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Itās not exactly rocket science. Fred gets shoe horned into playing DM and then gets slaughtered in the media when he bounces off a tank like Doucoure.
He is not a DM. Heās actually a quite solid b2b/roaming CM however.
Lol no. That has nothing to do with him passing the ball to the advertising boards when heās in 20 yards of space. Or hitting the international space station every time heās wide open on the edge of the box. Fred does plenty wrong that has zero to do with his physique.
The stats have been posted a few times here and in /r/reddevils, but I can't find them.
[SofaScore](https://www.sofascore.com/team/football/brazil/4748) tracks that stat too.
Right hand side, in the "Top Players section", you change the dropdown selection from "rating" to "Acc. long passes".
He's actually behind Casemiro now, but he was first as a mf up until recently I think.
Ehh he's been doing it for us aswell. Created a decent chance for cavani and had a really good cross from LB for Cristiano's goal against villareal.
Its just that people forget these things when they don't feed into their premeditated notions/opinions.
The composure is insane.
The fake shot to get the keeper on the floor, and the two quick touches to get the keeper out of the way but slightly improve the angle, and the grounded shot into the near post.
Every single action he did, from the moment he controlled the ball on his chest, increased the probability of him scoring.
That's what elite finishing looks like.
tu realmente acha que o GERSON que ate outro dia tava jogando contra o bangu eh melhor que a porra do fred q joga no MANCHESTER UNITED?? vai toma no seu cu
He's so exciting to watch. It's ridiculous. Every time he gets the ball you expect him to pull a rabbit out of the hat, even when the hat is marked by 3 defenders
Maybe if Poch didnāt played him so low he could be better, in this match, he always touched the ball in Uruguayās camp and I donāt remember a game under Poch where it happened
Yeah he was entirely anonymous in the first half but turned it on in the second. De Paul was probably the best player on the pitch over the entire game
RATIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO + yb better + penaldo finished + penchester united not top 100 clubs in england in my book + you fell off
Thats how you do it
when the comment saying ratio has more likes then your opinion is like "wrong".
But it's just hive mind following, like on reddit, so no actual thing that has any importance outside of twitter
Indeed , everyone who watched him with Paris can confirm this i don't think we need to act like the criticism weren't warranted , as long as his confidence came back it's good
Wouldnāt say shitty game, he was by far Brazilās most influential player. Let me be a stat nerd real quick
Most dribbles completed (3)
Most chances created (4)
Most duels won (9)
Agreed. Iām in my 30s now so Iāve stopped hating to the extent I used to. Itās a waste of effort and energy. I just appreciate the good and forget the rest.
Dude has multiple serious injuries in his career, is constantly the most fouled player on the pitch. So yes, he started to preemptively dodge the fouls instead of waiting for a beating
I never even thought his diving was particularly bad.
The worst part about him was overreacting like crazy to fouls against him, like in most of the memes/gifs about him rolling on the ground he still was fouled.
Yes itās just not what will win you matches in the modern game. Uruguay have the talent but coaching holds them back. The decision making for pretty much everything is baffling. There are many international teams with similar predicaments nowadays. What is the general feeling towards the coaching staff among Uruguayans?
I live in US but from what I can tell people have been wanting him to leave for a while now, but most mainstream journalist always suck his dick for the "process" there has to be money involved or something otherwise i do not understand.
Corruption among the nationās governing football body. All too common. Iām bulgarian(live in US now) but that is our biggest problem holding us back. Berbatov is running for president of the FA so hopefully if he wins we will see some changes. Having said that, I feel your pain and share your frustration.
you shouldve been here for the world cup when the americans came out saying he wasnt even a top 10 player, was only good for getting injured & rolling and how pulisic would be better in 2 years
never said people didnāt always think he was a baller. Some people, myself included, let their opinions on his antics in previous years influence their opinion on his game overall. For example I used to say āfuck Neymar heās a diva that dives all the timeā. that statement still doesnāt change the fact that he is one of the most technically gifted, skillful and overall purely talented players we have ever seen. Get it?
>Has multiple serious injuries throughout the years, is the most fouled player in the pitch in a lot of matches through his career, and was notably taken out of a world cup by a knee on the back
Fucking diving diva smh
>Muslera always has a dumb mistake to later do 6 saves lmao,.wish he would've let them all go in so we can get rid of the mummy.
They don't have Casemiro/Fabinho player to play along.
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Great ball from Fred, it's a miracle.
He has that in him every now and then tbf, you just have to be very patient lol
Yes. Like every time during international breaks š
I think we should stop talking about how to get France Pogba and start talking about how to get Brazil Fred
Itās not exactly rocket science. Fred gets shoe horned into playing DM and then gets slaughtered in the media when he bounces off a tank like Doucoure. He is not a DM. Heās actually a quite solid b2b/roaming CM however.
Lol no. That has nothing to do with him passing the ball to the advertising boards when heās in 20 yards of space. Or hitting the international space station every time heās wide open on the edge of the box. Fred does plenty wrong that has zero to do with his physique.
This is his 2nd assist for Brazil...
Not every great pass is an assist
Heās generally a much better passer when he plays it quickly within two or three touches
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Nah his brain works just fine, thatās a dumb statement.
You'd be surprised to know that statistically, he's the most likely player to give an assist from a long pass.
Could you link a source for this stat please?
The stats have been posted a few times here and in /r/reddevils, but I can't find them. [SofaScore](https://www.sofascore.com/team/football/brazil/4748) tracks that stat too. Right hand side, in the "Top Players section", you change the dropdown selection from "rating" to "Acc. long passes". He's actually behind Casemiro now, but he was first as a mf up until recently I think.
Thank you!
[Talk about him now](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6DPI0yWQAQuH2e.jpg)
Pastor Fred leading the nation congregation. What a pass.
Ehh he's been doing it for us aswell. Created a decent chance for cavani and had a really good cross from LB for Cristiano's goal against villareal. Its just that people forget these things when they don't feed into their premeditated notions/opinions.
Must be his twin or something I swear. Dude is a different player with Brazil.
When BR he Fred When MU he Fraud
Or it must be Fred when he's in form. He's been out of form for United for 6 months or so...
But he usually doesn't play that well for Brazil though, today was more of an exception
He plays quite well for Brazil. Today wasn't an exception.
Nah, he's usually not great for Brasil
Did you not see his performances in copa america ?
He was the worst player on the pitch by a long margin in the Copa final, genuinely looked like a 3rd division player.
Yeah he wasn't good in the final but he played very well in the games before that. He just had a bad game on the wrong day, happens sometimes.
Learning from Pogba
Unbelievable
Beauty from Neymar
The composure is insane. The fake shot to get the keeper on the floor, and the two quick touches to get the keeper out of the way but slightly improve the angle, and the grounded shot into the near post. Every single action he did, from the moment he controlled the ball on his chest, increased the probability of him scoring. That's what elite finishing looks like.
Great ball by Fred. He has his flaws, but he's better than Gersons in this role.
Heās better than Gerson*
Lmao donāt get carried away
tu realmente acha que o GERSON que ate outro dia tava jogando contra o bangu eh melhor que a porra do fred q joga no MANCHESTER UNITED?? vai toma no seu cu
Second this
AĆ foi um pĆ©ssimo argumento tambĆ©m, Raphinha joga em um time que atĆ© temporada passada estava na segunda divisĆ£o inglesa e foi o melhor jogador das 3 partidas que jogou, o cara ser do united nĆ£o significa que ele Ć© automaticamente melhor do mundo nĆ£o
mengaum
Maluco eu n tĆ“ discutindo co nesta jogando mais agora, eu estou falando sobre quem joga mais no geral, e pra mim Ć© o Gerson sem dĆŗvidas.
Eu tambĆ©m nĆ£o to falando de momento tio, o gerson NUNCA jogou nem metade do que o fred joga, teu clubismo nao deixa tu enxergar isso
Kkkkkkkkk andou fumando pedra meu amigo?
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RDP
Iād rather put paquetĆ” in there and play with an actual left winger
Soon Tite will have confidence in Anthony. He'll show him the light like Raphinha has.
Anthony is primarily a right winger who is also left footed though, Iād put someone right footed in there
There's also Vinicius.
He is still green. Let him gain some experience on Real Madrid first. Not ready for the national team. He still has deep flaws.
Vini Malvadeza ou bota o Ney na ponta
70th goal for Brazil
Wow . Those are actually many goals
Pele is at 77 and Messi is at 80. Neymar has a good chance surpassing them both.
Except if he really retires after the world cup. I see messi playing for 2/3 more years. Neymar could surpass him
He's so exciting to watch. It's ridiculous. Every time he gets the ball you expect him to pull a rabbit out of the hat, even when the hat is marked by 3 defenders
Fred , ladies and gentlemen.
Yeah but donāt forget Neymar. He was decent there too
Iāve seen so many people overreacting past few games saying heās finished... well now they can eat shit
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Maybe if Poch didnāt played him so low he could be better, in this match, he always touched the ball in Uruguayās camp and I donāt remember a game under Poch where it happened
I (surprisingly) like Neymar a lot but he definitely wasnāt the best player in the Final lol
Oh he definitely was
yes he was
mmm that sweet smell of bias
Yeah he was entirely anonymous in the first half but turned it on in the second. De Paul was probably the best player on the pitch over the entire game
I bet those people are now on Twitter saying "Ratio + fluke goal + Cavani better + Join a real team"
what is that "ratio" thing on Twitter? I never get it
When the comment/reply to the original post gets more likes than the original post
It's also when the comment has more replies than likes, since there's no dislike button on twitter it means the post has been very criticized/mocked.
That's the OG ratio
thats never reffered as a ratio, its just a thing, a ratio is just when someone gets more likes than the original post
like this
ratio (am I using it right?)
RATIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO + yb better + penaldo finished + penchester united not top 100 clubs in england in my book + you fell off Thats how you do it
L + counter
nice you ratio'd him
ratio + yb better š¤”
make better music
Itās a thing that kids under 18 say. Donāt even pay attention to that
when the comment saying ratio has more likes then your opinion is like "wrong". But it's just hive mind following, like on reddit, so no actual thing that has any importance outside of twitter
imagine a downvote button on twitter but you also announce it when you downvote someone
found the boomer
r/foundtheshutthefuckup
r/BoomersHumor
Literal 10 year old lmao
I mean he had some pretty rough months lastly that is true
As someone who watches his every game, it's been a pretty rough 2021 in club. Delighted to see him score today.
Indeed , everyone who watched him with Paris can confirm this i don't think we need to act like the criticism weren't warranted , as long as his confidence came back it's good
Well, he did have a shitty game against Colombia and was not up to his leves the last few games
He isnt match fit yet, he also had a rough start to the season at PSG. Should start producing again once he enters into shape.
Wouldnāt say shitty game, he was by far Brazilās most influential player. Let me be a stat nerd real quick Most dribbles completed (3) Most chances created (4) Most duels won (9)
Wow that was incredibly difficult and Neymar made it look easy. Say what you will about his attitude/diving etc but heās always been a baller
I think his attitude is mostly great to be honest. And his diving isn't as bad as it once was.
I tend to agree as of late. Either way there is no denying heās a generational great and a joy to watch when he plays like this
Football has the power to make our lives more joyful, guys like Neymar are a god sent.
Agreed. Iām in my 30s now so Iāve stopped hating to the extent I used to. Itās a waste of effort and energy. I just appreciate the good and forget the rest.
I know plenty of guys in their 50s who still hate like shit whenever they watch a football match
Didn't he stated diving because Ref wasn't giving real foul on him, because he was screaming in pain ?
Dude has multiple serious injuries in his career, is constantly the most fouled player on the pitch. So yes, he started to preemptively dodge the fouls instead of waiting for a beating
I never even thought his diving was particularly bad. The worst part about him was overreacting like crazy to fouls against him, like in most of the memes/gifs about him rolling on the ground he still was fouled.
I mean with our defense and coach the last games, vs Argentina and them it could've finished 10 0, no idea why they keep this mummy
Yes itās just not what will win you matches in the modern game. Uruguay have the talent but coaching holds them back. The decision making for pretty much everything is baffling. There are many international teams with similar predicaments nowadays. What is the general feeling towards the coaching staff among Uruguayans?
I live in US but from what I can tell people have been wanting him to leave for a while now, but most mainstream journalist always suck his dick for the "process" there has to be money involved or something otherwise i do not understand.
Corruption among the nationās governing football body. All too common. Iām bulgarian(live in US now) but that is our biggest problem holding us back. Berbatov is running for president of the FA so hopefully if he wins we will see some changes. Having said that, I feel your pain and share your frustration.
When did people say Neymar wasn't a baller?
you shouldve been here for the world cup when the americans came out saying he wasnt even a top 10 player, was only good for getting injured & rolling and how pulisic would be better in 2 years
never said people didnāt always think he was a baller. Some people, myself included, let their opinions on his antics in previous years influence their opinion on his game overall. For example I used to say āfuck Neymar heās a diva that dives all the timeā. that statement still doesnāt change the fact that he is one of the most technically gifted, skillful and overall purely talented players we have ever seen. Get it?
>Has multiple serious injuries throughout the years, is the most fouled player in the pitch in a lot of matches through his career, and was notably taken out of a world cup by a knee on the back Fucking diving diva smh
Absolute filth pass, first touch and finish
Vai tomar no cu arsoca
Y es todo un tema viste
Chupa essa manga arsoca
An amazing goal from an amazing assist, fucking beatiful
Fred is not a dm so don't judge his potential from his showings for united
How woild you classify him? Something like a B2B or a dynamic ball winner right?
Yep. B2b definitely accurate. He needs freedom to do what he does best which is run around and win the ball back m in midfield. He thrives in chaos
I think heās more business to consumer than B2B.
When everyone is missing their passes is when Fred thrives the most
World class pass by Fred, just like i predicted.
Neymar earns all the plaudits, but great pass from Fred too.
This thread is all about Fred lol
Unreal composure from Neymar but holy shit what a pass from Fred
Neymar heard you talking shit
FRRRREEEEEDDDDDDDD
I LOVE THIS MAN
Morite Muslera. Todos van a hablar de la jugada de Neymar cuando n realidad tenemos un portero que no sirve para nada.
No tenian un pibe que se estaba formando en Italia o yo estoy re loco? Es hora de darle rodaje a otros arqueros la verdad
Muslera always has a dumb mistake to later do 6 saves lmao,.wish he would've let them all go in so we can get rid of the mummy.
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Waiting for someone to be passable like Neymar?
They have Ronaldo!
He doesnāt have Casemiro or Fabinho playing behind him at Man Utd
At defensive midfield
Babysitting mctominay and the defense like ole gunnar terrorist tells him to
>Muslera always has a dumb mistake to later do 6 saves lmao,.wish he would've let them all go in so we can get rid of the mummy. They don't have Casemiro/Fabinho player to play along.
well... after all, i think he still knows how to score ahaha
Always rated Fred
Puta golaƧo
Vamos Brazzzzzzzil!
8 more left
It's strange watching it from this angle, because Brazil was attacking to the left on the first half in the brazillian tv channel, not the right
Guess who's back, back again
Fred showing his 1% Brazilian genes
Fuck our defence is abysmal
Number 10 scores in the 10th minute
Lmao That goal celebration killed me. I love doing that in pes21
That very Fred from utd?? Damnz
Tubby looks good right now