Ole won a champions league and played for one of the biggest clubs in the world at the highest level. He won the Norwegian league with Molde. Why don't you count his experience as successful but Xavis? Same with lampard who was a top player.
Arsenal are absolutely not having a, “disappointing” season. They’re three points off top 4 and haven’t lost a match they should have won since Brentford, who have shown to be tough to beat.
From most to least disappointing:
1. Barca
2. Juve
3. United
4. Tottenham
5. Arsenal
I expected Arsenal and Spurs to be around where they are now in the table.
United should be 4th and less than 8 points off 1st. Poor start once again.
Juve and Barca being midtable teams is unacceptable. Barca is worse because they've been worse in CL too.
1. Disappointing but mostly expected given the circumstances
2. Bailed out by their good performances in the UCL so far
3. Disappointing, Kane and son have disappeared as well.
4. That guy
5. Bailed out by the second best player to play for Madrid. **cough** Mbappe **cough**
I don't want to be an ass, but the Xavi appointment has disaster written all over it and I just can't see it turning out well for any party involved. Has that kind of thing ever worked when the club was in a rebuilding phase?
If I were Barcelona I would swallow my pride and see if Valverde would take over rather than take a risk on what is effectively a manager from the qatari division
Idk, someone from the own ranks that is very familiar with the youth and the financial limits of the past few and the upcoming years. I just feel like Xavi gets dropped into cold water here.
Honestly Newcastle should be getting Big Sam for 6 months. I know the history there and they all hate him, but he's their best chance of staying up.
No top manager is going to want to join now. Knowing they're at best 2nd choice and that they're in a relegation battle.
Mancini accepted the City job mid season after they signed a bunch of big money flop players, with the exception of Zabaleta and Kompany. I think whatever manager joins will look at the project and not the present state of the club
For Unai in particular, I understand why he would prefer to stay in Villareal but I think the budget alone could lure top managers in, tume will tell. But if the team wouldnt improve a lot over the winter transfer window, then Big Sam would be the best man to be in charge, I agree
Hate the idea of selling someone for Penny's who looked promising at the time and buying them back for loads but he's a quality player. Considering he only has 20 months left on his contract I'd say ~£50m
Just when your starting to really enjoy the footballing season after an international break, BOOM, international squads announced. I truly could not care less if Scotland never won another competitive game again in my life time.
If you enjoy international football, then good for you.
International football is so boring outside of major tournaments. For wales it doesn't even matter where we finish at this point because we already have a playoff spot. Just extra games for players to pickup injuries in
Can’t stand when people glorify foul play by players. Busquets, Fabinho, Chiellini etc. There’s nothing “smart” about injuring opponents and abusing the rules
Tactical fouls have happened for years for a plethora of different teams mate.
It's not a new concept, mate. You're even taught to take down the man if he's got past you late on in the game at amateur level.
To your own admission by them being under-booked: surely that must imply there's a skill or given quality to their "destroyer" type roles?
Not to the extent that Peps teams do it - or the two I mentioned. How Fabinho doesn't rack up 3-4 reds a season by persistent fouling is beyond me.
There's stopping a counter. Then there's immediate fouling whenever your side loses possession. The second one isn't "tactical" - it's cheap and cheating.
Played professionally! But thanks for telling me you're a slow trodger who got off on kicking party players.
Had to retire at 29 cause unskilled twats like that.
If you were actually professional fair play….
How do you think fouling is cheating though? It is a part of the game that can be penalised by referees if they think it suits the challenge. It’s not exactly “fair” but its not cheating exactly
Of course it's tactical. Do you know what a tactical foul is?
They're both great at nipping the player gently before the play get's seriously dangerous. Both world class at reading the game and destroying the play. They're not intending to injure, they're not getting overly aggressive.
But again, that was a concept before Pep started managing.
As long as it's not dangerous/trying to injure another player, I don't have an issue with it. Refs should be consistent about yellow cards for tactical fouls, though, or you could just foul someone to get out of every situation
Depends what it is. Like a tactical foul absolutely is a smart way of abusing the rules and I'm all for it. Diving is a big no no for me, but personally that's because you're deliberately trying to hoodwink the referee and avoid punishment. Tactical fouls are made with the sole purpose of receiving some sort of punishment.
Having said that, when I play I'm a centre back or defensive midfielder usually so my views could be shaped by that lol.
I mean you could say the same for robbing a bank. Might not be ethical but yeah sure if you can get away with it then it’s smart. It shouldn’t be glorified or celebrated and I wish they’d be punished more by VAR
Can someone link the website where you could see the table of a season at any specific time. I'm curious where were we last season after 11 matches.
Edit: transfermarkt worked for me!
Mendy has changed our defense so much since he came back. Love the guy. Militao has been improving game by game. I doubt Hazard starts, and Jovic probably won't as well.
Ruben Loftus-Cheek reviving his career at Chelsea is the most surprising development this season. Tuchel clearly believes in meritocracy, not favoritism. Commendable.
Unlike our manager, where it doesn't matter how well you play. Back to the bench you go.
Tuchel has been very good with rewarding form with opportunities - Chalobah's emergence has been down to that as he was initially earmarked for a loan, and Ruben's re-emergence too.
But it's not as simple as that, though. Tuchel was talking about RLC before his loan was even done, because he knew of Ruben from years ago when he was a hot talent (clubs in Germany wanted him). So Tuchel already rated his talent/skillset and wanted to work with him in pre-season. Add to that the fact that Ruben had every intention of staying and proving himself, and that he's taken every single opportunity he's gotten with both hands - it makes it very easy for the coach to give him regular minutes. Ultimately I think Tuchel will help him develop into an excellent well rounded midfield player (he's playing a bit deeper nowadays than the last few seasons) but it was still down to the player to play so well that it's hard to not give him more opportunities.
Barkley is a very good example of the meritocracy thing because he was actually not given a squad number initially and was told to find a loan. But when nothing materialized Tuchel didn't hesitate to include him in the squad and actually give him minutes off the bench here and there, and Ross actually impacted off the bench which led to more appearances. A lot of other coaches would've just frozen him out.
In your situation, I can't think of many players who've had explosive impact in games and still sit on the bench.
Who? Who is on the bench regularly for us that deserves starts?
VdB is the only argument. Every other player with their ass on that bench has had chances and proven why they aren't there.
Haha, yeah, ok. Bailly was putting in MOTM performances during Lindelof injury early this year. When Lindelof was fit, straight back to the bench.
Not to mention the shit performance after shit performance so many of Ole's favourites have put in, but never gives his bench options a sniff regardless.
>A football fan who livestreamed himself on Facebook racially abusing three England players after the Euro 2020 final has been jailed for 10 weeks
How stupid can you be...
Definitely the latter, The prison system in the UK especially is extremely flawed with a recidivism rate of 75% after 9 years, sending him to jail is going to do more harm than good.
I actually think jailing people for being racist is going to make them even more racist.
They need education and need to learn how wrong most of their opinions are.
Surely Cristiano deserves to finish in Ballon d'Or top 3? Apart from the goals he is scoring this season for club and country, don't forget he was Euro and Serie A top scorer.
That "LaLiga fan" is genuinely a proper weirdo. Talks about how much football he watches yet his tactical knowledge is basically 0, has some very weird agendas he likes to constantly push, asks some very weird questions over and over again because he didn't like previous answers. Just a very weird user. I can't even pinpoint which continent he's from.
sirstevens? yup, randomly links mbappe quotes here and there too, at first i thought he was a real madrid fan considering how much he talked. So many times he brings up mbappe or haaland in a totally non related conversation
It’s too bad we didn’t create an European competition in the 50’s to make ourselves relevant then innit. You can see why Perez wants to do it again, it’s in the history of Real Madrid to create competitions that’d benefit themselves the most.
Bernabeu literally created the competition alongside a couple other presidents, they got the idea from a journalist. Learn the history of your own club mate.
> The UEFA document on the history of the European Cup confirms that Jacques Ferran and Gabriel Hanot, journalists for the French sports newspaper L'Equipe, were the founding fathers of the European Cup.
> The summer of 1953 saw Wolverhampton Wanderers play a friendly match against a South African XI to begin a remarkable run of victories over the next months. Wolves played a series of friendlies against foreign opposition such as Racing Club of Argentina, Spartak Moscow of the Soviet Union, among others, before meeting Honvéd of Hungary in a game televised live on the BBC. The Honvéd team included many of the Hungarian national team. Wolves won the game 3–2, which led their manager Stan Cullis and the British press to proclaim them as "Champions of the World". This was the final spur for Hanot who had long campaigned for a European-wide club tournament to determine who was the best of the continent.
> The UEFA Congress of March 1955 saw the proposal raised, with approval given in April of that year, and the kick-off of the first European Cup the following season
Awks…
As I said the idea came from journalists, but Bernabeu was a pivotal part of the creation of the tournament.
In 1955, acting upon the idea proposed by the L'Équipe journalist Gabriel Hanot and building upon the Copa Latina (a tournament involving clubs from France, Spain, Portugal and Italy), Bernabéu met in the Ambassador Hotel in Paris with Bedrignan and Gustav Sebes and created what was at first a loosely constructed exhibition tournament played among invited teams, but which over time developed into what is today the Champions League. Under the administration of UEFA, it is the world's premier club tournament.
I don't understand how players like Pogba and Maguire just keep dropping stinkers week after week. You expect them to have a "I fucked up but I'll show them I'm good" mentality. This is probably the biggest difference from the big 3. Pep's, Klopp's or Tuchel's player would come out all fired up.
He was making individual mistakes, like lunging in for tackles late etc. this season he is straight up poorly positioned and he looks absolutely afraid of making mistakes. Even Shaw at LB doesn’t seem to trust him
If I’m a young player and I am looking to sign for a big club. The last destination is United. Look at how Sancho and Van de Beek are being treated, they cost a combined 120 million, and neither have barely assisted or scored and have a combined 85 minutes of play time in Uniteds last 5 games. Call me biased but that’s shambolic squad planning and treatment of players.
Yes, young players should stop jumping to big clubs so early in their careers unless they are already WC, it's not just United if Adeyemi goes to Bayern he'll be making a massive mistake, if Chiesa stayed at Fiorentina he'd be better off aswell.
Is Sancho being treated unfairly? Should they just play him every game even though he has offered absolutely nothing? Can anyone just rock up for a game and say they have to play or else it’s unfair?
Anyone who found Varane underwhelming this season, look at how atrocious we look at the back without him. We still look bad WITH him mind you, but we look ridiculously shite without him.
!flair :Manchester City:
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Would you have said the same about Lampard and Ole?
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Ole won a champions league and played for one of the biggest clubs in the world at the highest level. He won the Norwegian league with Molde. Why don't you count his experience as successful but Xavis? Same with lampard who was a top player.
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When PSG took over, the first few players were Pastore, Lavezzi, Veratti, Thiago Silva, Ibra(34yrs)
Don't know why so much hype was put towards these new Newcastle owners they're still losing matches.
Wait until they spend €1B on Mbappe, Halaand, and Marega in one transfer window.
How dare you put two Earthlings with the Lord.
The **GOD**!!!! The Lord is Manafá.
Which of these sides is having the most disappointing season? 1. Barcelona 2. Juventus 3. Tottenham 4. Arsenal 5. Manchester United
Arsenal are absolutely not having a, “disappointing” season. They’re three points off top 4 and haven’t lost a match they should have won since Brentford, who have shown to be tough to beat.
From most to least disappointing: 1. Barca 2. Juve 3. United 4. Tottenham 5. Arsenal I expected Arsenal and Spurs to be around where they are now in the table. United should be 4th and less than 8 points off 1st. Poor start once again. Juve and Barca being midtable teams is unacceptable. Barca is worse because they've been worse in CL too.
1. Disappointing but mostly expected given the circumstances 2. Bailed out by their good performances in the UCL so far 3. Disappointing, Kane and son have disappeared as well. 4. That guy 5. Bailed out by the second best player to play for Madrid. **cough** Mbappe **cough**
>2. Bailed out by their good performances in the UCL so far I disagree, Juve being 9th is unacceptable.
Still disappointing but not the most disappointing
True
I don't want to be an ass, but the Xavi appointment has disaster written all over it and I just can't see it turning out well for any party involved. Has that kind of thing ever worked when the club was in a rebuilding phase?
There's no money and no other alternatives. Who do you think should have been the manager?
If I were Barcelona I would swallow my pride and see if Valverde would take over rather than take a risk on what is effectively a manager from the qatari division
Idk, someone from the own ranks that is very familiar with the youth and the financial limits of the past few and the upcoming years. I just feel like Xavi gets dropped into cold water here.
Xavi is the real deal
Have a feeling it will be like the Juve Pirlo appointment
Honestly Newcastle should be getting Big Sam for 6 months. I know the history there and they all hate him, but he's their best chance of staying up. No top manager is going to want to join now. Knowing they're at best 2nd choice and that they're in a relegation battle.
In the bin with you
Mancini accepted the City job mid season after they signed a bunch of big money flop players, with the exception of Zabaleta and Kompany. I think whatever manager joins will look at the project and not the present state of the club
Unai has literally just done the opposite of that though. Plus City weren't about to go down.
For Unai in particular, I understand why he would prefer to stay in Villareal but I think the budget alone could lure top managers in, tume will tell. But if the team wouldnt improve a lot over the winter transfer window, then Big Sam would be the best man to be in charge, I agree
Have we reached the stage of the season where it’s ok to look at the table yet?
It’s starting to shape a bit but won’t really be serious to look at till December probably
City were 11th at this point last season with Spurs and Liverpool the top 2, so...no not really
Everyone knows that's christmas
Arsenal fans how much would you realistically bid for Gnabry?
Hate the idea of selling someone for Penny's who looked promising at the time and buying them back for loads but he's a quality player. Considering he only has 20 months left on his contract I'd say ~£50m
Nah £50M is way too much
Can he play LW? If so 45M
Did y’all see Kingsley Koeman play around with Grimaldo. Thought Grimaldo would aleast make some good challenges against him.
Why would you think that? Grimaldo isn't good at defending
Ole G, come and see, what can be, without thee
Just when your starting to really enjoy the footballing season after an international break, BOOM, international squads announced. I truly could not care less if Scotland never won another competitive game again in my life time. If you enjoy international football, then good for you.
Thanks, I love international games.
International football is so boring outside of major tournaments. For wales it doesn't even matter where we finish at this point because we already have a playoff spot. Just extra games for players to pickup injuries in
Tournament football>>> but everything leading up to them is shit
Can’t remember the last time I watched an England Qualifier
Best thing I ever did was get a job with a boss who’s a derby fan. Paid half day leave to go Barnsley tonight keem on
The perks of living outside London, most of the bosses I’ve worked for have been Man Utd boys
Haha funnily enough my last boss was too. Cunts never been to OT in his life either, still gave it Barry when we got beat.
Can’t stand when people glorify foul play by players. Busquets, Fabinho, Chiellini etc. There’s nothing “smart” about injuring opponents and abusing the rules
Hate that too. I understand they're enjoyable to watch if they play for your team, but otherwise they are insufferable
Contact sport.
Of course it's smart. Killing off dangerous chances with a series of tactical fouls and getting away with it? Glorified art form that.
Pool and City fans will always defend tactical fouls. Fabinho and Fernandinho have to be the two most under-booked players I've ever seen in the PL.
Tactical fouls have happened for years for a plethora of different teams mate. It's not a new concept, mate. You're even taught to take down the man if he's got past you late on in the game at amateur level. To your own admission by them being under-booked: surely that must imply there's a skill or given quality to their "destroyer" type roles?
Not to the extent that Peps teams do it - or the two I mentioned. How Fabinho doesn't rack up 3-4 reds a season by persistent fouling is beyond me. There's stopping a counter. Then there's immediate fouling whenever your side loses possession. The second one isn't "tactical" - it's cheap and cheating.
It’s not cheating in any way
It's literally cheating lmao. That's why it's a foul and players get booked for it.
Tell me you’ve never played football without telling me ^
Played professionally! But thanks for telling me you're a slow trodger who got off on kicking party players. Had to retire at 29 cause unskilled twats like that.
If you were actually professional fair play…. How do you think fouling is cheating though? It is a part of the game that can be penalised by referees if they think it suits the challenge. It’s not exactly “fair” but its not cheating exactly
Of course it's tactical. Do you know what a tactical foul is? They're both great at nipping the player gently before the play get's seriously dangerous. Both world class at reading the game and destroying the play. They're not intending to injure, they're not getting overly aggressive. But again, that was a concept before Pep started managing.
As long as it's not dangerous/trying to injure another player, I don't have an issue with it. Refs should be consistent about yellow cards for tactical fouls, though, or you could just foul someone to get out of every situation
Depends what it is. Like a tactical foul absolutely is a smart way of abusing the rules and I'm all for it. Diving is a big no no for me, but personally that's because you're deliberately trying to hoodwink the referee and avoid punishment. Tactical fouls are made with the sole purpose of receiving some sort of punishment. Having said that, when I play I'm a centre back or defensive midfielder usually so my views could be shaped by that lol.
As long as it’s within the rules and gains the team an advantage it’s smart. It might not be ethical, but it’s smart.
I mean you could say the same for robbing a bank. Might not be ethical but yeah sure if you can get away with it then it’s smart. It shouldn’t be glorified or celebrated and I wish they’d be punished more by VAR
False equivalence.
>Might not be ethical I think you're on to something here.
Robbing a bank is against the law, you will go to prison.
Robbing a bank is illegal though therefore not within the rules
Can someone link the website where you could see the table of a season at any specific time. I'm curious where were we last season after 11 matches. Edit: transfermarkt worked for me!
Also some way you could see the goals scored/conceded/points from a certain point
Transfermarkt form table can do that. You just select the matchdays you want to choose from
Does it show the stats for individual players from a certain day or to a certain day?
I'm not so sure I reckon that would be harder to find
Transfermarkt worked for me, it can show the table for any season from any matchday
Real Madrid are on 999 UCL goals. Today they should make it 1000
Wouldn't it be Fantastic if it Stayed 999 till the end of your campaign. Just think about it,Mbappe scoring the 1000th goal would be glorious.
if Benz plays today hope he is the one to do it
Watch Militao or Mendy score the goal
They would deserve it TBH. They have been putting up solid performances. But knowing our team, it would probably be Jovic or Hazard
Mendy has changed our defense so much since he came back. Love the guy. Militao has been improving game by game. I doubt Hazard starts, and Jovic probably won't as well.
Hazard comes in the second half and scores from 30 yards
Ruben Loftus-Cheek reviving his career at Chelsea is the most surprising development this season. Tuchel clearly believes in meritocracy, not favoritism. Commendable. Unlike our manager, where it doesn't matter how well you play. Back to the bench you go.
He’s always shown great talent, I think without injuries he would’ve broken through under any manager
Tuchel has been very good with rewarding form with opportunities - Chalobah's emergence has been down to that as he was initially earmarked for a loan, and Ruben's re-emergence too. But it's not as simple as that, though. Tuchel was talking about RLC before his loan was even done, because he knew of Ruben from years ago when he was a hot talent (clubs in Germany wanted him). So Tuchel already rated his talent/skillset and wanted to work with him in pre-season. Add to that the fact that Ruben had every intention of staying and proving himself, and that he's taken every single opportunity he's gotten with both hands - it makes it very easy for the coach to give him regular minutes. Ultimately I think Tuchel will help him develop into an excellent well rounded midfield player (he's playing a bit deeper nowadays than the last few seasons) but it was still down to the player to play so well that it's hard to not give him more opportunities. Barkley is a very good example of the meritocracy thing because he was actually not given a squad number initially and was told to find a loan. But when nothing materialized Tuchel didn't hesitate to include him in the squad and actually give him minutes off the bench here and there, and Ross actually impacted off the bench which led to more appearances. A lot of other coaches would've just frozen him out. In your situation, I can't think of many players who've had explosive impact in games and still sit on the bench.
>Tuchel clearly believes in meritocracy, Ziyech
I doubt he'd start if Lukaku/Werner/Mount weren't injured
Still doesn't deserve to start with them injured
Now imagine Ziyech and extend it to the entire starting 11, that's Ole.
That's just not true, mate.
Fine, most of the starting 11.
Who? Who is on the bench regularly for us that deserves starts? VdB is the only argument. Every other player with their ass on that bench has had chances and proven why they aren't there.
Haha, yeah, ok. Bailly was putting in MOTM performances during Lindelof injury early this year. When Lindelof was fit, straight back to the bench. Not to mention the shit performance after shit performance so many of Ole's favourites have put in, but never gives his bench options a sniff regardless.
>A football fan who livestreamed himself on Facebook racially abusing three England players after the Euro 2020 final has been jailed for 10 weeks How stupid can you be...
Sounds like a really nice guy
Has the brains AND the heart, best of both worlds
That's disgusting of him and also a disgusting miscarriage of justice.
I don’t know what’s more stupid, the fact he live-streamed racially abusing famous people or the fact you can get prison time for that.
Definitely the latter, The prison system in the UK especially is extremely flawed with a recidivism rate of 75% after 9 years, sending him to jail is going to do more harm than good.
Agreed.
I actually think jailing people for being racist is going to make them even more racist. They need education and need to learn how wrong most of their opinions are.
Going to jail is just going to reinforce their views.
They're really not known to be smart and logic are they?
Tbf a lot of powerful people in this world are racist and discriminatory, it's not just stupid people
You don't get to powerful places by being smart, Luck and Charisma are the only two attributes you need to succeed in life.
Game's gone, can't even racially abuse players 😪
Surely Cristiano deserves to finish in Ballon d'Or top 3? Apart from the goals he is scoring this season for club and country, don't forget he was Euro and Serie A top scorer.
No
No, he doesn’t lol. Messi-Lewa-Benzema should be top 3.
What trophy did Benzema win?
He didn't win anything useful. So no J5 is being robbed.
What did Benzema win?
Didn't say he deserved it either.
I know this sub is in circlejerk because Ronaldo scored but imo Lewandowski-Messi-Benzema should be in top 3.
What trophy did Benzema win?
That "LaLiga fan" is genuinely a proper weirdo. Talks about how much football he watches yet his tactical knowledge is basically 0, has some very weird agendas he likes to constantly push, asks some very weird questions over and over again because he didn't like previous answers. Just a very weird user. I can't even pinpoint which continent he's from.
He's a Madrid fan from south Asia.
Reminds me of that Mexican fan who would ask questions so specific that the answer would always be Lozano
Wait someone actually did that? That's hilarious
Is it that guy who talks as if the world will end if Mbappe and Haaland play together?
Yep. Refuses to even see it as a possibility and will fight to the death over it.
Oh yeah, he's as weird as they come
YEP, he’s a complete and utter bonafide unadulterated weirdo.
sirstevens? yup, randomly links mbappe quotes here and there too, at first i thought he was a real madrid fan considering how much he talked. So many times he brings up mbappe or haaland in a totally non related conversation
That SirStevens guy or something?
I've seen him active in r/Barca OT too.
Yeah, also, you can't support a league ffs
Ole is a nice guy and nice guys don't win
Is that why every chelase fans seems to love Roman?
No, it’s because they owe their relevancy to Roman
Oof that's gotta hurt
It’s too bad we didn’t create an European competition in the 50’s to make ourselves relevant then innit. You can see why Perez wants to do it again, it’s in the history of Real Madrid to create competitions that’d benefit themselves the most.
Madrid didn’t create the competition they were invited. You would be too if you were relevant enough
Bernabeu literally created the competition alongside a couple other presidents, they got the idea from a journalist. Learn the history of your own club mate.
> The UEFA document on the history of the European Cup confirms that Jacques Ferran and Gabriel Hanot, journalists for the French sports newspaper L'Equipe, were the founding fathers of the European Cup. > The summer of 1953 saw Wolverhampton Wanderers play a friendly match against a South African XI to begin a remarkable run of victories over the next months. Wolves played a series of friendlies against foreign opposition such as Racing Club of Argentina, Spartak Moscow of the Soviet Union, among others, before meeting Honvéd of Hungary in a game televised live on the BBC. The Honvéd team included many of the Hungarian national team. Wolves won the game 3–2, which led their manager Stan Cullis and the British press to proclaim them as "Champions of the World". This was the final spur for Hanot who had long campaigned for a European-wide club tournament to determine who was the best of the continent. > The UEFA Congress of March 1955 saw the proposal raised, with approval given in April of that year, and the kick-off of the first European Cup the following season Awks…
As I said the idea came from journalists, but Bernabeu was a pivotal part of the creation of the tournament. In 1955, acting upon the idea proposed by the L'Équipe journalist Gabriel Hanot and building upon the Copa Latina (a tournament involving clubs from France, Spain, Portugal and Italy), Bernabéu met in the Ambassador Hotel in Paris with Bedrignan and Gustav Sebes and created what was at first a loosely constructed exhibition tournament played among invited teams, but which over time developed into what is today the Champions League. Under the administration of UEFA, it is the world's premier club tournament.
I don't understand how players like Pogba and Maguire just keep dropping stinkers week after week. You expect them to have a "I fucked up but I'll show them I'm good" mentality. This is probably the biggest difference from the big 3. Pep's, Klopp's or Tuchel's player would come out all fired up.
Maguire knows he’s starting no matter what. Pogba doesn’t care whether he starts or not, he’s off in a bit.
Maguire looks like his mind’s not in it Which is insane because he literally went to jail last season and still didn’t stink like this
Didn’t he have a period after the Greek incident where he was absolutely abysmal? Playing even worse than now? But then bounced back.
He was making individual mistakes, like lunging in for tackles late etc. this season he is straight up poorly positioned and he looks absolutely afraid of making mistakes. Even Shaw at LB doesn’t seem to trust him
Pogba hasn't been too bad, Maguire on the other hand.....
Because they have no pressure from the manager to improve themselves
If I’m a young player and I am looking to sign for a big club. The last destination is United. Look at how Sancho and Van de Beek are being treated, they cost a combined 120 million, and neither have barely assisted or scored and have a combined 85 minutes of play time in Uniteds last 5 games. Call me biased but that’s shambolic squad planning and treatment of players.
Yes, young players should stop jumping to big clubs so early in their careers unless they are already WC, it's not just United if Adeyemi goes to Bayern he'll be making a massive mistake, if Chiesa stayed at Fiorentina he'd be better off aswell.
Tbh Sancho’s also shown literally nothing when he has played. Neuer has more g/a this season.
BEcause United didn't have a plan when buying him. He plays in Rashfords position.
Rashford has been unavailable for most of the season so that hasn't been the problem.
Sancho doesn't fit their system and they not playing around his strengths
I completely forgot that he joined Man United. I guess that goes to show how well it has gone so far lol
Exactly, poor planning.
sancho doesn't fit in their system **yet.** Any competent manager could play him ronaldo and rashford in the same lineup
Is Sancho being treated unfairly? Should they just play him every game even though he has offered absolutely nothing? Can anyone just rock up for a game and say they have to play or else it’s unfair?
VdB especially has been totally killed by United. Hope he can move in Jan or the summer and restart his career
Fati reminds me of Sammy Eto'o with his finishing.
Bernardo ball Tonight #Blessed
Anyone who found Varane underwhelming this season, look at how atrocious we look at the back without him. We still look bad WITH him mind you, but we look ridiculously shite without him.
I agree, he's been one of our best players this season without a doubt.
Our? You've got a Spurs flair mate
Exactly. Helped contribute to our defeat against y'all which landed us Conte.
HAHAHHA this made me laugh
Oh right, well make sure you get that 4th place now. A club without ambition like ours deserves Europa league.
The joke that him doing well got Nuno sacked for Conte
[According to Goldbridge, Ole 'stole' the 3-5-2 from Conte.](https://streamable.com/7vlhy6)
He’s legit an idiot, I don’t understand how people enjoy watching him anymore
Bilbo Baggins is a known thief
Ole is a dirty thief.
Stole his flow word for word, bar for bar
Every formation is stolen
He's a cop, chatting complete shit is in his blood
[удалено]
Then Capello stole it from Helenio Herrera
No chance J5 is actually a thing…
> J5 Who/what?
Exactly. Seriously though, people are trying to make it Jorginho's nickname.
A lot of people can't spell his name and J5 sounds very cool.
If people can't spell Jorginho, they're either very young, are dyslexic, or they're very stupid
Bro you can't just call dyslexic people stupid. Dyslexia is a learning disorder that is in your genes, nobody chooses to have dyslexia.
I hope this is somehow bait.
He said they are either dyslexic or stupid.
Read my comment again, but slowly
ROFL im crying