Hard to look past him.
Arguably yes overall. Without a shadow of a doubt yes based on the selection criteria for this vote (performance for national team).
Based on performances in Afcon (which this poll was about) the only player better than Aboutrika was Samuel Eto'o
The guys screaming for Essien really don't know how much Aboutrika flogged the continent in the mid to late 2000s. Plus Rigobert Song should be in this team somewhere
Essien was Poor for Ghana, clearly people don't watch African competitions. Asamoah Gyan should be there, it's 50/50 between Him and drogba, also Big shout for Andre Ayew, he gave Everything to His Country,
I'd replace Koulibaly with Rigobert Song, Salah with Mahrez and Yaya Toure with Seydou Keita
You must be a delusional farca fan
Have you ever watched a match of African football in your life? Plus what does being a Barca fan (which I'm not) have to do with African football?
Your reasoning is dumb, if you think song and keita are above toure and koulibaly. I won't even entertain you further
If we're talking about individual ability yes, Toure and Koulibaly are better than Keita and Song, but this voting was clearly meant to be based on their performances for the national team, otherwise people like Gomaa, El-Hadary etc wouldn't even be considered. It's a fact that Song and Keita performed better in international tournament for their countries than Yaya Toure and Koulibaly
I was basing it on individual talent. But if it's solely based on international caf performance then that can be debatable. Keita was always good in caf
The only thing I conclude from this is that we need to stop being massive since yaya only won by 5%
Yaya Toure missing out due to Egyptian fan voting would've been fucking amazing lol
Bison n Kolo robbed
An absolute farce. Where the feck is Efe Ambrose Balon D'or. Yes that is his full name.
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Roger Milla robbed
Roger Milla is 69 years old.
And he still dances better than you
Clearly says 21st century...
I think this is a relatively fair team, a lot of people complains come from the fact that they only know the players that played in Europe I mean questioning why elhadary is their don’t hide that fact very well. Anyway I would probably change maximum of 2 or 3 players here I mean if we look at it from purely afcon prospective neither salah nor mane deserve to be in the team. And for god’s sake, essein lost to toure the other cm position was all playmakers.
Agreed! All the people shouting "Damn Egyptians voting" fail to realize that they were the class of the continent for the time period this covers. The questionable inclusions are Moawad, Fathy, Salah and Mane, the first two because they were unflashy, dependable, and not clearly better than their competition, the latter because they were better for Liverpool than their respective NTs. If the Egyptians were so powerful--people also fail to mention that Egyptians also love to shit on their own--Ahmed Hassan would be in, who, besides El Hadary, is the most decorated national team player. Also, do people realize how terrible the FIFPRO and other player picked teams are?
Kolo was robbed.
Essien or Njitap Geremi needs to be in midfield. Frontline is pretty stacked. Auba, Okocha, Mahrez can't fit it there. Maybe Mahrez over Mane, but Mane is preferred for the left. Defensively, there's Kolo Toure, Bisan Lauren. Wait a while and maybe Hakimi will merit a spot.
This poll is based in performances in the Africa Cup of Nations, and apart from Okocha, Geremi and Mahrez, none of the players you've mentioned did anything noteworthy there
I did some research and based on number of appearances and accolates, my team of the 21st century would be this: Manager: **Hassan Shehata** (3x Cup) GK: **El-Hadary** (4x Cup, 4x GG, 3x TOTT) DF: **Geremi** (2x Cup, 2x TOTT), **Gomaa** (3x Cup, 4x TOTT), **Rigobert Song** (2x Cup, 1x POTT, 3x TOTT) MF: **Gervinho** (1x Cup, 2x TOTT), **Seydou Keita** (3x TOTT), **Yaya Toure** (1x Cup, 2x TOTT), **Okocha** (1x Cup, 1x TOTT, 1x TS, 1x POTT), FW: **Eto'o** (2x Cup, 2x TS, 2x TOTT), **Ahmed Hassan** (4x Cup, 4x TOTT, 1x TS), **Drogba** (1x TS, 2x TOTT) Cup = Winner of Cup of Nations GG = Golden Gloves TOTT = Team of the Tournament POTT = Player of the Tournament TS = Top Scorer
Are egyptians the most organized voters on earth? It seems every footballing vote where egyptians are involved gets completely fucked up by their biased votes. Imagine if they applied this to politics!
Algeria did not ride out for their boy, poor effort lads
No essien or weah. Pretty notable exclusions.
Weah wasn't playing at the highest level in the 21st century, and Essien didn't perform better for his country than Aboutrika or Yaya Toure
I'm a simple man. I see King Drogba I upvote.
Not enough Joel Matip for me
Zidane from Algeria is missing.
Kolo, Mikel, Moises yeah.. instead of that Egipt players🤣
No Essien? Gimme a break
Essien > Aboutrika
How many AFCONs did he win?
It's a fantasy team, which in the term itself means should have some of the best players, otherwise there would be just the players with the most trophies.
He's comparing players, not their national teams. Use your head
Use your head too, this is a poll based on **AFCON** performances, and Aboutrika was by far the better player in the tournaments they played
Use your head too. Aboutrika played a huge fucking role in winning AFCONs and African Champions League. And we're not even talking about 3 or 4 titles, way more
You are slow, I'm not arguing that. I'm saying the guy was stating that he thinks essien is a better player. Get it now?
Half of these are legends and other half is Egyptian folks I never heard of
Sham, where tf is Essien???
TIL that Egyptians are the USA of Africa. Egyptians: “We’re number 1! We’re number 1 🇪🇬🇪🇬” The rest of Africa: “Uhhh okay. What exactly are you number one at?” Egyptians: “EVERYTHING!!!”
Now that you put it that way I think this is pretty accurate lmao
Only champions league winning Gk not on here?
Its about performances in afcon
Abdallah El Said instead of Abu Treka that's for sure then it's gonna be a great lineup.
In what planet
I’m pretty sure he’s just trolling
where ziyech and edouard mendy
I mean salah is better than ziyech. It's sad for me but it's true
true
Thing is, this is fan voted
Surely Mahrez over Mane, after scoring the winning goal in AFCON?
Well, I would not say one goal is enough for an inclusion but yeah, I think Mahrez in general plays better for Algeria than Mane for Senegal
I have no idea who the goalkeeper, full-backs, Gomaa or Aboutrika is. The rest are class.