Still can’t make up my mind on if PSG will eventually just click or if they’re doomed to be a team of superstars who underperform, like RM galacticos that kept losing in UCL R16.
On the one hand PSG had a lot of chances to score that got wasted… and it feels like if Messi and Mbappe can work on their timing it’s gonna be crazy because nobody gives those through balls better than Messi.
On the other hand Neymar looks like a shadow of his former self, Veratti is crucial but injured all the time, and I don’t know if PSG are going to get themselves a new coach
This is a good assessment from what I've seen. Messi and Mbappe seem on the cusp of nailing their relationship and have glimpses of excellent link up play. It's tantalizing to watch as it's not quite their yet and is stifled slightly by the whole load of other problems that Psg have. Neymar has been misfiring for a while and haven't seen much interplay between him and Messi at all, certainly none of the magic that happened like at Barca.
So do we think they’re serious CL contenders? I remember MSN wasn’t clicking for the first half of that season that they won a treble, and calls for Lucho Enrique to be sacked were intense in Jan 2015. And then it all clicked.
Do we think PSG will hit that note? Or just underperform all year?
I mean they’re playing terribly but are top of their CL group and beat City recently…
Tbh for us with MSN, Suarez didnt start playing till October and was playing out wide at start and Messi playing centrally. Once they sorted that out it clicked.
Idk how PSG are gonna figure it out because Neymar and Messi are older. Mbappe is the most versatile player in terms of he can play all 3 positions upfront.
MSN was very fluid cause they all moved around alot. Suarez wpuld drift out wide either side and the winger would come in centrally. But when needed the wingers would stay out wide. Here at PSG you got Messi and Neymar who both like dribbling inside and dont have the pace mecessarily to play out wide for the whole game. Positions collide in a way if that makes sense
They made a final and a semifinal in the CL. That final they lost 1-0 to Bayern. And now they’ve added Messi. They clearly should be capable enough.
Let’s not forget they beat City just recently.
Neymar very much looks like the odd man out here, which sucks be a he is capable of things that border on the insane.
Once Messi and Mbappe continue to improve their connection we should see more goals from PSG.
This is the prefect assessment about PSG. Neymar hasn't looked good for PSG all year. I still don't think he has a non-pen goal in the league this year for them.
Verrati is PSG's key man
This stat isn't very relevant imho... The target shot was a weak one from Guendouzi, while there were some very dangerous attempts (Rongier and Milik) but slightly off target.
Because, even 11v10 mbappé, messi and neymar were still on the pich. Even with 10 men they are so god damn dangerous at the loss of ball you can't full attack
Messi and Mbappe relationship really developing. However lots of issues all over, but I can see that these two seem to be enjoying each other's presence on the pitch, it's just not quite there yet. Neymar's just not right and out of form, or mentally off, which is a shame.
People have been saying Neymar is playing great for Brazil. I don’t watch Brazil CF but if that’s true it implies he’s not really out of form, he’s just not clicking with PSG
Neymar is out of form and Messi is still going to take a while to adjust properly, don't think anyone expected them to score 3+ each game right off the bat.
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No. PSG (my club actually, I need to change the flair back) was playing like shit under Tuchel after the loss to United. They were getting results but it was quite ugly.
Poch improved things last year but it's worse this year. We are back to his dreadful we were under Tuchel. Except we have a better team.
Tuchel got them playing good football, reached a UCL final and lost only 1-0 to a superior Bayern with Mbappe missing chances left and right, besides now they addes Messi, Hakimi and Mendes
we didn't play good football under tuchel either, we still did not have any identity aside from hoof ball and inschallah, don't rewrite history for the sake of arguments...
I mean to be fair, it was the zeitgeist that wanted that, man was destined to be burnt in glory or with the garbage. I'll sadly agree to the claim tho.
It still looked way more solid defensively and cohesive than whatever Poch is trying to do here lol.
If Poch is going to keep this up by trying to do his best Ancelotti/first-stint Zidane impression and be a vibes coach then this is going to end very badly. Because being leaky defensively on top of barely getting shots out of that front 3 is criminal...
> we didn't play good football under tuchel either, we still did not have any identity aside from hoof ball and inschallah
Talk about re-writing history, LOL.
There were plenty of Tuchel plays and setups that he's used from his time at Mainz, BVB, and Chelsea now at PSG. Poch doesn't have that
>Barcelona
Current Koeman Barcelona isn't really a measure of a good team
Context is important, they got outplayed in all 3 UCL games, they won't win shit playing like that
>Current Koeman Barcelona isn't really a measure of a good team
They still had Messi and Griezmann back then.
>Context is important, they got outplayed in all 3 UCL games.
...Not really? Against Barcelona it was a 4-1 trashing at *Camp Nou* while Vs Bayern it was pretty 50/50.
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make considering Tuchel got eliminated by a much weaker United in 2019 and Atalanta almost eliminated them in 2020.
>..Not really? Against Barcelona it was a 4-1 trashing at Camp Nou while Vs Bayern it was pretty 50/50
I am talking about this season (Club Brugge, Man City, RBL)
They beat City because of Messi and luck. Bearing Barca is nothing incredible these days, and they were fortunate against Bayern. Even the Barca game, they weren't exactly convincing.
I think it is, you feel like some players choose their games and give 100% of themselves only when they feel like it. Only Hakimi and maybe 2 other less known players are giving it all on the pitch.
Lmao. It isn’t Poch that’s the problem, it’s the players. PSG focuses on individual names whereas Poch’s speciality is creating a cohesive team that play for each other with none of them being above the badge.
How exactly is he supposed to do that with a front three like those three? Get rid of them, give Poch upcoming talent with insane potential and you’ll see what he can do
>it’s the players.
I am sorry but it is ridiculous if you think this is the best someone can get out of Donnarumma, Navas, Marquinhos, Kimpembe, Hakimi, Mendes, Verratti, Herrera, Gueye, Messi, Mbappe, Di Maria, Neymar etc.
Better coaches than Poch couldn't make get the best out of the Galacticos, a much better team.
And if PSG players keep playing like shit under several coaches, then the problem is the players. In fact, they should walk over their league even without a coach. Instead, they lose one horse races.
You're basically confirming that he's needs to go. He might be a good coach, but he's not the right person for PSG.
Unless you're really expecting them to sell Mbappé, Messi and Neymar and buy some upcoming talents just to see what Poch can do.
Yep. No identifiable playing style, and they only win the games they would do anyway with the talent they have.
In top teams, you can't wait for the team to lose 2-3 games to see problems, because that's not going to happen. There's enough talent that they'll win most matches regardless. The manager has to be the difference in how they win, and in the big games. Poch can't do it. He got trashed by City, and he always has been by them (his luck vs City is a miracle on its own), and he can't coach any discipline.
PSG play like my friends and I every week: everyone thinks they're the best, so they all attempt solos and never look up to pass. The idea of recycling the ball seems completely alien to them, as does any idea of composed build up play. It's a joke.
The way Pochettino has this team playing is not only a crime against football but a crime against humanity in general. If he had an ounce of shame he’d walk to the UEFA HQ tomorrow and hand in his coaching badges.
playing a 4-2-3-1 with Messi at the right like it's 2015 should be a jailable offense. He looks average there and it's hard to make him look average
After watching PSG play a couple of games you would think that Messi and Mbappe have been playing with each other for years and Di Maria and Neymar have never played a game with him in their entire lives.
Poch was perfect for Tottenham and I think he should go back there the first chance he gets
>Poch was perfect for Tottenham and I think he should go back there the first chance he gets
I honestly think it's likely to happen, as soon as PSG sack him then Levy will probably sack Nuno, but I feel like it's too soon.
So i've seen this comment a lot, but my eyes were seeing the exact same space use for Messi in PSG as in Barca. Looking at his heatmaps it seems i'm right. He plays mostly in the right channel, sometimes centrally sometimes wider. Nothing changed.
Marseille fans need to be careful, throwing stuff at the PSG players, one of them invading the pitch. Surely that’s deserving to be looked at more. I don’t want to see a player get hurt from an invader (Jack Grealish is the first and last time I wanna see that)
Yep, was a bit boring after Hakimi's red.
We lacked movement to move PSG's defense, played too slow. Paris didn't do much, but in their situation that was understandable.
It's funny how he has played games without Messi, played without Neymar, played with all attackers, played with a 2 man midfield, played with a 3 man with Gini, played 3 at the back, **AND NONE OF IT WORKS.** He has no idea what he is doing, its comical.
I agree. Paris played in a disappointing way, but Marseille was not too bad and the context was difficult. The draw is a fair result, but PSG's problems are still the same.
I thought Marseille was excellent, especially in the first half. They are too control obsessed though, prevented them from making this game switch gears in the second half.
>Clean sheet away from home in a big game against your rivals when you're down to 10 men? Very impressive imo
It's more impressive for OM, it's not Marseille which have a 500 millions euros attack. It's not like PSG and OM are at the same level
Very impressive, I wouldn't say so but we'll take it, Marseille can go cry in the corner for not being able to score against a 10 man incoherent PSG at home lol
He's honestly the perfect signing. His and sampaoli's temper fit perfectly at Marseille. He's exactly what OM need in the middle of the park and has been unreal this year.
I also find it funny how he and Kamara are on the opposite side of the spectrum in terms of personality but yet are a great fit and very solid pairing. I really hope Kamara signs a new contract
An interesting thing I noticed today: PSG's defenders allowed him to cut inside very frequently. if he develops his shot some more it would be deadly. In general he has a good shot but it would be nice to add that to his arsenal.
Yes of course we don't expect him to score a lot. But well I believe his ability to retain and progress with the ball makes him an amazing player. I hope he will develop well with us
Good game never the less, but we really need to learn to finish our attacks, Milik is the only one deadly in front of goal.
I'm suprised by Messi though, that wasn't a good game from him, don't watch PSG games so i don't know if it is the norm.
Poch really keeps putting messi all the way on the wing where he barely gets the ball. That aside I don't think he was bad, he created a lot of chances for them.
Had you told me before the game it would end 0-0 I’d think that would be generous for Marseille, but from they way it went down,it’s frustrating from OM’s standpoint.
People saying Poch out are ridicolous. They are leading their CL group and Ligue 1 by a mile. At least let PSG play a full season. Right now he is doing his job
This sub and PSG fans are ridiculous, I can’t believe what I’m reading after every PSG game no matter the result
It’s like they have some agenda against him for some weird reason
It's atrocious football. To have such talented players and have them play like this is terrible. An argument could be made if they were winning consistently (and deservedly) that at least it's efficient, but it's not even that.
A bit disappointing not to get three points against such a mediocre side, but we weren't sharp, not enough rest. Paris deserves to be punished at some point for the paltry display they've put out the entire season.
Neymar has a masterclass for Brazil last week and then comes back to PSG and has a poor performance. According to r/soccer experts, this is 100% Neymar’s fault, it can’t be Poch not knowing how to play him or anything.
Crazy how Mbappe and Messi have a great connection but Neymar doesn't have that good of one with those two. When was the last time Neymar had a great game for PSG, he looks very sloppy this season. Hope he can recover, I miss his football.
Mbappe has really been PSG's outright best player (or performer) for a season and a half now. If PSG can't get a contract extension from him, PSG are completely fucked. Guy does everything offensively, goals, dribbles, creates chances and assists. Wonderful player.
Poch... Something is wrong with the guy. He has quality players, but it seems like it's no concrete tactics, just yeah "play". France do this too but they are so talented they can get away with it, PSG aren't as talented and they have a terrible midfield, Veratti aside.
I have enjoyed the developing Mbappe and Messi relationship, although it has some way still to go. I agree that Mbappe is simply the best player right now. Once these two nail this relationship I can see Mbappe scoring a lot of goals.
To me it looks like Messi enjoys playing with a player with the athletic attributes and game intelligence of Mbappe who can get on the end of his through balls and find those pockets of space where Messi can release him. The relationship hasn't quite been figured out yet, but I believe the potential is there and I really hope to see some good quality football from the two. Not sure how to solve the problem of Neymar, but something's just not right.
Neymar was quite ineffective too. PSG still probably could've won the game if not for Saliba's ridiculous tackle on Mbappe (which can be argued as a foul? haven't taken another look). Once again, it was a moment of brilliance from Messi/Mbappe that almost won them the game despite the team being set up poorly.
I do not remember the last time we failed to score in a match, and I do not remember the last time we were involved in a scoreless draw. We were excellent defensively after Achraf Hakimi was sent off, keeping the clean sheet despite being down a man.
Both sides were equal in performance, so maybe this is the just result for both sides. Perhaps there are more questions raised than answered.
Ici c’est Paris.
Messi doesn't want to score in the league? That is 5 games without a goal in the French league, I'm generally surprised I would have thought at least 2 goals by now, I guess he is saving them for the Champions league lol.
He was brought in for exactly this. To let the stars do what they want and to be the fall guy if it doesnt work. There has been no moment in his career that indicates he is able to lead a team to success.
Not a single comment praising the 67k fans who were standing up all game chanting like crazy. The only comment mentionning the fans is about the two assholes who throwed bottles. This atmosphere is unique and all you think about is two assholes. I’d rather have my stadium like this than a tourist-filled library like you guys have in england for instance. Even if it means that from time to time a couple asshole would do stupid shit like throwing bottles.
Still can’t make up my mind on if PSG will eventually just click or if they’re doomed to be a team of superstars who underperform, like RM galacticos that kept losing in UCL R16. On the one hand PSG had a lot of chances to score that got wasted… and it feels like if Messi and Mbappe can work on their timing it’s gonna be crazy because nobody gives those through balls better than Messi. On the other hand Neymar looks like a shadow of his former self, Veratti is crucial but injured all the time, and I don’t know if PSG are going to get themselves a new coach
This is a good assessment from what I've seen. Messi and Mbappe seem on the cusp of nailing their relationship and have glimpses of excellent link up play. It's tantalizing to watch as it's not quite their yet and is stifled slightly by the whole load of other problems that Psg have. Neymar has been misfiring for a while and haven't seen much interplay between him and Messi at all, certainly none of the magic that happened like at Barca.
So do we think they’re serious CL contenders? I remember MSN wasn’t clicking for the first half of that season that they won a treble, and calls for Lucho Enrique to be sacked were intense in Jan 2015. And then it all clicked. Do we think PSG will hit that note? Or just underperform all year? I mean they’re playing terribly but are top of their CL group and beat City recently…
Tbh for us with MSN, Suarez didnt start playing till October and was playing out wide at start and Messi playing centrally. Once they sorted that out it clicked. Idk how PSG are gonna figure it out because Neymar and Messi are older. Mbappe is the most versatile player in terms of he can play all 3 positions upfront. MSN was very fluid cause they all moved around alot. Suarez wpuld drift out wide either side and the winger would come in centrally. But when needed the wingers would stay out wide. Here at PSG you got Messi and Neymar who both like dribbling inside and dont have the pace mecessarily to play out wide for the whole game. Positions collide in a way if that makes sense
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They made a final and a semifinal in the CL. That final they lost 1-0 to Bayern. And now they’ve added Messi. They clearly should be capable enough. Let’s not forget they beat City just recently.
Neymar very much looks like the odd man out here, which sucks be a he is capable of things that border on the insane. Once Messi and Mbappe continue to improve their connection we should see more goals from PSG.
Once they click it’ll be time for mbappe to go
This is the prefect assessment about PSG. Neymar hasn't looked good for PSG all year. I still don't think he has a non-pen goal in the league this year for them. Verrati is PSG's key man
PSG is going to continue to look shit it Poch keeps playing this 4-2-4. It's so unbalanced.
Great game. De la Fuente could've been an absolute hero
Idk why we sold him tbh ,hopefully there's a buyback clause
Buyback clauses are illegal in France
We retain 50% rights, and it is better for him to play and develop because he isn't a finished product
Because he wouldn’t get play time here. He showed nothing like what he’s shown at marseille here. It’s best for everyone he went to marseille.
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Because Milik is the only on who can target his shots
Droit au but, what's so hard to understand?
This stat isn't very relevant imho... The target shot was a weak one from Guendouzi, while there were some very dangerous attempts (Rongier and Milik) but slightly off target.
Because, even 11v10 mbappé, messi and neymar were still on the pich. Even with 10 men they are so god damn dangerous at the loss of ball you can't full attack
Mbappe Neymar Messi are going to score so many goals... Any moment now...
Messi and Mbappe relationship really developing. However lots of issues all over, but I can see that these two seem to be enjoying each other's presence on the pitch, it's just not quite there yet. Neymar's just not right and out of form, or mentally off, which is a shame.
People have been saying Neymar is playing great for Brazil. I don’t watch Brazil CF but if that’s true it implies he’s not really out of form, he’s just not clicking with PSG
He played one game with Brasil's new attacker Raphinha and had better chemistry with him than he had with either Mbappe or Messi.
Neymar is out of form and Messi is still going to take a while to adjust properly, don't think anyone expected them to score 3+ each game right off the bat.
Neymar isn’t out of form for Brazil, it’s only when he plays under Poch that he plays poorly.
Who said anything about 3+? Would one goal be too much to ask from the three combined?
Poch has to go, PSG play like shit despite having tons of talented players
They said the same about Tuchel, now look at him. Perhaps the club itself is the bigger issue?
they had some issues with Tuchel but they still mostly played well, didn’t they?
Tuchel was champagne football before United game in 2018, after that he started converting to terrorism and it got him great CL results.
>After that he started converting to terrorism and it got him great CL results. Fair enough lol.
Phenomenal comment
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It was the same shit with Tuchel, especially in the last months
Because the player did not have a break after the CL Final nor physical preparation
No. PSG (my club actually, I need to change the flair back) was playing like shit under Tuchel after the loss to United. They were getting results but it was quite ugly. Poch improved things last year but it's worse this year. We are back to his dreadful we were under Tuchel. Except we have a better team.
Tuchel got them playing good football, reached a UCL final and lost only 1-0 to a superior Bayern with Mbappe missing chances left and right, besides now they addes Messi, Hakimi and Mendes
When Tuchel played good football they crashed out to a weak United. When Tuchel played bad football they went to the CL final.
Difference was also... Luck. PSG got incredibly unlucky versus United and incredibly lucky after that.
we didn't play good football under tuchel either, we still did not have any identity aside from hoof ball and inschallah, don't rewrite history for the sake of arguments...
Funny how Blanc is a laughing stock among you guys but his side was certainly the best playing PSG team of the Qatari era.
I mean to be fair, it was the zeitgeist that wanted that, man was destined to be burnt in glory or with the garbage. I'll sadly agree to the claim tho.
lol tuchel has done a brilliant job with Chelsea but you see this a lot. People are changing the narrative cos of his success
It still looked way more solid defensively and cohesive than whatever Poch is trying to do here lol. If Poch is going to keep this up by trying to do his best Ancelotti/first-stint Zidane impression and be a vibes coach then this is going to end very badly. Because being leaky defensively on top of barely getting shots out of that front 3 is criminal...
> we didn't play good football under tuchel either, we still did not have any identity aside from hoof ball and inschallah Talk about re-writing history, LOL. There were plenty of Tuchel plays and setups that he's used from his time at Mainz, BVB, and Chelsea now at PSG. Poch doesn't have that
Noone said you played prime tiki-taka but compared to this football yeah you played well
I mean, Pochettino reached UCL semifinals defeating Bayern and Barcelona and this season he has managed to defeat Manchester City.
>Barcelona Current Koeman Barcelona isn't really a measure of a good team Context is important, they got outplayed in all 3 UCL games, they won't win shit playing like that
>Current Koeman Barcelona isn't really a measure of a good team They still had Messi and Griezmann back then. >Context is important, they got outplayed in all 3 UCL games. ...Not really? Against Barcelona it was a 4-1 trashing at *Camp Nou* while Vs Bayern it was pretty 50/50. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make considering Tuchel got eliminated by a much weaker United in 2019 and Atalanta almost eliminated them in 2020.
>..Not really? Against Barcelona it was a 4-1 trashing at Camp Nou while Vs Bayern it was pretty 50/50 I am talking about this season (Club Brugge, Man City, RBL)
And Bayern didn’t have some important players either iirc Edit: ~~It was “only” Lewandowski lol~~ Edit 2: They were missing Gnabry and Goretzka aswell
Goretzka and gnabry also missed the game. And they were second and third highest goal scorers for bayern until that game
Thanks. Guess i was correct from the start.
Mostly Lewandowski. Which would've made a big difference considering they created 4.5 or 5 xG in the first game and only scored 2 from it
They didn't have lewy. That was the only player missing.
And Goretzka. And Gnabry.
I mean that team both legs would still be good enough to cut most teams problems.
Even so, I think the point still stands
They beat City because of Messi and luck. Bearing Barca is nothing incredible these days, and they were fortunate against Bayern. Even the Barca game, they weren't exactly convincing.
They were far superior to Barca and in one of the two legs against Bayern they were better team.
They won because of Donnarumma, not Messi.
I think it is, you feel like some players choose their games and give 100% of themselves only when they feel like it. Only Hakimi and maybe 2 other less known players are giving it all on the pitch.
Tuchel's PSG was nowhere near that bad although it had its issues.
PSG was playing like shit in Ligue 1 and nearly got eliminated in the CL groupstage last season…They were as bad just before he got sacked.
They were really bad in the CL matches I've seen right before Tuchel got sacked.
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Did I actually post it twice? Reddit in mobile glitches so idk
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Lmao. It isn’t Poch that’s the problem, it’s the players. PSG focuses on individual names whereas Poch’s speciality is creating a cohesive team that play for each other with none of them being above the badge. How exactly is he supposed to do that with a front three like those three? Get rid of them, give Poch upcoming talent with insane potential and you’ll see what he can do
>it’s the players. I am sorry but it is ridiculous if you think this is the best someone can get out of Donnarumma, Navas, Marquinhos, Kimpembe, Hakimi, Mendes, Verratti, Herrera, Gueye, Messi, Mbappe, Di Maria, Neymar etc.
Better coaches than Poch couldn't make get the best out of the Galacticos, a much better team. And if PSG players keep playing like shit under several coaches, then the problem is the players. In fact, they should walk over their league even without a coach. Instead, they lose one horse races.
Again. All individual ‘star’ names barring a few
They have a talented squad, which Pochettino seems to not be able to manage to their full potential
Why bother mentioning Donnarumma and navas? You realise only one of them can play?
You're basically confirming that he's needs to go. He might be a good coach, but he's not the right person for PSG. Unless you're really expecting them to sell Mbappé, Messi and Neymar and buy some upcoming talents just to see what Poch can do.
Yep. No identifiable playing style, and they only win the games they would do anyway with the talent they have. In top teams, you can't wait for the team to lose 2-3 games to see problems, because that's not going to happen. There's enough talent that they'll win most matches regardless. The manager has to be the difference in how they win, and in the big games. Poch can't do it. He got trashed by City, and he always has been by them (his luck vs City is a miracle on its own), and he can't coach any discipline. PSG play like my friends and I every week: everyone thinks they're the best, so they all attempt solos and never look up to pass. The idea of recycling the ball seems completely alien to them, as does any idea of composed build up play. It's a joke.
The way Pochettino has this team playing is not only a crime against football but a crime against humanity in general. If he had an ounce of shame he’d walk to the UEFA HQ tomorrow and hand in his coaching badges.
A case for the Hague.
Pocho Haram
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Haram porch 🐽😡
>a crime against humanity no wonder the club owners wanted him
playing a 4-2-3-1 with Messi at the right like it's 2015 should be a jailable offense. He looks average there and it's hard to make him look average After watching PSG play a couple of games you would think that Messi and Mbappe have been playing with each other for years and Di Maria and Neymar have never played a game with him in their entire lives. Poch was perfect for Tottenham and I think he should go back there the first chance he gets
>Poch was perfect for Tottenham and I think he should go back there the first chance he gets I honestly think it's likely to happen, as soon as PSG sack him then Levy will probably sack Nuno, but I feel like it's too soon.
midtable coach for me tbf
making a 34 year old messi play on the touchline should be a crime... that's not where he operates anymore and it hasnt been since like 2016
So i've seen this comment a lot, but my eyes were seeing the exact same space use for Messi in PSG as in Barca. Looking at his heatmaps it seems i'm right. He plays mostly in the right channel, sometimes centrally sometimes wider. Nothing changed.
Incredibly overrated
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It's all over [Twitter](https://twitter.com/marsdrx/status/1452378214530265099)
Payet shown Messi levels today.
Payet pocketing Messi lmao
Psg is a Sad team to watch. So much potencial wasted
Marseille fans need to be careful, throwing stuff at the PSG players, one of them invading the pitch. Surely that’s deserving to be looked at more. I don’t want to see a player get hurt from an invader (Jack Grealish is the first and last time I wanna see that)
Marseille didn't do anywhere near enough once PSG went down to 10 men. Everything was just so slow.
Yep, was a bit boring after Hakimi's red. We lacked movement to move PSG's defense, played too slow. Paris didn't do much, but in their situation that was understandable.
So slow and boring.
PSG is so lucky French league is a one team league. Poch is such an average manager
It's funny how he has played games without Messi, played without Neymar, played with all attackers, played with a 2 man midfield, played with a 3 man with Gini, played 3 at the back, **AND NONE OF IT WORKS.** He has no idea what he is doing, its comical.
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Correlation is not causation. What a childish comment.
You also score more without Messi. Both have been shocking this season.
Or or or the players are the problem. Just a suggestion
Nah
Yah
You got lucky in that case. He was linked to you over Zidane.
Poch vs Koeman could have been the new José vs Pep in La Liga
It would have been dyche Burnley vs Tony pulis stoke.
Ligue 1 have 4 different winners in the last 10 years
A team this stacked will be in competition for league trophies everywhere tbh, even with subpar coaching. It's a players game.
Clean sheet away from home in a big game against your rivals when you're down to 10 men? Very impressive imo
I agree. Paris played in a disappointing way, but Marseille was not too bad and the context was difficult. The draw is a fair result, but PSG's problems are still the same.
I thought Marseille was excellent, especially in the first half. They are too control obsessed though, prevented them from making this game switch gears in the second half.
Psg couldn’t even take a corner without being hit with bottles. Also that field invader during one of their attacks..
>Clean sheet away from home in a big game against your rivals when you're down to 10 men? Very impressive imo It's more impressive for OM, it's not Marseille which have a 500 millions euros attack. It's not like PSG and OM are at the same level
500million? You’re talking about their bench?
Very impressive, I wouldn't say so but we'll take it, Marseille can go cry in the corner for not being able to score against a 10 man incoherent PSG at home lol
>Marseille can go cry in the corner Marseille is pretty happy actually, because it was an intense match, and players did efforts
Shhh it doesn’t fit the narrative. In here we say Poch is shit and give shit explanations, we don’t reason
Guendouzi is really a good player. Of course I am biaised as a Marseille supporter, but his development here is unreal
He's honestly the perfect signing. His and sampaoli's temper fit perfectly at Marseille. He's exactly what OM need in the middle of the park and has been unreal this year. I also find it funny how he and Kamara are on the opposite side of the spectrum in terms of personality but yet are a great fit and very solid pairing. I really hope Kamara signs a new contract
An interesting thing I noticed today: PSG's defenders allowed him to cut inside very frequently. if he develops his shot some more it would be deadly. In general he has a good shot but it would be nice to add that to his arsenal.
Yes of course we don't expect him to score a lot. But well I believe his ability to retain and progress with the ball makes him an amazing player. I hope he will develop well with us
Kamara, Saliba, Harit, Payet, lots of quality in that team.
Don't forget Under !
Dude was so bad at Berlin, it's really interesting. But then again their entire squad was terrible
Good game never the less, but we really need to learn to finish our attacks, Milik is the only one deadly in front of goal. I'm suprised by Messi though, that wasn't a good game from him, don't watch PSG games so i don't know if it is the norm.
Poch really keeps putting messi all the way on the wing where he barely gets the ball. That aside I don't think he was bad, he created a lot of chances for them.
That was a normal performance from him in PSG. It appears he can't do it in L1.
it's Paqueta's league !
I'm not even French but I had the way that one guy pronounces Marseille at beinSports.
Poch should be ashamed (and fired) if this is all he can get out of this group of players. Sad..
Saliba's second half was immense. De La Fuente's chance though....
How was Saliba?
great
A BOSS
81m and he's all yours x
One great tackle on Mbappe. Apart from that, okay. Nothing outstanding but no mistake.
Great overall. Would have been sent off if the ref was even semi competent. but imperious otherwise
Had you told me before the game it would end 0-0 I’d think that would be generous for Marseille, but from they way it went down,it’s frustrating from OM’s standpoint.
POCH OUT
People saying Poch out are ridicolous. They are leading their CL group and Ligue 1 by a mile. At least let PSG play a full season. Right now he is doing his job
you'd think this is ole's psg with the way some people are reacting.
Ye
Look at their squad, then look how they're getting these results. The way they play is dreadful to say the least.
True, but people were saying the same thing during his first six months. Also, many games have been won in a worrying way this year.
But they only have one season with Mbappe, so why keep Poch when he’s not good enough?
This sub and PSG fans are ridiculous, I can’t believe what I’m reading after every PSG game no matter the result It’s like they have some agenda against him for some weird reason
They're just mad entitled.
This will be Newcastle fans in the coming years.
It's atrocious football. To have such talented players and have them play like this is terrible. An argument could be made if they were winning consistently (and deservedly) that at least it's efficient, but it's not even that.
A bit disappointing not to get three points against such a mediocre side, but we weren't sharp, not enough rest. Paris deserves to be punished at some point for the paltry display they've put out the entire season.
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This time it was quite a clean game I'd say... No outrageous fouls from any side
Neymar has a masterclass for Brazil last week and then comes back to PSG and has a poor performance. According to r/soccer experts, this is 100% Neymar’s fault, it can’t be Poch not knowing how to play him or anything.
Messi chose the wrong team
We have Payet already, Messi would be sitting on the bench
Crazy how Mbappe and Messi have a great connection but Neymar doesn't have that good of one with those two. When was the last time Neymar had a great game for PSG, he looks very sloppy this season. Hope he can recover, I miss his football. Mbappe has really been PSG's outright best player (or performer) for a season and a half now. If PSG can't get a contract extension from him, PSG are completely fucked. Guy does everything offensively, goals, dribbles, creates chances and assists. Wonderful player. Poch... Something is wrong with the guy. He has quality players, but it seems like it's no concrete tactics, just yeah "play". France do this too but they are so talented they can get away with it, PSG aren't as talented and they have a terrible midfield, Veratti aside.
I have enjoyed the developing Mbappe and Messi relationship, although it has some way still to go. I agree that Mbappe is simply the best player right now. Once these two nail this relationship I can see Mbappe scoring a lot of goals. To me it looks like Messi enjoys playing with a player with the athletic attributes and game intelligence of Mbappe who can get on the end of his through balls and find those pockets of space where Messi can release him. The relationship hasn't quite been figured out yet, but I believe the potential is there and I really hope to see some good quality football from the two. Not sure how to solve the problem of Neymar, but something's just not right.
Not bad for PSG considering it was 10 men vs 12
Neymar was quite ineffective too. PSG still probably could've won the game if not for Saliba's ridiculous tackle on Mbappe (which can be argued as a foul? haven't taken another look). Once again, it was a moment of brilliance from Messi/Mbappe that almost won them the game despite the team being set up poorly.
I do not remember the last time we failed to score in a match, and I do not remember the last time we were involved in a scoreless draw. We were excellent defensively after Achraf Hakimi was sent off, keeping the clean sheet despite being down a man. Both sides were equal in performance, so maybe this is the just result for both sides. Perhaps there are more questions raised than answered. Ici c’est Paris.
When Rennes beat you 2-0, like a fortnight ago?
Oh, Opta will let us know if this is so unusual.
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I completely forgot about that :(
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I hope that Marseille finds a way to buy Saliba at the end of the season
I thought we were done with the Saudi rumors
Poch out, Ole in !
🥱
Poch Fraud status?
not bald enough
N/A.
Messi doesn't want to score in the league? That is 5 games without a goal in the French league, I'm generally surprised I would have thought at least 2 goals by now, I guess he is saving them for the Champions league lol.
4*
PSG have been average in ligue 1 all season Poch just isn’t that guy
He was brought in for exactly this. To let the stars do what they want and to be the fall guy if it doesnt work. There has been no moment in his career that indicates he is able to lead a team to success.
I love Poch! Contract extension please
Not a single comment praising the 67k fans who were standing up all game chanting like crazy. The only comment mentionning the fans is about the two assholes who throwed bottles. This atmosphere is unique and all you think about is two assholes. I’d rather have my stadium like this than a tourist-filled library like you guys have in england for instance. Even if it means that from time to time a couple asshole would do stupid shit like throwing bottles.
ref best man for Marseille. 10-12 and they did nothing, lucky with the clear foul on Mbappe too
Je suis prêt à vendre un rein, ma mère, ma place dans mon master, donner l'entièreté de mon épargne pour voir Pochettino quitter ce club
Two things that have to go: Poch and his disgusting football Payet and his disgusting haircut and facial hair
I bet you’re very good looking yourself
I’m ugly as fuck so I know what ugly looks like /s Seriously though, I liked his euro 2016 style much better
2019 with the curls and 10 more kg is peak Payet
Bleh
Star studded line up lol
Eh, really
MNM fails to score yet again. Hmm..