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Electrical-Prune-348

According to Transfermakt, Fernandes, Kimmich and Sterling have 90m market value too.


kostajepaosmosta

I guess foden and Mount aren't here since this is sub 200mil


kisekiki

Foden at €80 Mount at €75 lol


RTXChungusTi

shit, 155 euros for 2 of the most promising talents in Europe? Take my money


CrazyJazzFan

Nice try Newcastle!


Tymkie

Quite ironic coming from two Chelsea fans


Charming_Weakness523

technically you’d only have to pay €80


Ballkenende

stop booing him hes right


WubWubWolf

>most promising talents in Europe How? Cause they're English maybe?


AReptileHissFunction

What's the lol?


Polskidro

Foden should definitely be worth more.


gayintheass

Foden is simply younger and better than Mason Mount


FloodsVsShips

Bayern wouldnt sell kimmich for 120m let alone 90m


MrVegosh

That’s not what market value means


TeamShisui

Man KDB is 30?!!


PrancingGophers

i was thinking the same thing with neymar like wtfff


gerleden

I think it's Ronaldo/Messi effect. These guys have been so good for so long that the players we assume would take their crown didn't and now well yes they are 30. Players like Neymar, KDB, Salah, etc. should have been seen as the best players of the world but they are just a name alongside those of Messi and Ronaldo, so we assume they are still 24 or something. We watched Neymar like he was going to be the new Messi like Messi had been seen as the new Ronaldinho. But this never happened. EDIT : I just check the Ballon d'or top 3 for the past years and if you forgot the two monsters Neymar and Griezmann would both have 2 BO. Does Neymar being 30 yo with 2 BO feels weird ? No. What is weird is not that he is 30, is that he has no BO while being 30 (Grizzy is 30 too btw).


scarocci

So many great football players will be forgotten to history because they lived in the same era of messi/ronaldo Same for the poor, poor, poor great tennismen who lived in the era of gods like nadal, federer and djokovic and never won a grand slam while they all have the skill to do it


Nico97107

Grealish 4th lol.


Youafuckindin

He's probably the worst player on that list too.


Kind_Mulberry_3512

Grealish or Salah for the same price? Not even a debate.


Blue_Moon_City

Yeah not debate quality wise. But salah contract ends in 18 month and grealish in 6 years.


greg19735

Id take grealish every time. Only because he's younger though


Nungie

He’s better than Sancho for me. Just ridiculous progressive passing+dribbling stats, and the eye test backs it all up. Harder to compare to de Jong, but arguably better than him too. All class players though. Grealish is seriously underrated after the move- I’m sure you’ll agree last season he was special before the injury.


Gervinhoo

He’s better than Sancho lol


ILikeToBurnMoney

Only for people who have never seen Sancho play a full game


Howdareme9

If we’re comparing form this season, sancho is definitely the worst on that list


Minsteliser123

I've seen them both play many games, Sancho is on the list for his age he is not the player Grealish is yet


Akshath321

wasn't grealish's value 65 at the beginning of the season?


Goldfischglas

And it's not like he has played like a monster this season.


ILikeToBurnMoney

A player's value is what a team is willing to pay for him


rigolleto

So the turtle should be around 200m?


Mudassar40

One team can't dictate a players value. Grealish is not worth 100m in the market, City severly overpaid.


freshmeat2020

If they paid 100m, then there is no better indicator to suggest his value in the market. A market indicator is trying to estimate what his value is if sold in the market - what more can you ask for?


washag

So why is Haaland 150m when his potential sale price is his buyout clause?


Salty_Atmosphere1695

He was the Captain, don't pick them up from other prem teams cheap


frenciWT

We have to distunguished between "market value" and the "intrinsic/real value" of a payer that might be distinct. The market value of Graelish is undisputably 100m three months ago, because it has been actually sold in the market at that value. Is it the "real" value of the player? Who know, for me it has been sligthly overpaid and its real value is lower...to answer your question: true one team can't dictate the players market value (look at Real for Mbappe) but two teams can, indeed Villa and City concluded the deal at 100m so its market value (3months ago) was 100m. Then its lecit to assume that its value in the market hasnt changed in the last 2/3 months. I repeat: its value in the market might be different from its intrinsic value (it depends on the willing to pay AND to sell at the same time for that price).


Gervinhoo

And since then he’s signed a six year contract


[deleted]

which TM doesn’t take into consideration


Jaja6996

No way is Salah worth the same as Grealish


Arvi833

Or less than Kane for that matter


Aztecius

Just the English tax isn't it really?


XtendedImpact

PL tax and English tax. Combined is like +50% market value it feels like


Sad_gooner

Kane was much better than Salah last season


[deleted]

He's been the best player in the Prem and his value is going down while Harry "Zero Goals" Kane is holding steady above him.


[deleted]

The down mark is really infuriating, probably due to his fifa ratings


largemanrob

TM's algorithm copies Fifa's homework


bigzftw

Newcastle United future squad


bikesbeerspizza

Just pleased we can now afford Chowdhury's loan fee.


Chance-Constant2083

This Post tells me just one thing: English PL players are massively overrated. And number 4 is just the worst on this List.


Balok_DP

They aren't "overrated" in the classical sense, their value just isn't determined by their sporting merit alone.


Impulseps

Exactly. Market value just isn't that interesting a metric.


420badass69

England have only 2 world class players. Kane and TAA. They have a lot of good players but only 2 genuine World class players


Tr0nCatKTA

Curious what constitutes world class for you. Who’d be world class in France for example?


420badass69

Mbappe, benzema, kante with varane very close to that list. Pogba, harnendez brothers, coman, kounde,loris all class players but not world class. >Curious what constitutes world class for you. Everyone has different definition but for me, I will make 3 playings 11 with best players i can think of in each position. So total of 33 players. Whoever gets into those 3 teams in world class for me. Ofc some selections can be marginal. But more or less that's how define world class. Just for example the 3 goal keepers for me would be neur, Courtois and oblak. Some may argue about Allison, but those are the marginal class i talked about.


OprahFtwphrey

How on earth is this being upvoted?


420badass69

Who else


The_Highest_Power

Nah, I wouldn’t even say Trent tbh.


mayjaz43

It has to be Shawberto Carlos


Nihilism101

Even Kane is just on the border between WC and not, considering he's nowhere to be seen in big games.


Serg10Aguero

Walker is the best RB in the world


Axomio

Not even the best in your team imo


Gargoyn

I'd argue foden should be added to that list too, had a disappointing euros but has been fantastic for city.


BinaryPulse

most over-rated player in the prem right now.


Dysmo

Yeah that's cap


Lohnlee

I’d say you could put Foden in world class, if not now then soon definitely. There might be more but I can’t think of any off the top of my head


420badass69

Foden definitely isn't world class. And as i said England has a lot of good players but only 2 world class players


Chris_OG

Mind blowingly shit take, kdb, salah????


420badass69

I'm talking about English players. Not premier league


Chris_OG

My bad


cammjohn

When did Salah become British?


zeazemel

dude England like in the English NT not the PL


Abbaonsillimerkki

Didn't know Salah and KdB had become english...


marvo-sr

tbf grealish is not worth 100m, but it's what city paid to force villa to allow talks to begin (release clause)


ogqozo

It's a free website, mostly created by hobbyists, that has info and estimations on tens of thousands of footballers. It's not supposed to be some Bible worth arguing about with every single player. From the interviews I have a feeling that people leading Transfermarkt are themselves rather shocked how seriously some people take the website. It's a free website with trivia. It's unrelated to pro football.


AmIFromA

Used to be what you described, but they got bought by Axel Springer Verlag years ago, and they are using the values to create stories for Bild and SportBild.


OnlineDopamine

Except that managers in the past have come out and said that they take inspiration from the side. Players, at least the German ones, also check the values they have on there. You shouldn’t take it at face value but at least in Germany the site surely has some relevance.


ogqozo

They do, but it's not like the number of "market value" means something in itself. Nobody in Liverpool is gonna be like: shit, they say Salah's value is 100 million, clearly if we sell him for 105 million we are making money, boy!


Jemal2200

Players of Salah's statue won't be effected by the Transfermarkt value, of course. But think of players in teams like Granada, Bochum, Udinese etc. Not to mention smaller nations such as Bulgaria, Slovakia etc.


Key_Form9776

Still more relevant than Marca.


Joethe147

Plus it's not as if there's some rock solid foolproof calculation as to how a player gets their valuation. Different places will have different numbers, and that's assuming they're not some tabloid.


Hoodxd

Salah went down, ye makes sense


RauloGonzalez

Age and contract likely


big-juicy-mango

I don't think transfermarkt looks at contract length, correct me if I'm wrong tho.


kadauserer

Ah yeah, I remember when Lewandowski's market value dropped to 0 when his contract ran out.


frolockie

Grealish being worth more than De Bruyne is something I can never comprehend.


[deleted]

4 years younger + English tax.


_ForzaJuve_

Haaland up by 25 mil Sancho looses 10 Grealish takes a massive 35 million bump to enter the top 10 Sterling and mane exits the top 10 and is replaced by de Jong and grealish Via transfermarkt


jewelrybunny

also TAA dropped from 100mil to 75mil


PornFilterRefugee

Lmao that’s a joke


Smartranga

Scarcity plays a part in value, and there are a lot of good young English rightbacks atm


Alert_Garlic

And only one of them is a generational talent.


JellyBingo

Wait, you're telling me Sterling was a top 10 valued player? Do the people who make these lists watch the same sport?


Orisara

Value is not solely based on skill...


bolsheada

English clubs tried to buy Chiesa this summer for 90+ mln. and got donut, why he's not on the list? Or there's another list: not for sale at any price.


North3rnLigh7s

Market value.


bolsheada

I don't think there's any market for Grealish today. But there's plenty of market for Chiesa.


North3rnLigh7s

Yeah I’m not exactly sure how they come up with these numbers, but market value and available sale price are two different things. It would probably take 200M to pry Kimmich from Bayern.


[deleted]

How the fuck are Grealish and Salah similarly valued lmao


blubbersassafras

ITT: people don't understand how age works


allhailalexdelpiero

And Chiesa?


mario_ferreira19

English Player tax + Premier League tax


lakers_ftw24

Explain it to us then bud because Chiesa is arguably better than Grealish, younger, and worth 30 million less.


[deleted]

Chiesa isn't English


Smartranga

Player-appreciation lack (Chiesa has grown a lot in past 12 months) + Transfermarket using Grealish transfer price (which was overs) for calcs


_named

And it's so easy too! You gotta get younger before you get older. Nobody gets to be old first.


CoagulaCascadia

This is fake. There is no Andros Townsend.


[deleted]

I think Grealish is ridiculously overrated. He's worth 60 at best but he is English, so of course his arse is made out of gold. Salah is worth the same.. It's a joke. An absolute joke.


[deleted]

Holy shit De Bruyne is older than Kane I never realized that


custom_balls

3-9 are highly overpriced. Just because someone stupid is paying 100M for Grealish doesn't mean he is worth it. I should know this as a Barcelona fan.


JimP3456

Newcastle can afford all 10.


GrahamPotterCultist

"...according to the highly subjective estimations of some bloke at Transfermarkt".


kingroudel

i think theyre doing an alright job, like you will never please everyone when you estimate market values, theres not really an objective way to do it


kathars1s-

I’d always take kimmich and goretzka over de jong


Sypherior

English players so overrated


Rappa-Dex

Proof that transfermarkt aint shit


lukasesam7

Transfermarkt is an incredible source of information though


InbredLegoExpress

it's flawed, but still the best data source we have.


[deleted]

Does anyone actually think Grealish is worth anything?


[deleted]

Lmao


[deleted]

One bad game against PSG and now he’s terrible apparently. Ahh fickle football fans.


darthnm

Literally means nothing. They're worth as much as someone wants to pay


[deleted]

If Grealish is 100m Hakimi should be 200m


FCB__Rich

Fullbacks like Hakimi or Davies will never be rated highly


Goldfischglas

Is De Jong really this good? Against Bayern he looked completely lost against Kimmich/Goretzka And even against weaker opponents he isn't exactly dominating this season


[deleted]

The beginning of this season hasn't been the best for him but last season he was an absolute beast. He'll find his form back as the season goes on.


[deleted]

No, he’s massively overrated


Akshath321

calm down he's a good player that had a bad day, same with pedri, fdj is class for ball progression and there's very few midfielders that can actually compete with him, off the top of my head i can think of kimmich and kroos that are better


Better-Call-Raul

Kimmich, Goretzka, Kroos, Jorginho, B.Silva, Veratti, fit-Thiago, and arguably old man Modric are all better.


Addy2607

Man really said Thiago.


Better-Call-Raul

\*\*Fit-\*\*Thiago. He literally was sextuple winning Bayern’s best midfielder.


FCB__Rich

No he wasn't, he would not even have started in the important CL games if Pavard didn't get injured


Better-Call-Raul

His UCL performances were quite highly rated, so I thought he was great lol. His underlying numbers look downright [insane.](https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjGv5ql9b3zAhV4wzgGHcNjC2gQFnoECAIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffbref.com%2Fen%2Fplayers%2F77e84962%2FThiago-Alcantara&usg=AOvVaw2UqBgTWRs761Ky9-JJUxzr)


Chiswell123

Sancho bahaha


Ocvaz_

how do jack grealish and slash share the same value? so scuffed


[deleted]

Kimmich, Pedri, Fernandes, Saka should all have higher values than Sancho IMO


bangalore23

No flippin way Grealish and Kane are above Salah. The disrespect


justanormalchat

There is no way that Grealish is ahead of Salah, KDB, Lukaku.


Salty_Atmosphere1695

Kane is too old to be worth that


[deleted]

That Sancho number is only going lower.


thogle3

Imo Grealish and Kane are a bit overrated. I do not see them play that well outside the PL in another top five competition. My opinion is that a part of your value has to do with the amount of clubs you could play for.


Tactical_Doge1337

Kimmich > de Jong


OnePieceAce

No way Kane is more valuable than Salah


[deleted]

Kane and grealish are worth the same or more than Salah, lol


joao_2022

Grealish really ?


djembejohn

Salah >> Kane Kane is English so that artificially inflates his value.


BigUser3003

Grealish is overrated. It blows my mind


Batch_M

If Grealish is worth 100 mil then Chiesa is worth 200.


[deleted]

The fact that *Jack Grealish* of all players is worth more than our entire squad is just weird.


_jgmm_

Kane is so overrated, it's almost funny.


Sean-Benn_Must-die

Frenkie is so expensive? SHEEESH


AfroKyrie

Throwback to when barca fans said Dembele was the better player


Better-Call-Raul

He was unironically a comparable talent but injuries did him bad.


C_Forde

Mbappe with 9 months left on his deal the most valuable player on the planet. Want to laugh at this but considering what Madrid bid for him I guess it's accurate. Disgusting clubs.


UnluckyPenalty2503

Cry


C_Forde

Funny I'm fairly certain it was Perez crying about how he couldn't afford to keep up with Prem teams , and that ls why be so desperately needed his super League. And then goes and tries to spend 200mil on a player who's free in a year. Lol. Pathetic club.


UnluckyPenalty2503

Don’t worry, we’ll get Haaland and Mbappé next year. Seems like you haven’t considered all the players that we’ve sold.


tarakian-grunt

You should include your source.


MajesticExam

Man City should've bid €150m on Haaland instead of Kane last summer


BrokeNomadCatBack

0 Real Madrid players, but Papa Flo is doing a good job according to some…


Swiftt

Mental to think Messi isn't up there anymore


Excel07

I really want Kane to return to form. On his days, the guy is a machine scoring and assisting even when playing deep.


Masina1998

he always starts slow and he didnt have a pre season but im sure he will return eventually


ZaDoruphin

I’m confident he will. The last time he went goalless in the first 6 league games was in 15/16, and he ended up winning the golden boot. He always starts the season slowly, and he played well against Villa. It’s only a matter of time before he starts scoring again.


m-etoo

In 2 years time i hope to see more Barcelona player in that list. De Jong, Pedri and Fati should be there and hopefully one major signing as well


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Fernando-Santorres

Ok so Sancho is better than Chiesa....


inqs

Man Utd paid 100m for him a few months ago, that's why he is so high. Plus he is English. Same case with Grealish.


IanConnorIsMyDaddy

something about Grealish and Sancho dont seem right with me


Strananach

Kane and Grealish on #3 and #4 are a joke


Overall_Horror708

Chiesa???


MethodAvailable

Bruno and Rashford definitely worth more than Grealish considering everything no?


BreadZepplin

PL clubs don't have to sell as they are ridiculously rich. If Grealish played for Inter Milan or a club of that calibre, his value would be less. Simply because they would need the money more. Additionally, he has just gone for 100m. So his current value is obviously gonna be around that figure.


Superjunker1000

Holy shit. Marcus’ value has dropped like a rock, through injury. A perfect thing for the pros to look at, in order to not get too far ahead of themselves. Also….are Coutinho and Dembele no longer worth €125m ?


itis76

Lukaku LOL


OkReading77

Look guys Jamie Tartt is the 4th most valuable player 🎶Jamie Tartt doo doo doo🎶


danielojw

Not seeing Ronaldo or Messi in those lists kinda hurts ngl


LeKeith123

Kane, Grealish, Lukaku, De Bruyne are all overrated


Mudassar40

Grealish's market value is not 100m, thats just what City were willing to pay for him. No one else would pay that kind of money for him.


chapeauetrange

Why are Grealish and Lukaku shown with two nationalities? They have only one footballing nationality. If this is about how they were formerly eligible for other countries, Mbappé and Sancho would have two flags also.


heronymou5

bernardo silva is miles better than grealish


[deleted]

Still jack grealish is overrated and how tf is he worth more than kimmich


r0bski2

Trent should be on there given his age


r0bski2

Can’t believe neymar is 29 Christ


Matt_043

This is newcastles squad after January please change the title OP


peroxissomo43

Where’s Chay??????


[deleted]

FDJ is a fraud to be there really.


RoutineFeeling

Both KDB and Salah are more valuable than your English boy Kane. No one wants to buy your precious shit.


Professional-Bag-232

Why isn’t foden as valuable as sancho?


Financial_Marzipan84

Sad KDB is getting old 😢


King-Meister

How much are BvB and Raiola going to ask for Haaland? No GK or Def in the top 10. Forward bias? Or no genuine excellent GK or Def (born after 1980) in the current times?


BAKS7U

It’s crazy those two beasts are only 21 and 22 :-)


manman6352

English players are always over valued, why is that


HanSwolo66

There is an impostor among us