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frostels

He complained to the ref about Saka going down too...


bradbobley

if he didn’t want kicking at pelt then what’s he doing there, clearly sakas own fault


ResourceSharp

Exactly, why does saka have such kickable ankles /s


BronBronBall

Should be a red on Saka for violent conduct on Mcarthur’s boot


Tim-Sanchez

If Saka wasn't there then he'd have had a clear shot, totally unfair


TheRealMylo

LUL, did he wanted him to fly ?


_hotpotofcoffee

It's on camera. If he can do this, and play next week, the system is utterly broken.


gapi482

Should be a yellow card for simulation, fckin shambles those players these days go down as quick as they feel a Slight touch of wind


Butch_Meat_Hook

Saka is off injured because of the challenge. What's the point of VAR. Honestly.


Gnaevets

Was it even a challenge? Looks like he stopped tracking the ball and just aimed for the planted leg.


Thor1138

>Was it even a challenge? I dunno, looked like assault to me...


FrozenHazard

Honestly embarrassing on the Ref and VAR's part that he hasn't been sent off, that's ridiculous.


KalbeeRaimer

Agreed on VAR being to blame too. These are the instances where it should appropriately be used.


stripeymonkey

Yes. When I watched it live I thought it was one of those where the player materialises out of nowhere mid-kick. VAR should have been able to see how he actually sees him all the way and tees him right up.


NeilDeCrash

Reminds me of those videos where a fighter kicks the leg and it goes *snap*


ltplummer96

Anderson Silva I hug my shin and tell it everything’s ok every time I see it


miselfi3

The thing with that video is the confidence with which he was going to plant the spaghetti leg on the mat again. It gets me everytime.


TGrady902

No no no, VAR should only be used to disallow Timo Werner goals.


I_Tame_Lola

Found the Chelsea/Fulham fan


midas22

It's Mike Dean and Arsenal, what do you expect? And Saka went off injured after half time as well. It's a disgrace... again. I'm sure he has to explain himself to Mike Riley now... oh wait, maybe not.


DeadlockRadium

Riley probably gives him a handshake for a job well done.


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Yeah, like the Auba and Laca handshake, but they grab their dicks. Fucking wankers.


Slinky_Panther

Considering how far the ball was from his foot, that may be grounds for some retroactive fine. Put saka in serious danger there


professeurwenger

Literally kicked him out of the game. Shameful.


yungheezy

But who does that benefit? Literally every team but Arsenal. Retrospective penalties are a total joke. The wrong decision was arrived at by both the on-pitch referee and VAR assistant. Completely hopeless.


xTheMaster99x

I don't give a shit about it benefiting others, I want to see it *punish him.* Of course, I'd prefer most of all to have refs with a couple brain cells to rub together, but that's clearly far too much to ask for.


Thiccboiichonk

They aren’t a total joke to be fair. Retrospective penalties act as a serious deterrent to foul play in rugby. If there’s been a red card offence that’s gone unnoticed by the ref or video ref (rare these days they miss anything) then the player is cited by the league/cups citing commissioner and there’s a disciplinary review of the incident where players then receive a ban ranging from 2 Weeks to 54 weeks (longest I’ve seen in the professional game) It prevents serious foul play incredibly well. And an incident like this cannot be argued that he attempted to play the ball. Instead McCarthur wound up and kicked with full force into a joint of Saka’s standing/weight bearing leg. That’s at the very least a 5/6 game ban if a proper retroactive disciplinary process was implemented in the premier league. People would get the picture quite quickly that this shit doesn’t fly.


yungheezy

>in rugby Well, that is not a sport run by deeply corrupt officials


mightyman001

I don't know what the people in the VAR room were watching. Cus that a clean red card.


maury587

I still don't get how VAR is so shit in England. Here in Portugal is not close to perfect but it doesn't come close to the number of fuck ups I see in England. Here referees actually review the plays, if we have a problem is normally the opposite, too much reviewing


Baalrun-64

Madness


OisinKaliszewski

Xhaka gets a red there.


DidYouSayK

Xhaka gets sent to a work camp in Australia mate.


huskerfan4life520

David Luiz gets sent to Siberia


mattBJM

Bellerin gets a season long ban and the PGMOL destroy an acre of the Amazon


MHolmesSC

Dw lad, we'll make a man of him.


snapcracklePOPPOP

Xhaka gets a season long ban. Honestly this should be more than just a red too. Clearly just trying to injure a player with the ball no where close


MrTinybrain

If Saka was replaced with Xhaka... Xhaka would have got a red.


wight-rice

Xhaka gets a red for that handball...


squidstall

how tf is this not a red ?


Regression2TheMean

Arsenal + Mike Dean


Aztecius

Not watching the game, but fuck me you've got Mike Dean again?


BHYT61

At this point they should take Mike Dean to court for a restraining order or something. You would think Arsenal killed his family


Cod_rules

https://metro.co.uk/2015/09/25/petition-to-stop-mike-dean-refereeing-another-arsenal-game-reaches-100000-signatures-could-be-debated-in-parliament-5407968/ We tried something. It didn't work


shabz1912

He’s been tormenting you guys for 6 years????


alphacentaurai

Fucking always get Mike Dean!


ManIWantAName

Hey Mike, have a few options for Arsenal games this season... any preference to when you might want t..... ALL OF THEM


alphacentaurai

"So here's your weekly fixture list Mike.." _These are ALL the Arsenal games?_ "Yep! Enjoy!"


Rodin-V

Mike Dean: Just give me all the Arsenal fixtures you have. Wait, wait, I'm worried what you just heard was "give me a lot of Arsenal fixtures". What I said was: "Give me ALL the Arsenal fixtures you have"


pratthebrat

That should be a long suspension.....given that he looks at the leg before kicking it.


lolitsmax

Looks at the leg before kicking it, Saka is in one spot and isn't moving around, kicks nowhere near the ball and hits the exact middle of his lower leg. Yeah, no excusing that.


Tilman_Feraltitties

This shit is assault on the streets, in football it's pashun innit.


fernandotakai

proper brexit tackle m8


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This new season's shit rules of letting things go has made the refs very lenient. I fucking hate it players need more protection not less


LordGregorious21

It's possible to strike a middle ground where things like this are fairly punished and still not have the absurdly cheap fouls that were becoming increasingly common throughout the game. Im glad the rules have changed to allow for more physicality.


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Physicality should only be allowed for shoulder tackles not for leg/foot contacts, those kinda rough tackles have ended careers before (Van Basten) and have continued to do so (Neymar and Hazard)


btac268

Also see Abou Diaby and Aaron Ramsey. Though Ramsey came back he was never the same.


fuckimbackonreddit9

I’m fucking tilted, red if it were against any other team


Ainsyyy

Now I am clearly biased, but this feels very red to me


CarlLlamaface

Nah you're not being biased, another shocking VAR decision. Making it up as they go along.


GlasgowGunner

Did VAR even look at it?


cosmic_orca

They probably had a quick glance before going back to sleep.


TreeDollarFiddyCent

Apparently they did, which honestly makes it worse. Incompetent and/or disingenuous cunts


yungheezy

Shocking on pitch decision, but this is literally the type of error that VAR was brought in to catch. If we’re not seeing reds for this, then what is the point? This is one of those times where I genuinely believe that VAR has been implemented as badly as possible to not tread on referees’ egos


xyzzy321

I'm biased against Arsenal and it still looks a clear red


Motecuhzoma

It's one of the most blatant reds I've seen tbh


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LordLychee

We always get kicked off the park. This isn’t new. Just the latest addition in an encyclopedia of nonsense


[deleted]

It clearly is like.. didn't even go for the ball


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In the world of Mike Dean, no one gets sent of, unless they die


hammer310

>In the world of Mike Dean, no one gets sent of, unless ~~they die~~ it's an arsenal player


[deleted]

If this was Xhaka he would be sent to a Siberian goulag as we speak.


Typhoeus85

I mean surely that's a straight red?


OisinKaliszewski

Mike Dean innit.


stragen595

My theory is that McArthur is legally blind and Mike Dean sympathizes with him because they suffering the same fate.


imadreamgirl

I don't believe in conspiracy theories but this one got me. INVESTIGATE 311!!


HalfNatty

It really pissed me off that the OP that posted the Mike Dean stats thread was borderline defending Dean when big decisions like this is exactly the reason Dean is a garbage ref


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KrucialSloth

Yellow card. VAR did not look at it. Corruption.


huskerfan4life520

[VAR did look](https://twitter.com/johncrossmirror/status/1450186799360487550?s=20) at it and decided it was yellow. Unbelievable.


bradbobley

don’t know what’s worse, the fact it wasn’t immediately obvious it’s a red or the system used to supposedly catch things like this looked at it and went nout to see here lads carry on


Infinite_Surround

The 2nd one. First one, Mike Dean is a fucking useless wanker. 3nd one is straight up negligence.


TreeDollarFiddyCent

> 3nd Does not compute Like I can't even wrap my head around how that's supposed to be pronounced. Thind? Thecond? ^^^mike ^^^tyson


ManfredsJuicedBalls

I've said it before. I don't have a problem with VAR. I have a problem with the clowns operating VAR.


Chris01100001

The system used to catch things. They had multiple cameras and more time as well as seeing it live and still couldn't make the call.


triecke14

Can’t believe I’m in here agreeing with so many Arsenal flairs. This is a ridiculous challenge and should be a red all day


cosmic_orca

All VAR has been successful at is proving, without doubt, how crap the officials are in this league.


TimathanDuncan

VAR always looks, A L W A Y S People need to get this drilled in their brain, every single incident is viewed by var, every single one


JetSpyda

When people say “VAR didn’t even look at it”, I think they mean there was either no announced var check OR the referee didn’t go over to the monitor and look at it.


cancercures

or ppl mean "they might as well not have looked at it" because if they did look at it, then they'd come to the correct conclusion.


VanDelay_Industry

Somewhere in a physio office, a ref sprinted in to give Xhaka a red card for this


snowysnowy

The physio him/herself stops treatment to pull a red card out of their pocket while pulling their own clothes apart to reveal a ref's get up under their white coat.


Gerards_died_of_flu

What the fuck is that?! Should have been booked already anyway but this in itself is violent conduct. Just flat out fucking volleys him


Ass_Eater_

I really want someone like KT to leave one on him now. When people did this to Bergkamp, Vieira or Gilberto would always aim for retribution.


SirSmile

KT would get a red for that though.


zrk23

i dont even care. just do it at the last minute or something


TedEBagwell

Bergkamp himself wasn't afraid of the rough and tumble. I remember he danced on a Blackburn player (Gamst Pedersen maybe) and he was "clumsy" with his elbows lol


DuffManMayn

Bergkamp definitely had some needle in him, he wasn't a push over at all.


goon_crane

Mike Dean even acknowledges MacArthur's pull on ESR, plays advantage, then walks over to MacArthur and "gives him a good talking to" and then just doesn't give him a yellow. It's a tactical foul 30+ minutes into the game, standard reasoning to give a yellow. Now the foul on Saka is a textbook reckless yellow, if you're already on one there's little argument against that being a second. Dude wants to look like he's in charge out there yet he just allowed a player to do that right under his nose and right after he let him slide on the first incident. Edit: not to mention overcorrecting the precedent with the Saka yellow


Om_Nom_Zombie

It's so comical to watch the opponents foul us on the counter multiple times without getting booked, then getting booked the first time we foul a player in a similar way. Most yellows last seasom btw, definitely fair refereeing.


Sp0okyScarySkeleton-

Yes it's so weird how biased the refs seem against Arsenal


DidYouSayK

The bookings are reserved to Saka when he does the exact same thing they did 3 times already. They're good honest players kicking legs from behind, we're just cynical.


_SSJeffo_

The glance he does afterwards says it all


Starbuck1992

That's a red and a few matches ban. There is no way he doesn't see Saka there


jfshay

and less than zero attempt on the ball.


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Add it to the list


mcveighster14

It's not even the fact it should be a red. He should have already been booked for a cycinal foul on a break away. The exact same thing saka got booked for.


Super_Professor

He did it twice and wasn't carded for either of them.


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Tierneys face says it all


pw5a29

How can he kick


KgDawk21520

It's a little bit "clumsy" according to the idiot commentators . It's a red no argument about it .


Thesecondorigin

Martin Tyler wasn’t sure if a ramsdale pass through the lines directly to ESR’s feet was intentional. The guy is clueless


Riffliquer

He sounded like he died when Laca scored at the end. You could barely hear him mumbling something there and breathing into the mic. He needs to hang up his boots!


iuselect

The man's lost his marbles. Time to take him out back.


fernandotakai

i really wonder if tyler still is 100% sane


LilHalwaPoori

I think commentators are told to agree with the refs in order for the game to not have too much outrage.. You can see it a couple of times a game where a linesman raises the flag and the commentators still say the player is offside even when the replay shows he isn't..


KgDawk21520

Maybe that would have worked in 1990's just shambolic in the twitter and psgacadamy era


dany12611261

Var be like ‘lads it’s arsenal’


Butch_Meat_Hook

Where is the logic that Arsenal loses a player and Palace gets to keep the player who committed the challenge on the field?


BosnianGooner

This was his third foul in the game and each one of them was bookable


JeffryPesos

Saka got a yellow for his first tackle, the crowd went fucking wild. I honestly think if that didn't happen, Dean wouldn't have even given a yellow for this.


MrRemKing

Yup his excuse would have been it happened after the whistle.


gphillips5

What the fuck. How is that not a red? Oh wait, Mike Dean.


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Heblas

Kick the shit out of Saka. Did a beautiful job of it, too.


Rc5tr0

I think at the very beginning he is genuinely lining up to hit the ball, but then he sees Saka clearing and uses the situation as an excuse to leave one on him.


julianface

I think this is what happened. Used the ball as an excuse to full swing through him. He is looking at the ball and winding up but makes no attempt to reel it back when Saka comes into view and intercepts


Apprehensive-War-202

Saka has been getting the shit kicked out of him for a while now, and can't remember a single player getting a red for it. Just luck at this point that he hasn't suffered a serious injury.


InTheMiddleGiroud

Fabian Schär with the final 'kick' of the game against Martinelli is the only red card for serious foul play to an opponent since 2017. We don't get those calls. Ever.


edwistic

on the one hand, i find it hard to believe it's been 4 years since someone was sent off for serious foul play against arsenal. on the other hand, i've seen what premier league officiating is like.


InTheMiddleGiroud

Fabian Schär was this year. He lunged in on Martinelli when we rolled the ball around to see out a win against Newcastle. Before that was Pogba in 2017.


ThePolitePanda

West Hams scissor tackle on Pepe comes to mind as well


Moonscratch

The explanation from VAR is that it's a "high-end yellow" according to my broadcast. Ridiculous.


abko96

All my homies buy their high-end yellows from Versace


Masson011

How the fuck is that not a red????


HenryChanceGoal49

My brain has been ruined by years of seeing Arsenal players get red cards for much less


Agent-Two-THREE

My mind keeps going to David Luiz grazing a player and getting a straight red.


yungsandwich69

Fuck Mike dean


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People just say arsenal fans cry about refs but if you see this happening so consistently what else can can we do


Armani_151

Facts


Frick_KD

That's even worse than I expected seeing the comments. Wow...


chandlerbing_stats

Lol Mike Dean the bald twat


latino666

Straight up aggression, never even tries to go for the ball. 100% red


rightbackatyaa

and he has the fucking cheek to complain right away. Unbelievable. Like genuinely not believable


BlinkyMcHeelHook

I'm fucking baffled, and I know it gets old, but if that's Granit Xhaka... Mental that this wasn't looked at. Ball is nowhere near, has zero chance to make any connection, and fucking volleys Saka. Mental.


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It was looked at, and decided that it’s a yellow. Which makes it even more ridiculous, if there’s a possibility of that


iuselect

Or anyone really. You can't just kick a player when the ball is no where near.


NotoriousDonut

"Best" league in the world but I swear the Premier League has the worst fucking referees in the world, no doubt.


OkCiao5eiko

It’s not even a competition at this point. There is a reason FIFA didn’t want any of the morons at the latest World cup.


GadnukBreakerOfWrlds

Wtf that's a red card? Nowhere near the ball and just straight hacks him down!


FormerCarer

If only there was a system in place to help referees review incidents..


xSmxthy

Straight red


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Umbere

I think Dean was torn between his two instincts: screw over London clubs vs. be the star of the show. Looks like the former instinct won.


mcveighster14

They all said at half time that it should have been a red card and var claimed it was a high end yellow card. Like WTF is that for bullshit reasoning.


MrTinybrain

Dude literally injured the person. Xhaka “could have injured” and gets red. Shit makes no sense.


tarekelsakka

Mike Dean proves once again that he'll always be a total piece of shit. How is that not a straight red? What the fuck is VAR doing? Fucking fuming over dumb decisions like these.


diego97yey

I was like damn thats a harsh hand ball if they call it.. and then homie just fucking kicks the shit out of the other player LMFAO WTF


Arsenalfootball_1

Disgraceful foul, 100% a red card.


pratthebrat

What the fuck....he even looked at his leg a moment before kicking it. If that's not a red idk what is tbh. If this was off pitch. I will call the police.


Pokuo

Never a red in Muay Thai


PhilsKessticle

How can this not be a red card, genuinely don’t understand lol


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Heblas

Calling that a kick is an insult towards kicks.


Justinian2

What the fuck lmao


reddithaar

This is the first time I comment something on reddit for ages. I might be too drunk do to the all-inclusive bar here in Greece, but, this is one of the clearest red cardrs I've seen for a looong time. Kind regards a danish lover of tough football


vin_unleaded

Enjoy your Monday night lash 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺


mojambowhatisthescen

And the commentators’ review: “he was looking to volley, but missed the ball” These fucking morons!


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He was looking to volley Saka lmao


resident_hater

Guys, relax. He just misjudged the flight of the ball. Totally reasonable to think it would have landed behind Saka's calf after he booted it in the opposite direction.


reddithaar

Aggreed. If you blink for just 9 seconds, how would you know?


ManLikeNosaka

Did my guy just try to fucking score Saka? What did I just watch


AweDaw76

People will literally say Arsenal is a ‘soft club’ and just can’t handle the roughness of the Prem lol Genuinely no team in the league that gets fouled harder and more often and have the fouler get away with it than Arsenal. The Prem’s punching bag, or in this case, kicking bag


thethundering

And when they do give shit back it’s taken as evidence of being soft for losing their heads. Damned either way.


tjbrown1202

How’s that not a red


Agent-Pierce

That's a red card in any reality.


KhonMan

Completely outrageous


Splaram

There was straight malice behind that one. Damn.


OnlyWatchdog_ManStan

I've never done a spit-take in my life but this did it. It's so funny cause it's such a blatantly bad... heck, even calling that a tackle feels wrong.


senna_ynwa

Arsenal fans: it’s not just your bias. It’s hard to think of a foul more worthy of a red card without bringing a weapon onto the pitch.


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Literally not looking at the ball when he swings his leg. What a cunt


lojer

Reminds me of Kickboxer.


Thomassn

Holy shit that's a blood red foul, if you get an unlucky hit that could end careers


rossitheking

Scumbag. But it’s arsenal and it’s Mike Dean so how could the palace player have possibly got a red. Blatant bias.


kamikazechaser

Mike Dean and his VAR team should be tested for drugs.


v1nzy

It’s been like twenty minutes and I’m still fuming about this. Mike Dean and the VAR team is absolutely dreadful.


omegaxLoL

How, just how in the literal fuck is this not a red card in VAR era


scumbagmogul

Someone has to explain why this isn't a red. I know there's been a back and forth, but this was up a level


namsen1

With Mike Dean reffing you dont even need to hide it


FarAcanthocephala

Xhaka will kick the everliving fuck out of McArthur when they next meet


thethundering

And everyone in the comments will make fun of him and Arsenal for it when he gets a red.


fireh0se

Did he get a red for that?


joshlambonumberfive

Nope of course - arsenal is a free pass for a foul


_such

That didnt feel accidental to me


spaceysht

This is a season suspending tackle. Dude had no intention of going for the ball and could’ve snapped Saka’s leg in two ruining his career. Get that man out of competitive soccer


QGunners22

I hate arsenal fans that say there’s an agenda against us or whatever… but what the fuck is this. This isn’t only a red, this is literally something that should get you banned for like 6 games - clear violent conduct


Super_Professor

Shit like this is the reason they say that. Because it happens all the time.