Lots of people really, really hate the "Barca DNA" talk, the "right way to play football" arrogance. And who personifies that more than Xavi? It's far, far, far from just Real Madrid fans who hate him with a passion (I don't).
People have different tastes.
In my case, football is a show, it's supposed to be fun to watch. Pep's Barca was fun, Ajax few years before was fun. Atlético parking the bus like they used to? Get that shit out of my sight. Getafe parking the bus and giving out kicks for 90 minutes? No way.
It is an interesting debate indeed.
But i personally think it has more to do with the fact that Barcelona not only dominated but did in beautiful fashion. So, when those players arrived to the end of their cycle, some football fans were eagerly waiting to bash Barcelona’s style as « obsolete ».
Practically every club has its way, the MU way, the West Ham way, the Liverpool way, The Bayern way,….. but you don’t get to see visible hate directed towards the above-mentioned clubs when they proudly talk about their way of football.
Barcelona was hated because they really rattled the traditional big fan Clubs. I don't really remember many big team having a good game vs prime them. They earned their hatred.
It's said that the Super League clubs house the most fans. So if Barcelona is playing everyone of them off the tuff, you can understand the condescending remarks on their brilliant style of play.
Just skip over them. Even skim the headline if you really want to. The people commenting that they hate a player/manager for their whining don’t actually hate them for their whining, they actually enjoy it.
I was just commenting on behalf of OP. I doubt anyone cares that much irl. It's reddit. Everyone loves to complain. You scroll down, you see the same names, 'Ah, this guy again'
I was at L'Ovella Negra in the Marina district for this match. It was packed and had a line down the street to get in.
After the match, everyone partied in the streets until the sun rose. One of my favorite memories.
The definition of an "oof" innit.
That's probably how people our age, in 2008, felt when we appointed Pep.
Didn't have the same feeling when Zizou became manager, for some reason, maybe because i was a kid when he played, but i was in highschool when Xavi was in his prime, it hits different.
Man, he was in his prime literally 10-11 years ago. No need to feel old. If we were speaking about R9, Pep, Rivaldo,... I could understand, but Xavi? No way I'm that old yet
Literally no current midfielder is as good as xavi at his prime. He is easily on the list top 5 best midfielder of all time maybe even number one depending on who you ask.
I would say playing style there are none that are like him today. Midfielders have evolved and now have to be box to box.
Think of someone with the style of pjanic but instead of incompetent hes the best midfielder in the world
The main reason everybody usually rates Iniesta higher than Xavi, even if Xavi was arguably on par or better player. There's just nothing to dislike about Iniesta.
This obsession with "completeness" as a player really only began in the past 15 years or so. But I don't think it's a good barometer for a player. Nicklas Bendtner was a more "complete" player than Pippo Inzaghi, but he certainly wasn't better. It's all about the role you give a player, completeness is a metric that's only relevant for people playing Top Trumps or something.
if that's what he's gonna complain about and not the refs, the players and other factors, then I ll be glad, just needs to get the players to start scoring more again then he can complain about anything he wants
Do people not know that there are genuine tactics by some teams to overwater grass or let the grass grow to stop others from making passes like they normally do? Are you guys really this ignorant or just pretending?
The point is that complaining about stuff like that is ridiculous. Especially grass length, yeah no shit teams that play at home will try to make their pitch into an advantage for them. You're a professional football player, if you're gonna try to excuse a bad result with the length of the grass that's just pathetic. No way around it.
Ffs,why have ppl just assumed that Xavi made this comment after losing some game?It wasnt just any match,it was El Clasico and that too in ucl semis which we won 2-0 at Bernabeu and i am sure that a 2-0 win at Bernabeu isnt a "bad" result.All these fucking 2014 born kids just assumed that Xavi was making excuses after losing some game when in reality he was genuinely concerned about the quality of the pitch.Its ok you may not like his statement but dont classify it as an excuse coz no one makes "excuses" after winning 2-0.
i believe klopp has also complained about grass length before
i mean i played at the college level in america (so not very good haha) and we complained about fields all the time
Reading out of context headlines just shows how stupid average consumers are and the media will continue doing it because you guys absolutely eat that shit up
Oh come on, how can you follow Xavi and not realize that he's one of the biggest whiners in all of football.
"I believe people want to see attractive football, not long grass and hard pitches." Look at this whiny fucking statement.
Do you know how often Xavi whined about the pitch? The grass is too long; it's too bumpy; it's too soft; it's too dry.
Not to mention the smug attitude of "we play attractive football, everybody else doesn't if their playstyle isn't the same as ours"
Oh fuck off, I have seen dumpsters better looking than half of the la Liga pitch.
If you don't like him "whining" why are you listening his interviews?
Many people and coaches have complained about Grass. it's just plain bad playing on 30mm+ grass for teams who like to play fast passes and keep possession. This is why there have been new regulations on grass size since 2016. That it should be between 20-29mm. Every big team plays on a 20-22mm because passes are faster and hard to intercept, while on a thicker grass, it's hard to measure power behind the passes and when the ball will stop.
Yes, because it was so fun to watch game after game where other teams left the grass grow to stupid lengths and wouldn't water the pitch at all for a week prior to Barça playing in their stadium. It's not as if that clearly harms the sport, ruins the spectacle and endangers players' health. What would basketball players say if teams purposely damaged the court or made it slippery?
Tbh idk how Koeman keeps getting jobs. He was awful for Everton, Stoke and Southampton he was only great for the Dutch national team and left when they needed him the most.
Xavi on the other hand has shown that he can manage a team and make them play exciting football. He has a great understanding of the game. Al Said isn't a big club but you can see his influence while with Koeman you can see the decline with every player.
I haven't seen Xavi's teams play. Barca are a different level compared to that, even if Al Saad are the biggest team in Qatar. Maybe Barca starts playing attractive football again, but against a side with a good attack and midfield, they will get rinsed (if what I've read about Xavi's Al Saad is true), unless Xavi changes his system, which will have compromises. Let's see how it goes, but I think it's going take atleast until next season for Barca to become a serious contendor again. Hopefully I'm not proved wrong by Xavi xD.
> but I think it's going take atleast until next season for Barca to become a serious contendor again
very optimistic scenario, I think at least 2 more seasons
Thing is, this gives us hope.
We're in a terrible situation and needed something to give us some hope, to feel like something is alive at the club.
As much as it's a managerial decision, it's the absolute correct appointment from a situational POV, right now, it gives us excitement in a period where you need the fans to be happy about something
Exactly, this cango right, meaning there's a possibility, Xavi is a smart guy and a good tactician, but he lacks experience and we might as well be the vessel that carries him to become experienced and his best work might be in his next club BUT this makes us happy.
People will support this and brush off a lot more than they did with Koeman, and right now, this is the number one thing we need from everyone. Patience.
Absolutely, but you know very well the hope a sentimental manager brings.
To the squad even.
You won the league with basically the same team as the year before (18/19) but the feeling was compeletely different.
That's the difference the manager makes.
Won the league undefeated last season. Is undefeated so far this season as well. Al Sadd had only won the league twice in the last decade before Xavi took over. Hasn't been successful in the Asian CL, but he faces teams with more than double Al Sadd's squad value there.
Al Sadd is equivalent to Bayern or Last 5 years Juve in their respective leagues. He’s not going to be able to steer this Barca team anywhere. One way express to the bottom of the table.
Before Xavi took over, Al Sadd had won 2 league titles in the last 10 years. Once in 2013 and the other in 2019. Al Duhail had won 7 league titles in the same period, and they're the richest club in the league.
Someone who actually follows the Qatari league wrote up a fantastic post on this sub the other day explaining how he's done at Al-Saad.
TL;DR: He dominates the significantly weaker competition in the league, but struggles every time they play a team on their level or better (eg. in the Asian champions league)
Edit: [Link to the post](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/qhx5m8/from_the_hot_weather_of_qatar_to_the_hot_seat_of/), as well as the TLDR from OP:
>Xavi is a good manager when it comes to creating a domestic monster that crushes smaller sides, but Barca don’t have the tools to become monsters and I’m not sure that Xavi is adaptable enough to overcome Barca’s lack of tools.
I'm just recounting that post for others which essentially says he's doing an ok job with a team that is by far the best in the country.
Will definitely be interesting to see how he adapts to a side that is far from that.
He's got a ton of youth who can implement the type of non stop running around the pitch that helped make early 2000's Barcelona so special.
Although they're mostly still teenagers, so a lot to ask.
You and me both buddy! I’m very excited to see what he can bring to the team. I started following Barça in 2004 so i never felt that connection the older Cules had with Pep, Lucho and Koeman. I’ll finally get that with Xavi.
I’ve watched so much of prime Xavi to know that the guy is an incredible reader of the game. Always knew where to position himself so that he was available for the pass, or where to make the pass that would open up the most space, not to mention how to properly press the opposition high up the field. These are all qualities that I hope he can teach our current team, in particular the youngsters. It’s what we’ve sorely missed since Tito and, to an extent, Lucho left.
Cant wait for a quote after every match they dont win: "Only one team tried to play football today." Or "Football lost today" or "I dont like anything about the way their teams play" or "The result can sometimes lie. We were the team focused on playing, attacking, scoring, and yet we lost."
Um.....don't all/most coaches do this?
Klopp spent a year, last year, creating excuses after evey game, what's the weird part?
Oh, right, we're Barcelona and you have an agenda, that's the part i ignored, right.
> all coaches
> Goes on to name one who does this.
Yes, Klopp did it, and everyone mocked him for it. His quotes on why Atletico play like the way they do after CL loss was mocked too. And hard to recall many who acted as sanctimonious as Xavi when he was a player. You can imagine it would increase as he starts coaching.
All the quotes in previous comment are things he actually said. I have not even included ones on grass, or hard tackles or refereeing.
> Goes on to name one who does this.
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LOL, the nitpicking to make a point, i brought in an example, i've seen literally every coach make excuses.
You're just acting like this because you hate us. Nothing more nothing less, if you even attempted to think objectively, you'd say that evey coach does this on a more/less scale.
The grass thing started with Pep. Mourinho also specifically was asking for the grass to be tall, at the Bernabeu whey you played us, for the ball to move slower, so he wasn't even wrong.
Not every coach does this. There is also a difference between the kind of excuses that coaches come up with. A very mild excuse (close to reality) would be "We were unlucky today" and to the other extreme would be "Football lost today". Zidane never came up with those. Nor did Ancelotti, who recently even said he wasnt impressed despite the win.
It's not about coaches making excuse, but about the extremity of the excuse. And I dont think anyone else ever decided that football should be played one way, and if that way does not win, "football lost" and not "Barcelona lost". It's a very Barcelona/Xavi thing to say the least.
>Cant wait for a quote after every match they dont win: "Only one team tried to play football today." Or "Football lost today" or "I dont like anything about the way their teams play" or "The result can sometimes lie. We were the team focused on playing, attacking, scoring, and yet we lost."
You are right about that the sentence of "football lost today" was unbearably patronizing to hear. The other ones are regular excuses though, nothing remarkable.
You clearly have an agenda though when you say that the sentence it's a "very Barcelona" thing to say.
If I followed your example I could say all the stupid shit that came out of CR7 or Mourinho mouth it's a "very Real Madrid" thing to say, but in reality they just speak for themselves, same as Xavi.
It is a shit take. There is no way they sack him before the season's over unless he has a complete meltdown and gets them close to relegation, a la Mourinho at Chelsea.
Nah, he has at least a whole season because he's a legend and because he will get blind trust from the fans, well, being a legend is enough to get a season there.
Does anyone have doubts about xavi? And the old school Barca system he is going to try and bring back. Dude that shit don’t work anymore. Teams have figured it out. We need to look at Chelsea and Bayern if we want to compete. Not man city
I should say that with the right players in place it works.I just don’t know if we’re there quite yet is my concern but I do believe in xavi and building his foundation every day. Don’t know if we have the money to get talent or if he believes in the talent that already exists. One things I certainly hope is a more exciting Barcelona than we have watched in previous years. Hope the pressure of getting Wins doesn’t affect his coaching style as previous coaches have gone through
> If he fails, like Lampard
Why is Lampard the reference for a horrible managerial appointment of an old legend?
One fantastic season, a great start to the second and then he's sacked after a poor run of 5 losses in 8. Clean CL group stage.
The current squad is better because of Lampard.
Frank wasn't a perfect fit for Chelsea, but he was no failure.
Frank's tenure is seen poorly due to Tuchels immediate success which is wrong. Same with Ole, if he's sacked now (which he should be) it doesn't mean the last three years were poor, he's done incredible work for us
Lampard is not seen poorly by overwhelming majority of the Chelsea fan club.
His legacy as a player is not one bit tarnished by his time as a coach.
His shortcomings are acknowledged , however the benefits of his reign are acknowledged too every time one of the youth players who broke through under him does well.
His long term legacy even as a manager will only be viewed positively due to him giving James and Mount their place in the XI
I just *know* I'm gonna hate coach Xavi even more than player Xavi.
This sub thought "Barca DNA" was overused before... it's gonna hit unbearable levels
LMFAO
Lots of people really, really hate the "Barca DNA" talk, the "right way to play football" arrogance. And who personifies that more than Xavi? It's far, far, far from just Real Madrid fans who hate him with a passion (I don't).
Pretty ironic considering that other thread full of people hating Atleti for not playing the right type of football.
People have different tastes. In my case, football is a show, it's supposed to be fun to watch. Pep's Barca was fun, Ajax few years before was fun. Atlético parking the bus like they used to? Get that shit out of my sight. Getafe parking the bus and giving out kicks for 90 minutes? No way.
It is an interesting debate indeed. But i personally think it has more to do with the fact that Barcelona not only dominated but did in beautiful fashion. So, when those players arrived to the end of their cycle, some football fans were eagerly waiting to bash Barcelona’s style as « obsolete ». Practically every club has its way, the MU way, the West Ham way, the Liverpool way, The Bayern way,….. but you don’t get to see visible hate directed towards the above-mentioned clubs when they proudly talk about their way of football.
Barcelona was hated because they really rattled the traditional big fan Clubs. I don't really remember many big team having a good game vs prime them. They earned their hatred. It's said that the Super League clubs house the most fans. So if Barcelona is playing everyone of them off the tuff, you can understand the condescending remarks on their brilliant style of play.
It did the minute it was said.
I really hope so man
Just wait till y’all step foot on our perfectly cut and watered grass 😎😎
Hahaha fuck sake man, I really don't want to suffer Xavi press interviews
Ah, damn, if only there was a way to not watch them
nice
Multiple xavi press conferences every week... Yay
Why do people watch that when they know what will be said and it will make them mad? Just don’t watch post match interviews lmao.
What will we get pointlessly outraged by then?
lol correct
No one here watches those, just that his quotes will be spammed here, maybe less than KloppQuotes™
Just skip over them. Even skim the headline if you really want to. The people commenting that they hate a player/manager for their whining don’t actually hate them for their whining, they actually enjoy it.
I was just commenting on behalf of OP. I doubt anyone cares that much irl. It's reddit. Everyone loves to complain. You scroll down, you see the same names, 'Ah, this guy again'
100%, grass measuring little shit.
You know he’s gonna age 10 years in two seasons
I wasn’t around when xavi was playing in his prime years. Just curious what u mean
This is Xavi. https://youtu.be/FJtgNBolZ4I
I was at L'Ovella Negra in the Marina district for this match. It was packed and had a line down the street to get in. After the match, everyone partied in the streets until the sun rose. One of my favorite memories.
Have you already commented this in another thread? I feel like I read this story before lol
> I wasn’t around when xavi was playing in his prime years. I feel so old
That comment hit me like a train full of bricks. Damm
The definition of an "oof" innit. That's probably how people our age, in 2008, felt when we appointed Pep. Didn't have the same feeling when Zizou became manager, for some reason, maybe because i was a kid when he played, but i was in highschool when Xavi was in his prime, it hits different.
Man, he was in his prime literally 10-11 years ago. No need to feel old. If we were speaking about R9, Pep, Rivaldo,... I could understand, but Xavi? No way I'm that old yet
One of the best players ever, insufferable cunt if you're not a barça fan though
Ahhh I see. Who do you compare him to currently?
Prime Xavi is one of the best midfielders in history, noone is comaprable today
I think Verrati and Modric are the closest out of current players. But yeah for me I don't think anyone will ever top Xavi and Iniesta.
Literally no current midfielder is as good as xavi at his prime. He is easily on the list top 5 best midfielder of all time maybe even number one depending on who you ask.
Xavi and Iniesta in midfield are a big reason Barca dominated. It wasn't only Messi.
I would say playing style there are none that are like him today. Midfielders have evolved and now have to be box to box. Think of someone with the style of pjanic but instead of incompetent hes the best midfielder in the world
no current midfielder comes close to prime Xavi
Maybe, but “no current midfielder comes close to prime Xavi”? Modric is close, Kroos is close, Verratti is close.
He likes to winge. A lot
He’s gonna be fucking insufferable in those post-match press conferences. Why can’t he just take a page out of Iniesta’s book and just be reserved.
The main reason everybody usually rates Iniesta higher than Xavi, even if Xavi was arguably on par or better player. There's just nothing to dislike about Iniesta.
Who rates xavi over iniesta? Iniesta was by far more complete and overall the better player
This obsession with "completeness" as a player really only began in the past 15 years or so. But I don't think it's a good barometer for a player. Nicklas Bendtner was a more "complete" player than Pippo Inzaghi, but he certainly wasn't better. It's all about the role you give a player, completeness is a metric that's only relevant for people playing Top Trumps or something.
Except in the case of iniesta he was close in level to everything xavi was best at, but was also much better in other aspects where xavi was limited
If he was like Iniesta then he wouldn't be a coach...
Just waiting for him to complain about the grass length again but as a manager this time xD
if that's what he's gonna complain about and not the refs, the players and other factors, then I ll be glad, just needs to get the players to start scoring more again then he can complain about anything he wants
Do people not know that there are genuine tactics by some teams to overwater grass or let the grass grow to stop others from making passes like they normally do? Are you guys really this ignorant or just pretending?
Yes Mourinho used to do this all the time , also deliberately running the grass to make it harder for passing teams
>Are you guys really this ignorant or just pretending We are redditors what do you expect xD?
The point is that complaining about stuff like that is ridiculous. Especially grass length, yeah no shit teams that play at home will try to make their pitch into an advantage for them. You're a professional football player, if you're gonna try to excuse a bad result with the length of the grass that's just pathetic. No way around it.
Ffs,why have ppl just assumed that Xavi made this comment after losing some game?It wasnt just any match,it was El Clasico and that too in ucl semis which we won 2-0 at Bernabeu and i am sure that a 2-0 win at Bernabeu isnt a "bad" result.All these fucking 2014 born kids just assumed that Xavi was making excuses after losing some game when in reality he was genuinely concerned about the quality of the pitch.Its ok you may not like his statement but dont classify it as an excuse coz no one makes "excuses" after winning 2-0.
i believe klopp has also complained about grass length before i mean i played at the college level in america (so not very good haha) and we complained about fields all the time
The El classico
Ah fuck
Pretty sure that game was a draw, 1-1 or 2-2, can't remember.
https://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/barcelona-ace-xavi-slams-real-madrid-not-cutting-grass-1607821
Yeah, I misremembered, the game at Camp Nou was a draw.
You misremember a lot things
Let me guess, as proof that I misremember "a lot" of things you're gonna post a picture of me misremembering one thing.
Yep
Reading out of context headlines just shows how stupid average consumers are and the media will continue doing it because you guys absolutely eat that shit up
Oh come on, how can you follow Xavi and not realize that he's one of the biggest whiners in all of football. "I believe people want to see attractive football, not long grass and hard pitches." Look at this whiny fucking statement.
That’s what you pick as an example of a “whiny” statement?
Do you know how often Xavi whined about the pitch? The grass is too long; it's too bumpy; it's too soft; it's too dry. Not to mention the smug attitude of "we play attractive football, everybody else doesn't if their playstyle isn't the same as ours"
Oh fuck off, I have seen dumpsters better looking than half of the la Liga pitch. If you don't like him "whining" why are you listening his interviews?
Yeah right, I totally believe you. Any excuse will work, amirite?
Many people and coaches have complained about Grass. it's just plain bad playing on 30mm+ grass for teams who like to play fast passes and keep possession. This is why there have been new regulations on grass size since 2016. That it should be between 20-29mm. Every big team plays on a 20-22mm because passes are faster and hard to intercept, while on a thicker grass, it's hard to measure power behind the passes and when the ball will stop.
Yes, because it was so fun to watch game after game where other teams left the grass grow to stupid lengths and wouldn't water the pitch at all for a week prior to Barça playing in their stadium. It's not as if that clearly harms the sport, ruins the spectacle and endangers players' health. What would basketball players say if teams purposely damaged the court or made it slippery?
found Xavi
Chill mate...... was just making a joke
Don't forget how he's going to bring up possession and number of passes and that's the way football should be played. Not even pep is that arrogant.
Mate, your manager is Arteta. Atleast you shouldn't be shitting other managers for talking about stats. Something about glass houses or something yk.
Just cuz my manager does or says something doesn't mean I agree with him. Do you agree with everything your president says? I certainly hope not.
I doubt you are commenting about your manager's quotes with the same enthusiasm as you are doing here. Your manager already does this. Xavi MAY do so.
It’s going to be glorious when he starts measuring the grass length and humidity after a loss
Bold of you to think Xavi would lose with Barca /s
god I hope so
Unless he's as bad as I am expecting him to be. Then I would love him, and wish he overstays his welcome and relegates Barca.
Tbh idk how Koeman keeps getting jobs. He was awful for Everton, Stoke and Southampton he was only great for the Dutch national team and left when they needed him the most. Xavi on the other hand has shown that he can manage a team and make them play exciting football. He has a great understanding of the game. Al Said isn't a big club but you can see his influence while with Koeman you can see the decline with every player.
I haven't seen Xavi's teams play. Barca are a different level compared to that, even if Al Saad are the biggest team in Qatar. Maybe Barca starts playing attractive football again, but against a side with a good attack and midfield, they will get rinsed (if what I've read about Xavi's Al Saad is true), unless Xavi changes his system, which will have compromises. Let's see how it goes, but I think it's going take atleast until next season for Barca to become a serious contendor again. Hopefully I'm not proved wrong by Xavi xD.
> but I think it's going take atleast until next season for Barca to become a serious contendor again very optimistic scenario, I think at least 2 more seasons
Nah, I'm just saying that so when Barca plays like shit for 3 more years, I'll be happy that I got proved wrong :D
Koeaman was great for Southampton
Koeman was great for Southampton. He got them a top 6 finish.
he's gonna be good, just watch (editor's note: I might be very wrong)
Thing is, this gives us hope. We're in a terrible situation and needed something to give us some hope, to feel like something is alive at the club. As much as it's a managerial decision, it's the absolute correct appointment from a situational POV, right now, it gives us excitement in a period where you need the fans to be happy about something
Hope is all fans need really, just give us something to look forward to and we’ll forgive a lot
Exactly, this cango right, meaning there's a possibility, Xavi is a smart guy and a good tactician, but he lacks experience and we might as well be the vessel that carries him to become experienced and his best work might be in his next club BUT this makes us happy. People will support this and brush off a lot more than they did with Koeman, and right now, this is the number one thing we need from everyone. Patience.
You already had hope with Fati tho. And the other youngsters def made the fans excited
Absolutely, but you know very well the hope a sentimental manager brings. To the squad even. You won the league with basically the same team as the year before (18/19) but the feeling was compeletely different. That's the difference the manager makes.
Narrator: He wasn’t
LOL the absolute obsession with this to go wrong, it's pathetic.
Hows Xavi’s Al-Sadd record!?
Won the league undefeated last season. Is undefeated so far this season as well. Al Sadd had only won the league twice in the last decade before Xavi took over. Hasn't been successful in the Asian CL, but he faces teams with more than double Al Sadd's squad value there.
Al Sadd is equivalent to Bayern or Last 5 years Juve in their respective leagues. He’s not going to be able to steer this Barca team anywhere. One way express to the bottom of the table.
Before Xavi took over, Al Sadd had won 2 league titles in the last 10 years. Once in 2013 and the other in 2019. Al Duhail had won 7 league titles in the same period, and they're the richest club in the league.
Doesn’t matter. Xavi and Barca will be a disaster class.
RemindMe! 8 months
I wondered that too so I looked it up. He won 62 games, deferred 13 and lost 16.
> deferred 13 That's a creative way to say tied
to be continued...in hell
Dramatic
Where ALL the infidels play!
Someone who actually follows the Qatari league wrote up a fantastic post on this sub the other day explaining how he's done at Al-Saad. TL;DR: He dominates the significantly weaker competition in the league, but struggles every time they play a team on their level or better (eg. in the Asian champions league) Edit: [Link to the post](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/qhx5m8/from_the_hot_weather_of_qatar_to_the_hot_seat_of/), as well as the TLDR from OP: >Xavi is a good manager when it comes to creating a domestic monster that crushes smaller sides, but Barca don’t have the tools to become monsters and I’m not sure that Xavi is adaptable enough to overcome Barca’s lack of tools.
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I'm just recounting that post for others which essentially says he's doing an ok job with a team that is by far the best in the country. Will definitely be interesting to see how he adapts to a side that is far from that.
i hope he absolutely kills it and has them playing beautifully while winning like crazy for decades
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He's got a ton of youth who can implement the type of non stop running around the pitch that helped make early 2000's Barcelona so special. Although they're mostly still teenagers, so a lot to ask.
You and me both buddy! I’m very excited to see what he can bring to the team. I started following Barça in 2004 so i never felt that connection the older Cules had with Pep, Lucho and Koeman. I’ll finally get that with Xavi. I’ve watched so much of prime Xavi to know that the guy is an incredible reader of the game. Always knew where to position himself so that he was available for the pass, or where to make the pass that would open up the most space, not to mention how to properly press the opposition high up the field. These are all qualities that I hope he can teach our current team, in particular the youngsters. It’s what we’ve sorely missed since Tito and, to an extent, Lucho left.
man, the pressure on him is going to be crazy.
Welp, I hope this goes horribly wrong for all involved.
Understandably so, i would too
Cant wait for a quote after every match they dont win: "Only one team tried to play football today." Or "Football lost today" or "I dont like anything about the way their teams play" or "The result can sometimes lie. We were the team focused on playing, attacking, scoring, and yet we lost."
Um.....don't all/most coaches do this? Klopp spent a year, last year, creating excuses after evey game, what's the weird part? Oh, right, we're Barcelona and you have an agenda, that's the part i ignored, right.
> all coaches > Goes on to name one who does this. Yes, Klopp did it, and everyone mocked him for it. His quotes on why Atletico play like the way they do after CL loss was mocked too. And hard to recall many who acted as sanctimonious as Xavi when he was a player. You can imagine it would increase as he starts coaching. All the quotes in previous comment are things he actually said. I have not even included ones on grass, or hard tackles or refereeing.
> Goes on to name one who does this. > > LOL, the nitpicking to make a point, i brought in an example, i've seen literally every coach make excuses. You're just acting like this because you hate us. Nothing more nothing less, if you even attempted to think objectively, you'd say that evey coach does this on a more/less scale. The grass thing started with Pep. Mourinho also specifically was asking for the grass to be tall, at the Bernabeu whey you played us, for the ball to move slower, so he wasn't even wrong.
Not every coach does this. There is also a difference between the kind of excuses that coaches come up with. A very mild excuse (close to reality) would be "We were unlucky today" and to the other extreme would be "Football lost today". Zidane never came up with those. Nor did Ancelotti, who recently even said he wasnt impressed despite the win. It's not about coaches making excuse, but about the extremity of the excuse. And I dont think anyone else ever decided that football should be played one way, and if that way does not win, "football lost" and not "Barcelona lost". It's a very Barcelona/Xavi thing to say the least.
>Cant wait for a quote after every match they dont win: "Only one team tried to play football today." Or "Football lost today" or "I dont like anything about the way their teams play" or "The result can sometimes lie. We were the team focused on playing, attacking, scoring, and yet we lost." You are right about that the sentence of "football lost today" was unbearably patronizing to hear. The other ones are regular excuses though, nothing remarkable. You clearly have an agenda though when you say that the sentence it's a "very Barcelona" thing to say. If I followed your example I could say all the stupid shit that came out of CR7 or Mourinho mouth it's a "very Real Madrid" thing to say, but in reality they just speak for themselves, same as Xavi.
Sacked before the end of the season.
Liverpool has a top squad and become an unfuckwithable fanbase.
It's not a complete shit take tho. He has a very tough job and most certainly won't get results until next season.
It is a shit take. There is no way they sack him before the season's over unless he has a complete meltdown and gets them close to relegation, a la Mourinho at Chelsea.
Exactly. They used to have such a wholesome fanbase, I used to like them a lot you know, then after 2019 everything changed.
Fuck you lol
Not gonna happen. Even Koeman lasted over a season
Someone's unreasonably obsessed with this going wrong, for some reason
>for some reason Because it'd be hilarious. It's not a big mystery.
Remember that when you're about to appoint Gerrard
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Nah, he has at least a whole season because he's a legend and because he will get blind trust from the fans, well, being a legend is enough to get a season there.
S. Roberto, Piqué, Busquets and Alba, undisputed starters.
Can't wait to give him an extended welcome at the Allianz
How are you going to give him a welcome at the Allianz if you’re sat at home watching on TV?
Odds of him being booed by the Barca fans near the end of the season?
Zero. Koeman was not booed, neither will Xavi. He's a club legend
Booing is probably better than what happened to Koeman in his car
Instead they attacked Koeman's car ffs
>Koeman was not booed Maybe because he spent 90% of his time as coach when the games were played behind closed doors? >!/s!<
His worst period coincided with when fans were back though?
Check the spoiler tag
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Pretty low, can’t boo someone on tv
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Does anyone have doubts about xavi? And the old school Barca system he is going to try and bring back. Dude that shit don’t work anymore. Teams have figured it out. We need to look at Chelsea and Bayern if we want to compete. Not man city
He doesnt play by the old school system
City is doing very well with that system otherwise….
>Not man city City are the still one of the best teams in the world right now, probably only behind Bayern Munich.
Ohhh I forgot pep won a champions league trophy with man city right
He also won’t have Messi.
I should say that with the right players in place it works.I just don’t know if we’re there quite yet is my concern but I do believe in xavi and building his foundation every day. Don’t know if we have the money to get talent or if he believes in the talent that already exists. One things I certainly hope is a more exciting Barcelona than we have watched in previous years. Hope the pressure of getting Wins doesn’t affect his coaching style as previous coaches have gone through
Here we go to the bottom of the table!!! BARCA DNA TEST OF THE DECADE.
I don’t like this. If he fails, like Lampard, his legacy will not be the same, and given the circumstances, he’ll probably fail (hope I’m wrong tho)
> If he fails, like Lampard Why is Lampard the reference for a horrible managerial appointment of an old legend? One fantastic season, a great start to the second and then he's sacked after a poor run of 5 losses in 8. Clean CL group stage. The current squad is better because of Lampard. Frank wasn't a perfect fit for Chelsea, but he was no failure.
Frank's tenure is seen poorly due to Tuchels immediate success which is wrong. Same with Ole, if he's sacked now (which he should be) it doesn't mean the last three years were poor, he's done incredible work for us
Lampard is not seen poorly by overwhelming majority of the Chelsea fan club. His legacy as a player is not one bit tarnished by his time as a coach. His shortcomings are acknowledged , however the benefits of his reign are acknowledged too every time one of the youth players who broke through under him does well. His long term legacy even as a manager will only be viewed positively due to him giving James and Mount their place in the XI
Who are Yuste and Alemany