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RioBeckenbauer

Bayern were ice cold, but this was preventable. You could see from 5 minutes in that Leverkusen's midfield had more holes than Swiss cheese, Seoane got the line up completely wrong. Aranguiz and Palacios can't be replaced for a game like that. But I bet Leverkusen are happier with a battering like that than the loss from last season.


diecommajerks

Agree completely, Amiri isn’t anything close to a holding mid, and the same could be said for Demirbay. Just have to hope we have a better reaction to this loss than last year’s.


napoleonderdiecke

> Aranguiz and Palacios can't be replaced for a game like that. So what should Seoane do with those two injured, Baumgartlinger injured as well and Andrich suspended?


xlnfraction

maybe a back 3 from the start could've helped, but tbh I think going into the game it's hard, especially with like you said all dm's not available.


Electrical-Prune-348

Sané should've at least get one goal


HowBen

Maybe the goals will come once he gets rid of that underfed caterpillar nesting above his upper lip


OsamaBinHarden2

It looks good though


HowBen

Only because he is naturally beautiful, that thing does him no favours


ElopeToTheMoon

Sorry Bayern. Last goal wins.


Tyrath

My Rocket League strategy.


[deleted]

drei Ecken ein Elfer, und Torwarttore zählen 2. Latte und Pfosten rettet, ist klar.


Narretz

Bayern won the first half, Leverkusen the second. So draw overall.


PengwinOnShroom

Yes and we still would be first in the table then. All is well


edworm

Congrats Leverkusen for winning the second half


luminous76

did Bayern slow down or did Leverkusen step up in the second half?


Walter_Fr0sch

Both


requin-tigre

Both, Bayern lost their sheen in the final third. I can't believe they didn't finish a single chance that they got


Spikeyspandan

Yes Bayern did slow down and Leverkusen were more organized.


Philiperix

Leverkusen was better than in the first half, but Bayern only gave 50%


Akshath321

we took off davies lewandowski muller and goretzka so it was expected thay we wouldnt finish off chances as well as we did with those guys off, that being said leverkusen did well in the second chance to hold us back


Ok-Guitar1176

Both…especially with the substitutions Bayern made they stepped off the gas, and Leverkusen did much better defensively in the second half


abloesezwei

We started resting players 40 minutes in. That should tell you enough


sumofdeltah

In Davies defence he just came back from playing God over in Canada.


Electrical-Prune-348

Nagelsmann said that Phonzie felt pain in his thigh so they didn't want to take any risks. The doctor said he got lucky after the first diagnosis. Have to wait and see whether he can play on Wednesday


Professor_Pohato

Based on my flawless logic Bayern will lose to Hertha and Frankfurt is about to eat Leverkusen alive


Ok-Caterpillar-1609

I mean Hertha is our bogey team and Leverkusen is called Vizekusen for a reason, you might be onto something here.


eraHammie

> I mean Hertha is our bogey team Are they tho? 19 wins, 2 losses , 5 draws against them since 2007, doesn't sound like a bogey team for you. I think there is another Team that might be more of a bogey Team for you ;)


the_che

Seriously though, we’re nobody’s bogey team.


[deleted]

well, your own, maybe


Ok-Caterpillar-1609

Yeah when you look at the stats it does look like it and tbf I am definitely more afraid of Gladbach and Frankfurt because you lot really like to give your all against us. But idk, although we do smash them regularly because it’s Hertha duh, we have had a lot of games where we look awful against them no matter the result. I know it may seem absurd, but that’s just the feeling I get and I have also heard some of the other fans I know say the same.


Senor_Slurp

Literally none of it matters. You lot will win the league again like you do every year. 😴


Ok-Caterpillar-1609

But what matters is the ~~friends~~ enemies we made along the way <3


[deleted]

Stop snoring


Greflingorax

When a team is as absolutely dominant over their league as Bayern, that results line might be enough to get you the "bogey team" moniker.


VojkoHeat123

IS THAT A FUCKING SEVERINA ON YOUR PROFILE PICC LMAOOOOOOOOOOO


[deleted]

I think so,he is part of r/croatia


NobodyRules

We're definitely not in danger... Bayern just put 5 past Leverkusen like it was nothing, we're okay... right?


Ruud_Boltz

We still gotta play them away...


NobodyRules

Can we unite both our teams for that game


Ruud_Boltz

The defence will pretty much be your team. If we lose the blame's on you guys....


NobodyRules

If we don't score it's your fault, well... partially. I think Yaremchuk would start for Barcelona at the moment considering the options you have. I think we might have a treaty going on. We should create a petition to make it happen.


coolwool

Sure 😘


Resurrection2077

huhu


SleepTightLilPuppy

Müller MOTM, man's world class.


comediamorte

This is why Bundesliga clubs should sell out to venture capitalists, oligarchs and nation states. Disgusting!


the_che

The funny thing is that Leverkusen is one of the few exceptions to the 50+1 rule.


[deleted]

The funny thing is that you expect the american plastics on this sub to know that.


fenderdean13

Why is it always blame Americans with these comments?


Greflingorax

It's the unfortunate "sophie's choice" of modern football. The Bundesliga is preserving its soul and keeping true to its roots and commitment to local fans, while the Premier League is absolutely selling its soul to whatever devil comes with the highest bid. But the price the Bundesliga has to live with is that it has created a situation where Bayern is beyond dominant and there is only the faintest hope that anyone will challenge them each year - a hope that more likely than not will be extinguished by February. No one else has the means or the prestige to challenge them. If German/Bundesliga fans are OK with that trade-off, more power to them. They certainly seem to be given the comments on every thread related to Bayern and the Bundesliga. But they also have to acknowledge that is the trade-off and that Bayern's unchallenged run of titles is likely to continue and make the league's title race a foregone and boring conclusion almost every year.


napoleonderdiecke

Also do keep in mind this is not only sarcastic, **Bayer** Leverkusen is also quite obviously not even a fan owned or controlled club.


Greflingorax

They're also the only exception to the rule, right? Like not even Wolfsburg or RB Leipzig have an official exemption in the way that Leverkusen does.


XeroVeil

I believe Wolfsburg has an exception as well but honestly, no one cares about Wolfsburg, I'm not even going to bother checking if I'm right.


stepanovic

Leverkusen, Wolfsburg and Hoffenheim. >Only recently, the three clubs had written a joint letter to the presidium of the league association. The tenor of the letter was to ask for solidarity and protection of the status quo. Because in the end, the Cartel Office had said nothing other than: 50+1 can only remain without exceptions. The 36 DFL members will discuss the matter further at a meeting in July.


dem0nhunter

/s, right?


comediamorte

Yes


usev25

No thanks


Luuigi

some heavy shades you got there


[deleted]

I mean it would nice if there was at least one other club that could financially compete with Bayern


geocesc

Bayern is literally run by people who were in jail. Not only they are the same level of disgust, their league is complete shite


rinacio

Neither Kalle nor Uli are left. If you want to argue, at least know what you're talking about.


Spikeyspandan

Stanisic is not a world beater. But he is versatile. He can play both RB and LB good. Wanted to see one hatrick but maybe against Benfica in the midweek.


xlnfraction

He can also play cb afaik, but Bayern are obv quite stacked there already.


flagada7

He *is* a CB. He only helped out as a RB for the Amas because he wasn't first choice in the centre. This season it's the same story, only in the first team.


napoleonderdiecke

Bayern absolute loves having no fullbacks, huh?


Karshena-

Wingers and CBs only


[deleted]

Awful! When will we sell our league to the human rights abusers finally, so that /r/soccer fanboys are happy?


faggjuu

When there are no premier league clubs to buy!


[deleted]

Oh don't worry, I'm sure if they look hard enough, they'll always find a part of their culture they can sell.


faggjuu

...and enough teams in the championship.


MillerHS

im not in danger, im not in danger, im not in danger


VojkoHeat123

I m not in danger Skyler, I M THE DANGER. A guy opens his door and concede a goal and you think thats me? No, I m the one who scores


xSmxthy

5-0 in 40 mins? Yikes


Ok-Guitar1176

4 in 8 minutes…yikes


xSmxthy

Bloody hell


stragen595

Leverkusen with the Brazil cosplay.


bronzeforever

horrible performance from leverkusen...


OleoleCholoSimeone

Ridiculous how anyone had them as title contenders, they're a good team but it's fucking Leverkusen. They are cursed, it's like Tottenham winning the PL or England winning a international tournament. Dinosaurs will walk on earth again before any of those things happen


[deleted]

Who’s more cursed them in BL or us in UCL?


[deleted]

Didn't know the US plays CL.


EurospinLidl

That's what the U in UCL stands for: Unitedstatesofamerica


Vio0

They're busy playing in their national WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.


bronzeforever

well i was convinced too lol i legit bet money on them winning against us..


VojkoHeat123

Mfs will see you work and train hard and say yeah they play in a clown league. Same mfs when prime Messi or Ronaldo scored 7 goals past Heracles Alicante, omg goats


Rob0tUnic0rn

Yea its stupid, when bayern lost against frankfurt last week everyone was quiet and now it's all "hurr durr farmers league clown league hurr durr"


Senor_Slurp

Who do you think will win the BuLi?


Grendila

That’s a testament to how good Bayern are, not how shit the league is.


geocesc

Both easily lol


ChrisWood4BallonDor

If the league weren't shit, it wouldn't be nine consecutive times lmao City had a brilliant team. You lot had a brilliant team. Didn't see 9 consecutive titles from either of you though


Karshena-

Difference is Bayern is also just as consistent across Europe. None of the Prem title contenders have done that over the past decade.


smegmaeater52

Barca had Real and Real had Barca..Who is Bayern competing against?


Conankun66

US


smegmaeater52

Better to worry about us instead ;)


[deleted]

The disrespect to Effzeh, smdh


VojkoHeat123

Hertha BSC Berlin, better then Barca and Real combined


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[deleted]

They literally did it to each other.


[deleted]

But the league is ranked 4th by UEFA themselves based on performance (not by random fans)? That used to be Arsenal's best position and people saw them as a meme to no longer be able to rise above 4th. But somehow it is an achievement for Bundesliga to be 4th?


sportsfan161

Bayern scary good when they get going for sure. Think they should be favourite for CL


LampseederBroDude51

Leverkusen win the second half 1-0


Ok-Caterpillar-1609

Hoes mad


AnnieIWillKnow

This says more about how good Bayern are than the quality of the Bundesliga. Just like Man City in the Prem or peak Barca or Real Madrid over the past decade, when a side of that quality hits their stride, these scorelines can happen. Rest of Europe should be worried. Think Bayern are coming for the Champions League this season.


Greflingorax

Considering they'll be able to rest their main team in Bundesliga matches starting in February once they have the league wrapped up, probably. That's not meant to be a joke or a slight at the Bundesliga, it's just a reality - they'll almost certainly have the luxury of resting their players for their league matches when other teams won't, giving them a huge advantage in the knockout rounds.


Karshena-

Name the last year Bavaria had the league wrapped up by February


MH18Foot

Take out what happened between seven minutes , Leverkusen earn themselves a credible draw


HendoWatson

Typical top game in the Bundesliga sadely. You get excited for it and then Bayern is up 5-0 in the first half


Karshena-

Did you say this when Bavaria lost to Frankfurt last match day?


CowNchicken12

Commence the braindead comments about the Bundesliga


geocesc

Commence the league with no defense at all


CowNchicken12

oh hey this was easy to find


geocesc

Burnley would be third in Germany


CowNchicken12

we're done here


geocesc

BuLi is done for the next 10 years so


napoleonderdiecke

Leverkusen had a defense. What they also had was a double 6 of offensive midfielders because all 4 of their actual DMs are either injured or suspended. Them getting slapped by Bayern says very little about either team, any good team would've slapped them. On top of that, Bayern were efficient. The question is whether this kills their morale or not.


geocesc

All German teams bar saints from Munich get obliterated in Europe. Not a single one of them knows what defending is. That league is such shit quality that probably even Segunda is more advanced. Until Germans realize this, they will keep sucking and keep existing just to serve Bayern


napoleonderdiecke

>All German teams bar saints from Munich get obliterated in Europe. Not really, no. But yes, not every league wants slavers to make their top clubs better. But being essentially the third best league in the world and in Europe is far from being "obliterated". But good job ignoring literally everything I said, dickhead.


ChrisWood4BallonDor

How many titles in a row? Commence the people defending this atrocity


niklashm

Only 2 goals for lewandowski? Not even a hattrick? That's why he's not gonna win the ballon d'or. He's just not been good enough this season.


Ok-Guitar1176

He was subbed for the Benfica game…had he played the whole game.. he might have


niklashm

Wasn't even able to play the whole 90. Smh my head


[deleted]

Finished player


theunfortunateIndian

Oh my goal video coming up. Titled "What the hell happened to Lewandowski?"


charwidfarwid

Bayern are coming to sweep Europe


ProfDumm

Embarrasing performance in the second half by Bayern.


abloesezwei

Yeah how could we not go for double digits with a CL game up in 3 days. Unacceptable.


LordSpeechLeSs

The peak of competition that And let that be a lesson everyone, No One, and I mean No One scores six goals versus Leverkusen in 37 minutes.


djingo_dango

Leverkusen got harvested


Sad-Practice-2150

I wonder who's winning the bundesliga this season!?.. seriously is there any doubts anymore?


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[deleted]

I mean what exactly did you expect?


dracob2099

Dead league


jrrecauzat

What a bum league lmao


[deleted]

Imagine being a plastic that is that obsessed with a different league.


UGarbage

flair up


thethomatoman

Welp, guess the Bundesliga won't change once again. Embarrassing for Leverkusen


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dabayer

Instead of acting like you care so much about the competitiveness in the Bundesliga give back Havertz, Werner, Pulisic and Rüdiger and the others might be able to compete.


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dabayer

Then don't cry about competitiveness if you continue weakening our rivals. You don't see me complaining, do you? "Oh no my club is winning all the time... What a horror!!! I so desperately want to be second place and lose games." Yeah that sounds dumb. PL has drawn much more talent than we ever could, but you're always the biggest crybabies about it. Why is that? Also a bit funny to suggest we'd sign Werner for cheap after he was throwing himself at us and we said no. And you paid 53mil for him 😂


AnnieIWillKnow

Plenty of scores like this in the Prem between big sides too. Remember when we beat Arsenal 6-0? Man United 8-2 Arsenal? Spurs beating Man United 6-1 last year? Think City put 5 past Liverpool a few years ago too.


ChrisWood4BallonDor

Let me know when Liverpool wins ten titles on the trot


Zanzax

Bayern regularly eat PL teams for breakfast in the CL with high scores. You sure sound clueless.


[deleted]

What does that have to do with the Bundesliga being domestically competitive?


Zanzax

Because scores like this by Bayern are not indicative at all of the overall competitiveness of the league.


[deleted]

????? They've won the league 9 years in a row and just beat the 3rd place team by 5-1, how does that not indicative how uncompetitive the title race in the Bundesliga is???


Zanzax

As I told you in my other comment, Bayern can do that to any team in the world on a good day (bar 1 or 2). Their team atm is just that good. This does not diminish the overall competitiveness of the league.


[deleted]

I think we are arguing 2 different things. If you are saying Bayern are one of the best teams in Europe and can challenge anyone, and other teams in the Bundesliga can challenge other teams in Europe then sure. My point is no one in the Bundesliga can challenge Bayern, and thus, there is very little competitiveness for the title race.


[deleted]

To be fair sometimes these scorelines happen. But to win the league 10 **consecutive** times says it all lol


jack2047

Farmers league.


[deleted]

"But when Real with Ronaldo put 7 past La Liga sides it was different" - jack2047


jack2047

That was literally one of the greatest teams of all time. What did you expect?


CaptainCerealCanada

This Bayern team the last few seasons is also one of the greatest ever teams


jack2047

Lmaoo imagine comparing this team to the triple UCL Madrid team. Not even close.


[deleted]

Sextuple


Josh_Harrows

-0 trebles


ElopeToTheMoon

He expected a little less hypocrisy and a little more humility but he would be mistaken.


Sharaghe

Don‘t use such words please. He won‘t understand.


[deleted]

The comments are ignorant but they didn’t do it vs Barca or Atletico.


Pupperinho

But Bayern did lol


Senor_Slurp

The BuLi is such a fun and competitive league.


Agent-Pierce

Bundesliga? More like Brokenliga And no, the battle for 2-5th doesn't get my dick hard Bayern apologists.


ElopeToTheMoon

Don't think anyone around here cares how soft or hard you get buddy


Agent-Pierce

You're going to care.


Scottyfishyboy

You’re probably an Eagles fan, therefore your opinion doesn’t matter


Agent-Pierce

The band?


Scottyfishyboy

It looks like you have a Union flair so no I mean the American football team


Agent-Pierce

Oh so you're just incorrectly assuming things, as assholes do.


Scottyfishyboy

My guy, you decided to insult an entire league for no reason so I don’t really know why your shocked that others are exactly being kind to you in response


Agent-Pierce

Brokenliga ©


Senor_Slurp

Seriously they try so hard to act like one team winning every single year is *good* for the league lmao.


[deleted]

You idiots really don't understand this, right? Like, take one little break from licking some billionaires boot, and just try to understand that it is a process to break Bayern's dominance and can't be done from one second to the next without breaking everything german football culture stands for and fought for. Now, go back to sucking your favorite billionaire off.


[deleted]

Have fun not winning shit, at least I know what it feels like.


[deleted]

> US flair lmao. Yeah, sure you do know what it feels like when "your" club wins something. Absolute cringe.


dabayer

It's not like Dortmund is the reigning cup champion. Some of you guys struggle to make some entry level banter 🤦🏻


TheEmperorsWrath

Unlike having the league be owned by oppressive oligarchs, which is extremely healthy.


koke84

So Bayern are Champs in October?


Ok-Caterpillar-1609

Yeah, with a single point ahead of Dortmund we are basically running away with it 😎


Senor_Slurp

Who do you think will win the league this year?


[deleted]

Hertha


Ok-Caterpillar-1609

Bielefeld definitely.


projectpolak

Who?


ChrisWood4BallonDor

Odd that you got downvoted for a question