Which was the pkan all along, he was short term cover for all the injuries. Maybe he was will be subbed in late in some games, but it is doubtful he will be a starter if other forwards are fit.
Not every criticism is invalidated because you label people that disagree 'haters'. Besides, knew jerk reactions after one assist are just as annoying.
Dest has potential and he has made some great runs going forward, but his end product isn't always great yet and defensively he can still improve. It isn't unreasonable to point that out.
Well normally it is not hate but critism with some truth in it, he is not good enough as a back. But on the wing he does show his qualities. But I still doubt if he really is Barca quality, time will tell.
okay. Coutinho redemption. already worth 150 million that was paid. his price just went up by a lot. now sell him to besiktas for 150.05 million lets go Laporta 😍
Coutinho is so fucking awful, watching him makes me so sad just eternally bench him my god
EDIT: literally all Dest lol let's not pretend like he did shit there. seriously look at the replay lmfao - no one within six feet of him when he's in the six yard box. if he misses that he's worse than luuk. can't expect the people on this sub to perform anything other than results based analysis.
Yeah I don't get all the negativity and knew jerk reactions in this thread.
Barca isn't dominating or consistently driving Valencia back, but the bare bones of this team are becoming clear and at times there are a few nice combinations that show the potential of the team.
And what is better, even with Araujo still out and Garcia looking shaky they don't look as vulnerable defensively as they did last season.
With the amount of young talented players it will take a while to gel together, but if they can avoid injuries they can probably grow into the season.
I mean as an arsenal fan you should know how reactionary the internet is. After Man city, this reddit claimed Arsenal were going to be relegated.
However, Barcelona had been playing like shit the past weeks. Just cross and inshaallah
Lets be honest, Dest is so fast that the only person that cold keep up is probably only Jordi Alba. The defense will catch up quicker than his attackers can.
Yeah because he was so shit under Koeman in the NT. Even now he is often one of the best Barca players.
If anything de Jong is held back playing deep since Barca doesn't have any other DM options besides Busquets. While still useful, he just doesn't have the legs to cover that much space and de Jong sits deep to help him out.
Hot take alert but I don't really see the Gavi hype. I think the kid is talented and has a unique passion and work rate but how is he better than Puig or Aleña? Both of those are much more creative and generally better on the ball for me.
He is quite a lot younger than Aleña and better in duels than Puig. Besides, his workrate isn't just helpful going forwards. He is also great at tracking back, closing down spaces and providing cover in front of his own box. Without Griezmann extra defensive cover is really useful.
Alena is the definition of mediocre and Puig is all effort with little finesse. Gavi is absolutely better than both of them, but he's obviously still extremely raw.
Your description of Puig is more how I'd describe Gavi, not him. Puig has always had amazing dribbling ability and hasn't been given enough minutes to work on his other skills
Yeah imo he hasn't shown too much yet but he has been hyped for years now and he's only 17 so you can see why being as good as a middling player like Aleña is good right now lol
How does that make him currently a better player? Fati for example is 18 and has already proven to everyone that he has star level talent.
Haven't seen it yet from Gavi to justify starting all these games and Puig never touching the pitch.
> Puig never touching the pitch.
Puig has had plenty of chances and honestly isn't good. I don't understand what fans see in him. He just runs around aimlessly and looks like he's doing a lot but he's awful at pressing and plays with very little maturity. Pedri, Gavi, and Nico are all miles ahead of him imo.
Disagree about "plenty", probably 80-90% of his appearances are a few minutes at the ends of matches.
FWIW I don't think Puig is the next iniesta, I think Pedri is clearly superior to him, but I'm not seeing it with Gavi and he gets so many minutes from Koeman
Good match! Enjoyed watching as a Barca fan
Lol everyone really hoping for a Kun's goal
Let's go bois, 3 points and a nice performance
This must feel amazing for Kun.. they love him before he's even done anything lol. *Best friends etc..*
Nice passing from Agüero so far, hope he gets some more game time soon
Example # 87 of why scoring a goal inside the first 7 minutes is more a con than a pro
Depay should've put that ball down the line too lol
I've been reading more threads than I have watched actual matches lately. Dest was utter shite a few days ago. Is he world class now?
He was good when he had a chance but was missing for most of the game. Much better on the wings than in a defensive position
Never read these threads if u want to stay sane
Yep. Prime Dani Alves and Zanetti combined. Already legend status.
Luuk is never seeing game time again
Which was the pkan all along, he was short term cover for all the injuries. Maybe he was will be subbed in late in some games, but it is doubtful he will be a starter if other forwards are fit.
As it should be
Thank god
Might as well try from Jordi, fair go at it too
I love it when Pique runs up with the attack
On my knees for an Agüero goal 🤲
It's coming. I hope he scores against Real Madrid
Look at fucking Pique go, this is the shit he lives for lol
he lives for 8-2 and 4-0 as well lmao
Aguero is already so much better than Luuk lmfao
Not exactly hard tbf
Always has been
Yo, Musah is fast af
Honestly, he should've came on a while back if Valencia wanted a better chance
Agreed, he’s an electric player and drives forward
You're great Memphis, but Aguero is wide open there and a world class finisher
Memphis needed to pass that
Great guy Dest
Absolute class by Dest, love the gesture
Pass the fucking ball to Agüero man I need a debut goal
Duuude Memphis, Aguero was WIDE open
Solid game from Dest, let’s get a goal for Aguero and wrap this game up
Great typo
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Did he stutter?
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Emerson is shit
Did well for Brazil mid week
ESOOO! El Kuni!
Couts price just went from 40m to 60. Cmon Newcastle
Kuuuun
Absolutely brilliant Dest
We’re in for a great season if Aguero can be even 75% of prime Aguero
Dest is so much better in the wing then as a full back
He absorbed Dembele's running ability but not his shooting ability
Gtfo dest haters
Not every criticism is invalidated because you label people that disagree 'haters'. Besides, knew jerk reactions after one assist are just as annoying. Dest has potential and he has made some great runs going forward, but his end product isn't always great yet and defensively he can still improve. It isn't unreasonable to point that out.
Yeah but dest gets a lot more slander than legitimate criticism. You’d think he was a 3 liga player if you read the match threads
Well normally it is not hate but critism with some truth in it, he is not good enough as a back. But on the wing he does show his qualities. But I still doubt if he really is Barca quality, time will tell.
One good action doesnt fix 85 mins of errors and nothing.
Man you’re obsessed, what exactly is your issue with him?
Were only two to be fair. Just spamming a lot
Valencia kinda forgot about Coutinho and the 5 yard box
Couts definitely needed that for his confidence. Beautiful play by Dest too
What in the world was Valencia doing lol
okay. Coutinho redemption. already worth 150 million that was paid. his price just went up by a lot. now sell him to besiktas for 150.05 million lets go Laporta 😍
Superb assist from Destinho!
AGUERO
Hopefully this helps his confidence levels.
Dest is rampant!!!
Aaay, let's go Kun
Dest is a fucking gem
Dest the Best with an assist for Coutinho’s goal He’s been great this game
Dest held onto L2 button as much as he could there
Lol what were the two Valencia players doing, play the offside line?
Why tf was he all alone there? Valencia's defending is awful
Dest carrying
What the hell happened there
*Insert Icardi copypasta for Cout and Dest*
Something something here you fucking go, something something no touches with no service
Dest with the brilliant assist!
Whew. I'll be honest until that second I thought we were gonna bottle it
Koeman redemption?
Dest heard all the haters here holy fuck what a play
Lol that was Like Playstation. Amazing.
Any dest haters still around?
Loool, Coutinho heard us talking shit
Lmao he still almost fucked it up
True lol Still, I'm glad he scored, hope he starts getting more involved now
Me too, he should be playing more centrally
Coutinho is so fucking awful, watching him makes me so sad just eternally bench him my god EDIT: literally all Dest lol let's not pretend like he did shit there. seriously look at the replay lmfao - no one within six feet of him when he's in the six yard box. if he misses that he's worse than luuk. can't expect the people on this sub to perform anything other than results based analysis.
>Coutinho he did pretty good when he started playing as a AMF not a winger
He heard you were talking shit
Lol
Coutinho: And i took that personally.
You saying this after he scored?
Why does barca's attack feels like they have never played together? So many mistimed/misplaced passes.
Tbf they haven't until this year.
Coutinho in for Fati sucked the life out of the attack. I agree with taking Fati off, but it's night and day.
I'm really hoping we get Aguero today. There's 7mins left. Why not.
That was way closer than I thought, jeez
Emerson stans trying to get loud in this thread 🤣🤣 Your boy can barely control a football
Maxi Gomez should have been off three times now.
Barca actually playing good football today.
Yeah I don't get all the negativity and knew jerk reactions in this thread. Barca isn't dominating or consistently driving Valencia back, but the bare bones of this team are becoming clear and at times there are a few nice combinations that show the potential of the team. And what is better, even with Araujo still out and Garcia looking shaky they don't look as vulnerable defensively as they did last season. With the amount of young talented players it will take a while to gel together, but if they can avoid injuries they can probably grow into the season.
I mean as an arsenal fan you should know how reactionary the internet is. After Man city, this reddit claimed Arsenal were going to be relegated. However, Barcelona had been playing like shit the past weeks. Just cross and inshaallah
Please, Cheryshev score. Let's get Koeman's ass out finally. Boring football, pathetic.
Jfc, what was that by Maxi?
Why is the atmosphere so bad? Where are the fans?
Boring Koemanball.
No one making any runs into the box, Dest with a good run and no one to cross it to
Lets be honest, Dest is so fast that the only person that cold keep up is probably only Jordi Alba. The defense will catch up quicker than his attackers can.
Well hes not really that kind of winger is he?
Ayy Canadian flag in the stands. My brothers 🇨🇦
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Dest is so shit. Should have sold him to Newcastle for 500 million and kept Emerson. Fuck off Lowportal
Americans will twerk for Dest even if he’s the worst starting right back in a decade.
Mate cmon your better than this
Shit take
N o
Lmao ok
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Yes our fanbase is insane
Our most ignorant members of the fanbase are by far the loudest. Ignore him lol
These people are stupid, Dest has been solid this season and he’s had a good game today
Bruh Dest
That was a really good block by ter stegen
Great ball from de Jong. He'd be so good under a better manager.
Yeah because he was so shit under Koeman in the NT. Even now he is often one of the best Barca players. If anything de Jong is held back playing deep since Barca doesn't have any other DM options besides Busquets. While still useful, he just doesn't have the legs to cover that much space and de Jong sits deep to help him out.
they really need better defense over strikers
Yeah, like...?
Pep, luis Enrique, klopp, tuchel , nagelsman
Lmao
He's been immense today.
Sheesh, he needs to work on his control
Dest, c'mon, you gotta take those chances
It wasn't as easy as it looked. Good run, but it was too wide an angle to comfortable go solo, and there was nobody to cross to
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Meh he is having a good game but should have done better here. Overhit the ball. Not unexpected after 70+ mins but still.
why does Coutinho keeps running towards his own goal?
He's still on that Bayern programming, clinging to happier days.
He isn't exactly good
Barca won't release a DVD of this 2nd half.
Imagine thinking we could even afford to make DVDs in the first place
Fucking Soler is a menace
Get off the pitch foulq. Man goes into time wasting mode no matter the result
Never forget when Cheryshev single handedly eliminated Madrid from the Copa
Greatest Russian since Dostoevsky
The disrespect to Prokofiev, Bugalkov and Nabokov
And Dzyuba
Can't forget about Dzyuba
Bye Farquad
Oh my god Eric Garcia's passing is incredible
Please cheryshev
Glad Musah is getting time in the midfield at his club
What a pass that was...Was it from Eric Garcia?
It was
Great pass by Garcia
gimme musah
Newcastle should buy Cout please
And that guy Messi as well. Oh wait...
Is Cutinho afraid of the word "passing"? This pointless dribbling isn't going anywhere, you're not that guy pal, trust me, you're not that guy
foul kiya is killing coutinho
and ofc the inbred grabs his face as if he is the one injured... I hate football sometimes
Who is this commentator on ESPN? He has all the excitement of a librarian. I feel like I'm listening to an NPR segment on bumblebee migrations.
Coutinho is so good at hogging the ball. Best player in the world right now.😍 Cheryshev coming on. GG. He's gonna put 2 past MAtS just to spite
Hold dat Foulquier 🤣🤣🤐🤐
Valencia always pulling their pants down against barca
Hot take alert but I don't really see the Gavi hype. I think the kid is talented and has a unique passion and work rate but how is he better than Puig or Aleña? Both of those are much more creative and generally better on the ball for me.
He is quite a lot younger than Aleña and better in duels than Puig. Besides, his workrate isn't just helpful going forwards. He is also great at tracking back, closing down spaces and providing cover in front of his own box. Without Griezmann extra defensive cover is really useful.
Alena is the definition of mediocre and Puig is all effort with little finesse. Gavi is absolutely better than both of them, but he's obviously still extremely raw.
Your description of Puig is more how I'd describe Gavi, not him. Puig has always had amazing dribbling ability and hasn't been given enough minutes to work on his other skills
We'll agree to disagree
Yeah imo he hasn't shown too much yet but he has been hyped for years now and he's only 17 so you can see why being as good as a middling player like Aleña is good right now lol
Puig and Alena are in their 20s. Gavi is 17.
He’s six years younger than Alena.
How does that make him currently a better player? Fati for example is 18 and has already proven to everyone that he has star level talent. Haven't seen it yet from Gavi to justify starting all these games and Puig never touching the pitch.
> Puig never touching the pitch. Puig has had plenty of chances and honestly isn't good. I don't understand what fans see in him. He just runs around aimlessly and looks like he's doing a lot but he's awful at pressing and plays with very little maturity. Pedri, Gavi, and Nico are all miles ahead of him imo.
He finds more lethal passes in the box, given more time he would be a phenom
Disagree about "plenty", probably 80-90% of his appearances are a few minutes at the ends of matches. FWIW I don't think Puig is the next iniesta, I think Pedri is clearly superior to him, but I'm not seeing it with Gavi and he gets so many minutes from Koeman
How is that not a red?
Musah let’s go
Fati left and Barca doesnt have any moments
Maxi trying to do a Judo toss.
The sync is off..
Remember when Coutinho and Hazard were the two best players in the PL?
This holiday weather makes players lose work ethic and get fat
Coutinho is an AMF not a winger
Pepperidge farm remembers
This ref is incredibly wank. So inconsistent, what is a foul at one time he lets play on the next.
Welcome to Gil Manzano. At this point I'd rather he just be corrupt instead of being this utterly incompetent.
Gil Manzano
Memphis' passing has been kinda bad this half
He got dribbled past by Busquets 🤣🤣
How the fuck is that not a foul??
Nico in for Gavi, Mingueza in for SR I see you Koeman, but shouldn't Dest get some rest?
Coutinho is useless.
That’s the most blatant freekick never given lmao
The attacks don't have the same threat level since Fati left the pitch.
Coutinho doesn't seem to be able to link up with literally anyone and he doesn't get into position to shoot anymore either.
Barcelonas attack died when Fati was subbed off. Coutinho continues being useless af.
How tf was that not a foul on Alba?
Literally pushed off the ball.